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King v Dennis: Who is Watford’s best budget FPL forward?

A lot of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers are in the hunt for a budget forward at the moment, especially after Ivan Toney (£6.7m) tested positive for COVID-19 and now looks likely to miss the games against Watford and Manchester United.

Claudio Ranieri was appointed as Watford manager on October 4 (prior to Gameweek 8) and since his appointment, Watford are impressively fourth on the expected goals (xG) table behind Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea. Given that they have two strikers currently priced under £6.0m, they emerge as the prime candidates for managers looking to shop in this price bracket.

This is also aided by the fact that they have very good fixtures: the Hornets sit on top of the Season Ticker from now until Gameweek 23.

The prime two candidates emerging from this Watford team as options are Emmanuel Dennis (£5.6m) and Josh King (£5.7m). The debate in terms of which Hornets striker to get is quite the talking point in the FPL community at the moment. With this article, I am to take a closer look at both options and will be drawing on data and graphics from the Premium Members Area to do so.

Since Ranieri took over the club, Dennis is outperforming King for actual FPL returns. Dennis has four goals and four assists under Ranieri in 510 minutes of game-time, while King has five goals and zero assists in 630 minutes.

King occupies the central striker spot and does a lot of work off the ball, which is something Ranieri admires. Since Gameweek 9, he has played every minute possible under his new manager. Dennis primarily occupies the right-wing spot and has an inside forward role similar to the one that a certain Mohamed Salah (£13.1m) plays for Liverpool. While we’re making a comparison to Liverpool, it is worth noting that King is no ‘false nine’. While he does a lot of work off the ball, in possession he very much occupies the central spaces around the six-yard box.

Above: Touch heatmaps of Joshua King (left) and Emmanuel Dennis (right)

Let us look compare their underlying goalscoring stats.

Above: Goal threat stats of Joshua King (left) and Emmanuel Dennis (right)

The underlying numbers tell us a clear story. King clearly has the better goal-scoring stats as he bests Dennis for xG, goal attempts, shots in the box and big chances. The one area where Dennis does better than King is shot accuracy and goal conversion.

To put things into perspective, Dennis has an expected goal involvement (xGI) delta of +5.68 since Gameweek 8, which does indicate a considerable amount of overperformance. The only player in the league with a greater overperformance in this period is Salah (+6.23). King, on the other hand, has a negative delta of -0.36, which indicates that his returns do seem somewhat sustainable. The Norwegian’s underlying numbers relative to other Premier League players are also very encouraging. Since Gameweek 8, this is King’s rank amongst all outfielders for the given statistics:

  • xG: 3rd
  • Shots: 5th
  • Shots in the box: 4th
  • Big chances: 1st
  • xGI: 3rd

It is worth noting that these ranks for King are not amongst all forwards but rather amongst all outfielders, which is even more encouraging. King, in the last five seasons, has averaged between a delta +1 to -1, indicating that he should keep performing at the given rate. I couldn’t locate previous xG over/under-performance data to dictate how sustainable Dennis’s form looks but if anyone is showcasing Salah levels of overperformance, their returns do need to be taken with a pinch of salt. His output is not that of a ‘normal man’ and Ranieri seems to agree.

“I’m not surprised because he [Dennis] is a very good player. He scored twice at the Bernabeu! Anyone who scores two at the Bernabeu is not a normal man. He has speed, intelligence, he is generous, and I like how he plays. He has to improve because he is young, but I have a very good relationship with him, and all of my players.” – Ranieri on Dennis

It is worth noting that he costs under £6.0m and even if he might revert to the mean a little, he still can offer good value at his price. My problem with assessing Dennis is that there is no basis to judge how good a player he is. So to take matters further, I decided to watch the highlights for the last five Watford games back to back and these are a few of my observations:

  • Dennis and King both are a part of the counter-attack. King is very much central when countering and continues to find space in the centre of the box while on the counter. This is the same with Dennis, as well, who likes to beat his man on the wing during a counter and take a shot.
  • In possession, King’s role is to stick in and around the centre of the box and he does a good job of occupying one or two defenders, which sometimes leaves open space for Dennis. Watford do like to cross the ball from the wings a fair bit and King has come close to heading the ball in on a few occasions.
  • My conclusion is that when Watford do have possession and it isn’t a counter-attack, King looks more threatening in attack. On the break, Dennis seems to have more space due to King making darting runs and occupying the centre-backs.

The xG shot map comparison below also looks very encouraging for King and makes me think his returns look more sustainable.

Above: xG shotmaps of Joshua King (left) and Emmanuel Dennis (right)

When it comes to creativity, both are pretty much on a par, creating 1.4 chances per game, but Dennis has supplied 0.6 big chances per match under Ranieri compared to King’s 0.1. Another fact to note here is that with Ismaila Sarr (£5.8m) injured, King took and converted Watford’s last spot-kick against Leicester City and I expect him to still be on penalty-taking duties going forward, which is another feather in his cap.

One caveat about King is that approximately 60% of his xG since Gameweek 8 was accumulated against Everton (2.1) and Manchester United (1.0), however.

It is now time to talk about the AFCON. As things stand, the Nigeria squad has not been officially announced, although Dennis is reportedly on a provisional 40-man list. Dennis recently told national media that if selected, he would honour the call-up. If he is selected and goes to play, he will definitely miss Gameweek 22 (Newcastle (a)) and 23 (Norwich (h) which are very good-looking games on paper for Watford. He would very likely miss even more Gameweeks depending on when he is expected to join the Nigeria squad and his national team’s progress in the tournament.

CONCLUSION

Given the underlying numbers, the penalty factors and the potential for Dennis to miss out on upcoming Gameweeks, I currently prefer King as the option between the two and he looks a very good enabler given Watford’s great run of fixtures.

377 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Mozumbus
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Who will score more this GW:
    A. Dias Son Watkins (433)
    B. Gallagher Bowen Ronaldo (343)

    1. dshv
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. The White Pele
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      B by distance.

    3. RoryzonderR
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, easy B

  2. hueycho
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    KING by country mile! He s got pen, only 0.3m more

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Both now the same price at 5.7m

      1. hueycho
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Ahhh i was still living in last week!

        1. My heart goes Salalalalah
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Compare the scores, and eye test. Dennis

  3. The White Pele
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Start :
    A) White
    B) Mbeumo

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      B

  4. dshv
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Ramsdale
    Taa James Cancelo
    Salah Foden Jota ESR Gallagher
    Antonio Ronaldo

    Foster - reguilon - livra - davis

    Anything worth a hit??

    1. Mozumbus
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      No

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      no

  5. rozzo
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    I always look at points per match when selecting players. Obviously taking into account a decent sample size.

    Of course past points aren't an indicator of future points but it has always served me quite well.

    Dennis has a PPM of 5.4 whilst King has a PPM of 4.2.

    In fact, Dennis has a better PPM than Ronaldo, Kane, Mane, Sterling, Lukaku etc. Only Calvert Lewin has him beat from a sample size of three games from all of the strikers.

    So for this fact alone, he is essential for me. I have King as well as bench cover. Why, if you're going to captain Salah every week would you have a premium striker, who so far, has been getting less points per match, than a striker who is half his price?

    Again, past points are not an indicator for future points but will he finish the season with a higher PPM than the likes of Ronaldo and Lukaku?

    I reckon he can.

    1. Dammit_182
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      If your buying now I think the cost difference is do small just get the penalty taker who is not off to AFCON

    2. Bggz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      The main question is how much is he over performing and having a ppm over the superstars suggests a lot.

      1. rozzo
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        I know, but Ronaldo for example is not even doing that bad. How well do people expect him to do at 36 playing for a team in a bit of a mess? He is doing decent enough.

        Kane and Lukaku can sure improve their figures but at the moment the points have been with Dennis, who imo is not suddenly going to blank for the next 5 weeks

        1. JONALDINHO
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          It’s a very small sample size to be using ppg. Maybe over a full season or 2 it can be useful but definitely not 5 or 6 games. Dennis is over performing by a lot and is extremely extremely unlikely to continue scoring as he is

          1. Sgt Frank Drebin
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            I second that. There is no way Dennis can sustain higher ppg over a whole season than Ronaldo or Lukaku (unless they get injured etc.).

            1. Jarnathan
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 4 months ago

              Why? Maybe he's the next Ronaldo. Vardy also looks like he's overperfornimg

  6. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 4 months ago

    Foden setback makes Bernado essential.

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Essential is a strong word but certainly leaning towards Bernado over Foden if prioritising a City midfielder this weekend

      1. BobB
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Look at their fixtures - a City attacking asset is pretty essential, and only Bernado is certain to get enough mins

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      What set back?

      1. BobB
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        He went off injured early last night.

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks.

          1. jackx13
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Pep said it's just a precaution. I'd expect him to be back for the weekend.

          2. Dammit_182
            • 3 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            ‘Precaution’ was the key word here. 45 mins sub during a dead rubber game. Wait for pressers and the ‘he has trained and is in contention’ drivel from pep to help with your decision….

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 4 months ago

              Haha. Thanks

    3. TopBinFc
        2 years, 4 months ago

        After this GW, cant see city scoring bagful of goals v Wolves

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Me neither, but on their day everything is possible. We have seen 100% conversation rate from Bernardo, so should he get 4 shots instead of 2, everything is possible 😉

      • Bggz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        It’s Bernardo this week huh?

    4. Mozumbus
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 4 months ago

      Best replacement for Raphina under 6.8 not Bowen/Gallagher?
      Thanks

      1. Bggz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Mount

        1. TopBinFc
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Under 6.8? Decoure

          • Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Oh dear

        2. Tonyawesome69
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Under 6.8m, I have Saka, ESR, McGinn and Gray on my watchlist. Probably lean towards an Arsenal midfielder short term, Gray/McGinn long term

        3. JBG
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Fornals, Mcginn, Ødegaard, ESR(if injury free), Maddison, Barnes or Gray.

          Not the best picks but that's about it.

        4. Dammit_182
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Gray would be my cheap non - Bowen choice right now. Fits the king/Dennis role as a midfielder slot.

        5. jackx13
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Maddison this week then Gray.

      2. Qaiss
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Is it true that AFCON has been brought forward by a week and will start on January 3rd now?

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Thats what I keep seeing here. GW19 is the last game they can play

        2. Dammit_182
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          If this is true that’s massive. Any source?

      3. Bggz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Will CR7 be good value for money over the next 5 gw?

        1. JBG
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          I brought him in for Kane, so hopefully yes.

          1. Bggz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            He’s very expensive. What does good value look like for you?

            1. JBG
              • 5 Years
              2 years, 4 months ago

              If he has at least 10 attacking returns the next 12 GWs, that's good value for his price. IMO.

        2. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          No

        3. Qaiss
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          If you’ll captain him because you believe he will score lots of goals, yeah.

          If you won’t captain at all, what is the point?

        4. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Will be tough to justify his price tag unless captaincy is involved but fixtures are there, can score comparatively more points.

        5. Will Kane
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          I'm really not sure. But I don't want Kane anymore so the question is to I go Ronaldo or downgrade and redistribute the funds? I only have 1FT and see no need for a hit so if I downgrade I won't be able to do anything with that money until next week anyway. My view is to have a 2 week punt on Ronaldo in case he does haul in the next two very appealing fixtures but if he blanks or doesn't look like producing big returns then I can go for plan B at that point.

      4. fijuhmon
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Ramsdale (Foster)
        TAA, Cancelo, Reece, White (Livra)
        Salah, Son, Jota, Raphinha (Brownhill)
        Watkins, King (Toney)

        2FT

        A) Son & Toney to Bilva & Ronaldo
        B) Son & Brownhill to Bilva & Gundo

        1. Mozumbus
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Ronaldo

      5. The-Red-1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        I really want to get Watkins in for Toney, and the way I'll probably do it is to drop Regulion.

        Have nothing itb

        Ramsdale Foster
        TAA Cancelo James Regulion Livramento
        Salah Son Bilva Jota Bowen
        Antonio King Toney

        Regulion to Manquillo or Williams?
        Or just ignore Watkins and go Toney to Benteke?

        1. Bggz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Save

        2. jackx13
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Toney to Benteke if Son fit.

      6. boc610
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        kalvin phillips out long term is a disaster for leeds (and not great for Raph either) one of the only players who can win the ball back, they will have less possession now and could be completely overrun

        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Bamford getting injured celebrating his goal after just getting back from injury is frankly ridiculous

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Haha. What?

        2. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah, its the worst time for my fpl team to happen as well. Raph, Lamptey, Sanchez, Kane, Toney, and Foden and only 1 ft

      7. CRAZY TRAIN
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Having resisted the temptation to do Vardy > Ronaldo last night I am very hoping that Brendan starts Daka tonight. If he does then I will likely roll with Vardy for one more week.

        1. boc610
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          im not sure what the fuss is over vardy's benching, it had to be done, that was the game brendan chose, i cant see it happening again now for a while. Ronny is in the same boat, an ageing player whose minutes need to be managed. he is not going to start every game over christmas, Raginck wont risk injuring him long term

          1. CRAZY TRAIN
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            From a Villa point of view I was very happy he was benched on Sunday (although I don't like to dis Daka who looked v good tbf).

        2. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          There’s no chance Daka starts tonight.

      8. Club-De-Belon
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Would you care to take a look at this WC? https://i.imgur.com/5QojrX5.png (fixture plan)
        Sold ESR (5.3 > 6.1 good run mate), Son (since GW1), Reguilon (since GW1), Emerson (since pre-BUR game), Gelhardt, Schmeichel (since GW1, damn), Begovic. 0.1 ITB

        1. Club-De-Belon
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          1. EVE looks like a trap, I know. But fixture run is there... if it does not work, FTs are always a solution.

          2. MCI - both Gundo and B. Silva to see who actually performs better. Will probably sell the other one for Jota.

          3. No CHE defenders - I want value in MID + FWD from now on, will get back to them later in season.

        2. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Digne is probably out of favor now. Young might not play if Targett gets fit.

          Pedro is unlikely to get much gametime, Broja?

          1. Club-De-Belon
            • 2 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            I will check Digne + Young but I think Joao should be pretty safe?

      9. hogree
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        A. Raphinha to Bowen
        B. Kane to Ronaldo, Raphinha to Gallagher (-4)

        1. JBG
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          I did B, but with Bowen.

        2. jackx13
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          A unless Kane sick - then B but maybe consider Gray instead of Gallagher. Not too great this week but in a couple he'll be gold.

          1. Tonyawesome69
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            this

      10. Jässi
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Toney on orange and ESR on yellow, and already used my FT...

        A) Toney to Dennis (already got King) -4
        B) Toney to Dennis and ESR to Bowen -8
        C) Toney to Pukki -4

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          That’s deserved.

        2. Tonyawesome69
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          if you have a strong bench then neither

      11. cmorris22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Got a conundrum ! Who should I prioritise for this weeks transfer ?
        Swap rudiger for James this week of Raphinia for Bilva. Can't do both as don't want to take the hit.

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Raph to Bilva

        2. Tonyawesome69
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Bernardo

      12. M_Rega96
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Sanchez
        TAA Cancelo James
        Raph ESR* Salah Jota
        Toney* King Kane
        Foster* Royal* Williams Allan

        Guess that’ll need a hit? Thinking of benching Toney, Emerson Royal > Guehi, Raph > Gundo.
        Leaves me money for Toney>Watkins and Kane>CR7 in the future.
        Thoughts?

      13. El Presidente
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Hi guys, is there any news on spurs and their covid conundrum?

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          No

          1. El Presidente
            • 4 Years
            2 years, 4 months ago

            Thanks mate

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              2 years, 4 months ago

              Who are you looking to potentially sell?

      14. dshv
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Foden to bernardo (-4) ???

        1. Tonyawesome69
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          no

      15. akhilrajau
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Which combination is best in WC team?
        A. Vardy, King, Benteke, Mount (343)
        B. Vardy, King, Mount, Bowen(352)
        C. Lukaku, King, Mount, Gray/Odegaard(352)
        D. Ronaldo, Dennis, Bowen, Gray/Odegaard(352)

        1. The Mentaculus
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 2 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          B of those, but you know you dont have to pick a premium forward

      16. n-doggg
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        A. Silva
        B. Watkins

        I have Foden

        1. Bavarian
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          Foden > Silva

      17. zinaks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        on WC
        Guaita
        Alonso-Taa-cancelo

        Salah-Jota-Bilva-Bowen

        Antonio-King-Ronaldo
        ----------------------------------
        Livra-Bissouma-5.1M
        1-For final Defender? dallot/white/dier/shaw/lamptey
        2-should i upgrade Livra? got him at 4.0

      18. The Polymath
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        After Brighton, Spurs have Leicester and Everton. Not too may FPL assets in these teams.

      19. Big Mac 24
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        I’ve had Dennis for a good few weeks, now took King on too and will play them both for the next 6 weeeks or until their scores dry up.

        In the relatively tough fixtures they’ve just had, they scored a total of 83 pts together. 7 matches, 12 pts per match combined, 6 pts each and Dennis missed out one match completely while only playing 23 mins in another. . Opponents: eve SOT ars MANU lei CHE MCY.

        Discuss!

      20. Openboxman
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Top of my ML.

        Is this -12 worth it.

        Alsonso > Dallot
        Son > Rashford
        Raphiniha > Bernado
        Toney > Watkins

        1. terrypaulpearce
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 4 months ago

          The most relevant info to answer that question is all the info not in your post, ie the rest of your team. If the rest of your team are playing, then probably no: maybe do a -4, tops. If you have other problems, maybe.

      21. Hosshotpot
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Is it worth it to take a hit for:
        Ronaldo vs Norwich (A) In
        Vardy vs Newcastle (H) Out

      22. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 4 months ago

        Jota orange flag…is he likely to start?