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Having already provided the lowdown on Steve Cooper, our series on the newly-promoted Premier League sides continues with this look at Nottingham Forest’s defence.

In this article, we will assess the Championship play-off winners’ overall clean sheet chances and then look at some of the key Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players in their backline.

Our third and final piece will discuss Forest’s midfielders and forwards.

To help us with our research, we spoke to Fantasy Football Scout’s founding father and Forest supporter, Mark Sutherns, to provide a fan’s view.

You can find everything you need to know about fellow new boys Fulham and Bournemouth here.

The stats in this piece are taken from FotMob and WhoScored.


WHAT IS FOREST’S CLEAN SHEET POTENTIAL?

Nottingham Forest's defence assessed ahead of FPL return in 2022/23

Forest had the second-best defensive record in the Championship last season, conceding 40 goals in 46 matches, only trailing Bournemouth (39).

They kept 17 clean sheets, a reasonable return but some way short of the Cherries’ league-leading total of 21.

PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total462311127340+338017
Home2313464322+21439
Away2310763018+12378

However, it’s worth noting that at the time of Cooper’s appointment in September, Forest had made their worst start to a season for 108 years, claiming only a single point from their first seven Championship games under Chris Hughton, a period that saw them concede 12 goals.

When he was first appointed, Cooper was flexible in his approach, switching from a back four and a central-defensive trio. But this year (see below), it has largely been a back three all the way, which has seen Forest tighten up significantly and concede only five goals at the City Ground in 2022.

PWDLFAGDPTSCS
Total2114434112+294611
Home10910295+24286
Away11533127+5185

“Once Cooper arrived and certainly in 2022, Forest were the best defensive side in the Championship. The trio of Worrall, McKenna and Steve Cook earned the collective nickname of “The Wall” to emphasise just how effective they were at keeping teams at bay. At the City Ground in particular, Forest conceded just five goals in 2022 and were known for their ability to limit teams to half chances.” – Mark Sutherns

The underlying stats don’t really do Forest justice, given that they are skewed due to their poor start under Hughton, but we’ll include them below for reference.

DEFENSIVE STATS 2021/22
TotalRank v other Championship clubs
Goals conceded402nd
Clean sheets176th=
Shots conceded per game10.98th=
xGC56.38th=

THE PLAYERS

APPS, GOALS AND ASSISTS (INC PLAY-OFFS)

 

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  1. jcr1997
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 13 days ago

    Thoughts:

    Mendy
    Chilwell / Robertson / Dias / White
    Son / KDB / Diaz
    Jesus / Toney / Watkins

    Caballero / Patterson / Colback / Andreas

    1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Yuck

      1. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        You could just say "not template"

        Wait for him to post a more template team and reply with "too template"

        1. @persecuted_by_mods
          4 years, 13 days ago

          Does beg the question though, why even do RMTs they're all pretty much exactly the same and if you go different people will just herd you to the template anyway

          1. Wirtzle Gummidge
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 13 days ago

            If you're inclined to follow the herd then most definatley

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      don't like 3 strikers personally, but you've at least picked 3 not-terrible ones - solid

    3. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      I rather like this, Son over Kane, KDB over Haaland could be great and if they outscore their teammates then you'll be laughing.

    4. Brimble82
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      I actually don't hate that.
      No Trent, Mo or Erling could backfire, but equally, it's a really strong XI and Kev could be a wonderful differential.
      Don't suppose you have a spare £0.5m to turn Toney into Wilson do you?
      Newcatle's first two could be juicy (whilst Brentford's aren't great).
      Could always switch down to Toney in GW3.

    5. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      I will put money on it you won't have the bottle to play these week 1

    6. Haa-lala-land
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      I have no idea why the first responder posted 'yuck'.
      This is a very nicely balanced team, and it's good to see someone put thought into it.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 12 days ago

        Badwillie is one of our regular wind-up artists.

        The draft is different, but could work well. You'd need to be sure White is a nailed-on starter - I suspect he won't be. There are plenty other 4.5 options if he isn't.

  2. Rigid Digit
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 13 days ago

    Sanchez + White
    or
    Ramsdale + Mings

    The extra 0.5 gained from the first option will be Undav to Solanke up-front

    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      First one - that 6.0 striker range offers much more options than 5.5

    2. Eyes of Blue
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Sanchez + White

  3. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 13 days ago

    Morning! Only spots I’m unsure of now are starred, what do you think?

    Sanchez* | Steele
    Trent | Cancelo | Doherty | Tomiyasu | N.Williams
    Salah | Son | Martinelli | Gordon* | Pereira
    Haaland | Mitrovic* | Greenwood

    I know Mitrovic has his haters after prior burnings when he’s been in the prem, but his record of 43 goals in 44 albeit Championship appearances is hard to ignore….

    Other alternatives to the * spots:

    Current:
    A) Sanchez | Gordon/Neto | Mitrovic

    B) Mendy | Gordon/Neto | Johnson/Solanke

    C) Sanchez | Bruno G/Eriksen | Johnson/Solanke

    1. Hey_Arnold
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Doherty surplus to requirements.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        I don’t think so - either way that will be a 5.0 def slot, Cash/Trippier/Cresswell etc

    2. Wirtzle Gummidge
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      If you're going to pay 4.5m for a Brighton defensive asset then I'd get Dunk over Sanchez. Get Raya instead.

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        It’s not necessarily for Brighton defense - it’s because my starting 4.5 def is Tomiyasu.

        Any 4.5 keeper will do really…Not sure about Brentford, second season syndrome and all that

    3. Eyes of Blue
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Would probably say C, although I do prefer Neto over Bruno G. Maybe you could strengthen with that extra 0.5 elsewhere?

    4. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      I think you'll regret that 6.5/6m striker very quickly but if I had to pick I'd go B) Mendy Neto Johnson.

  4. Catastrophe
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 13 days ago

    Torn like many between 2 and 3 premiums although clearly mostly are going with 2. For my/template setup it comes down to:

    A) Kane, Laporte, Tomiyasu, Alisson (Salah, Haaland, Kane)
    B) Jesus, Diaz, Cancelo, Henderson (Salah, Haaland)

    Rationale for A:

    - Kane is proven gold and as nailed as you can get
    - Laporte finished the season very strongly and hopefully can cover Cancelo (for 1M cheaper). Cancelo was nailed in all my previous drafts, but dependent on the rest of the window do we not feel he may suffer a little more rotation this season? Against weaker opposition
    - I like the idea of Alisson over Diaz for the 3rd Liverpool spot. Diaz will be great value regardless at 8M but surely he will suffer some rotation? Someone somewhere performed a PPG analysis on Alisson vs. Diaz and I recall it was either very similar or even favoured Alisson. I'm not a big fan of the 4.5 GK options, Mendy looks interesting @ 5.0 but don't fancy the double up with Chilwell/James
    - Jesus I fear may underwhelm us all, but let's see
    - Tomiyasu could of course be Justin, Botman etc. at least one of them should become a solid option and an easy swap

    Thoughts? Happy to be ripped apart 🙂

    1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      A but with a 4.5 keeper instead of Allison and Laporte -> Cancelo

      1. Catastrophe
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        Cheers - yep, good option

    2. Disputatious Dissident
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Not clear who is first choice for city at cb

      1. Catastrophe
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        Unless I've missed something, Laporte & Dias should both be nailed. Obviously we need to wait for the window to conclude but Ake is also 1/8 to join Chelsea so if (big if) City don't sign another CB then that CB spot should be assured for either Laporte or Dias and Stones will get plenty of game-time in cups etc.

        1. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 13 days ago

          Schrodinger's cat would be an appropriate name for uncertainty in your case (smile)

    3. Red Red Robins
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      I love the idea of 3 premiums, but my midfield is so weak if i do, and im only captaining 1 premium each week

      Even now at work im toying with 3 haha

      1. Eze Really?
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        3 premiums a waste IMO. 2 for captaincy if you need to rotate. 1 if you can trust your choice. Points per mil make it not worth it IMO

        1. Red Red Robins
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 13 days ago

          Yeah, 2 the go - but ill tinker to now and then with 3, then look at the 4.5s and 5.5s in my team and delete

          1. Eze Really?
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 13 days ago

            It will be hard to get returns.But go for it!

        2. Catastrophe
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 13 days ago

          It's of course a risk, we tend to see the more flexibility in captain choices the more mistakes are made 🙂 but in theory with 3 Premiums you'll be almost guaranteed a no-brainer captain choice (on paper of course 😉 ).

          1. Eze Really?
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 13 days ago

            Yeah. The Human factor still to be factored in. (smile)

      2. Catastrophe
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        Cheers. For me it means going without Diaz and Laporte instead of Cancelo, but allows me to bring in Kane & Alisson over Jesus & Henderson/4.5. I'm interested in Kulu, Mahrez, Mount and Diaz but have doubts over all of them to the extent I'd rather avoid them to begin with.

        1. Red Red Robins
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 13 days ago

          My plan is start with Kane and shift to Haaland GW2, menaing i wont have any Spurs cover even in defence
          Id sooner have Medy at 5 than Alisson mate, i get why youve gone for him though but that 0.5 or even 1.0m could be used elsewhere.
          Pool and City i dont want to be wasting a spot on a GK, be annoying to chop and change down the line if you needed too

          Im currently Diaz, but seriously considering TAA Salah and Robertson, but if i did that Diaz @ 8 turns into a 5.5 - 6m mid - and thats not nice haha

          1. Catastrophe
            • 15 Years
            4 years, 13 days ago

            I considered that too but I don't like planning transfers so early on in the season. Mendy would be my 2nd choice but don't really fancy the double-up and Alisson scored really well last couple of seasons.

            Definitely not sold on the 3 premiums yet but it does seem more viable this season I think 🙂 time will tell. Good luck!

    4. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Ever seen Kane in August before?

      1. Catastrophe
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        Yes and although there are many years to backup the 'curse' I'm banking on him breaking it this season 😉

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 13 days ago

          Yeah, no real reason for this trend to be set in stone. If anything, Conte should be the one to break this pattern

      2. Eze Really?
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 13 days ago

        A bit of a myth I think

  5. ClothedinSun
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 13 days ago

    Toying with doing something a bit different to the 'big 5 at the back' approach (despite my head telling me it's the best approach!) This is what I like the look of, what do we think?

    Mendy,
    Cancelo, Chilwell, Robertson,
    Sterling, Ramsey, Neto, Gordon, Son,
    Jesus, Haaland.

    Raya, Taylor, Patterson, N. Williams

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Is Ramsdale 5m too? If so prefer him over Mendy. Far too many 5.5 mids which will go horribly wrong!

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 13 days ago

      Mostly good, just a bit lightweight in the middle. Not sure there's enough value in sub 6m mids atm to make this structure work

  6. WVA
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 13 days ago

    Could this work?

    Ramsdale
    TAA Cancelo James Perisic
    Salah Kuluveski BrunoG Neto
    Haaland Jesus
    4.0 4.5 4.5 4.0

    Would ideally like two 8m midfielders but would mean a lot of downgrades and no Chelsea full back?

    Mendy
    TAA Cancelo Doherty Tomiyasu
    Salah Kulu Mount Neto
    Haaland Jesus

  7. ShawSanch Redemption
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 13 days ago

    Please pull this apart:

    GK: Sanchez and Olsen
    DEF: Chilwell, Robertson, Cancelo, Perisic, Neco
    MID: KDB, Diaz, Bowen, Trossard, Andreas
    FWD: Haaland, Mitrovic, Gayle

    Would really appreciate the thoughts.

    1. Ahtikullervo
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 12 days ago

      I like this team.

  8. Dale Sartip-Zadeh
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 days ago

    Good potential

  9. Damien Sartip-Zadeh
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 5 days ago

    Some interesting stats

  10. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    I think I'm almost there

    Ederson
    TAA - Cancelo - VVD
    Salah - Mount - Martinelli - Neto - Bailey
    Kane - Jesus

    Ward - Neco - Patterson - Greenwood

    Kane > Haaland in gw 2

  11. Solly_786
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 11 months ago

    Lads please let me know what you think really need the help

    Mendy
    James Dalot cancelo
    Salah son rashford bailey
    Kane jesus Sam greenwood