Moving Target

Moving Target – Dejan Lovren

Having plundered Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton earlier this summer, Brendan Rodgers returned to the St Mary’s club for the third time in order to acquire centre-half Dejan Lovren. The 25-year-old arrives at Anfield for a reported £20m and is Rodgers’ fifth signing of the close-season, with Lazar Markovic and Emre Can also making their way to Merseyside:

Discussing the move with the club’s official website, the Reds boss admitted the Croatian’s organisational skills will be crucial for the campaign ahead:

“This is a very important signing for us and I’m delighted it’s completed so Dejan can join up with us on our US tour. I think he’s a really commanding centre-half. I’ve said since we lost Jamie Carragher that we needed that leadership. He’s a player that gives us that. He’s very strong, very commanding, but he can play. I’ve been really impressed with him. I watched him at Lyon, he came into the Premier League with Southampton and I know their players thought he was a big driving force for them and kept them defensively solid. I think he’s a player that can still improve, still develop as he’s in his mid-20s. He’s someone I’m really looking forward to working with.”

The History

A product of the NK Karlovac youth system, Lovren was snapped up by Dinamo Zagreb back in 2004. The defender was handed his senior debut as a 16-year-old a couple of years later before being loaned out to Croatian club Inter Zaprešić – over a couple of seasons, he became a first-team regular and scored once in 50 league outings.

After returning to his parent club for the start of the 2008/09 campaign, Lovren racked up 36 appearances over the next season-and-a-half before being acquired by Lyon midway through the 2009-10 season for €8 million. Spending four years with the Ligue 1 outfit, the Croatian gradually established himself as a key figure at the back and registered two goals and a pair of assists over 72 appearances.

Signed by Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino last June, the centre-half turned out 31 times, scoring on a couple of occasions, with his displays proving fundamental to a run of 15 clean sheets over 2013/14.

On the international scene, Lovren has represented his country from Under-17 to Under-21 level on a total of 55 occasions, scoring six times. The centre-half has also notched twice in 21 appearances for the senior side and played all three group games in the recent World Cup.

The Prospects

Liverpool’s free-scoring side may have earned plenty of plaudits and Fantasy investment after racking up 101 goals in the season gone by, but a series of poor defensive displays ultimately proved their undoing. Rodgers’ side came within two points of the title in spite of a backline that conceded 50 times over 2013/14 – only 14 goals fewer than rivals City (37) and Chelsea (27) combined – and mustered a mere 10 clean sheets over the entire campaign.

Clearly, the Merseysiders need improving at the back if they are to maintain their momentum and Lovren’s acquisition certainly looks a step in the right direction. Having splashed the cash and cited the Croatian’s leadership skills, Rodgers sees the new boy as vital to his plans, and with starts looking guaranteed, it leaves Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and Mamadou Sakho vying for the remaining central defensive berth if, as expected, Liverpool operate with a four-man back-line again. Whilst Skrtel’s seven goals last term underline his capabilities in the opponents’ box, there’s every chance that Sakho could be set to partner the new boy, bearing in mind that Rodgers forked out £15m for the Frenchman’s services this time last year.

Priced at 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) and 6.3 in the Sky Sports game, Lovren is already the seventh most popular defender in the former game, with an ownership of 16% and rising. Granted, full-back pair Jon Flanagan and Jose Enrique are cheaper at 5.0 apiece and, if either can nail down a regular role this term, they could provide better value than the Croatian but for now, with Skrtel and 6.0 and both Agger and Sakho at 5.5, Lovren certainly seems the safest option for those willing to take a punt on Rodgers’ defence.

Having conceded 93 goals in two seasons under Rodgers, though, it’s fair to say Liverpool are hardly deserving of such lofty price-tags at the back. Bearing in mind that the likes of Mathieu Debuchy is similarly priced and offers a route into an Arsenal defence with 17 clean sheets last term, and Tottenham new boy Ben Davies, at 5.0, will be hoping to benefit from Pochettino’s installation at Spurs, there could well be better value found elsewhere.

Whilst there’s hope that Lovren’s arrival may just be the catalyst for a turnaround in defensive fortunes for the Mersysiders, trips to City and Spurs in the first three fixtures may convince many to steer clear initially. One look at the schedule from Gameweek 4, when Liverpool face four kind home matches (AVL, EVE, WBA, HUL) and trips to West Ham and QPR in the subsequent six, suggests that if Lovren’s installation makes the difference, we could start to reconsider Liverpool’s defence once again.

Further Reference

Dejan Lovren Wikipedia

Dejan Lovren Transfer Markt Page

Dejan Lovren You Tube 2013/14 Highlights

Dejan Lovren First Liverpool Interview

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4,675 Comments Post a Comment
  1. LordHeskey
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Advice would be great. Got 3 mil in the bank.

    Guzan (Krul)
    Shaw Caulker Debuchy (Ward Yun)
    Mata Hazard Siggy Arnautovic (Albrighton)
    Remy Rooney Giroud

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    1. BeachBadger
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Remy or Anrie to a heavy hitter

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    2. aflickering
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      remy to costa

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      1. KOKAK
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Good suggestion.

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  2. lachyas
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    RMT please, very weak defence with some question over starts but I'm not sure where else to sacrifice if anywhere.

    DDG/Myhill
    Cameron/Ferdinand/Mariappa/Wisdom/Targett
    Hazard/Sanchez/Mata/Siggy
    Aguero/Bony/Giroud

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    1. lachyas
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Oh and Albrighton in the mid.

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    2. BeachBadger
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      MIssing a mid. Reckon Aguero will start and hit the ground running?

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      1. lachyas
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah sorry, Albrighton in the mid although I'm very open to any other 4.5 option. I hope Aguero will start strong, fully fit he's the best striker in the league and I think if he has a good first couple of weeks a lot of people will be scrambling to get him in which could be very tricky with team balance.

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        1. BeachBadger
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Aguero wrecked my head last year lol I'm gonna stay away fro now. Too much cash to be worried about gametime. Agreed the best around when he's on form.

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          1. lachyas
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            I guess the other option is bringing in Rooney for him and using the extra funds in defence, I'm not completely sold on Rooney though. Would also mean no City coverage.

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            1. KOKAK
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Dzeko and Jovetic may outscore Aguero if he continues to be injured (nurtured for prolonged period, playing him about 60 mins per match and coming in as a super sub for the last 30 mins). I would never pay 12m for a player who sits in the bench, and can never play 90 minutes. Be reminded that this situation continued even in the World Cup after the end of last season. Let him play 3 full 90 minutes matches and then I will judge him otherwise, and only if he delivers!

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    3. Get up ya bum
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      10 years, 3 months ago

      If you want to invest more in d then do Hazard to Fab or drop DDG. Nice team though.

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      1. lachyas
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks, I hadn't really considered dropping Hazard but it's definitely worth a look.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          It's great to see Aguero in there though. Hope that works well for ya. Certainly at some stage everyone will be trying to fit him in

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          1. lachyas
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah he's turned into a surprising gamble but I think if he has a good start it will be worth it, it will be tricky to fit him in later with his price while maintaining team balance.

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    4. aflickering
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      personally i'd downgrade ddg and bony, improve myhill, mariappa and cameron.

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      1. lachyas
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks, I'm pretty set on Bony though, so long as he stays I think he's a bargain. They're definitely the players I want to upgrade if at all possible.

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        1. aflickering
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          i'm sure he'll be good over the course of the season assuming he stays, but 8.5 is a lot of money when you already have swansea attacking coverage and they're playing utd and chelsea away in the first 4 gameweeks. just my 2 cents!

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Bony looks value at 8.5 imo as long as he stays at Swansea

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    5. money face bandwagon
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      would sae u need another 2m at least for defence. at least upgrade all your 4m to 4.5m starters..mariappa and cameron too

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  3. Get up ya bum
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    I need a 4.0 and I'm perfectly happy with my team. Just 1 4.0 🙁

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    1. premierglaser
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      In defense?

      What's the rest of the team look like?

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    2. BeachBadger
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      fingers crossed. I could do with 2 or 3 lol

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        🙂 I'm not greedy. Just need one to pop up. Got 3 4.5's and a 5.0 too

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        1. BeachBadger
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Haha Actually I've gone all out in defence this year. Not even my style lol. Too much value in the big guns I feel. Debuchy, Shaw and Luis. Tempted by Davies too 😆

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Interesting. We'll get to see how the two extremes fare then

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            1. BeachBadger
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Will be an interesting year all round I feel. Though I may ditch shaw if he doesnt show some glimmer on the wing.

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        2. Blue Lion
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          10 years, 3 months ago

          I see..no Chelsea defenders.. 🙂

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Cheap and nasty 😉

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            1. Blue Lion
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Suggestion for a good 4.5 trio?

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              1. Get up ya bum
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 3 months ago

                Haven't looked properly at rotation yet. Atm Marriappa, Cameron are in there alongside Taylor just because Stoke and Palace are better defensively than the other 4.5's teams. They may need replacing though. I'll decide which 3 nearer to kick-off.
                You got any good rotations for me to look at?

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                1. Blue Lion
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 3 months ago

                  Palace QPR is the best rotation!...
                  Will let you know if i find any worthy of pondering.

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                  1. Get up ya bum
                    • 15 Years
                    10 years, 3 months ago

                    Cheers mate

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    3. Blue Lion
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Wisdom, Duff,Targett?

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      1. aflickering
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        i heard murmurings a few days ago that duff isn't nailed, but pre-season might've cleared that up, idk. the other two are currently likely starters but wisdom could get replaced by gamboa and southampton have loads of buying to do.

        aside from that, i think you're out of luck!

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Aren't we all!

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      2. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Ooh who's this Duff character? Wisdom has competition and Saints have to sign a full back now surely.

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Burnley old timer. Dunno if he will be nailed on this season.

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            ok ta

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            1. Little Frank
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              • 13 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Duff is unlikely to be nailed on long term, but so far Burnley haven't signed a replacement (although they are looking) so until then, keep him pencilled in.

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              1. Get up ya bum
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 3 months ago

                Cheers so same as Targett then, nailed pending new signings

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    4. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      As of now, Duff and Targett are the two most likely to get minutes.

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Fully expecting saints to sign a left back but if not Targett's my man. Duff popping up again I'll have to look into this cheers

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  4. Oz lotto
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hey DZers
    Just changed some stuff up... let me know what you think:
    Previous A) Shaw Terry Sanchez Hazard Jelavic
    Now with slight chnage B) Jones Luis Hazard DeJong Costa

    Leaning towards B just because I think it's more sustainable but it's doing my head in!

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    1. BeachBadger
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I like all the players in A and B except Jelly so I say B

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Prefer A. I think Long might actually be the better hull striker. I'd tell you to downgrade Haz to Fab but you probably don't wanna hear that right?

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      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        haha. I'm more inclined to not have Sanchez and go with Nasri. It is killing me not having him.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I think not having Sanchez will kill you quicker 😉

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          1. Oz lotto
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            if i do go that way i'll just be banking on him taking a while to settle.

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  5. harry22
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Just had my fantasy league draft. Any opinions on how I did?

    Krul Mannone
    Coleman Cahill Demel Dann B. Davies
    Ozil Arnautovic Lamela Shelvey Snodgrass
    Pelle Dzeko Sturridge

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    1. BeachBadger
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Bit punty for a draft team but could do well.

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    2. SENTI CAZORLA
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Wenger has confirmed Ozil will miss the start of the season and not too sure about Lamela's gametime either

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      1. KOKAK
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Good spot.

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    3. Venom Snake
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      You should be $1.20 favourite

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    4. aflickering
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      i like it! fun team. i'm wondering how shelvey and siggy are gonna fit together, m'self.

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      1. KOKAK
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        siggy will surely outshine shelvey.

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    5. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      You've done brilliantly by the looks of it. How many teams in the league?

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  6. Saniul
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    So, how do we expect Chelsea midfield to line up in the Premier League?

    A. Fabregas and Matic in the double pivot, Willian in the hole, and Oscar and Hazard on the wings. More of a 4-2-3-1 formation.

    B. Fabregas as the most advanced midfielder of a midfield three (like the di Maria role at Real Madrid last year) with Matic and Ramires behind him, and Oscar/Willian and Hazard on the wings. Like in a 4-3-3.

    As one must imagine, this will very well decide Fabregas' fate as a Fantasy player this season.

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    1. BeachBadger
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I expect A as that was how he lined up, even with fringe players around him

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    2. Blue Lion
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      According to Mourinho's comments.. My understanding is that Fab will be used in the piviot vs smaller opposition who tend to park the bus. Otherwise je may play in the hole. Fab looked very good even playing in the pivot. Can see a lot of measured throughball assists.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah, but might struggle for attacking returns you expect of a 9.0 mid, especially in a Mourinho team.

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Fantasy wise that may pose a problem. Coz we all like flat track bullys.

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          1. Saniul
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Exactly.

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        2. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Fabregas won't struggle for goals and assists playing in the pivot. I reckon he'll be more consistent, less explosive than Hazard

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    3. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      i find both a bit dubious because i don't much like oscar out wide or fabregas deep. it's a bit like the situation at arsenal, too many natural number 10s having to go where they're less comfortable.

      that said, i can see him varying between these two options depending on opposition.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, but from what I hear, Ramires is not that well favored at Chelsea, but he will be my best bet to play with Matic in the double pivot.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Nah he's not. I expect it to usually be Fab and Matic

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Hazard Oscar/Willian Willian/Salah

            Fab Matic

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  7. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Forwards are so awkwardly priced, i am very tempted to go two big hitters and one cheapie, for example Sturridge, Rooney and Bojan, is anyone going with this tactic?

    Seems logical really as it allows you to have a balanced def and mid too.

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I have Costa, Rooney and Austin, so yeah, it is more like that blueprint.

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Cool, it's just really bigging me trying to accommodate three big hitters whilst maintaining a good defence and mid, think i am going to do this come deadline day.

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        1. Saniul
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          A lot will depend on whether we are comfortable on getting a cheaper alternative from a bigger team say Fabregas for Hazard, and Ramsey for Alexis.

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      2. money face bandwagon
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        same. instead of spending 2.5m more on dzeko who has tough games n time issue, might as well get austin who is on PK gd fixture n nailed on. The extra 2.5m can be used to get in another heavy mid.

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        1. KOKAK
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          remy is staying!

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    2. SENTI CAZORLA
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Forwards are where the BPs lie this season...go check on the bps system and you'll know 3-4-3 is the way to go 🙂

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I know what you mean but I'm struggling to find any striker under 8.5m who will be any good? Pelle is the closest that I've found. Its a hard one to judge.

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      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        i think only the hull boys will be value - but you're asking for an early wc if that's the case

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        1. Ryan
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          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Indeed. Hulls european adventure has me concerned. Plus it will be difficult to choose between Long and Jelly.

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          1. Oz lotto
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            so neither then?

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            1. Ryan
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              • 13 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Yeah I wouldn't bother at this stage.

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    4. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I prefer one expensive and two of the 8.5's. Different strokes for different folks though. There's no right answer

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      1. Ryan
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Rooney, Dzeko, Giroud?

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        1. Oz lotto
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          or bony instead of giroud

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          1. Ryan
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Its hard to pick Bony when Siggy offers you a Swansea attacker for 2.5m less. He'd be good value if he moved clubs though I think.

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            1. Get up ya bum
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              I have both. Benching sig gw's 1 and 4 though. I much prefer Bony at Swans than anywhere else points wise

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              1. Ryan
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                • 13 Years
                10 years, 3 months ago

                Interesting that you're benching Siggy, who will start instead? a defender?

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                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 15 Years
                  10 years, 3 months ago

                  Arnautovic mate. No attacking bench filler, for the first few weeks anyway

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                  1. Ryan
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                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 3 months ago

                    I'm doing the same thing. Siggy is my cheapest attacker.

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        2. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Rooney Dzeko Bony for me Ryan

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          1. Ryan
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            I don't mind Bony as an option. I take it you're doubling up on Swansea attack?

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            1. Get up ya bum
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Yeah but I'm benching siggy gw's 1 and 4

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        3. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          This is what i went with but i don't want to be always wondering if Dzeko will start.

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          1. Ryan
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Have you considered Aguero instead of Sturridge for 0.5 more?

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            1. Salah’s Sonnet
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              No i've not considered this actually, i am now though haha!

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      2. Blue Lion
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Yep!
        10.5+8.5+8.5...

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    5. aflickering
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      i'm going for this too at first (cept costa instead of sturridge)

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    6. Blue Lion
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Check last page. 😉

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    7. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Some of the comments suggest i'm going with a 4-4-2 formation, i'm not haha, i mean just to play the third cheapie forward regardless, but i agree this is where the bonus points lie, i may just go costa and rooney jelavic, i'll be WC'ing fairly early'ish anyway.

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  8. Zep
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    I'm sorry, but this is one of the greatest songs ever...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVXy1OhaERY

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    1. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      legendary 😉

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      1. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        how you going in AFL fantasy mate? or supercoach?

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      2. Oz lotto
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        apologies - reply fail

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    2. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      At the very least, it's one of my favourite songs EVER...

      Blackmore is a legend... Dio is a legend...

      Lyrically and instrumentally, everything comes together perfectly...

      Awesome...

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    3. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Nice 🙂

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  9. pundit of punts
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Sturridge(c) gw 1 looks tastier by the minute.

    Would be even more enticing if Yoshida and Cork look likely starters by that time if Soton delay in signing the replacements.

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Yep probably the safest captain gw1

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      1. Oz lotto
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        I feel blasphemous not studge given the grav but I want Roon

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      2. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Exactly when there're chances of RVP and Rooney sharing points.

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    2. EmreCan Hustle
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      This.

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    3. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      The only thing is, though it would mean keeping him for GW2 & 3... not something I'm keen on...

      Rooney and Hazard are just as worthy for the GW1 armband and have better following fixtures too...

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      1. aflickering
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        ^this.

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      2. pundit of punts
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        I'm thinking Sturridge>Bandwagon forward for gw 2 unless Sturridge scores a hatty.

        Rooney is a good option.

        But don't think Hazard is one. Chelsea are away vs a Burnley side managed by a defensive minded manager, Moreover Chelsea will probably shut up shop once they are 1-0 or 2-0 up.

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        1. aflickering
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          agreed. i'd possibly even favour mata or sanchez over hazard for captain choice gw1. not sure though.

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        2. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Hazard is generally a shit captain pick. So inconsistent with points. Mind I captained him only one week last year and he got a hatty!

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          1. Zep
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Newcastle at home?

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            1. Get up ya bum
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Sounds right, not sure

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          2. pundit of punts
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Agreed. Very inconsistent.

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      3. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        That's what put me off Zep, and budget issues. I've decided it's best to wait a few weeks. Still expect double digits gw1

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        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Double digits will hurt FFS a lot as Sturridge is the highest owned forwrds.

          And if Rooney balnks, I wouldn't be surprised with a 1 million+ rank to start the season with. 😆

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          1. pundit of punts
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            *forward
            *blanks

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          2. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Yup! Said the same the other day. I'm bracing for it. Can see a lot of fickle gw2 RMWCT on this site 😀

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            1. pundit of punts
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              😆

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          3. Zep
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            If Rooney blanks, I still have a great run of fixture to come...

            If I get Sturridge, and he blanks... I'll have to get him out straight away to avoid a price drop... cos all the casuals will transfer him out... whether or not they see he has mci & tot to come...

            Not bothered about a Rooney price drop, since I know he will come good in the good fixtures to come, and then the casuals will buy him back, thus getting my money back...

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            1. Get up ya bum
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Tis the sensible way of looking at it

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            2. pundit of punts
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Fair points.

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            3. KOKAK
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Smarty pants!

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  10. EmreCan Hustle
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Good morning!

    Thoughts on this team?

    DDG Gilks
    Cahill B.Davies Caulker Huth Targett
    Hazard Silva Mata Sigurdsson Albrighton
    Sturridge Giroud Diouf

    Will do Sturridge>Rooney in GW2. But want Sturridge against Southampton.

    Thanks.

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    1. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      great team. i think you could squeeze some extra money out without sacrificing much by downgrading DDG (don't really understand the appeal m'self), going silva --> nasri, maybe diouf --> bojan. but these are nitpicks.

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      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers mate. Squeeze out money and invest it where? Heard Nasri will have curtailed gametime with Jovetic competing for a midfield spot rather than a forward spot.

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  11. Saniul
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Am I the only one who is going with Sterling ahead of Sturridge?

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    1. Oz lotto
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      yes - too many better option in midfield I think. Sterling at 8.5 is very expensive

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        3m cheaper than Sturridge.

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      2. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        But with Lallana out, and Coutinho & Markovic being the only other attacking mid options, he looks like he will play many games.
        And boy, he is explosive.

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I wouldn't think so. In fact I'm looking to get a Liverpool midfielder in too but probably once their fixtures clear up.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        GW4 sounds good by the looks of it.

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah and by then we should have an idea of their 1st team.

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          1. Saniul
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah, we can anyway identify the first team members.

            Gerrard, Henderson, Can in the defensive midfield.
            Coutinho, Sterling, Markovic and a returning Lallana in the attacking midfield.
            Sturridge as the striker.

            I assume there will be a lot of rotation between players of such equal quality.

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Some will remain nailed on though. I'll be waiting till we find out who they are.

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    3. Blue Lion
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Trying hard to include Sterling in a 3-5-2....But that leaves me with no Costa.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        I'm not too keen on Costa, myself. Don't you have Hazard?

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I have Sanchez ,Hazard and Mata!

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    4. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Sterling is a sleeper. Good pick.

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  12. Benjimaate
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Thoughts on these trades?

    Lovren, Kos, Snod and Zarate -> Targett, Debuchy, Sterling and Long

    Cheers 😀

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  13. Dangerous Dave
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Fab or Rams?

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    1. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      rams. both may find themselves deeper than past seasons though, i'm not sure they offer as much value as it seemed at first.

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  14. Koflok
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Considering we're gonna hate our team after GW 1 and will WC on GW 4 anyway, shouldn't we focus just on the first 3 fixture?

    🙂

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Pretty much yes.

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        One and a half eyes on the first four gameweeks and half an eye on the next four. You need some talented eyeballs though

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        1. Koflok
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          My eyeballs are da bomb

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Good stuff. You may be strong enough for the task then

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            1. Koflok
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              😉

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    2. Oz lotto
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      mentally prepare for that.. but you might luck out.

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    3. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      early wildcarders ftl. i'm playing the long game 😀

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      1. Koflok
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Early wildcard isn't always a bad thing IMO. If your team is a mess and you can get the early bandwagon right, it will be good for the long term.

        I think by 3-6 GWs we will see who are the potential season keepers.

        And with DGW we can always plan it out later on and with few hits.

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        1. aflickering
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          i agree haha, i'm being kinda facetious. i wildcarded early two seasons ago and got my highest ranking ever. last season i absolutely annihilated the final couple months of the season due to saving my wildcard though. it all depends on whether you hit a stage early on where your team looks like crap, basically.

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          1. Koflok
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah true. All depends on condition of your team at that moment.

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    4. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah, but I won't necessarily count on that.

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  15. Oz lotto
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Seriously considering going Sanchez and possibly Hazardless 😐 have I lost the plot? probably... but it affords me to have Dzeko, Rooney and Studge/Costa...

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Makes sense to me.
      Fab Sanchez Mata Arnautovic Siggy
      Rooney Dzeko Bony

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      1. Koflok
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Rotate Arnie / Siggy?

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Yep for the first 4 gameweeks. Then I'll let form decide but selling Arnie gw5 for whoever the best budget mid is could be a plan. If I haven't wildcarded by then which is likely 😉

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    2. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      i'm still not convinced about dzeko (are city gonna be fixture proof this early, and are we sure he won't be rotated?), but yeah i possibly prefer sanchez over hazard too. thankfully i have both though 😉

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  16. Dangerous Dave
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Erik or Nas?

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Eriksen.

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    2. aflickering
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      erik. if they were the same price i'd possibly favour nas, but with those fixtures i don't think he's worth that precious extra .5

      then again i have zero city coverage and this could very possibly bite me in the arse. fixtures really are nasty though, and i'm not convinced they're gonna be firing on all cylinders after so many of those players had a tough summer for various reasons.

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  17. Blue Lion
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    With all the price hike this time around, Isn't building a good TV a necessary tactic?
    Early WC seems the answer.

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    1. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I WCed in GW33 last to last year, and ended with a rank of 4k. WCed GW3 last year, and ended below 100k.

      Hardly conclusive, your statement.

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Yours is equally inconclusive Saniul

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        1. Saniul
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          What I mean is your FPL success hardly depends on a early or a late wildcardm it is much more trivial than that.

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      2. Blue Lion
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        But the prices are different this time. In place of a 5.5 Ramsey you have a 9 m Ramesy..and so on..

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      No more than any other season. I always wildcard early but it has nothing to do with tactics and everything to do with impatience

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    3. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      If you get your initial team right, then you'll build TV regardless. And you'll save your WC as well.

      That's why it's so so important to get the initial team right.

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        It is but it's also a lottery trying to get it right. Luck is a much bigger factor with pre-season teams than when we have actual form and trends to consider

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        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Luck plays a big part no doubt.

          But many often get attracted to big names and mess things up.

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      2. Zep
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        This...

        However, it is very difficult to achieve...

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        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Agreed. It indeed is.

          But hey that's where your missus/gf comes in. 😉 I always let her have the final say when I have a major dilemma pre season. 😆

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    4. Dangerous Dave
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Save that WC for the fixture congestion at end of year and you'll score big as you'll know all the form players.

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  18. raheemsterling
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Who's everyone got between the Davies in the backline??

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Try that one again...

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  19. Saniul
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Carl Jenkinson joins West Ham on a year long loan deal.

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Its a shame he's 5m. Would rather get Reid.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        And he ain't even be nailed-on.

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  20. Road to glory...
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hello friends, you are invited to play in my league, the code is 32802-24308

    Good luck!

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Stop posting this nonsense.

      I'm reporting you.

      21 of your last 40 posts was this exact post, its more than irritating to say the least.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        And he posts a different league code every time. Interesting.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          🙄

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  21. Twelve years a slave
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Krul is my main keeper

    Newcastle reserve keeper, Elliot 4.0 is my other keeper

    Thought long and hard about this. None of the 4.5 rotating options bring much to the table, Most weeks would be playing Krul anyway. The half million saved is sure to come in useful some time down the line. And the downside is very limited. No DGWs to worry about before the next wildcard.
    Not many posponed games anymore , so should have a keeper every week, and the tough fixtures just mean more save points

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      What will it take for you to change your mind on this strategy?

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        A glass of wine or two

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Solid tactic. Newcastle are dreadful defending but you get what you pay for. The extra funds are generally better used elsewhere

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Surely another 0.5 invested in goal will yield better fixtures (rotation) and therefore more points?

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Could do but we also know how rotation with cheap keepers can work out

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        2. Zep
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I agree, I've tried both options, and can't really find much use for the extra 0.5m that I feel would significantly improve my team...

          Perhaps 4.5 > 5m defender upgrade, but 2x 4.5m still seems the best to me...

          The only thing this Krul/Elliot option gives you is that if his returns become unpredictable in terms of home and away then you are not missing out, whereas that is a risk in rotations...

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            I rather two 4.5's too. Still a solid tactic though

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      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Only problem is Manonne(although) not nailed on, is perfect for GW 3-7.

        I would take it further and just gamble with Manonne.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          I'd expect Mannone to outscore Krul

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            Exactly

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        2. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah I'm also comfortable with gambling on Mannone. At least Krul is completely nailed on in the unlikely but possible event of Manonne losing his 1st team spot.

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  22. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    I guess no one wants Remy now...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/transfernews/article-2708072/Brendan-Rodgers-says-collapse-Liverpools-8-5m-Loic-Remy-unfortunate-prepares-welcome-Dejan-Lovren-Divock-Origi-Anfield.html

    I wonder if any possible future buyers can force Liverpool to produce medical records? I guess not.

    Poor guy.

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      There's always Crouch...

      lol

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        😆

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      I feel bad for him. And for me, was looking forward to watching him in the red 🙁
      He's a better fpl pick now though.
      Teams would rather use their own doctors then look at medical records I think

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    3. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      On a slightly more serious note, would be interesting to see if another team gives him a medical and finds no problems... although if he does actually have a heart condition, I can't imagine many teams would risk signing him...

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      1. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Not the biggest clubs but heaps of clubs would still be keen

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Surely it's more of a risk for those smaller teams, since 8-10m is a larger percentage of their financial capacity...?

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          1. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 3 months ago

            I suppose but smaller clubs have a lot more to gain by getting a player of his quality

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            1. Zep
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 3 months ago

              Yes that is true also...

              Providing he stays healthy...

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  23. TEKKERS FC
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    If you had to choose one Sanchez or Costa?

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    1. Dangerous Dave
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Sanchez.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Costa, focal point of Chelsea attack, while Sanchez one of many

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Sanchez

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    3. The Missing Link
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Costa

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  24. Venom Snake
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    My team is perfect why would I WC early? 😀

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    1. Blue Lion
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      "And they all cam tumbling after". 😉

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  25. Dangerous Dave
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Here it is. The team you all wish you'd created.

    Krul-Giv

    Wisdom-O'Shea-Collocini-Taylor-Cameron (all rotators)

    Erik-Yaya-Siggy-Mata-Wanyama

    Studge-(c) Roon-(vc) Giroud

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      No Chelsea. Start again.

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      1. Dangerous Dave
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        Chelsea will struggle at Burnley GW1.

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    2. Twelve years a slave
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      eriksen so last week

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        I like your defence strategy , only problem i have with it are the keepers. Not good to have krul when have collocini

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      2. Dangerous Dave
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        No viable alternatives to Erik. Maybe Nasri?

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  26. jp3
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Afternoon FFS community! I am looking for a draft-style FPL game and was hoping people could suggest some sites! I'm aware people have done this in the past on spreadsheets, but hoping for a more 'professional' solution. I have found http://draftfantasyfootball.co.uk/ and http://www.playtogga.com/ so far. Thanks!

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      fantrax.com

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    2. Blue Lion
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Fantrax.

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    3. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Nothing better than Fantrax.

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    4. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Highly recommend Fantrax...

      Just like everyone here who did before me... 😉

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  27. Saniul
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    So West Ham have sorted their back four for next season, then.
    Jenkinson, Tomkins, Reid and Cresswell.

    Could be hard to score against, unless Reid goes injured early once again.

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    1. The Missing Link
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Waiting for a kind run of fixtures and will get Reid or Jenkinson

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    2. pundit of punts
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      This.

      I worried about not owning a BFS defender atm.

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      1. Saniul
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 3 months ago

        But then, it is very unlikely to be a BFS team come start of the season. 😉

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        1. pundit of punts
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 3 months ago

          Nah...don't think he's in any danger. They didn't sack him when they had a horrendous run last season and were odds on for relegation.

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    3. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Hopefully he's not allowed to play v Arsenal, so they have to disrupt their starting XI to play us..

      Genius from Wenger, for a game that is usually difficult for us...

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    4. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Have you been following their preseason?

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  28. The Missing Link
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    I think Giroud is enough Arsenal cover early on, not going to score tons and will share most of the points between them. Agree?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 3 months ago

      Good to see we managed to hang on in the cricket.

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  29. teddy.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Morning Deadzone!

    Just thought I'd share my current FPL effort:

    Krul Guzan
    Filipe Azpilicueta Shaw Debuchy STaylor
    Sanchez Fabregas Sidwell Sigurdsson Elmohamady
    Rooney Giroud Dzeko

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  30. EmreCan Hustle
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 3 months ago

    Best combo?

    A. DDG Hazard Giroud
    B. Krul Fabregas Costs
    C. Krul Fabregas Rooney

    (Krul in each case being the lone keeper)

    Other premium forward is Sturridge atm.

    Thanks.

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