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A little later in the week than usual, it’s time to review the armband candidates for the weekend and launch our latest Captain Poll.

The reason for the delay was an attempt to glean more information on Harry Kane’s (12.6) recovery from a hamstring injury, sustained against Liverpool in Gameweek 9.

Owned by 28%, Spurs striker returned to training on Tuesday and starts tonight’s Champions League tie with Real Madrid. That means that he will surely be available for this weekend’s home clash with Crystal Palace, giving us the confidence to include him in our review and poll.

With a brace, an assist and maximum bonus in his last home run-out in the league – the 4-1 demolition of Jurgen Klopp’s side – Kane has emerged as the early poll favourite.

In addition, his opponent Palace have shipped a combined nine goals away to the two Manchester clubs under Roy Hodgson and have allowed 34 shots on target on the road – no side has conceded more.

Should doubts linger over Kane’s minutes or even his prospects at Wembley, alternatives include team-mate Christian Eriksen (9.7), who has claimed two assists and three goals already this season.

However, his recent deeper role over the last two Gameweeks does, perhaps, cast some doubt on his potential. In which case Dele Alli (9.3) – with three goals and an assist – could also be a consideration.

Looking at the Gameweek fixtures, Spurs assets certainly look the most enticing options, with many rival big-hitters facing testing and hard-to-call encounters.

Manchester United’s visit to Chelsea is likely to limit the confidence in striker Romelu Lukaku (11.7), who sits in 52% of squads.

During the Red Devils’ clashes with top-four rivals, manager Jose Mourinho has adopted a more defensive stance, drawing 0-0 away to Liverpool and scraping a 1-0 against Spurs last weekend. A similarly conservative approach is expected at Stamford Bridge.

The Belgian has delivered attacking returns in eight out of 10 league matches, however, he last earned a double-digit haul back in Gameweek 5. No goals in Lukaku’s last six outings in all competitions is also a factor that will doubtless deter backers.

The prospect of Mourinho adopting such ‘bus parking’ tactics also limits confidence in Chelsea’s attack, with Eden Hazard (10.6) and Alvaro Morata (10.3) the most likely candidates.

However, with a goal and seven chances created against Bournemouth in Gameweek 10, Hazard’s form may well find a way around Mourinho’s tactics – and perhaps Ander Herrera’s man-making – on this occasion.

Elsewhere, Arsenal’s trip to Manchester City makes Alexis Sanchez (11.8) and Alexandre Lacazette (10.4) major risks for the captaincy.

At home, Pep Guardiola’s defence have handed opponents just six shots on target. Meanwhile, the Gunners have only found the net in two of their five road trips and have just one victory outside of the Emirates.

With 21 goals from five matches at the Etihad, City’s attacking assets have a far stronger case for challenging Kane at the summit, particularly as Arsene Wenger’s defence have already shipped nine goals on the road.

But with the threat of rotation looming large, it may well be that many will swerve the many options on offer.

Sergio Aguero (11.8) might just be the exception – depending on his minutes in tonight’s Champions League tie. He was captained by more than 770,000 managers in Gameweek 10, but remained on the bench at The Hawthorns.

However, the Argentine could be vying for City’s all-time scoring record on Sunday should he fail to score in Napoli tonight. He leads the line in Rome.

Meanwhile Leroy Sane surely has to be fancied as a midfield option – he has double-figure returns in his last four Gameweek outings at the Etihad Stadium. However, his start tonight is his ninth in the last ten matches and with Gabriel Jesus benched, Guardiola could yet spring another surprise with his selection for Sunday’s clash.

Considering that the highest scorer among Gameweek 10’s top five captaincy choices was Lukaku – with a mere five points – managers may even look to a differential.

Despite his missed penalty against Huddersfield, Liverpool’s Mohamed Salah (9.2) continues to look a solid option. The Egyptian still returned an assist against the Terriers and collides with a West Ham defence that has conceded six in their last three home matches.

Leicester City’s Jamie Vardy (8.6) is another candidate to tempt risk-takers after netting for the first time in four outings against Everton. The England striker travels to face Stoke at the bet365 stadium having scored in three of his last four encounters with Mark Hughes’ defence.

Having delivered attacking returns in each of his last three Gameweeks, Vardy’s team-mate Riyad Mahrez (8.4) could also garner interest.

For the Potters, Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting (5.7) could be a factor, with only Kane and Lukaku firing off more shots in front of their own fans than the Cameroon winger. Owned by 6%, he was back as Hughes’ central striker in the 1-0 win at Watford on Saturday.

Talking of the Hornets, Richarlison (6.4) was a major disappointment in that defeat to Stoke. Indeed, he’s failed to register a single shot on target at Vicarage Road this season. But on his travels, he has been devastating, making him a potentially lucrative captaincy option ahead of his visit to Goodison Park.

Richarlison boasts 22 attempts in away matches – only Kane can match that – and has already scored three goals and assisted a further two.

Everton’s defence have shipped ten goals in home matches, the second worst tally behind Watford themselves.

The poll is now live in the middle column on your homepage on desktop, or via the slide-in menu on mobile and tablet under Recent Comments.

Remember, we are looking for your vote for the player you think will be most effective, regardless of whether you own them or not.

We will be back to check in on progress in the poll later ahead of the Gameweek 11 deadline when we deliver our “Captain Sensible” article offering an analysis of the results and the statistics behind the leading contenders.

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  1. stat
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Lukaku -> Kane and Alonso -> Dunk for a 4 pt hit? Leaves me with 1.6 ITB

  2. HD7
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Next GW team, right order?

    Elliot
    Walker Jones Kola
    Sterling Atsu Eriksen Tarroll
    Kaku Kane(C) Jesus

    Subs: Fabianski, Simpson, Chalobah, Mbemba

    I was gonna make Kola to Daniels, but decided to save ans have 2 FT in the Int Break, good idea?

    1. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I’d start Simpson over Kola and Carroll.

    2. Bazzy
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Pep could go a team to this morning's game and leave Jesus off the starting line-up. Be wary of that.

      1. HD7
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        I know... but wont transfer Jesus this week.

  3. CABAYE4
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Would you start Mee (sou) or Carroll (BHA)?

    1. Legomané
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Mee

    2. Nicoson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Mee

    3. Garth Marenghi
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Mee

    4. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers all.

  4. Legomané
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Pope Elliot
    ____ Jones Stones Wimmer Ward
    ____ Eriksen Salah RLC Carroll
    Kane ____ DCL

    A. Azpilicueta Sterling Kun/Lukaku
    B. Moreno Hazard Lukaku
    C. Dunk Hazard Kun

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A

  5. JJeyy
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    any news on coutinho?

    1. Nicoson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      "I don’t think in the moment that he can play.” Klopp

  6. GENERATION X
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Toby A injury. Does this make Bavies any more secure?

    1. Monkey Hanger
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Has played centre back in a back three.

    2. Puyol Pants Up
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Don't think it effects him?

      Rose/Davies - Sanchez - Vert - Aurier/Trippier

      1. Puyol Pants Up
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        If they play a back three Dier slots in

      2. GENERATION X
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        yeah but do they go to a back 4 from a 3? thats bad for bavies. as above he may go left of a 3 with rose lwb but wasnt good v w ham

    3. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Wouldn't have thought so but might give Son a better chance of starting with the resulting formation change

    4. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      cheers all i think i start him and look to move on next week

  7. GHB
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Keep hazard this week? My plan was to always ditch him after a 3 week punt for coutinho. Now cout is injured I have no one else's in mind?

    What's people's thoughts on hazard recently? The scoutcast was inconclusive!

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      He has looked very good lately. Only good Chelsea player against Rome. Morata just hasn't scored on his big chances. I'm keeping. Don't want to go without Chelsea player, their fixtures are very good after this week.

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Scoutcast inconclusive?!?! Never!!!! 😯

  8. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Damn, Otamendi, Sterling, Kun, Eriksen, Kane and Salah all in my team. Would have been on for a huge FPL score haha...

  9. Flaming Flamingo
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Foster - Elliot
    Davies - Jones - Naughton - Moreno - Mee
    Salah - Sterling - Zaha - Choupo-Moting - Carroll
    Aguero - Lukaku - Morata

    1FT, 0.6ITB

    Any ideas on the best way to raise funds to bring in Kane?

    Am thinking of downgrading Davies since he's likely to be rested, but the cheaper defensive options are looking a bit iffy to me...

    1. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Morata+Sterling->Kane+Gross/Richarlison?

      1. Flaming Flamingo
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Could do. I like Richarlison, but am a bit weary of getting rid of Sterling especially since I'd then have 3 cheap mids

        1. Old Wulfrunian
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          For sure but i imagine this is the cost of 3 heavy hitters.

          1. Flaming Flamingo
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            That's true. Thank you for the input 🙂

  10. Fernando Torres
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Is it mad to go with Eriksen, Alli, Kane?

    1. Legomané
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Nope

    2. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      From gw13

    3. Garth Marenghi
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Alli weakest of 3, but with Palace up next..

  11. Puyol Pants Up
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Who to start?

    A) Ward (sou)
    B) Moreno (whu)

    1. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ward. Southamton doesn’t score, West Ham does.

    2. Legomané
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A

    3. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      b

    4. Flaming Flamingo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Moreno imo

  12. FPL Puppy
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Wanna sell Lacazette for Kane, but need another 0.3.

    Sell;
    A)Monreal or Otamendi?
    B) Which defender to get for 5.2?

    1. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Monreal. Maybe Daniels?

      1. FPL Puppy
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        If only Daniels could drop. 😆

        Thanks _FIGU. 🙂

    2. Legomané
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Daniels, Maguire, Ward...

      1. Legomané
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Sell Monreal

      2. FPL Puppy
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Already have Simpson, not keen of doubling up. And also have Ward.

        Daniels seems to be the popular choice, thanks. 🙂

    3. Prøfeßör …
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Sell Monreal. Looking at your defence - Daniels or Duffy.

      1. FPL Puppy
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Any reason to go Duffy over Dunk, except for 0.1 cheaper? Dunk seems better stats-wise. 🙂

        1. FPL Puppy
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Lol, forget what I said, thought Duffy was Dunk and vice versa. 😆

          1. Prøfeßör …
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Hahaha, just saw this. Ignore my reply. XD

      2. FPL Puppy
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Also, love the grav.

        1. Prøfeßör …
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Cheers mate. 🙂

          Duffy has better BPS total + baseline and better goal-threat. It's close though. Can't go wrong with either, tbh.

  13. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Baaaaa Baaaaaaaaaa

    1. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Ba-Ba-Ri-Ba?

    2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      barbara ann ?

  14. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Got a bit of a headache who to start this GW:

    A) Foster or Elliott?

    B) Otamendi or Jones?

    C) Atsu or Carroll

    Squad: 1FT 3.4ITB (planning on saving FT for IB)

    Foster Elliott
    Otamendi Jones Cedric Ward Mbemba
    Eriksen Sterling Richarlison Atsu Carroll
    Kane Morata Vardy

    1. Bobby_Baggio
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A) Elliott
      B) Jones - Will be a bore draw
      C) Atsu

      1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        If you're predicting a 0-0 between Chelsea & United & I think it could well be the same, as crazy as it seems could starting Carroll over Morata be madness? Got that feeling he could well grab an assist or something, cheers for the response to the other q's!

        1. Bobby_Baggio
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          depends i think you would kick yourself more benching morata and he does something then if you bench carroll and he does something

          1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Tough one hmmm, I'll continue to debate until the deadline

  15. UnitedFan
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    How did Toby's injury look?

    1. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Hamstring.

      1. UnitedFan
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Shit. Very bad was it?

        1. how now brown cow
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Was at game so not heard owt since, but can't see him playing this gw.

          1. UnitedFan
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 9 months ago

            Right, cheers.

  16. Bobby_Baggio
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Would you take any of these out for Gomez?

    A) Monreal
    B) Lascelles
    C) Daniels

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A, but only if you're trying to free up funds.

      1. Bobby_Baggio
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Its not essential but will be handy to upgrade one of my mids

  17. SuperMane Returns
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Jesus is being shipped out as fast as Kane is rising. Kane will rise not tonight, but tomorrow for sure.

  18. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Using free hit chip this week. Anywhere I could improve?

    Elliot
    Naughton Hegazi Moreno
    Salah Alli Eriksen Silva
    Abraham Aguero Kane

    Bench is just fodder

    1. Nicoson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Why this week?
      Both Kane and Aguero not 100% to start.

      1. Scotty B
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Both 100% imo. These teams are going for league's and have 3 days break now before int break. Good time to use it when wanting to keep likes of Lukaku going forward

  19. THE Wild Rover
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Jones decision is wrecking my head, I just can't see Man U keeping a cs. I've got him on the bench atm with Naughton (BHU) Davis (BUR) or GroB the likely other bench options

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I'd start Jones in a heartbeat. Not even close.

      1. Bobby_Baggio
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        me too - bore draw incoming

      2. THE Wild Rover
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        For who? You really think they have a good chance of a cs?

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Naughton personally. Big difference between Swansea's defence home and away.

          I think Mourinho will park 2 buses and get a 0-0 with Jones in the bonus again.

    2. _figu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Disagree. Morata has been very poor. Very good chance Man U will win or nil nil. I'm starting Jones even when I have Hazard.

    3. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I can't decide whether to bring him in for Yoshida

    4. Garth Marenghi
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Maureen will park the bus. CS is possible. 0-0, 0-1, 1-1.

      1. THE Wild Rover
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Mou's bus just generally ensures a crap game but does not guarantee a cs

        1. Garth Marenghi
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          Chelsea coming off a beat-down from Roma..I think they’ll play hesitant, Conte can’t have a repeat of that. 0-0, or 1-0 to Utd. Maybe 1-1.

    5. Prøfeßör …
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Agree with those above. Start Jones for either Naughton or Davis. Probably Davis.

  20. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Start
    A Fernandez (BHA)
    B Ward (sou)

    1. Flaming Flamingo
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A

  21. stat
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Lukaku -> Kane & Alonso -> Dunk for a 4 pt hit? Leaves me with 1.6 ITB

    1. MTPockets
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Not for me.

      1. stat
        8 years, 9 months ago

        How would you bring in Kane?

        Fabianski / Elliot
        Alonso / Jones / Kolasinac / Mee / Mbemba
        Salah / Richarlison / Sterling / Silva / RLC
        Abraham / Lukaku / Aguero

        1. MTPockets
          8 years, 9 months ago

          I probably wouldn't for a hit, but if you like the moves go for it.

    2. Positive vibes
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure about Dunk, maybe any other option?

  22. how now brown cow
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Going to be some tired spurs legs.

    Rotation incoming.

    1. THE Wild Rover
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Nope, they want to win the Prem, they won't be resting players for friendly internationals

      1. how now brown cow
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        With rose aurier dembele and son on the bench I'd be surprised if at least 3 don't start.

    2. Bobby_Baggio
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      They have 4 days - thats enough time

  23. Dybala10
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Hoping my faith in Jesus pays off this weekend.

    If not, I need Lukaku to drop in price ASAP.

  24. Big P
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Bavies to start 5his weekend?

    1. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I doubt it

  25. Bazzy
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Need some help with my WC before I click the button!

    Elliott, De Gea
    Jones, Ward, Dunk
    Sane, Silva, Salah, Loftus-Cheek, Carroll
    Aguero, Kane, Abraham

    I need 2 CBs.
    ITB: 10.0

    1. Big P
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      I’d get a couple of extra defenders.

    2. Bazzy
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      2 Defenders*

    3. Jamin
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Daniels + Naughton,
      Maybe Yoshida or Dann for punts?

  26. Lee8686
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Play one this gameweek

    A) Kolasinac (mci)
    B) Mee (sou)
    C) Lascelles (BOU)

    1. Jamin
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      B

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      C ... can understand you going with B tho.

    3. Lee8686
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      To be fair I'm not expecting anyone to say A...my mind is pretty much made up it won't be Kola......swaying towards C as it stands

  27. Jamin
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Elliot
    Naughton, Mee, Jones
    Erik, Silva, Salah, Rich
    Luka, Kun, Abraham

    Foster, Carroll, Dunk, Monreal
    1ft, 1.3itb
    For a 1 week punt before WC would you:
    A) Luka > Kane
    B) Luka + Monreal > Kane + Daniels -4
    C) go without Kane
    D) something else
    Cheers!

    1. Bazzy
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Get Kane in there at all costs, you'll need him

    2. Lee8686
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      A
      Great team btw

  28. Twisted Saltergater
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    We might see Spurs line-up like this vs Palace

    Vorm
    Aurier Sanchez Vertonghen Rose
    Winks Dembele
    Son Alli Eriksen
    Kane

    1. Bobby_Baggio
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Possibly apart from Vorm

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Lloris picked up a little knock, but didn't go off.

        1. Bobby_Baggio
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          he'l be fine

    2. Garth Marenghi
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, which is why I think Son might be a good look for this week.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        It's a shame he's 8.1m. A great pick but still quite expensive.

        1. Garth Marenghi
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          If he consistently played, I’d maybe bring him in.

        2. MR Penquin
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 9 months ago

          son is 7.9

  29. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    I enjoyed the Scoutcast this week until Jonty took his face mask off.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 9 months ago

      Mark and Luke are a big miss, but Andy's hosting skills are really improving.

      1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 9 months ago

        Nah it's all good sir!

        I enjoy it whatever, I know it takes big balls to do it and I could not so I'm a big fan.

        Love 'em all!

  30. AD2110
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 9 months ago

    Elliot,
    Cedric, Ward, Naughton
    Salah, Richarlison, Eriksen, Silva
    Vardy, Morata, Kun

    Foster, Carroll, mbemba, Rosenior
    ————————————————
    Got 1 ft and 2.3 itb

    A) Morata > Kane
    B) Vardy & Eriksen > Kane + 7.8?