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14 June 2011 871 comments
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While their morale-sapping Wembley loss to Barcelona in May’s Champions League Final may have proved a chastening experience for Sir Alex Ferguson and co, the 3-1 defeat appears to have set the wheels in motion for a summer of restructuring as the club prepares for a Premier League title defence and another tilt at Europe.

With Paul Scholes and Edwin Van der Sar joining Gary Neville in retirement and with Owen Hargreaves’ contract running out, the winds of change are blowing through the Old Trafford corridors and Ferguson -renowned for his ruthlessness when it comes to shedding the club of players no longer required- is reportedly willing to rid the club of squad players such as Bebe, Darron Gibson and Wes Brown as he starts yet another rebuilding process. The United boss hinted just after the defeat to Pep Guardiola’s side:

“The challenge is always to improve yourselves. Over the years, we’ve done OK when confronted by things like this, and taking Barcelona on is another challenge. We’ve some very good players and, of course, where we start to find a way forward is something we’ll mull over the summer. We’re not lacking in ideas. Hopefully we’ll come up with the right ones.

“We want to improve. Of course, next season, we must improve even more. But we have a challenge with Barcelona. We all do. It’s no consolation being the second-best team. I don’t enjoy being second-best.”

The first player Ferguson has turned to is Blackburn Rovers’ highly-rated Phil Jones, with United beating off competition from the likes of Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool to snap up the youngster in a five-year, £16m deal. With their bid having triggered the get-out value in Jones’ contract last week, United were set to seal the transfer but, allegedly, a higher bid from Liverpool had the move on hold until today, when Rovers owners Venky’s finally agreed to the move. The deal will now officially be completed when Jones returns from international duty with the England Under 21 squad.

With Ashley Young’s move from Aston Villa imminent and David de Gea expected to arrive from Atletico Madrid, the next couple of months are shaping up to be a busy time for United.

The Statistics

Given his debut by Sam Allardyce in central defence against Chelsea in March only last year, Jones has proven to be a real inspirational character for Rovers, with a string of performances way beyond his teenage years both at the back and in central midfield.

Despite impressing in the middle of the park, Jones is ultimately seen as the natural successor to Nemanja Vidic, and the new certainly sees himself more as a centre-half:

“I’ve always said I aspire to follow John Terry, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand – I always watch what they do and try and learn from them. Defending isn’t just about tackling and heading, it’s also about getting the ball down and playing, starting the attack from the back“.

Jones’ subsequent 9 appearances at centre-half in 2009/10 impressed to such an extent the player signed a new, improved five-year contract that summer. A knee injury interrupted a fair chunk of last season, as Jones was sidelined from gameweek 18 to 30 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), meaning he started 24 league games for Rovers. Only 6 were at centre-half, however, and the rest in central midfield or as an anchor in front of the back-four.

At international level, he’s represented England U19’s 4 times and the U21 on six occasions, but has yet to score his first goal in professional football.

The Prospects

Much will depend on where Sir Alex Ferguson initially sees Jones fitting in. With Scholes and Hargreaves gone, will he find himself in central midfield? Certainly it’s an area he’s more than familiar with in the Premier League so far and a look at Jones’ OPTA stats show he averages the same sort of defensive output as the likes of Marouanne Fellaini, Alex Song and Nigel de Jong in terms of Tackles and Interceptions playing in front of a back-four. Jones made more Tackles per game in central midfield than both Carrick and Fletcher combined and he’d offer United a real ball-winning presence in the middle of the park, particularly on the road, with the champions winning just five games away from home last term.

At the back, only injuries to others and rotation would see him get much game time. Chris Smalling was the main beneficiary of Rio Ferdinand’s back injury last term, making 33 appearances in all competitions, with 11 coming in the league, the same number as Jonny Evans. Ferdinand played the 90 minutes in just 19 of United’s Premier League matches last time round and his fitness needs to be monitored but Smalling is seen as his heir apparent and should be the one to step in as and when cover is required. Jones‘ versatility should prove advantageous, with time in both defence and midfield. It’s as a defender he’s tended to pick up the Bonus Points, though, with 7 from nine games in 2009/10 compared to 11 from twenty-four games last season.

In spite of his midfield appearances last season, Jones should still be expected to be classified as a defender in FPL and come in around the 5.0 mark, similar to Smalling at the start of last term. While the move will prove beneficial to the player’s long-term development, there’s too much uncertainty surrounding his game time and expected position in the side, and Jones may be resultantly cast into the Fantasy wilderness in the coming season, with his time as an established star in the Man United XI still yet to come.

Further Reference

Phil Jones Wikipedia

Phil Jones v Man Utd 2010/11

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  1. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
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    Nice write up SP

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  2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
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    If he is priced at 5.0m would be viable squad selection ...

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  3. hillbillypete
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    he was in my team before he made the movo

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  4. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
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    I`m definately NOT looking forward to a mid/late July stampede of RMT`s ðŸ™

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Oh come on - you know you are, really!!! 😉

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    2. Bubbles
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      +1. It'll all get very generic after a week or so.

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      1. Jafalad
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        What we need is a generic rating scale 1-10. So, RMT. Give them a score and cut 'n paste your rater in to see where they fit.

        Simples 😉

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  5. mikess
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    right the risk is Smárason and DoÄkal out and Perepechko and Mata in. Had the luck so far so hope it continues

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    1. Jafalad
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      Why Mata jooi?

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      1. mikess
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        fancy him to score

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        1. Jafalad
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          Did he look likely in the first game? Bit of a gamble imo at 10 mill.

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          1. mikess
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            well I gambled on dockal as captain and that paid off, got me my screen shot of joint first. just got an inkling

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            1. Jafalad
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              Going with your gut. I like.

              😉

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              1. mikess
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                back fire no doubt

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            2. Bubbles
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              Awesome score. Did you win the ball?

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              1. mikess
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                doubt it, screen shot is enough. there's two others so it might go to the trophy/score thing they have going

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              2. Jafalad
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                😳

                The competition leader: big respect and 42 apologies 🙂

                Top effort mike!

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                1. mikess
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                  blagged it, wouldn't have had a clue without reading on here and pretty much clicking on every odd player and checking his history

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  6. Kings of Lyon ★
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    If he's a def in the game and is playing a defensive midfeild role at united as an OOP for 5.0m he looks like a winner, I just dont know if he'l get the game time.

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      As with all new seasons gonna be a lot of what ifs and hunches , hopefully the boselli mistakes etc will not happen next season !

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        Am looking forward to a much more rewarding season in FF terms & real life 😉

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
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          As am I .

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    2. Bubbles
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      I won't be going anywhere near him. Obviously won't be a first choice centre back, and the United midfield will be a rotation festival so can't see him being regular enough to warrant a selection.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        If he really is at 5, I may well have a little go with him ... can't see United buying him to let him languish on the bench too long ... Evans should look to his laurels!

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
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          Im with MMW on this. I wont have him for GW1 but he will def be high on my watch list. He would need to be playing 90 mins at a time dont want him being before 60 mins.

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          1. Bubbles
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            I suppose if he's around thr £5M mark and plays 3/4 or 3/5 games then he could be worth it, but I just don't like the idea of having a defender who isn't nailed on to start practically every game.

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            1. Kings of Lyon ★
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              I'm with you on that, but I dont know I think sir alex would play him at home to Sunderland and Fulham ect but rest him away to chelsea and Liverpool games where they are likely to conceed i know its all speculation the now but food for thought.

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  7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    Nice, Sir Paulos - again! 🙂

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    1. Jafalad
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      Everyone else is on holiday 😉

      Only the serious players are about now 🙂

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        Of course!!! 😆

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        1. Jafalad
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          Gawwddd. Just watching Black Swan. A real turkey. Some very awkward sex scenes.

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          1. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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            Any sex scenes that involve a real turkey are going to be very awkward...

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            1. Jafalad
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              😆

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          2. mikess
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            true she's flicking her bean every other scene

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          3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            The dancing's crap, as well ... ðŸ™

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            1. Jafalad
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              I think it's called ballet, Merry Mike 😉

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                Yes - and I'm a regular at Saddlers Wells ... 😉

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                1. Jafalad
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                  That good going for a Whammer 😀

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                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                    Clogs, tutus - it's all the same to me! 😉 Also, my youngest son is a ballroom dancing champion! 😀

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                  2. Jafalad
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                    We've got your Dancing on Ice over here now. Just seen the first two shows. Dominic Cork's on there 😆

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                  3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                    Good God!!! 😯 Pass the sick bag, Alice!

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  8. hillbillypete
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    If Drogba leaves Chelsea for the likes of Spurs would you have him in your team? Would be on pens?

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    1. Jafalad
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      Leeds? Defo! 😉

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  9. George Agdgdgwngo
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    Guys I could really do with some help with my U21 team, should i play my WC, any suggestions?

    Vaclík,
    Zanka, T. Klose
    Eriksen, G. Sigurdsson, Bjarnason, Stepanenko, Shaqiri
    Pekhart, N. Nielsen, Sigthórsson

    Subs: Siegrist, Řezník, Polyakov, Matvyeyev

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Yes - but the rumour is that Klose is playing - so keep him ... get rid of the Icelanders ...

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      1. George Agdgdgwngo
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        come on i need a bit more than that! who for?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          Belarusskis - Voronkov etc. - and Czechs.

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          Stepanenko is injured.

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      2. Jafalad
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        Traitor 😡

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          Yes - but I seen 'em play now ...

          *shudders*

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      3. mikess
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        well at least Bjarnason. I fancy the swiss to qualify so i'd get another cheap keep. well that's my wc plan

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      4. Bubbles
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        Booooo! I'm keeping my Icelandic big money guys. Gunnarsson can get lost though!

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        1. Bubbles
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          And one of them is getting the armband tonight as well, actually.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            Well, I expect you to be forty points ahead of me tomorrow, then! 😀

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            1. Bubbles
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              Ha! If it all goes wrong (and it probably will do) then the armband can just worm it's way over to Walker/Sturridge tomorrow.

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            Actually, I can't sort out my forwards - so Siggi might be in line for one more go ... 🙂

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      5. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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        what rumour?? instead of affolter? How come?

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          It was on here yesterday Mo. Something about Affolter being replaced but no source or confirmation.

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          1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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            ah, one of those! I thought he played pretty well

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    2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
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      RMT = 2 🙂

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      1. Jafalad
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        Assign a generic rater to 10 ppl on here. One number each.

        So 1/10 might be: "Give up now. Over 2 million play this game and that happens to be your rank. It makes little odds anyway as you'll have given up in two weeks."

        Or something like that. Doing the mid-range nos might be tricky.

        PDM: your time has come! Now get to it 😀

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    3. mikess
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      step is crocked aswell i think

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  10. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    Errr - what are people's thoughts on Sinclair, tomorrow night? 🙂

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Probably another great idea that just doesn't catch on. 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        Yep - oh, well, back to the drawing board!!! I'm having great difficulty getting up for three forwards in this tournament ...

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          Sinclair (C5) 🙂

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            He can actually run a lot faster than that!!! 😆

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        2. Jafalad
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          Danish Billy, Danny Boy and Marmelenko fwiw.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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            Have you actually looked at Bille? I can't pick a Ukrainian, in case he actually scores tomorrow!!! 😉

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            1. Jafalad
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              I hope Bille doesn't rhyme with vile? No, his time has come and the Belrusskis will get found out imo.

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                Polyakov, Perepechko & Voronkov say otherwise ... 😉 The Danes have a scoring problem ...

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                1. Jafalad
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                  Che? Billy lad scored a couple two games ago and I think he's on pens.

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            2. Jafalad
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              Sad day-I booted K'planka ðŸ™

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                Gahhh!!! 😯 You can't do that!!! 😀

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                1. Jafalad
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                  It was a ghastly episode, MM, if truth be told. No doubt, the Young Planka will strike vengeance upon me now 😯

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                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                    Errr - I've still got 'im! 🙂

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                  2. Jafalad
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                    6 hours of tinkering and I doubt you'll have him by ko 😉

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                  3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                    Also, IF the Danes score tonight - and it's an IF(/b>) that's getting bigger ... I'm betting it's a mid(Jensen) or a defender(guess who?) who does it ... 😀

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                  4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                    😳 - WordPress syntax fail ...

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                  5. Jafalad
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                    Yer Man, Zanka!

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                same ere!

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          2. In Like Flynn.
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            Ye Gods, Jafalad! Do you get commission every time someone transfers him in? 🙂

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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              Bloody Kiwis! They're always on a nice little earner!!! 😉

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              1. Jafalad
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                er,...that's them there Saffas over the hill I'm afraid. 😉

                They drive round with gold stashed in the boot of their cars.

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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                  I wish that were true ... 😉

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                  1. Jafalad
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                    I know that Inalize does 😉

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          3. mikess
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            bille will score today i reckon. I'm that confident

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            1. Jafalad
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              +42

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  11. Bubbles
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    Right then, I think I'm done with this wildcarding malarkey. I don't really have a clue, so anyone know of any reason why any of these mugs won't start? Ta.

    Sommer - Guschenko(non-starter)
    Walker - Montoya - Zanka - Wass - Polyakov
    Dockal - Sigurdsson - Herrera - Shaqiri - Perepechko
    Sturridge - Sigthorsson - Emeghara

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Montoya - Spanish subject to extreme rotation
      Sigurdsson - you need another player for Wednesday ... imo

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      1. mikess
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        get lb instead

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      2. Bubbles
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        Yeah, not sure on Montoya but I want some Spanish attack in there, and he's about all I can afford. Plus someone, think it was Jafa, said he had a load of shots last game so I'll take a gamble on him.

        And, how dare you talk about taking my captain out! 😉
        I've 9 playing (hopefully) tonight, and I quite like the idea of having more on the first day. Gives me more choice of who to take out for tomorrows subs.

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    2. mikess
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      pretty impressive

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    3. Jafalad
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      I'm pretty confident they will all start. Very similar to my wc team except the fwds.

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    4. Bubbles
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      Cheers all.

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  12. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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    unsure wheather to get rid of sigursson now as I wont be captaining him. On WC,. still only have 1 keeper and 2 dodge defenders....

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  13. DaleTheHornet
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    Paulos

    You should add a simple grading system to wrap up your scout reports. i.e

    Phil Jones 1/5
    Danny Graham 3/5
    ...

    Scale = 5/5 Tevez, 1/5 Bendtner

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    1. H Dog
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      GASP, a watford fan!

      Quick quiz : do you think doyley is god?

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    2. Fratboy
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      or maybe do what the sky sports scout does, ie:

      Shooting: 7 out of 10
      Passing: 7 out of 10
      Tackling: 6 out of 10
      Heading: 6 out of 10
      Pace: 9 out of 10
      Vision: 7 out of 10
      Current ability: 7 out of 10
      Potential ability: 10 out of 10
      OVERALL SCOUT RATING: 59/80

      Sky Sports Scout Ratings:
      0-10 - No hoper
      11-20 - Should look elsewhere
      21-30 - Might not make it
      31-40 - Has work to do
      41-50 - Keep an eye on him
      51-60 - Great prospect
      61-70 - On his way to the top
      71-80 - Already World-class

      (these were Hoilett's stats btw)

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        I like that idea but with FPL style ratings at the end, potential value for money, potential for OOP, set-pieces, bonus point magnetness.

        Also Hoilett is one of the first names on my team next year assuming he's 5.5ish.

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        1. Fratboy
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          Yeah I agree in a fantasy based style, but why not add more stats to a stats based game? People love that shit 🙂

          5.5 would be a great price for him, depends on fixtures I guess but we get to see them pretty damn soon!!!

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      2. DaleTheHornet
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        A rating out of 80 might be a bit subjective but you could do a rating for points:

        Defender "class"
        1-3 Goals
        +
        1-3 Assists
        +
        1-3 clean sheet (when playing)
        +
        1-3 bonus
        -
        1-3 red/yellow cards (3=red)
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        1-3 own goal
        x
        1-3 60 min appearances

        P Jones: (1+1+3+1+1)x1 = 7/30!

        You could even get users to vote on it

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  14. Jafalad
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    Right, off to bed. May the force be with you all in the U21s especially Danish Billy who will score a hatrick today 😉

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    1. Fratboy
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      🙂 that would be nice! night mate.

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      1. Jafalad
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        He'll bring home the bacon. Buona Notte!

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  15. Scroobius Mac
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    Dannish Billie is N. Nielsen isn't he?

    Trying to do Gudmundson > Sturridge in two transfers and don't know who to drop, any suggestions? Players I could lose are:

    Sigurdsson, Eriksen, Mehmedi, Nielsen and Pekhart - need to save 1.1.

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    1. mikess
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      Mehmedi > Perepechko

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        Isn't Mehmedi OOP? Plus I already have Kasami, can't really carry another useless midfielder.
        Was thinking Pekker > Sigthorsson?

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        1. Demí
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          There was talk yesterday that Kasami will be replaced in the line-up tonight for Gavranović

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  16. Damo.
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    Ok so Gudmundson to Fingbagoson
    Sigthorson to Sturridge. Yay or nay?

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  17. Demí
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    European U21's FF

    Quick Poll: Who are people captaining on the first day? 🙂

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Voronkov, probably ...

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Yep that'll be me, confirmed earlier. 😉 . Also quick note on the U21 forum.

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    2. Namtab Nomolos
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      Shaq, it can't hurt.

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    3. Bubbles
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      Either Sigurdsson or Sigthorsson today, but if that fails Walker or Sturridge tomorrow.

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    4. H Dog
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      Eriksen

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  18. H Dog
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    Good/Bad news for arsenal fans

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13759774.stm

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  19. In Like Flynn.
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    I really hope Spain get knocked out in the group stage. I don't have anything against them per se,it's just the semis and final would be so much more affordable without them. 🙂

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
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      The classic group scenario would be Spain lose to Czech while England beat Ukraine then England/Czech hold hands for 90 mins and draw to both go through.

      That's not taking into account the ability of the teams, just what opens up when there's one win and one drawn game in the first games of a 4 team group.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Could be a similar senario in group 1 with Belarus and Switzerland only needing a draw in MD 3

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  20. Demí
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    My rival has bought Mata in. Should i risk it and go for a differential, or play safe and get him too. I'm 9 points behind.

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      I would try someone else Demi. Not many of the "Fancied" players have done much so far, good luck.

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    2. mikess
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      end of day it's only 4 games, anyone could decide to turn up. Mata on paper is perfect

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    3. Demí
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      Cheers for the input guys. I've gone for Mata on a whim. It's not like he's a bad choice, i too have that funny feeling he will score.

      Hoping Herrera's goal was just lucky, and he doesn't come back to bite me.

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  21. In Like Flynn.
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    Bet365 have Sussex 11/10 at home against Somerset 8/11. It seems fair odds as we're at home and the moon's all but full.

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  22. mikess
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    i reckon belarus will scrape through, and the czechs will knock spain out making life interesting for us guys

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  23. J0E
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    This is me waiting for the new FPL to start

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccjfSyO9ncM

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Very restrained Jonty 🙂 Not doing the U21s?

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      1. J0E
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        When I put the washing away I've started laying out my shirts on my living room floor and rearranging them...that helps pass the time.

        and no decided to give the u21s a miss and have a break for a few weeks.

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          U21s was the only thing that stopped me doing the dispalcement activity stuff like rearranging things or being useful around the house. Never mind Jonty fixtures are out on Friday. 😀 😛 🙂

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  24. Namtab Nomolos
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    Is anyone else wondering if they'll be able to get a full team out for the final/semis.

    It's all well and good having 6 free transfers and being allowed 6 from each team (semis) then 9 from each team (final) but how are you going to be able to afford all the players that are starters?

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    1. Bubbles
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      You get an extra £5M after the group stages, I think.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Yes indeed,still be tricky if it's Spain and England final.

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      2. Namtab Nomolos
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        Ahh that's good then. That'll burn a nice hole in my pocket.

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    2. H Dog
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      I believe the world cup fantasy last year created the same situation.

      You can't have 11 players, you have to get the best players for that round

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      1. Namtab Nomolos
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        Actually, I wonder if we get the 3rd/4th playoff counting as part of the Final matchday? That would make it very interesting.

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
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          I think the winner of it gets auto-qualification for the Olympics so it's not a nothing match.

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  25. mufc802
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    Why didn't Perepechko rise in price then? He had over 100 transfers in yet other players like Javi Martínez went up and has only 50 transfers in?

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    1. Namtab Nomolos
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      Had he risen once already?

      Looking at some stats, one that leaps out is Denmark had 10 attempts on target, twice that of anyone else. (Ukraine and Belarus joint 2nd with 5)

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      1. mufc802
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        No he hasn't.

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
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          Only thing I can think then is most of those came after the last price rise deadline so he should rise tonight. I had a look and his ownership is certainly small enough for that NTI to bump the price.

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          He should have gone up,had waaaay over enough TFs in,I guess the people who make the choices hadn't got him in their team yet. 🙂

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          1. Andy2
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            Its to do with ownership!!!!!!

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              I'm afraid it can't possibly work to a straight mathmatical formular. Some up twice with almost identical figures. IT'S Subjective. And just someone like us seeing who they fancy putting up or down.

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              1. In Like Flynn.
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                *Formula...... r Jim lad.

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              2. Andy2
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                Jaysus,He had around 150 transfers in around 1:00 am but he had less than 10% ownership.Thats why he did not rise.He would rise tonight as he should be on around 15% ownership.

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                1. mufc802
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                  So... why did Smárason rise then?

                  He's on 8.6% ownership and only had 71 transfers in yet still rose. I actually took out Smárason for Perepechko because I thought he would rise.. but the opposite happened so I could have just waited for the Iceland line up to decide whether to keep Smárason. -_-

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                  1. In Like Flynn.
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                    It's a conspiracy against him and us Yateszy. 😡

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                2. In Like Flynn.
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                  OK explain Xhaka,Povlsen, Javi. Just accept it was a cock up that Perepechko didn't go up. Dockal has gone up twice with similar TFs and ownership

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                  1. mufc802
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                    They don't like Perepechko, he misses out on a price rise and the assist!

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  26. d0mz
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    me and my friends are doing two teams next FPL season - one normal bog standard team and another team where weekly transfers are banned (but you can still use wildcards (but it has to be in january)). we're doing the second team in an 'american football draft' type deal - to ensure that each team has completely different squad of players and thus i have a list of about 45 players i'd be interested in.

    anyone else ever done this? any ideas of players i should target?

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      Captains and penalty takers,set piece players from smaller squads?

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    2. H Dog
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      So, can you use transfers up until september, thus reflecting normal premier league regulations?

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      1. d0mz
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        no no - as in we'll get together (like 3 of us) just before season starts and do the draft, and once we've got all of our players then you cant tranfer anyone in or out. but obv you can use your bench and change that around every week etc.

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    3. Fratboy
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      ha no way! Thats EXACTLY what me and my friend were going to do next season as well!

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    4. d0mz
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      trying to figure out which order i should be picking my players in to get the best lot and to beat my friends to players. i'll be starting with a midfielder or two i think

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        So do you have to bid for players,or do you to pick one after each and so on?

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        1. d0mz
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          you take turns into picking players. so the person who finishes top of the mini league gets the first pick of player, so i'd choose, then my mate chooses, then my other mate chooses and back to me. and so on until we've all got a full squad.. obviously keeping in mind budgetting.

          i think the trick is getting players who you know will play every week and then rotate them from bench based on stregth of opposition..

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
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            I would think that in doing this you would need to be very consious of price. You dont want to be stuck with 16.0 left for 3 def and a stiker. But i do like the logic and idea behind it. What would happen if a player was sold abroad after GW1? you could be at serious advantage/disadvantage. hypothetically say you chose fab 1st at 12.0 and he goes to barca on transfer deadline day then your stuck with a 15th choice midfeilder... On the other hand you could buy tevez who you know wants away for 12.0 and then when he goes you get first dips on cristiano ronaldo who joins city.

            PLEASE NOTE these are hypothetical situations 🙂

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            1. d0mz
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              well then you have to take that into consideration - its the main reason why players like tevez and fabregas won't be on my list because i can't afford to lose them.

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              1. Kings of Lyon ★
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                Yeah I agree, its a cracking logic and could work well even on a larger scale. I like it and if i was about for the start of the season id suggest it.

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    5. PFOR
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      Sounds good!

      Care to elaborate? Might do that.

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      1. d0mz
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        see above

        we're still finalizing the rules of this so it can be easily adapted
        i'm told the times used to offer a draft fantasy football league for the prem but sacked it off due to lack of interest
        its a great idea - it works really well for american football etc
        if i could code i'd create a new one, but alas i cannot.

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        1. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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          i loved the times game, the player pool was was really nice touch, not much transfers between competing players but it was all about scouring the pool

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  27. mikess
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    come on iceland and denmark, i've kept faith, make my wc next round difficult for me

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      I was going to wish you good luck, but after your captain swap........... 🙂

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  28. jayzico
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    EuroU21s

    Hey dudes! Awesome reprieve to have this unexpected u21 euro's ff... only prob is WHO THE HELL are half of them... and rotation is beyond scary! I got 30 points in first gw. so played wc already.

    ANY advice would be much appreciated!

    Andersen
    Polyakov, Affolter, Montoya
    Mata, Thiago, Dockal, Shaq
    Sturridge, Yarmolenko, Emeghara

    Subs Vacilik (keeper) Perepechko, Suchy, Partsvaniya

    God knows whose gona play and who wont???

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    1. mufc802
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      Looks ok, lacking Iceland and Denmark attacking players, who I can't see not scoring for a second week running. One of Mata or Thiago or Dockal to Eriksen or Sigurdsson is my advice, but don't blame me if it don't work out. 😛

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      1. jayzico
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        sounds sensible. thing is im sure i'll want mata, thiago and dockai back??? and their prices will rise. but cool thanks mate

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          The better players on here seem to have group 1 players in starting 11 with Grp2 on the bench,if some of the first lot don't perform the Captain can bring on the bench for the second lot of games. There are risks to it.

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  29. harmonica
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    14 years, 10 months ago

    for anyone grasping for every last snippet of info on U21s, there is a chance Eggert Jónsson will be promoted to a midfield role in the absence of Gunnarsson.

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Nice. I already have him

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  30. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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    grrr played wc too early. ending up with sameish players than yesterday!

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    1. mufc802
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      You can still make changes before the games start later today. I wouldn't use the WC yet no stand out players worth buying yet. Might use it after tomorrows games though when we can see what teams are likely to reach the next round.

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        i ballsed up and activated it. You cant unactivate can you?

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