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1 October 2011 1815 comments
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There’s nothing like the smell of a Derby in the morning.

The Dugout Discussion now opens as Everton play host to Liverpool in our early kick-off and with a bang things shall begin, one doth imagine.

Louis Saha finally returns to the Everton team as he replaces Phil Neville in the only changes for the hosts while the short-haul visitors also make a solitary change with Dirk Kuyt coming in for Jordan Henderson. Teams in full are…

Everton XI: Howard, Hibbert, Distin, Jagielka, Baines; Coleman, Rodwell, Fellaini, Cahill, Osman; Saha

Liverpool XI: Reina; Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Enrique; Kuyt, Lucas, Adam, Downing; Carroll, Suarez

The five remaining three o’clock fixtures, while not on quite the same level locally, promise just as much interest for the Fantasy Managers looking to snap up some big scores before another international break.

Eyes will then be firmly planted on the likes Nani and Wayne Rooney (at home to Norwich), David Silva and Sergio Aguero (visiting wayward Blackburn) and a feast of players from Barry Bannan to Steven Taylor as things wrap up a little earlier for Fantasy Managers today.

Unless, of course, you have a hankering for some punishment and decide another derby (Leicester visiting Derby, in fact). The 124 Fantasy Managers in our Texaco Fantasy Championship Scout League may be just mad enough. And me, the Leicester fan.

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  1. gera.bostock
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    SAVED!!

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  2. FPL Daniel
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Kenny looks young today 😀

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  3. Gargamel
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Great entertainment this. Remember plenty of good merseyside derbies tbh. Most of them seem to include Liverpool getting dubious decisions too 🙂

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  4. Kostja
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Comeoone Everton!!!! Awesome save.

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    1. Just One More Thing
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      It was a decent save and it was a penalty...no doubt.

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Jags has been poor. Bad defending

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      2. Kostja
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Ball dont lye, ref has ruined the game.

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  5. Just One More Thing
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Carroll looks like a tub of lard walking around the field today - poor touch and no energy.

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    1. Kostja
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah, the Newcastle owner is actually a genius. Even Torres deal looks better compared to what Liverpool have gotten. But hes still young so I could be wrong.

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  6. Goodfish
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Yellow card for Enrique, 1-1 draw with Suarez scoring, Rooney to play 14 minutes with no goals and a yellow card. These are things I want, please.

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  7. Drip Doctor
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Not liking the casualness in the Sky Studio today, where are the suit jackets. Outrageous.

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    1. JWF
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      It's what happens when you let that Numpty Dowie into the studio, everyone else loses all respect for the process

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        1. JWF
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          14 years, 6 months ago

          Dowie's on SSN... drags standards down across the whole operation

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  8. BT31 - WE ARE ALL TINKERMEN…
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone tell me how liverpool are doing?
    Should win this against 10men.

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    1. The Joker
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      They look very ordinary to me but against 10 for the rest of the game?

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    2. Kostja
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      They are hammering Everton, Adam just hit the post, Kuyt penalty saved.

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    3. Smarty Pants
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Played bad before prior to the red card for Rodwell, started to push afterwards, could have scored several times at the end. Carroll is awful, should be subbed off.

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  9. SkyByBo
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    35m for carroll makes 50m for torres look like an absolute bargain!

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  10. CFCTom
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    SSN presenter just said Kuyt took the pen with his left foot. Er, no. He did not.

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  11. Fernando Torres
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Carroll is as useful as a chocolate teapot

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    1. super zlatan
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Lol

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  12. For Fuchs Sake
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    No Dzeko ðŸ™

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    1. SkyByBo
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      No way the real team news is out yet.....

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      1. Robin Van Persie's Nip…
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        There's a twitter quote going around that Dzeko won't start, but who knows.

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    2. CFCTom
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Dzeko set to start according to SSN.

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      1. Cheggers
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Its said that from Thursday you muppet

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        1. CFCTom
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          14 years, 6 months ago

          What? Am I wrong then? No. Shut up you idiot.

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          1. Cheggers
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            14 years, 6 months ago

            I wish you would shut it.
            Still posting that joke team news that isn't funny?

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            1. CFCTom
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              14 years, 6 months ago

              🙄 Does it look like it? You are very stupid.

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              1. The Red Viper
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                14 years, 6 months ago

                Ill get the wooden spoon out!

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              2. ColeHole
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                14 years, 6 months ago

                October fools all around!

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    3. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Mancini did say...

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  13. Optimus.
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    gerrard and bellamy 2nd half please

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  14. Goodfish
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone got Fifa 12 for Mac or PC? Any good?

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  15. Duckbill
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Not on set pieces or penalty's and can't link up with carroll, seems i might just drop suarez until the latter changes, possibly with gerrad.

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    1. SkyByBo
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Thats 100% down to how crap carroll is though, this team with gerrard in behind suarez instead of carroll would be a different story! Suarez won a pen, which was missed and has been in the thick of all the action so far.

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  16. Smarty Pants
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Good game so far, but I'd be furious if I were a Toffee, that was nowhere near the red card...
    And I hate Kuyt, the guy just uses every single opportunity to make mischief to me, was killing me all last season, stole an assist today, what a bastard...

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  17. Tim Cahill
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    As a Liverpool fan I am happy with our game so far but... Adams shot into the bar, the tackle on him that didnt get a card and the handball shout just outside the box... its very frustrating to watch.

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    1. CFCTom
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      What about the fact you're playing against ten men when you should be playing eleven?

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      1. Tim Cahill
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Yes, very very lucky to get a red 🙂 but we could be 2 up already very easily. Just getting nervous that Everton might scrape away with a point. Get Gerrard on I say 😀

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      2. Cheggers
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Hows that his fault you muppet?

        STFU

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        1. CFCTom
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          14 years, 6 months ago

          Did I say it was his fault you d*ck? You are getting worse and worse, you really need to start growing up you pathetic little man.

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          1. Leysh
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            14 years, 6 months ago

            Cheggars is no way near as bad as you are, most of the time you're just insufferable.

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            1. King Eric, in America
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              14 years, 6 months ago

              +1

              Not every thought that crosses a mind is a post.

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              1. King Eric, in America
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                14 years, 6 months ago

                Oh Jaysus! Now I'm defending Cheggs - look what Tom has driven me to 🙂

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                1. Leysh
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                  14 years, 6 months ago

                  Haha, I know!

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            2. CFCTom
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              14 years, 6 months ago

              Thats really interesting. I look forward to hearing more.

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              1. ColeHole
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                14 years, 6 months ago

                More.

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    2. Kostja
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah, the ref has ruined the game. There have been worse challenges after the red, and hes not calling them to make up for hes mistake. Putting liverpool players in injury risk.

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      1. Tim Cahill
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        yep the challenge on Adam was easily worse than the red, if it wasnt advantage i think there would of been a yellow

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  18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Well, the referee's spoiled the game ... again. ðŸ˜

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      You're not wrong!
      Jesus, it's one of the worst decisions I have EVER seen.

      If Atkinson refereed in the 70's there'd be no-one left on the pitch!

      Crazy.
      He should be reprimanded for what is an awful, awful decision.

      Have no allegiance to either team but I'm livid with that decision!

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    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Could've gone either way before he stepped up to the plate.

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  19. Tin of Directors
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Sure it's been discussed at the time but just seen the Rodwell red card!
    What the f*** is Atkinson on?!?!?!?!

    Barton went in even worse than that on Sunday against Villa and nothing happened.

    There's no consistency with refs and quite clearly IMVHO they have been given an instruction to dish out more cards in the past week.

    Criticising refs isn't always the way to go but from a man doing his job point of view, Atkinson has screwed up royally.

    So, which Liverpool player will go in the 2nd half to even up matters?

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    1. Somalion
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Well I'd agree completely with that, what's worse is the view he had of the challenge. It was right in front of him and he still made that call. 2nd half I'm hopeful that Adam gets sent off because he's a pie eating git.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      4 in 7 ... 😕

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    3. Optimus.
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      suarez

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      1. Kostja
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Gerrard will come in and get a red in 10 min

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  20. The Red Viper
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Steve Kean says Blackburn will attack today! Cue a city goal fest with a Balotelli hat-trick 😉

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Man city forward players loving that. Man city defenders on floor laughing

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  21. super zlatan
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    So I played FIFA 12 last night for the ps3. It's deadly. I can't get the hang of the the defending. Anyone care to give me any tips?

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      I always hold the jokey button and usually hold the sprint button at the same time. Seems to work for me.

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    2. The Red Viper
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Become one with the offside trap...

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    3. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      Personally I would state the obvious.
      Don't rush in and jockey more.
      Also, take advantage of the R1 button where a defender will cover and you can free roam with your chosen player.

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      1. super zlatan
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers lads. Looking forward to playing it later

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    4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Someone posted a good instruction guide on here earlier...can't remember where though. Sorry

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    5. CFCTom
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Yes, hold L2 and A, switching with L1 to the nearest player to the ball at every oppurtunity, hold R1 when the ball is central and when within a couple of feet of the ball go in with O to tackle. Don't just run towards the ball or they will run around or through you and your defence. Only deviate from that when they have got in your box or very close to it, then just hold L2 and always have an extra man pressuring with R1. Also, when you have them high up the pitch presure a lot and switch to 'ultra attack' and 'high pressure', switch back if they get pass you or you win it back.

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      1. CFCTom
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Sorry, *X. I have an Xbox so it was hard to keep thinking about PS buttons.

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        1. CFCTom
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          14 years, 6 months ago

          And also *past you. 🙂

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          1. super zlatan
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            14 years, 6 months ago

            Cheers cfctom

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  22. The Finnisher
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    I have noticed that since I have stopped shit stirring there have been alot of other petty jabs at others from those that don't normally do it 😆 I think I may have to go back to my old ways and have some more fun!

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      it's the best way. All in the name of banter

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      1. The Finnisher
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Just reading CFCTOM's and Cheggar's haha

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        1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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          The thing is the winding up is part of footie supporting. It's like chants at matches (the funny ones not the abusive ones). Football loses something if it's stopped. Opinions and arguments...the way forward

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          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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            But suarez is still a cheat 😉

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          2. The Finnisher
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            14 years, 6 months ago

            Agreed.
            But some people are so so sensitive on here 😆

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            1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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              Too right. Just read the reaction to my (admittedly blinkered) rant on suarez a few pages back

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  23. Horizontal
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Just watched the replay and it wasn't even near a yellow, let alone a red.

    Very, very poor decision. ðŸ™

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    1. Tin of Directors
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      I've watched it again and there is no excuse.
      Atkinson was directly in front of it!!!!!!

      If that's what's happening to football in the modern day, I don't want to watch it anymore.
      CRAZY!!!!

      And Suarez's reaction btw.
      Should have f****** been booked for simulation!
      Disgusting!

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        It's the goodison sniper...

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        1. The Red Viper
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          14 years, 6 months ago

          😀

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      2. UnderstandablyDistraught
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Rubbish !!! it was a yellow card

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      3. Smarty Pants
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        I don't think that there was any acting from Suarez, looked like it really hurt. He was just late on the ball and got kicked, can't blame him.

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      4. Franklyn
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Refs definitly need to be held accountable for decisions like that.

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          14 years, 6 months ago

          +1

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  24. The Finnisher
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Half time thought up knee-jerk;
    Suarez and SWP out, Klasnic and VDV in (both great fixtures)
    Just a note-pad to look back at and laugh at why I was thinking it 😉

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      I'm already looking at Suarez out options!

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      1. The Finnisher
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        I always do that with Suarez though, but his fixtures after next week, once Gerrard will be back and hopefully not Carroll may convince me

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  25. Damo.
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    NewCastle Krul; Simpson, Coloccini, S.Taylor, R.Taylor; Obertan, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez; Best, Ba

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    1. Damo.
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      Wolves: Hennessey, stearman, berra, johnson, ward, jarvis, henry, o'hara, hunt, doyle, fletcher.

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      top 4 side

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      1. ColeHole
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        14 years, 6 months ago

        Obertan's dream come true!

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  26. The Laughing Man
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Andy Carroll is the new Peter Crouch, good few only a few headers but cost 10 times the price lol.

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  27. exammy
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    come on team news!

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  28. super zlatan
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Any united team news?

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  29. Optimus.
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    this is getting frustrating now

    kuyt/carroll off gerard/bellamy on

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  30. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    noooooo coleman off on 59 minutes!

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    1. ColeHole
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      14 years, 6 months ago

      So Moyes is another one who plays FPL. Just my pet theory. Suralex and AVB did the same. Bastardos.

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