[sbu_large_image] The Knee Jerk
13 August 2011 2869 comments
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It was meant to be a comfortable home win, an opening day Anfield stroll against Sunderland. With Luis Suarez passed fit to play and the £50m midfield trio of Charlie Adam, Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson all making their Premier League bows for Liverpool, surely Kenny Dalglish’s side would pick up the three points and start the season with a bang?

Suarez opened the scoring- a twelfth minute header made amends for an earlier missed penalty- and had Fantasy managers ruing the decision to plump for the safety of Andy Carroll, in light of the Uruguayan’s recent three week break.

The first forty-five saw Liverpool dominant- Andy Carroll had a goal disallowed and Downing hit the bar as the Reds threatened to put the match beyond their visitors’ reach. For those of us with investment in Liverpool’s players, the second half looked promising..

Steve Bruce, however, had other ideas. Ten new signings over the close season suggests this is a side in transition but Sunderland showed a real battling quality that holds promise for the campaign ahead. A stunner from Seb Larsson -snapped up on a free transfer from Birmingham- stole the show after the interval as the Black Cats went toe to toe with their big-spending hosts and took home a well-deserved draw.

While Liverpool travel to the Emirates in Gameweek 2, Sunderland face a showdown with Newcastle at the Stadium of Light. If the Black Cats can replicate this type of determined performance in the Tyne-Wear derby, Alan Pardew may have more than just twitter accounts to keep him awake over the upcoming days.

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  1. anderson-son-son
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    Worst Fantasy Football weekend ever?

    Seems like everyone has done poorly, no one could log-in pre-deadline, the scores don't update regularly, you can't go back to work and school on the Monday knowing about the weekend gone because you need to wait for bonus points...the new FPL is dreadful.

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    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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      Petition! lol have you sent an email?

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      1. anderson-son-son
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        Yeah

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        1. Pabster
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          What address do you use? I just used the info@ address, but is there a better one?

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          1. anderson-son-son
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            I used the support one, but at the start of the e-mail I asked 'who do i complain to, but if it is this email, then read on'

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    2. Marknlard
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      If everyone's done poorly, doesn't that also mean everyone's done well?

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      1. anderson-son-son
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        No haha

        I couldn't change my side, as many on here couldn't, but luckily it didn't matter, because no heavily selected player has done well...yet 🙁

        Moses (C), Nasri and Cleverly >_>

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      2. Long ago I drew a walrus
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        If everyone gets 1 pt in a gw where most games are cancelled, is 1pt a good score? nah

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        1. Marknlard
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          It's all relative. 100 points when the average is 150 is rubbish. 10 points when the average is 5 is great.

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  2. nathanholt75
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    Is there any word or reason why the points have not updated?

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    1. Podge
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      Clusterf@ck is the word I think

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    2. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season rc…
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      Nope .... METRO(broadband) is so much slicker than FPL(dial-up)

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  3. Ole Gunnar Kush
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    Anyone know why Nzog was taken off so early??

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    1. Manamongst
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      Because Fat Charles is out of shape, he looked like he was running in sand.

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      1. Ole Gunnar Kush
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        Did he not play very well?

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  4. 4-4-who?
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    New FPL site = rubbish; wished I was playing the Daily Telegraph league now...

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    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      Just checked that out of curiosity and even trying to pick a team has pissed me off, FPL may be suffering but it's still a level above in functionality.

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  5. Private Meekly
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    So disappointing after all the build up. All the good bits have been removed from our game. The magic has gone.

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  6. Demí
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    Suarez 19% towards a rise

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    1. The buck stops with me
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      Should I do my transfers for next week now and who?

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    2. Countryside Ram
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      What site are you using? Link? Cheers

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      1. Demí
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        http://totalfpl.com/

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  7. Feanor
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    This new FPL is a major let-down. Yay we can set a vice-captain, but BP takes three days and apparently so does the general points scoring.

    It's like they want everyone to set their team on Friday night or Saturday morning and then stop visiting the site till some time on Monday.

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    1. Hect.OR 98th
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      that's probably what 75% of players do and FPL will know it. for me, they either cut corners technically to save money, knowing that the changes wouldn't be noticed by the majority of players, or have overstretched themselves trying to improve what was pretty damn good already.

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      1. Feanor
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        That may be, but surely they should be trying to get as many hits and therefore ad revenue as possible?

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        1. Hect.OR 98th
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          i guess so. therefore they must have over-stretched themselves with the time or budget available.
          i enjoy the game too much to walk away but after today, it has crossed my mind. BPs being handed out late is bearable, not knowing your team's score after the day's play is dreadful and not having live scoring rips the heart out of what made the game great.
          i do wish i'd gone with metro.

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  8. MJonno_79
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    Points are done
    Only joking

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    1. Shakey
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      MJonno_79 live at the Apollo.

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      1. MJonno_79
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        I thought about doing that joke in two halves but decided I would get too much abuse

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    2. Rock n Grohl
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      Yeah good one. Pure comedy gold.

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  9. Lucas Leiva
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    Barton v Morgan on twitter...

    http://twitter.com/#!/piersmorgan

    http://twitter.com/#!/Joey7Barton

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    1. applebonkers
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      oooh piers is a gooner as well. this is perfect. hopefully owen chips in too

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      1. IWantaSpanishVilla
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        Ha. Im actually liking both of them. At least they have a go at people who get at them on twitter.

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    2. Locarno
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      Morgan is such a dick. Those two will be arguing for months.

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    3. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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      Morgan is pure gold, best wind up merchant around... 🙂

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    4. Manamongst
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      Yeah funny stuff:

      "@Joey7Barton you and Song should have been sent off for those haircuts alone..."

      he forgets to mention Gervinho's hair...

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      1. Demí
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        that would've ruined the joke though

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  10. The Hitch Hikers Guide to t…
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    WOw i just saw the highlights of the arsenal vs Newcastle!!!

    Barton is a female cat. Pu$$y. New hated player in my book.

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    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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      should have been sent off himself.

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      1. King Eric, in America
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        *sigh*

        Why, exactly? [and "his hair", although true, is not an answer]

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    2. The buck stops with me
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      Should I make my transfers now and who do ya reckon will go up?

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      1. MJonno_79
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        Yeah I would . Transfer over to metro

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        1. The Hitch Hikers Guide to t…
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          Always wait till thursday or Friday to tranfer. U never know who will come up with a flue, or injured.

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  11. nathanholt75
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    so is that fact. we won't get the points for 2 - 3 days?

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    1. The Hitch Hikers Guide to t…
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      no one knows its the first time be used actually. Its up in the area for now.

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    2. Just One More Thing
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      No guarantees of anything I'm afraid - we used to slag off some of the 'real-time' score updates, the bonus points system...what we would give for it all to be put back the way it was - embarrassing and frustrating in equal measure.....

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      1. The Hitch Hikers Guide to t…
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        it was fast tho. Much faster then this lag

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        1. Just One More Thing
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          Much faster and much more reliable - one step forward and 100 steps back. It'll be interesting if any wholesale concessions are made but to be honest I think the "same for everybody" approach (though not strictly true) will apply.

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  12. Messi & fabregas
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    AGREE

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  13. Forest4Life
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    When are first points out??

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  14. MJonno_79
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    Atleast match of the day is on soon. Hope it doesn't fail like fpl.

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  15. robhayes13
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    My friend was giving today at work out that he couldn't change his captain before deadline because the site was down.....

    His captain?

    Gary Cahill

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    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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      noooooo, incredible

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    2. nathanholt75
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      haha - ba5tard

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    3. Arselona
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      Win

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  16. anderson-son-son
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    I seriously can't believe how bad the new site is...

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  17. Bartowski
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    Wow alot of peeps transferring out Taarabt, anyone know how many it would take before his price drops

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    1. BONZ
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      2more i think!

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    2. nathanholt75
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      I heard 30k...

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      1. Telly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        http://totalfpl.com/

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        1. Telly
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          so far 876 people have sold him. His price is nowhere near going down for a while!

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          1. Feanor
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            I might dump him for Jarvis.

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            1. Telly
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              I'd wait until next Friday/sat. His price isn't going to drop and you don't know what tomorrow or Monday will throw up.

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        2. Long ago I drew a walrus
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          +1, he's not even on the fall list

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  18. @FPLStrategist
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    To the owners of fantasy football scout. With the arrangement in place between yourselves an the fpl, surely a message can be relayed on our behalf regarding the lack of live updates. It seems that these changes have been made without any input from actual players of the game.

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    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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      +100000000000000000000000000000000

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      1. Telly
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        It also is bad for Fantasy Football Scout's business. If FFL essentially is useless whilst the games are being played then why would I check the Fantasy Scout website so often as I have in the past?

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        1. Hect.OR 98th
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          i do feel sorry for Mark and co. They deserved to be affiliated to the FPL for the excellent work they do with this site. i didn't buy the criticism of them for doing so - they should be rewarded and thanked for their sterling efforts.

          however, they are unlucky to be officially linked at such a dreadful time, and it will reflect on ffs for those that don't know of its history. as TJ101 said, if FPL isn't sorted out then I will become a casual player and won't use this site anywhere near as often. i'm not yet a paying member but at this rate, i wouldn't become one anyway.

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          1. Telly
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
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            I paid up and joined this year as I love FF Scout. It's not that I would cease to like the FF Scout website, it's more that as you say, I'm likely to become a casual player and so not be so involved in FF. I happily paid already but it may impact my decision for next year or other player's decisions to pay/sign up.

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    2. Forest4Life
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      Agreed

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    3. ozone
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      posted the same thing a couple of hours ago got no reply.

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    4. Mark
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      I've tried to contact those involved and I will try again tomorrow. Basically, I've said that if there is is information they want/need to pass on then I will relay it here. I of course agree that we all need clarity on the situation and I hope we can get it soon.

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  19. GREENDREAMS11
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    saha & cahill for next week anyone ?

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    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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      nooope

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    2. Chazza
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      1 week wonders? Baines- perfect starting opportunity and then in for the season for me.

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    3. GREENDREAMS11
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      thats the tim type of cahill rather than the gary type

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      1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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        ahhhh nooope 😉

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  20. @FPLStrategist
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    I would take everything about last years version, the emergency captain, the sometimes dodgy bonus points...everything...instead of this new version.

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  21. Ed
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    Anyone know why Orr didn't start?
    Also what is the FFS league code?

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    1. Chazza
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      Apparently Kieron Dyer started at right-back? (Someone in the chatroom said so) But Dyer is injured so it's gotta be Orr's spot now?

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    2. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 15 Years
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      FFS league code should be on front page.

      I read a post on here before about the QPR back 4, apparently Orr is not meant to be a starter for QPR, you'll be better off getting Gabbidon. But now Hill is suspended so maybe Orr will get more starts.

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    3. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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      didnt start damn!! What was dyre's injury? was it the bad one i heard on the radio?

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      1. Locarno
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        Does it matter? It's Keiron Dyer. The only thing that changes is the nature of the injury.

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        1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
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          which was?

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          1. Pete000
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            Bruised foot.

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  22. Bartowski
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    Yeah if that is gonna be the case every week then it just shows the disconnect they have with their own game to not even think thats an issue.

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  23. flipmode_1
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    At first I thought I had done pretty poorly, even though none of my midfielders scored or assisted today, looking back seems my defence have saved me slighty, given, Simpson, kompany and Hughes was selected for gw1, so barring some miracle on Monday night I should have clean sheets for all the defenders and gk. Hoping Moses grabs some bps and with malouda, nani and Rooney(c) playing tomoz I reckon between them there should be some nice pointage gained I should be ok in the end.

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  24. don parcheesi
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    I've been pleased by the "calm down" posts that pop up once a page, so ill throw mine out there.

    Calm down good people. I can't imagine we'll have 37 more gw's with these technical problems from fpl. If im wrong, then shame on them. But I have faith the bugs will be worked out.

    Now, from a points perspective... everybody panic...

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      Agreed, although it's annoying (especially for the people who wanted to change their teams before KO) I'm sure FPL are just getting rid of the bugs for the new site and should be fine for everyone this time next week 🙂

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    2. @FPLStrategist
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      Not so sure if what people are pissed about are technicall issues. Assists are being reviewed at night, bonus are being given on Monday's and live updates seem to be a nonrunner. That kills the game for me.

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    3. clauxy
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      +100

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  25. Long ago I drew a walrus
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    I don't know what I am more p*ssed about, the fact that I couldnt change my team last night, or the fact that my bench has more points than several hundred thousand teams out there, if not over a million...

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    1. Lucas Leiva
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      sooo...who was on it? 😀

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      1. Long ago I drew a walrus
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        Given, Formica, Simpson, De Laet

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  26. Alonso14
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    support@mail.fantasy.premierleague.com
    date 13 August 2011 22:04
    subject New System

    hide details 22:04 (2 minutes ago)
    Hi There

    I am sure you have been in-undated with emails around the fiasco of the FPL website this morning and whilst I appreciate that its free to play, we have 20 players paying £50 each making it a pot of £1000!!!!!

    In addition to needing the site to be available in the 24 hours leading up to the deadline can I also ask that you implement the following:

    1. PLEASE BRING BACK LIVE SCORES, THIS WAS THE BEST FEATURE OF YOUR SITE, E/G WE ALL KNEW WHERE WE STOOD AND GOAL AND ASSISTS WERE ADDED AS THEY HAPPENED

    2. PLEASE CAN YOU AWARD BONUS POINTS ON THE DAY OF THE MATCH

    There 2 simple amendments will ensure you continue to be the best fantasy football site, as i fear metro and others have taken this mantle.

    Please let me know

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    1. BONZ
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Alonso 14.......you feked a few teams yourself last year - i seem to recall?

      Payback is a biatch!

      Where u getting the £50 - been looting av u?

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    2. Lucas Leiva
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      I'm obviously not part of the FPL or FFS team, but I doubt they've got rid of the live points update, it's just not working right on the opening day.

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      1. applebonkers
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        i trust this is the case also.

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        1. Locarno
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          And me. They'd be really stupid and oblivious of public opinion if they got rid of it.

          So I guess it's gone.

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      2. GREENDREAMS11
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        agreed. personally i think the new look FF Site looks great, its just teething problems. once they sort out the glitches it will be better than the old version. the waiting for bonus points we'll get used to. It will give you an excuse to go in on monday and see how little points we have got. they probably need more time due to the new way the baps are being awarded, ie not some old guy up in the stands saying i liked him today. the points will probably be updated on tues/wed so no need to lose sleep over it

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        1. clauxy
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          +100000

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      3. Marknlard
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        Yeah, clearly been a bad day so they've probably switched the points off for now.

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    3. Locarno
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      Surely you saw this coming, Alonso?

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  27. BONZ
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    Which surprised you the most:
    1 = Kuyt was omitted today.
    2 = Villa had 2 strikers up top.
    3 = QPR were shocking
    4 = Blackburn are still sh8t.

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    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Most surprising - Villa
      Least - Blackburn

      Kuyt wasn't starting in pre-season and QPR weren't going to be amazing but surprisingly terrible.

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    2. The Holy One
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      3

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    3. Lucas Leiva
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      Although it might sound stupid - 3.

      I probably expected them to get a win today and maybe even keep a clean sheet 😆

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    4. Long ago I drew a walrus
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      1. Having spent like £50mil on midfielders, rotation was always likely.
      2. Bent and Agbonlahor had played together before in pre-season, McLeish said that he would do it again. What surprised me was that Neither Albrighton nor Ireland started
      3. Big surprise, I expected them to win, certainly not capitulate and get trashed. I thought Bolton's away form was meant to be rubbish?
      4. Well, they are, arent they? They will face a huge fight to stay up this season, mark my words, their only bright spark will be Formica, if anyone keeps them up it will be him.

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    5. Just One More Thing
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      3 - the 4-0 defeat and I had Kenny in between the sticks 🙁

      I was expecting a bit more steel from Blackburn too - Salgado was responsible for both goals - guess who had him in for a Thursday night "draft" team...and he stayed there?

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    6. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
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      was surprised it was 0-4 but not surprised to see kenny looking like the new carson.

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    7. Natas
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      5) Barton only got a yellow

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  28. Marco Del Wattsio
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    you know someone out there got 80 odd points today!!

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  29. Locarno
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    Hands up those who have wildcarded already (he types one-handed).

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    1. Long ago I drew a walrus
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      not yet... but as soon as the FPL site gets fixed and i actually get to see things properly... YES.

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  30. bossa
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    Anyone throwing Taarabt out after todays game?

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    1. Feanor
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      I'll swap him for Jarvis later this week.

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      1. bossa
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        Taarabt out for Jarvis or Formica?

        Or should I replace Suarez with Carroll first??

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    2. Countttom
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      nah leave him for now...apparently he's gonna get rinsed on MOTD tho

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      1. bossa
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        Good one, watch MotD first!!

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    3. Lucas Leiva
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      No.

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    4. Marco Del Wattsio
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      no not yet. no knee jerk reactions after one game.

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