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1 October 2011 1815 comments
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There’s nothing like the smell of a Derby in the morning.

The Dugout Discussion now opens as Everton play host to Liverpool in our early kick-off and with a bang things shall begin, one doth imagine.

Louis Saha finally returns to the Everton team as he replaces Phil Neville in the only changes for the hosts while the short-haul visitors also make a solitary change with Dirk Kuyt coming in for Jordan Henderson. Teams in full are…

Everton XI: Howard, Hibbert, Distin, Jagielka, Baines; Coleman, Rodwell, Fellaini, Cahill, Osman; Saha

Liverpool XI: Reina; Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Enrique; Kuyt, Lucas, Adam, Downing; Carroll, Suarez

The five remaining three o’clock fixtures, while not on quite the same level locally, promise just as much interest for the Fantasy Managers looking to snap up some big scores before another international break.

Eyes will then be firmly planted on the likes Nani and Wayne Rooney (at home to Norwich), David Silva and Sergio Aguero (visiting wayward Blackburn) and a feast of players from Barry Bannan to Steven Taylor as things wrap up a little earlier for Fantasy Managers today.

Unless, of course, you have a hankering for some punishment and decide another derby (Leicester visiting Derby, in fact). The 124 Fantasy Managers in our Texaco Fantasy Championship Scout League may be just mad enough. And me, the Leicester fan.

Andy Leicester won the Premier League. Leicester. Premier League. What is this life? Follow them on Twitter

  1. BallyMac
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Will be interesting to see how the city bonus pts are allocated. Four goals, Balotelli scored but was wasteful at times, Nasri will surely get the three, Silva was clearly the best player in the first half and picked up an assist but wasn't amongst the goals. What do people think?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Silva won't get any

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  2. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    baps:
    rooney NO CHANCE 5 off target, 2 on.
    bendtner and carroll nailed on for 3
    balotelli no chance
    bent could pip agbonlahor to the 3
    nasri and adam johnson for the 3 and 2
    morrison and elmo the 2 and 1, long looks like missing out

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Carroll over Suarez? Why

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        suarez had 2 shots off target, carroll none. also in reality suarez was poop

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        1. smuggs
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          saurez was the best player by a mile he kept making the everton centre half switch places and played loads of little layoffs which bought adam and lucas up the pitch. i take it you looked at stats for carrol and did not watch the game

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          1. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            i disagree, the suarez i saw gave the ball way a lot today and a gift of a goal saved him

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          2. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
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            p.s for bps i do look at the stats, as that's what they're based on and i only have the nerve to post these predictions as so far they've been almost spot on every week

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            1. Manamongst
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              Agree with most of what you´re saying but how many stat categories will Carroll actually get into when he didn´t really recieve the bal much and in turn didn´t make many passes compared to influential passes Sarez was involved in, as well as on target shot?

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        2. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          He was still better than Carroll....
          Plus he earned a penalty, but I doubt that means anything

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        3. Park the bus
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          suarez was poop? good lord what game were you watching. the boy pulls defenders all over the shop, terrific movement, great touch, a top finisher. in the old system he would be nailed on for 3 with carroll & enrqiue fighting it out for 2 & 1. I think Enrique will be in with a shout of maximum BPs.

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          1. smuggs
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            ledders dont be to hard some people i think come in from work and just look at stats and then make comments. liverpool looked but i think downing needs to add a little more.I can see bellamy getting the nod soon

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            1. Manamongst
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              Does Bellamy have a neck? Agree though he has to have a nod soon, but not for Carroll...he´s too pot committed into not having Carroll implode personally.

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          2. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            carroll 3, suarez 2, enrique 1

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          3. applebonkers
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            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            for his standards he was poop. if i'm the only one who saw him lay it off to an everton players over and over i can deal with that.

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        4. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          Presumably two Liverpool fans jumping to the defence of their God here.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            haha most likely.
            Suarez 3, Carrol 2, Enrique 1.
            That is my prediction anyways

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          2. smuggs
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            blackpool my team live in leicester and go to see them alot and my 2 freinds follow everton and sunderland so i really dont like liverpool but the whole of the everton midfield could not track saurez the whole game and hibbert and baines just offered the centre halfs no help. if it was not for downing being wasteful and general lack of ideas from carrol and kuyt then everton were there with 10 men for a 4/5-0 defeat and thats the differance city and utd smell blood and kill teams

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            1. Manamongst
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              Agree, they got their legs after the goal and bellamy and kept a semblance of possession afterward.

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      kolarov could get the 1 to give him 10 points

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        😛

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    3. Scroobius Mac
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Chances of Welbeck? Think he had one on one off?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        3bp surely

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    4. MrAnderson
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      anderson for any baps? what about cabaye of newcastle do you think?

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        goalscorers to pip cabaye, anderson yeah him and welbeck for the 3 and 2

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    5. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      What about Nani?

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Sheesh.. He only played 63... Lucky break. Lining up Nani > Silva this week.

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      2. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        no chance

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  3. Screaming Midget
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Basically, if you had Aguero and not Nasri... you're currently knackered.

    Just 2 players have made such a huge difference to a GW.

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  4. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    38 + 2 Raylor autosub (thanks for nothing Fletcher!) + Bos + Dyer +Adebayor to come...Looking good for me to continue with my spectacularly average season 😀

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  5. Le Bluff
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Love the failure of Aguero today, especially as so many were debating to captain him over Nani/Rooney. Also pleased at Dzeko's fall from grace - half of his points total has come from 1 match yet he still has such high ownership 🙂

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    1. JapBen
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      he would have had a cracker if he'd started today, Balotelli was very wasteful

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  6. Manamongst
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Serves all you bagonwheelin, black, evil, Rooney jockin darkness! mfers right!

    Rick James!!

    Didn´t get Nani, Auero, Rooney...went with Welbeck and waiting for my capitan Ade to tear it up against my team. Still have 5 more outside of Ade ready to ball out tomorrow. Just wish I would have swapped Enrique for Ward like I wanted. I´m liking my Welbeck, ¨One week pick¨ about now...jerks...yall must have been smokin something talkin about Danny boy like that.

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Well...how isnt he a 1 week punt? It has only been 1 week.... 🙄

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      1. Manamongst
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Seriously man, I recall you and ´And Now Back To Me´ pushing that meme. YET, yu failed to explain why he IS a one week punt. Someone would have to be a serious concern to be rotated to be a one week punt. I do recall the first few weeks being the Danny and Wayne show. With the BS narrative that SAF pushed that Chich was being rested from Copa America. When in reality Danny was and IS the strong complete player. Im sorry bro, but I´m going with the more dynamic scorer all day. When clearly SAF wants to get away from the type of players from last year (see Barça ownage). There is a time and a place for a poacher and general taker, not giver type of footballer, but he (chich) is useless making nothing but diagonal runs, and general ball hawkage (see, you can get Owen for that). When was the last time you´ve seen chich free anyone for a goal, or better yet take a strike from anywhere further than 15 yards??

        This is why Welbeck will NEVER be a one week punt...btw the onus should have been on you to explain to the people why Welbeck was a one week punt...don´t think that ever happened...and I´m afraid half of the people pushing that meme fielded Danny today...surprised?

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    2. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Yes well done you have clearly won the game. Oh no wait it's an entire season and Nani, Rooney and Aguero are much better than Wellbeck. So congrats on your pick but no need to spout off like a twat.

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      1. Manamongst
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        I listened to your brand spout off all week, so...step aside and take your licks like the rest of us did during the Rooney Gravy. Don´t recall myself bitching and moaning then...

        You loaded up and came up snake eyes, so please don´t hate. Nothing to see here...calm down.

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      2. Manamongst
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Besides, you knew it was bound to happen, be happy with the assist.

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  7. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Jarvis -> Banana and Aguerro -> RVP for 4 point hit...worth it?

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  8. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Aguero out for at least two weeks. Handy international break then.

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      and a 0.3 drop in price 🙁

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        No chance.

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          Depends actually. A lot of people who aren't on a site like this will see that injury and sell him straight away.

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          1. Cheggers
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            Hes 60% to a rise though. He wont go down .1 until at least Monday night

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    2. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      what happened to him. i was listening to the utd game

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      1. MrAnderson
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        he refused to play cough cough.

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        1. MrAnderson
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          ill get me coat.

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          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            so you should

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      2. Manamongst
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Groin baby, it happens to the best. Ask steven G.

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  9. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone jumping on the Banana boat for GW8?

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    1. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Gameweek 9 for me probably, if Taarabt keeps doing nothing.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Ooohhh just saw Man City away haha.
        GW9 for me too then, hopefully he doesnt rise too much

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    2. Manamongst
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Nay.

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  10. Madridista
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    This season might be over for me.

    Just 28 points from 7 players and I have only Ade, Bosi, Sinclair & Walters to play.

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    1. Manamongst
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Ade might save ya, my guess is you´re not anywhere near the worst for this GW...

      Hot trash and hot urine for the Bottom heavy coverage whores...

      I told cats it would be Welbeck and Anderson scoring this week...

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  11. AP
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Why in the bloody hell isn't pardew playing BArfa 😡 Yeah i know they are 3rd, but he can surely do as well if not better than Leon Best!

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      How'd your team get on? Aguero © right? Ouch.

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      1. AP
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        22 points with 6 to play. Aguero should have had a flood of points, seriously annoying. Jones and Enrique did the business though.

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          Apparently you got quite lucky today, United that is, your FPL team clearly didn't.

          The wheels are falling off..... 😉

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            We were shiiiiiiiit. If Norwich were more clinical they could've snatched something.

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            1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              That said, Rooney missed a few chances, although Norwich had opened up by that stage...

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              1. AP
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 6 months ago

                Need a stable bloody team for a few weeks. Injuries and rotation means we are all over the place. Vidic and Super TC to steady the ship.

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    2. Lewis - Sky Pod
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      He's always said he wouldn't rush him back, and we're playing really well. Hard to break up a winning team.

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    3. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      did you not see that youtube video of best? how could you drop someone after that?

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    4. Manamongst
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      I discussed with Attila that Alan probably wouldn´t rock the boat given the tomfoolery of Ba last week. I really expected some residual hitman sh·t from Best. But no way in hell would I expect him to be ejected for Barfa. I´m definitely holding on to Cabyae though, Jarvis has been a deadman walking to me for a few weeks now, but for some reason he keeps avoiding my axe. He´s done though like his name was Sess.

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    5. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      AP in jumping the gun shocker

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  12. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    0.1 short of De Laet and Nani to Enrique and Silva. Bah!

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Selling Nani already? oh god...

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Believe it or not, but it was always the plan, irrespective of how he did today. I need Silva.

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          Suppose it does make sense, as long as you get him back later 😉

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  13. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Jarvis has been utter garbage since I bought him.

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    1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Ditto 🙁

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        So has O'Hara.

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    2. Torres76
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Jarvis is garbage!

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  14. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Suarez in Aguero out for me...

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    1. JapBen
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      he's playing Man U, probably worth waiting before getting him in, how about RVP?

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      1. JapBen
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        also there's a 2 week international break, Aguero may well be recovered in time for GW 8??

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      2. Manamongst
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Oh you didn´t hear, he´s a big game baller. His dive game is in sync with the big teams...they bite. I see falling right into that wheelhouse. KUYT OFF PK´s!!! SUAREZ ON!!!

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      United next game...

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      1. Manamongst
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Jonesy will be the next victim! Frosted hair will not resist an in-box challenge.

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  15. EastLeakeTerrier22
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Does anybody know how to activate your wildcard?

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Nope, nobody does

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      1. juniorbaiano
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        i do

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    2. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Why dont you wait till internationals are over?

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        He can still activate it now?

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  16. Hate that rotation
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    17 points from 6. Realistically I only have Adebayor to look forward to.

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  17. P&F
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Cant complain really, 37 points so far and 7 to play tomorrow!

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    1. Le Bluff
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Love that!

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Well done!

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    3. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Nice stuff. Not sure about why so many people were critical of the potential move, Bendtner was always going to be a good option for this week.

      Captain Hindsight.

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      1. Bigfoot is blurry!
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Not many of my calls work out like this though. Reckon he will score at Arsenal?

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    4. juniorbaiano
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      + 400

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  18. Scotch Jock
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Average so far - about 36?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Judging by my minileague rivals about 40

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Lots of CS's, quite a few have Nasri and most have Suarez (some cpt)

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Much much much lower than that. I'll guess 28 or something.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Get real. In my 20 team league only 2 people have got 28 or lower! Most have got 35-50

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        1. Cheggers
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          It'll be in the 20s.

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      2. mir
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        25 average my guess

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      I highly doubt that

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    4. Le Bluff
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      I'd hope not! I'm on 38 and all my players (except Nani (c) grr) have performed well.

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  19. mir
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    you will win my h2h ??

    rival = barton + Reo Coker (off bench) + 5 points

    or

    my team = mata + sinclair + ferdinand (QPR)

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    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Fancy you to win

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      1. mir
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        cheers.. too tight to call. i think bonus points will decide.
        Cant wait for monday morning at work sitting next to him waiting for the bonus points to come out !! haha

        It will be a long day for one of us..

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    2. juniorbaiano
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      i will win your h2h? ...nice

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  20. super zlatan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Lads quick question. I have an 18 point lead this week in my head 2 head

    Rival has rvp, Barton and bosingwa to go

    I have dyer and adebayor to go.

    Am I safe?

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Probably but if you just get 4 points a goal, an assist a cleanie and some bps could make it a bit tasty

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    2. mir
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      i think you have it in the bag... adebayor will see you home !

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      1. super zlatan
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers mir

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  21. ManofKent
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Captain injured after a few minutes, VC (Young) didn't even play. Swapped Silva for Nasri the other week.

    Obviously things will turn around tomorrow 🙂

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  22. The Spudgunner
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    27 points with Vorm,Bosingwa.Sinclair,SWP and Adebayor to play.

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  23. Dartsfan501
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Hi guys is it worth a 4 point it

    Baines to Enrique
    Lita to Agbonlahor

    Or i could just W/C my whole team 29 with 4 to play i aint happy lol

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    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Don't use wc. Those trades look good

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    2. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Would have been last week

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  24. Park the bus
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    49 with 4 to play!! 😀

    feel i have turned the corner, will have risen 6 places in mini league today. a fair bit of luck involved but will take that given my run of rotten luck for the season so far.

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    1. Torres76
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Little Luis Suarez will run United ragged at the back. Trust me. His movement is unreal...and endless

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  25. jezstatham
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    half decent week for me so far.looks like me or my son to win another weeks money in the works league of extrordinary goons which i run.lots of moaning again on monday hopefully

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  26. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Vorm Given
    Bosingwa Enrique Simpson Raylor Woodgate
    Silva Mata Nani SWP Dyer
    Suarez Aguero Adebayor
    If Aguero is goonnee, SWP > Banana, Aguero > Rooney.
    If not save the transfer?
    Could WC but feel I dont need to yet..

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Don't like SWP but I suppose he will deliver big scores occasionally. Definitely no need to WC

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  27. JapBen
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Will Moses ever do anything??

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    1. Torres76
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Two words ....and the second one is ALL....(first one begins with F!)

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  28. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Going to read the comments on here around the time Aguero got injured. Should be #funny.

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    1. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      He really is a retard

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Oh Donal!

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      2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Didn't he say that last week? And the week before that?

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        1. AP
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          DbDramaqueen is almost as funny as DBkneejerk. Both valuable assets to this forum.

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          1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
            • 16 Years
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            Dbhindsight too

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            1. Cheggers
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              Dbknowitall is another favourite of mine

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      3. jamsiep
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        haha, yeah that was my favourite post of the lot. Don't entirely blame him for giving up to be honest, although I suspect he'll be back in the very near future.

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 6 months ago

          i haven't even seen his rank. i suspect it's no way near as bad as he's making out

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          1. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 6 months ago

            He was inside the top 300k before this week I think... I'll be way off the top million after the update tonight!

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            1. applebonkers
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              • 16 Years
              14 years, 6 months ago

              f*cking drama queen if true.

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  29. Hate that rotation
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    I hope N Taylor doesnt play. I need Enriques points.

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