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27 August 2011 3390 comments
Mark Mark
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When it comes to Fantasy talent, more often or not, you get what you pay for.

When the pre-season price lists emerged, we spent the weeks before kick-off lamenting the price of established heavy-hitters and harbouring hopes that a string of mid-price midfield talent could fill gaps in our squads. The savvy Fantasy manager could see the potential. There were secret meetings about the promise of Victor Moses, whispered pub conversations about the prospects of Jamie O’Hara.

Consistency comes as a price, however. When we take a punt on mid-price talent, we’re not in a position to rage when the points aren’t delivered. We will rage regardless but, when the mists clear, the reality is that we have to have patience to get the most from these players.

Or do we? With an international break denying us Fantasy action next weekend, there’s now an alarming gap between Gameweeks – a yawning void that can easily prompt the sturdiest of knees to twitch into a full blown jerk; particularly if the Gameweeks have so far failed to deliver.

There will be glares of frustration aimed at an array of players, many of which came into the season with weighty expectations on their shoulders. You can take the aforementioned Moses and O’Hara and add Scott Sinclair, Adel Taarabt, Stephane Sessegnon and, in particular Charles N’Zogbia – currently the third most owned midfielder in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game. Should Chris Brunt and Stewart Downing draw further blanks in their matches this weekend, you can then throw their names into the hat.

A hit-list? A compilation of failing Fantasy talent that’s ripe for the chop? While the international break will tempt wholesale changes from the suffering Fantasy manager, short-term squad surgery has to be controlled. Our mid-price talent should surely be given time to demonstrate their worth.

The signs have been positive enough – Taarabt struck the woodwork twice at Wigan today, Moses had further opportunities and struck the bar at Swansea, Sinclair was also denied by the bar against Sunderland. Should we expect more? Did we really expect such players to deliver on their promise immediately?

The answer to that depends greatly on whether your heavy-hitters have been performing. If you’re without Wayne Rooney, Luis Suarez and David Silva, then their pulling power over the break will be substantial and is likely to prompt change. Come the revolution, the ailing mid-price midfielder could be first to go – downgraded to bench-warming fodder, sacrificed to bring in a big name elsewhere.

Such a decision has to be taken with care. That’s the thing about the consistency of a mid-price midfielder – just as we’re on dodgy ground when we’re berating its failure after three Gameweeks, we’ll only have ourselves to blame when it delivers on its promise out of the blue.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. mike
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    When do they usually do the bonus points?

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    1. Tuchap - Lurker
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      New rules this season, Monday morning for weekend bonus points.

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      1. mike
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        Darn have to wait until then to see what Daren Bent haul is - or lack of

        Cheers

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  2. applebonkers
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    holt's relly not a fat man, just has a weirdly big chest

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Promising performance from what I've seen.

      Plan to field him next week at home to West Brom.

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      1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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        Plan to never have him in my team lol

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      2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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        Nice finish though what was Hilario doing????

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    2. Gargamel
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      Definitely a fat man! Much fatter than most other fat footballers.

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      1. Marknlard
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        Check out Jon Parkin at Cardiff for a genuinely fat footballer.

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        1. applebonkers
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          beefy

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          1. Marknlard
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            And he's bloody awful too.

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            1. Locarno
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              Plus a lot. Gives me hope of one day being a pro footballer.

              Just need to put on 90 pounds.

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        2. Gargamel
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          I like it.

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        3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          the beast!

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          1. Marknlard
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            The very same.

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            1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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              i saw him play at preston a couple of times

              funny

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              1. Shakey
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                but Preston isn't anywhere near Shoreditch? 😕

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                1. AP
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                  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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                2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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                  why the f*ck do you also think i live in shoreditch!?!

                  i thought only ap was on that particular spaceship

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                  1. jamsiep
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                    Hook. Line. Sinker.

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  3. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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    Anyone that brought Hilario in thinking Chelsea aren't going to keep a clean sheet the whole time he's in goal for them???

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    1. stevie
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      ayyyye! doesnt look like he knows what hes doing in the highlights here

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      1. stevie
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        gona try n get vrom befor the price rise.

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  4. Red_Devil_
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    Is mata the new silva or is it worth buying silva if I don't have him already - I have ya ya?

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    1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      mata in for Nani for me as have Roo coverage and no chelsea coverage and already have Silva

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  5. Leysh
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    Nice finish from Holt!

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      Agreed. Opportunistic but clinical.

      Could have had an assist if it wasn't for Morrison dragging his heels!

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      1. Leysh
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        Definitely. Should have scored on that run.

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  6. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    huth is bound to get a goal soon i hope

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    1. Dre
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      bound to get sent off more like!

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  7. applebonkers
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    so does ivan now get dropped? alex did after 1 mistake

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      i asked the same thing earlier!!!

      still pissed at avb

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  8. Evs
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    I miss RBJ, where is he 🙁 ????

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  9. @ImpressiveTackl
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    Is Drogba unconcious!?

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    1. applebonkers
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      for half an hour apparently. 50mins less than torres

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        you're on fire

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    2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      yes 11mins injury time played

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  10. PFOR
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    Is it just me or does Drogba seem to be within inches of scoring every free-kick he takes?

    He doesn't actually score that many.

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    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Scored a bunch last season and the year before that if I remember correctly.

      Nobody really scores that many free kicks tbh, or at least very few players do.

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      1. PFOR
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        Suppose you're right. Main point is that he never really puts it in row Z. Hits the crossbar a lot.

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    2. jamsiep
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      You obviously didn't watch the whole game. He took one terrible free kick a couple of minutes before the one they showed.

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  11. applebonkers
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    if the chelsea physio doesn't wake him up you know it's serious

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    1. Fancy Feet
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      fit

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  12. Mull
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    Should have sent Torres off, would of loved to see the backlash if that happened.

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  13. Shakey
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    wtf was Hilario doing????

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  14. chinmusic
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    Nice dive over the leg from Ramires there

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    1. chinmusic
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      The arm I mean

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  15. Shakey
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    such a dive by Ramires. Lucky f*cking Lampard.

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    1. jamsiep
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      Get a grip.

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      1. chinmusic
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        Almost identical to one I remember Rooney doing over Almunia

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        1. Shakey
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          Carbon copy.

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    2. AP
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      Err, quackery. Definite penalty.

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  16. Gargamel
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    Chelsea should obviously have kept Magnus Hedman.

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  17. applebonkers
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    would have been hilarious if they just ripped off the Y and gave gave rudd ruddy's shirt. credit crunch

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      LOL is there actually a rudd?!

      i honestly assumed that rudd was a mistake by the new FPL!!

      ha

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      1. applebonkers
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        declan rudd

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  18. @ImpressiveTackl
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    Ahhhhh Frank, thank you for proving you were the best Chelsea selection. Did you see that cross for Ivan!? He should have have had an assist too!

    Also Anelka should start for the blues.

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    1. jamsiep
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      Chelsea fans aren't allowed to like Anelka.

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    2. Mull
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      Almost another goal as well!

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I agree. And he should have the chance to start centrally too. Remember how good he was the only year he actually got to play the main part of Chelsea's games centrally? Golden boot and all.

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  19. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    any chance dempseys price will drop soon ?

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  20. Ramseys Rovers
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    doing torres,sinclair -> mata,dzeko
    should i do it tonight? no magin for error so if torres goes down i'll have to rethink

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    1. Captain Remorse
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      Patient: Forum Doctor, I have a problem. My Torres is just not perfoming well and I am worried that it will even go down tonight.

      Forum Doctor: Don't worry it seems to be a very common problem amongst older men on this forum who have had their Torres for a long time in the hope it will get better. I recommend a litte light blue pill called 'Aguero' and if that doesn't work we can try this little red one, but it's so strong it might even put hair on your head....try it tonight.

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      1. Ramseys Rovers
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        cheers for that, really set on mata though, hes the shot in the arse chelsea needed. with 8.5 for a stiker i cant see better than dzeko
        will be taking the red pill too though

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  21. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
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    oooh AVB bitchy

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  22. Mull
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    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    3,463rd in the world with Rooney, Silva, Kompany, Brunt and Simpson to play. Happy with That 🙂

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  23. PFOR
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    Did AVB take the number 10 off Benayoun and give it to Mata? Lol harsh.

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    1. Mok
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      Benayoun will be leaving anyways

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  24. Gargamel
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    I think the rule stating players can be sent off while also causing a penalty for denying a goal scoring opportunity should be reworked. It's a double punishment where both parts are really big.

    It would be better if the red card was instead a yellow if a penalty was also awarded imo.

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    1. Shakey
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      I think it's good as it is.

      When Suarez did that handball on the line, people were saying that a red card and a penalty wasn't enough punishment!

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        That was a bit of a freak situation though, don't you think?

        In general I don't think just preventing one goal from possibly happening should be punished by firstly giving the opponents a similar chance of scoring and then ALSO being one man up for the rest of the game. Doesn't make sense to me.

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        1. Shakey
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          It's difficult to work out whether a player is trying to take the ball, or genuinely being unsporting though.

          It would just make a lot of players 'accidentally' fouling players who were going through on goal.

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        2. Marknlard
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          It's a freak situation because of the red card. Make it a yellow and it'll surely become more commonplace.

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          1. Gargamel
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            • 16 Years
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            I admittedly had not thought about the handling on the line situation. I do think it's rather different from a foul from the last man causing a penalty.

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        they said that after the f*cking pen was missed yes!!

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
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      agree. also when it's a 50-50 call and it's either a penalty and a red card or nothing then that's a massive contrast for 1 referee decision

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    3. andy85wsm
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      I don't see how that would work. If it's a foul in the box when would you ever get a red card? Surely it would all be yellow and a pen.

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
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        But a yellow and a pen is quite a punishment too, don't you think? In 4 cases out of 5 it's a goal for the opposition, that's not good.

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    4. Marknlard
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      I see your point but penalties aren't easy. By hitting Ramires, Ruddy stopped him having an open goal. If Ruddy had stayed on and Chelsea had a penalty vs a goalie then that's a harder situation than an open goal. A yellow rather than a red would encourage players taking a defensive gamble and hauling down a player with comparatively little to lose.

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      1. chinmusic
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        True.

        The rule could always be changed so that the offending player gets a yellow card if the penalty goes in and a red if it's saved/missed.

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        1. Marknlard
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Oooh, tactical penalty taking. Better to score or miss?!

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          1. chinmusic
            • 16 Years
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            It would a certain something to a game!

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      2. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        Hmm.

        I disagree with this. I don't think players would do that, roughly 80% of penalties are scored (even if 6 out of 9 have been missed this season).

        Also I think plenty of players are sent off for touching players that are through when they actually have absolutely no chance of reaching the ball before it goes over the touchline, in which case a penalty is a much better chance of a goal.

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        1. Marknlard
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          Our first disagreement. 🙁

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          1. Gargamel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            🙂

            Probably a good thing to disagree about, until I actually phone Lord Triesman and force this rule change too. Then it will turn real nasty.

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  25. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    if i thought hernandez was a nailed on starter i would be tempted to sell benty and buy him

    but as SAf loves the old rotation its bad idea i think

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    1. Chazza
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      He won't get straight back into that team- well for most of the game anyway. Rooney or nothing.

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    2. Steve
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      i'd like to buy welbeck, but worried now chica is back on the scene

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  26. Zico27
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    AVB - Mourinho in disguise????

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  27. Steve
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    am i mental letting Shearers analysis put me off buying a chelski def (Bos)?

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      what did he say? not watching it

      i'm meant to be buying boswell tonight

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    2. jamsiep
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      Yes.

      "I'm not sure if he [Villas Boas] has asked them to play a higher defensive line, or something"

      Certainly looks like it, doesn't it Alan.

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    3. Chazza
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      Forget his analysis. Fact of the matter is Chelsea have only kept one clean sheet out of 3- conceding goals against West Brom and Norwich at home. I don't want a defender relying on his attacking output.

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    4. Ginkapo FPL
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      Yeah, Cech will be back soon. And Luiz

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      1. Steve
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        he was banging on about Chel not being as defensively solid as in prev years and then commented as per jamsiep

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  28. Skorge88
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    Damn i hate this game. . .

    Want to bring in RVP for Torres before potential price drop tonite which would make him unaffordable.

    Is bringing in glassman Persie for GW4 with 3 games before then(United + 2 Internationals) worth the risk?

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    1. Dre
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      • 14 Years
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      ive gone for it, worst case scenario is you transfer him out in gw5

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  29. Steve
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    Torres is getting the bullet, suggestions for who to replace him with? I'm thinking cheap to free cash to beef up my mf. Also is how long did Mata get today, is he going to be nailed on?

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      fletcher or long

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    2. applebonkers
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      could be aguero time even though that's not cheapening up. mata should surely come in now properly, chelsea were poor again. he got about 30mins today

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      1. Steve
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        long might be a good call, already got Aguero and suarez plus a load of cash tied up in def, hence the need to beef up the mf. Only got Silva performing for me

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  30. Cruicky
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    Would of loved Torres to get a red card and be on -2.

    The reactions on here would have been hilario-us.

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    1. Chazza
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      +1

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