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4 December 2020 2478 comments
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The 2014/15 FPL champion, Simon March, asks if owning three players from the same Premier League club is advisable.


Fantasy Premier League has seen plenty of iconic duos: Carroll and Barton, Drogba and Lampard, Vardy and Mahrez, the list goes on. These are players who, while playing in the same team, both managed to score substantial points and frequently combined to score those points by assisting each other’s goals. If you had both in your FPL team at their peak, chances are you were doing well. Everyone loves a good double-up.

But what about triple-ups? They’re popular, too, but is it really a good idea to select three players from the same team? That’s the question I’ll be discussing this week.

Among the few firm rules that I rigidly observe in FPL is this: ‘Never triple up on a team who are likely to finish mid-table or below’. I learned this lesson in the 2015/16 season when my title defence was upended early on by my now-curious decision to Wildcard in three Swansea players (though, in my defence, this was a popular move at the time) just before they went from surprise early-season title candidates to winning just two games in their next 17. In my opinion, mid-to-lower table teams will rarely, if ever, sustain the form required to justify owning three (non-bench fodder) players or, indeed, they would not be mid-to-lower table teams.

While I’m unlikely to be talked out of this position personally, the question of whether tripling-up on any team is a good idea is more controversial.

On one hand, you have the philosophy that, if a team tends to score more goals than anybody else, and/or keeps more clean sheets, as per Liverpool or Manchester City in the past few seasons, it’s a good idea to have as many players from that team as possible. There is no doubt that, at times, this is a good move and, those who do time it correctly will no doubt profit as a result. Where such a team has a Double Gameweek, there’s even more reason to believe in the potential of a triple-up.

There are, however, a few problems associated with tripling up with players from the top teams. Firstly, it tends to be expensive. Man City may, for example, score more goals than most teams this season and they might also keep more clean sheets, but to triple up on them could cost 25-30%+ of your overall budget. At that point, the question is no longer just: ‘Will they score me enough points?’ It becomes: ‘Will the rest of my team be good enough to compensate if they don’t?’ There’s usually a good chance that a savvy FPL manager can find similar returns for less if they shop around.

The big exception to all of this is when a team who were expected to be mid-to-lower table end up performing really well throughout the whole season. The most obvious example of this phenomenon is 2015/16 title-winners Leicester from which you could purchase three of the highest-scoring players in the game that season for roughly the price of a McDonald’s Happy Meal. Of course, such teams are most notable by their rarity.

Why else could tripling up be ill-advised? One suggestion lies in the mechanics of how scoring occurs in football generally. A player scoring is always the product of their own ability to score, their team’s ability to provide them with opportunities to score and their opposition’s ability (or inability) to stop them from scoring. However, there is also a temporal aspect to this equation. A match only has 90 minutes (or sometimes 100 minutes if you’re a certain Manchester-based club…) and, thus, your triple-ups are sharing that time between them. They cannot all score points at once even if two combine for a goal and, therefore, their ability to score is naturally limited. This might not be a problem if the team they play for scores loads of goals every match, but history tells us that this is not sustainable over time, even for the very best teams. Players and teams go in and out of form, fixtures become more difficult and, when you triple up, all three of your players are affected by these same conditions.

This issue may be less true of defenders as clean sheet points are attributed equally across a defensive line. However, as a result of this, their point-scoring potential is interdependent, one goal conceded affects them all. Over a long enough period of time, this might not matter in terms of points scored (i.e. Liverpool defenders may keep the most clean sheets in total over a season) but, again, this raises the question of value for money and, particularly, whether the funds tied up in expensive defenders could benefit your team more if invested elsewhere, or by being more liquid.

How Liverpool's defensive assets compare after their FPL price changes

Finally, while some believe that having multiple players from a single team means they are likely to get some points whatever happens, the opposite could actually be true. Because they share many of the same conditions, teammates may be more prone to rotation at the same time (e.g. ahead of a big Champions League match), illness (think Spurs and ‘Lasagna-Gate’), expected or unexpected match cancellations (…sigh), tough fixtures or even just teams losing form, as even the best ones will sometimes do. Tripling up will always compound these kinds of risks.

In conclusion, while I am not personally a big fan of tripling up on players from a single team, I can see that there are instances when it can pay off, if timed correctly. There are also exceptional circumstances where it can be a practically essential, no-brainer, value move (e.g. Leicester 15/16) to have three players from the same team. Tripling up in a Double Gameweek or Blank Gameweek may also be well worthwhile and, finally, some of the limitations that apply to attacking players in a triple-up may not apply as much to defenders, making a defensive double or triple-up arguably more of a viable move. 

However, by virtue of the players all sharing the same conditions and constraints on scoring and the typically high cost of tripling up on the best teams, the practice of tripling up in FPL will almost always be a higher-risk strategy that, as a result, is less likely to pay off over time than a broader and more flexible strategy.

In my eyes triple-ups are a lot like buying an expensive goalkeeper; it makes sense at the time, they’ll probably score you some points, but give it a few weeks and you’ll always start to think whether you could be doing something better with the money.


Simon is a former FPL world champion, claiming the coveted price in 2014/15. But there is more to this man than one season of good fortune. Since 2009, Simon has finished in the top 7k four times, only ending up outside the world’s top 60k once in an 11-campaign career.

  1. Shark Team
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    What is more likely to happen in the next 2 gws:

    Chelsea to score 6gls total next 2gws
    or
    Everton to score 3gls total next 2 gws

    In other words DCL or Ziyech scores more pts next 2?

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Dcl

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Ziyech. Digne a massive loss for Everton both ends of the pitch.

  2. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Kane to Jesus?

    No city against FUL and getting KDB would require A hit

    Martinez
    Zouma, Taylor, Lamptey
    Salah (c), Bruno, Bissouma, Zaha
    Vardy (VC), Kane, DCL

    Steer, Balbuena, Mitchell, Grealish

    0.3 in the bank
    1 FT

    1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Surely Jesus be rotated with Kun from next week on

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        You’re right

      2. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Surely Kun can’t be trusted

    2. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I would take a hit for Kdb but tough selling Salah or Bruno
      Kind of the same boat as I sold Salah for Bruno and own Kdb so not sure how to get Salah back

      Tempted by Kane to Jesus myself but not sure I’d want him next week vs United

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Could do Kane/Zaha or Grealish to Bamford/KDB

        1. FPL_Crisis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 4 months ago

          Keep Grealish you probably have money tied and he has dgw coming up

          1. RamaJama
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Cheers!

    3. Vazza
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I’m contemplating whether I should bring in KDB for free let alone for a hit.

      Your team is good just run with it

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers!

  3. Babit1967
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Can’t believe Barton and Carroll were named on the same list as Drogba and Lampard and Vardy and mahrez.

  4. Vazza
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Should I do Bruno to KDB for free?

    And do KDB to Salah next week?

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      No

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Think Bruno is worth keeping

        1. Vazza
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks mate. I agree. Just needed to hear it from someone else.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            5 years, 4 months ago

            Have dropped Bruno temporarily while they navigate the Champions League.

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, I did. Am going to have Salah, KdB and Kane as my big hitters.

  5. Wirtzle Gummidge
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Anything worth a -4 here?

    Mendy
    Chillwell // Robertson // Cancelo*
    Torres // Jota // KDB // Rashford* // Bruno
    DCL // Adams

    4.0 // Brewster // Lewis // Dunne

    Currently thinking to ride it out and do Rashford and Cancelo to Salah and Coufal next week.

    1. dezille
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Cancelo is very unlikely to start (it seems), so may as well do the downgrade now to Coufel (or whoever) and benefit from whatever points he gets (as you don't have any alternative bench cover)

  6. Nando7
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Free hit this week...any must haves ?

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Kdb

    2. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      The sun dodging Kevin bloke

    3. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Mahrez

    4. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Mahrez

  7. as33
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Watkins> Abraham for free?

    1. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

    2. DMP
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      With Giroud knocking at the door, and Pulisic either?

  8. Pompel
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Lineup predictions taking its sweet effing time as usual...
    Any SHU fans out there know whether Burke is likely to retain his starting spot from last weekend?

    1. Vazza
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      It’s difficult to predict as Burke, McBurnie, Brewster, Sharpe, McGoldrick etc etc etc are all competing to start but none of them are able to score a single goal these days. Sorry, not much help.

      1. Pompel
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Hard to call, yes. Deliberating whether to move him on, but would be for a hit

        1. Vazza
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 4 months ago

          Maybe an upgrade to Soucek could work. Good luck

  9. TomSaints
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Logic is telling me to bank transfer and play without keeper.

    Benefit is it allows easy pivot to Salah or away from vardy next week at no cost. Martinez isn’t great next week v wolves but 3 nice fixtures 13-15 then double week round the corner.

    But playing without a keeper feels wrong!

    1. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      The keeper u bring in might get only 1 or 2 points

      1. TomSaints
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly and I value a transfer at 4 points.

        So anyone I bring in needs to get 4 points and be ok for next several fixtures. But it’ll mean I have to take a hit to get Salah..

        1. dezille
          • 8 Years
          5 years, 4 months ago

          You can value this transfer at 2 points though, providing the alternative keeper gets just appearance points

    2. Bagheri Arce
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      What about a second keeper?

      I'm a set and forget man but tempted by McCarthy / Johnstone as extra keeper for the next two

      1. TomSaints
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Keeper rotation leads to points on bench. I never get it right haha

  10. Mikei
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Wilson or Bamford for this week?
    Thanks.

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Wilson has no game

      1. Mikei
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Yay, sorry. So Bamford. Or another striker for 7.1?

    2. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Hmm difficult one - but I think I'd go with the one who's playing

  11. berka85
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    FH team, any comments?!

    McCarthy - Forster
    James - Chillwell - Justin (Neco, Phillips)
    KDB (c) - Mahrez - Fernandez - Jota (Reed)
    DCL - Vardy - Jesus

    1. topmandan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Pretty much the team I’d choose other than I’d pick Zaha over DCL and play 3-5-2

      1. berka85
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Interesting... hmm?

  12. gomez123
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Should I keep Sterling for one more week Y/N

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Y

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      May as well give him Fulham, expensive though if he doesn’t

      1. gomez123
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks

    3. Pompel
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Would move him on to KDB or Mahrez

  13. Nespinha
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    What would you do to get Salah in?
    A) Robbo to 5.5 defender
    B) DCL to Bamford

    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      A

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      B

  14. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Any stopper to do Son > KDB [C] tonight? Will be busy Sat morning and could miss out deadline ...

    1. manu4life99
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I did it

  15. Erez Avni
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    play one:

    A. KWP
    B. Lookman

    1. BremerHB
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      KWP

  16. Vazza
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Who to captain this week

    A. Vardy
    B. Fernandes

  17. Rash
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Had a great week last week with 73 points but team not looking so great this week with no man City

    Martinez*
    Lamptey chilwell PVA
    Salah bruno bowen jota
    Kane DCL brewster

    4.0 grealish mitchel targett

    2.8itb 1ft

  18. Dele
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Why’s everyone so determined that Son will score well this weekend? Spurs hardly convincing at the moment, Jose will set up negatively.

    1. Rosey Palmer
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      I think it is the fact that Son will be going against that soft right side of the Arsenal defense.

    2. Rash
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      And so will arteta..

  19. Vazza
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Think this gameweek is all about damage limitation

  20. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    If You have
    Gauita
    Lamptey Chilwell Reguilón
    Who to get instead of Semedo
    And play 4-3-3
    A- Justin
    B - James but have Chiwell
    C- PVA

  21. Pacer.
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    As an aside to this article and risks re tripling up and Covid, and what we've seen with Villa

    Blanked players who get benched, come back for doubles. Anyone who doesn't own them has to use valuable FTs or chips if they want to capitalise on future doubles. Anyone who gets rid and wants them back uses two sets of transfers, and may lose value.

    Situations like this can easily work out to the advantage of either sides of the keep/sell argument. One thing experience has taught me is that because we focus on FPL scoring having a resolution of one gameweek, FPL managers get fixated on the short term. But FPL really pans out according short term transfers AND mid and long term strategy and planning.

    In short, big blanks might this caused by tripling might be a problem, but it's absolutely not a given

  22. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Mahrez is gonna haul again gentlemen

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      A goal at most I’d say

      1. KaBoZ: Kids,don't Drin…
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 4 months ago

        why ?

  23. Jdpz
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Sell
    a) Wilson
    b) Grealish

    1. KaBoZ: Kids,don't Drin…
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      both have favorable fixtures in the next 4 but I'd sell grealish because Wilson has WBA NEXT !! Unless of course the WBA match gets postponed too

  24. KaBoZ: Kids,don't Drin…
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    SO yea throughout the years Mahrez has always failed me (including this year I took a punt on him that lasted 1 or 2 gws), but he looked so lively against burnley, and he got rested against Porto, Fulham will prolly take a beating, and jesus/sterling haven't been in top form, so I think Mahrez is a prime pick to score, he also has WBA in gw13.
    My question is, why do bookies rate his odds low this gw, and very few scouts are actually taking the chance to get him while the masses are buying him?
    You see what I'm trying to do here? I'm trying to remain positive he's worth the hit for Grealish

  25. DagheMunegu
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    I'm lost. Please save me
    1ft 0.1 Itb

    Martinez*
    Robbo Zouma Lamptey
    KDB Son Bruno Grealish*
    Kane DCL Watkins*

    Button Nkounkou Riedewald Branthwaite

    1. Pacer.
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      This isn't really a problem. You have three fine players out. Martinez is a typical set and forget for the season. Grealish looks like he could be also a set and forget. The only one that's dodgy at all is Watkins, and that's just because he's unproven. So either use your FT maybe on Watkins, or more sensibly in my eyes use it this week as part of a -4 to do something like drop robbo to someone like chilwell and a decent fourth defender that you can field this week

    2. Pacer.
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Basically carrying round that dead bench will sting you week in week out over Christmas and perhaps all season. Benching three villa players and being short a couple of players this week won't really hurt you because their game in hand will come in several weeks.

      Prioritise sorting the bench, that will also help you field an additional player this week

  26. dbeck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Best to bank my transfer? So I can move sterling to mo next week

    McCarthy
    Dias chilwell coufal
    Sterling KDB Soucek ziyech
    Vardy bamford DCL

    Forster Grealish Targett Lewis

  27. Jdpz
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Best mid under 9.2m? Zaha? Jota?

  28. OutofShorts
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on Grealish to Mahrez for a couple of weeks with only Cancelo City coverage this week?
    Likely to spend an extra .2 getting him back for Burnley GW13...

  29. manu4life99
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Good to go?

    Johnstone
    Robbo* Chilwell Dias Lamptey
    KDB(C) Bruno(vc) Jota
    Kane* DCL Bamford

    martinez* soucek mitchell* grealish*

  30. gomez123
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 4 months ago

    Sterling captain anyone??

    1. as33
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 4 months ago

      Thinking him or Bruno 🙂