FFS Cup

The Fantasy Football Scout Leagues and Cup Round-Up

For the final time, we assess the Scout leagues in a variety of Fantasy games after the campaign drew to a close at the weekend, with leagues in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), Ultimate Fantasy Premier League and Sky Sports to look back on. In addition, we reveal the winner of the FFS Paddy Power Cup XI Final and find out who was the champion of champions in our Scout Picks Community Challenge.

FPL, Fantasy Football Scout League. Winner: Simon March, Overall Ranking 1

Simon March, known to many on FFScout as Dufflinks, won the Scout League and Members League and was also crowned world number one in the FPL game. Since claiming the number one spot in Gameweek 23 his sensible approach to transfers, which involved saving his wildcard until Gameweek 34 and taking no hits, was enough to see him over the finishing line. A goal from his captain Sergio Aguero, allied with a commanding lead going into the final Gameweek, proved pivotal and made up for the fact that his final transfer of the season (Seb Larsson to Yannick Bolasie) failed to pay off. Simon finished on 2,470 points, 21 ahead of his nearest rival.

Jon Sumner (aka Jinswick), rose from fourth to second in the final Gameweek of the season thanks to an audacious pair of transfers involving a hit. Out went Olivier Giroud and Eden Hazard and in came Theo Walcott as vice captain and Diego Costa as captain, with his new recruits scoring four goals between them. In the end, his final Gameweek net score of 69, which gave him a total of 2449, was just short but cemented a place in FFScout folklore for his bravery and a second place finish overall.

Kev Gleave dropped from second to third and finished with a respectable final Gameweek score of 46 points, thanks to a goal from Jamie Vardy and his captain Aguero. Hanging onto Eden Hazard, who claimed an assist and two bonus points, also helped secure a final points tally of 2439. He also matched his league placing in the overall rankings.

Mariusz Fyrstenberg retained the fourth spot after drafting in Walcott and Christian Benteke for a hit. With a net score of 52 Mariusz finished sixth in the overall rankings with a final points tally of 2427, also thanks to goals from Aguero, Harry Kane and Esteban Cambiasso.

In fifth was Stuart Shingler, who was another non-mover as the season came to a close. He finishes on 2406 points and an overall rank of 13. Santi Cazorla, Aguero, Vardy and Jeffrey Schlupp were his stars in Gameweek 38.

FPL,FFS Members League. Winner: Simon March, Overall Ranking 1

As mentioned above, world number one Simon March also won this season’s FFS Members league. In second is Jack Wain, who comments under the name Jawain. He finished on 2415 points and ninth in the overall rankings, while Stuart Shingler took third place in our Members league.

Ultimate Fantasy Premier League. Winner: Damian Lindall – Overall Ranking 3

Damian Lindall clung onto first place to win our UFPL league and finished third overall with a total of 2,847 points. This came despite his Gameweek 38 captaincy of Romelu Lukaku letting him down. In second is Milanista on 2837, while Sean Tobin climbed to third place and finished on 2782. Amongst the top ten was fifth placed Alex Bowers, who won the Beta version of the game last season and remains one to watch in our UFPL league next season.

Sky Sports Fantasy Football. Winner: Geoff Pryor  – Overall Ranking 1

After finishing fifth overall in last year’s Sun Dream Team, Geoff Pryor has done even better in the Sky Sports Fantasy Football game, taking first place in our league and the overall rankings. His score of 2432 points was 37 ahead of second placed Katie Burgin, while John Eaton, with a score of 2432 took third. Katie’s score was enough to clinch fourth spot in the overall rankings, while John finished in fifth. Geoff scoops the top prize in the game of £30,000.

Fantasy Football Scout Paddy Power Cup XI. Winner: Mark

Mark’s sensational end of season run, that saw him claim an overall rank of 42, also earned him victory in the final of the Fantasy Football Scout Paddy Power Cup XI. He defeated faux_C by seven points thanks to drafting in Ulloa and keeping the faith in Hazard’s ability to recover from dental surgery. Mark wins £125 worth of free bets with Paddy Power for winning the Cup and gaining the highest score of the round. He can also treat himself to a £100 Amazon voucher as winner. Faux-C picks up £50 of free bets and a £50 Amazon voucher. Meanwhile, Hutton Dressed as Lahm won the third place play off against Hammers XI 46-43 and wins £50 of free bets and a £25 Amazon voucher.

FFScout Community Scout Picks Champion of Champions: Kings of Lyon

Kings of Lyon has won a £100 Amazon voucher after gaining the highest Gameweek score of the season among our Community Champions, who are selected each week by the community to help compile our Scout Picks. His Gameweek 36 score of 77 proved unbeatable. In our Scout Picks Challenge, Jonty (that’s me) emerged with the highest total over the season with 2011, followed by Paul on 1946, Mark on 1933 and the community champion’s final overall total was 1893, after Andy85wsm’s Gameweek 38 tally of 41 points was added in.

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Our official Champions League game this season is the Fantasy iTeam (FiT) offering – a free, reliable and easy-to-use Fantasy football app. With just the final remaining, Adriel Cheung leads the way on 852 points – 26 points ahead of Gavin Rolston, whilst Juan Garcia is close behind Gavin in third, on 825 points. There’s an iPad mini on offer to the winner – the league name is Fantasy Football Scout and the pin is 11155.

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  1. Shifty
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else didn't think Mad Max was all that great?

    Was a good CGI-less (mostly) action flick, but definitely no where near the level many were hyping it up to.

    1. The Enlightener
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      The new one? Can't say I think I would like it to any real degree. Not a fan of all these rehashes, and for me, it looked pretty terrible in the previews.

      1. The Enlightener
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        This is how some chick on Rotten Tomatoes described the movie: "A visceral feminist anthem disguised as a post-apocalyptic car chase." - - Sorry, but I'm a little tired of the whole feminist, we are badasses concept that is overpowering everything else these days.

        1. Shifty
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          yea it gets abit tiring tbh. even on Britains Got Talent...Alesha takes every chance to throw in a feminine/"proud to be a woman" statements.

          1. jennmenn
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Try come too Norway. The feminists are all over the place. In the worldCup 3 out of 4 in the studio where chicas ^^

          2. Ginkapo FPL
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Thats not feminist, its weakness.

            Feminism is equality, so not being surprised everytime a women does something well. Shes undermining their achievements every single time.

            1. jennmenn
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Equality is good thing and a nice word. Feminisme ain't the same, it's more like masculinist (only the other way around.)

              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                No its not. Thats the common misconception. Feminism isnt pro women, its pro equality. Which at the moment comes across as pro women because the world isnt fair gender wise.

                1. jennmenn
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  Dude, you only wanna stick it in Emma Watson.

                  It's a stupid word for it then. Call it equality and all sensable folks wants the same thing.

                  My enligsh is way too bad to sit nd have this discussion ^^

                  *hugs and love*

              2. Doolittle
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                That's not true. Feminism is, by definition, the idea of establishing equality for women. Feminism is a wonderful and necessary concept.

                1. Doolittle
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  And the use of "some chick" in this very thread shows that it's still something that needs addressing.

            2. Shifty
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Have a +1

        2. Galfadez
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Shocked to see some anti-feminist talk on a fantasy football website

          1. Galfadez
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            In all honesty though I thought it was great, the whole thing was like 100 miles an hour and absolutely crazy

            1. Shifty
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              craziest part about it was the fella with the guitar. everything else was decent action, nothing extraordinary

    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I thought it was pretty good, but definitely a film made just for the big screen. Wouldn't translate as well onto TV.

      1. Shifty
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        it was good but it wasnt a movie you'd talk about after though - straightforward, simple characters, no character development, predictable plot.

  2. The Sarjeant
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    What will be your defence strategy this year?

    A) Cheap as chips.
    B) Rotation based.
    C) Three defensively solid teams and two cheapies.
    D) A heavy hitter or two.
    E) 3x WBA players and two cheapies.
    F) Max out on attacking potential.

    Last year I started with C, and I was going to do the same this year, but I think I'm going to go with A and max out my budget on the attacking players. Also tempted by E + F!

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I'd love a PvA type of FPL player at WBA!

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Has Tony ever had a really attacking wing back in his squad? Or is that something he doesn't do tactically?

        1. Wet Knee Houston
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Maybe the defense wouldn't work so well then. It's like i was thinking the other day, how i would love a defensive manager at Newcastle, what an asset Janmaat would become! But then i thought - maybe those assists would dissapear too 🙂 You never know.

      2. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        The bad thing about WBA defence is no one hogs the bonus, if gets any at all!

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          I don't mind losing bonus points, as long as they're getting me those four clean sheet points.

      3. Pepereina Pizza
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Lescott's Everton days come again?

    2. Shifty
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Tempted by 1 Che/Ars defender, 2 x WBA, 1 x 4.5, 1 x 4.0 (if there's one)

      Judging from some of Arsene's comments towards the end of the season, I think he will be looking for a more balanced, measured approach next season which could bode well for their defenders.

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I might just grab the cheapest WBA defender and then fill the rest with 4.5's/4.0's!

        Only trouble doing that is the redistribution of funds to the defence is hard to do, unless you wildcard.

      2. The Sarjeant
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Oh, and remember when I said 'pull the plug' it's been bugging me ever since what I was actually trying to say, and then I realised earlier it was 'pull the trigger' lol! 😆

        1. Shifty
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          hahaha i do remember that. complete opposite meanings but i connected the dots 😀

          Yea really depends on prices and fixtures, but I wouldn't be against doubling up on WBA from the start. Early on in this preseason, when Pulis was still at Palace, there were teams with Speroni + Mariappa/Ward.

          Can see the same for Myhill + cheapest WBA at the start.

    3. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      After comparing my stats to the winners I need to improve in this area

      I may even go big and go 2 Chelsea plus 3 cheapies.

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Would 2 WBA offer more value?

        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          I want bonus potential

          Their GK appeals more

      2. Shifty
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Doing well in defence doesn't really mean spending big though - it's looking for the right combination of players and/or being willing to spend early FTs on defenders.

        At the start of the season, alot of focus is only spending FTs on the front 8 - but one lesson I learned this season is to be willing to spend an early FT on defenders.

        Often, a defender you transfer in will be keep for a longer period and if a good switch is made, will save some headaches and reward you in the long run.

        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Clyne Bertrand would have been the answer this season

          1. Shifty
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Doubling up on any popular defenders worked a treat too.

    4. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I don't really have a strategy each season. I'm just boring in that I just have tinker when it opens with no planning.

    5. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      2 heavy hitter, 3 way rotation

      1. Shifty
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Like the sound of this. Myhill + Che + Arsenal/United + 3 way rotation could be mint.

        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          yup!

        2. Pepereina Pizza
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          We'll all back out when we realize that Myhill costs 5.5m
          ... (or will it be Foster? His contract ends in June, but club have 2yr option on him)

          and we can't fit our template midfielder lineup unless we downgrade to ubers

    6. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      1 chelsea, PVA, shclupp, 2 cheapies

    7. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Probably
      Ivan, WBA, 4.5, 4.0,4.0

      Hopefully a bit of rotation across the final 3 and as much attacking potential as possible

  3. The Sarjeant
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Jeeeeeez, it's that dead, it's just me having a conversation with myself!

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Hey Sarj. What price do you think Di Maria will be next season? 🙂

      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        will he start?
        if so, 7.5 di maria is awesome.

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          You'd think so after a good pre-season under his belt. Doubt he'll be 7.5 though!

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I see that you were out on the lash, last night! 😆

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              🙂 It only started as a couple at the pub and some casual pool. How embarrassing...

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Hehehe! 😉

        2. Old Man
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          No way DM will be 7.5. 8.5 at the very best.

          1. Lord Flashheart
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            cant be more than 8 with terrible second half and big doubts over game time

            1. Old Man
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              I agree that he was really poor in the latter half of the season, but with such a big name I feel that that FPL Towers are never going to make him too cheap. I hope that you're right though with your estimate - if he settles down and gets nailed on then he'll be a must-have.

      2. Old Man
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Do you think he'll still be in England though? He doesn't look a happy bunny to me. Has his wife settled yet?

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah, very true. Who knows!

      3. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        8.5 i reckon

  4. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Some Transfer News:

    Rafa Benitez wants to make Raheem Sterling one of his first transfer targets for Real Madrid. (Daily Mirror)

    Danny Ings will decide whether to pick Liverpool or Tottenham while on his summer holiday. (Daily Star)

    Bayern Munich want Angel Di Maria - but Manchester United will demand most of his record £59.7million fee. (Daily Mirror)

    Iker Casillas has given the biggest hint yet that Manchester United goalkeeper David De Gea is heading for Real Madrid. (The Sun)

    Kevin de Bruyne has boosted Manchester City's hopes of signing him by ruling out a return to Chelsea. (Daily Mirror)

    Sunderland could launch a bold bid to land former Everton and Manchester United boss David Moyes although Real Madrid's number two Paul Clement remains an option. (Daily Star)

    1. jennmenn
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      When Liverpool and Spurs wants the same player, how come they often end up in Tottenham?

      1. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Usually they pay/offer more

    2. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Would love Sterling at Madrid. I think that could be the making of him, especially is Bale goes.

  5. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Wonder what price Kolarov will be. If nailed, he'd be 1st on my teansheet. Might even put up with a little rotation (Clichy; who I don't rate, can have the tough fixtures).

    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      If he's nailed, then FPL will become a 14-player game

      1. Shifty
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Could be a legitimate captain option too.

    2. Hamstergod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Him being nailed would break FPL.

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      You don't rate Clichy? Hmmm ... 😉

      1. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Doesn't offer as much going forward as Kola, and still not great to defend. Mind you, the main reason City were very good for a finish is the converted midfielder with the huge ego; Kompany was missing.

  6. Siva Mohan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Until Friday, people can buy @RealOviedo (Segunda División B team) shares again for as little as €11.50 (~£8).

    http://www.locosporverteganar.com/index-EN.asp
    ___________

    worth investing?

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Thats not cheap. Do you believe that they will get promoted, how long are you willing to have money tied up in that club? If you think they will and a long time, then its not a bad idea. Its still stocks and shares and comes with all the risks

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I invest for long time.. shares/stocks/mutual funds anything.. let's say 10 years.. worth a risk?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          MUCH too expensive!

      2. Ginkapo FPL
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Man UTd shares are at £16 at the moment to put it into perspective

        1. Siva Mohan
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          they are listed in US right? I cannot invest there..

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I more mean, that puts the potential increase is Segunda share price in context.

            1. Siva Mohan
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              got it.. you think the price is on higher end?

              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                I'm not going to answer that as whatever happens you'll come complaining to me in a few years.

      3. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Anyone who's investing to make money is deluded in my opinion.

    2. Enzo the Baker
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Haha just posted on this below.. I don't think you can make much profit out of it, but worth it just for the kicks, and owning a piece of a historic football club. I don't think the opportunity comes by very often

      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Cue the share price rising, everyone selling and the club folding.

    3. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Can we Indians Buy theses shares?

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Yes.. anyone with a valid passport..

        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          NICE! How many are you planning to buy?

          1. Siva Mohan
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            10 to start with 🙂

            1. Moin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              thinking the same

            2. Lawrø
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Wow!

              Yesterday some of us were talking about creating a Real Oviedo Shareholders mini-league, would any of you guys be interested? 😀

              The deadline to buy shares is the 29th of May fyi.

    4. pompeyfan
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      let's be honest this isn't an investment you make in order to make money, pretty much the same as any football investment. It's about supporting a project. I wouldn't bank of getting any returns. Not saying it won't happen but don't count on anything.

      1. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Precisely

      2. Couti & the Below5th
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        This. I'm Real Oviedo, and so's my wife

  7. Enzo the Baker
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    If anyone here has bought Real Oviedo shares - does anyone know what the minimum purchase must be, for one to be part of the annual general meeting ?

    An earlier post by Lawro suggests that 4 shares should be enough -
    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/05/27/the-fantasy-football-scout-leagues-and-cup-round-up/?hc_page=2#hc_comment_10382955

    Can anyone point me to a more detailed explanation / document with fine print .. the purchase pages doesn't have much detail (http://www.locosporverteganar.com/index-EN.asp)

    I'm really excited about getting in on the action.. Cheers for the help, chaps!

    1. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Read this webpage (Use Google chrome to translate if you don't speak Spanish!)

      http://realoviedo.es/preguntas-frecuentes-ampliacion-de-capital-2015/

      The last paragraph is what you're after 🙂

      #locosporverteganar

      1. Enzo the Baker
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Exactly what I needed - thanks Lawro, I owe you big time for the initial post and now this one as well

        1. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Not a problem, glad to help 🙂

      2. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        How many shares did you buy?

        #locosporverteganar

        1. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Only the four, not going to crazy as I'm saving for Uni! 🙂

          1. Lawrø
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            *too

            1. Moin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Ooh! I bought 12...

              1. Couti & the Below5th
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                5 here... FFS consortium to mount takeover bid?

                1. Moin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  hahaha Why not?

  8. Billy Gilmore
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Does anyone know how many possible starting/sub order combinations you could make with 13 outfield players in FPL?

    Thinking of trying to work out an ultimate dead team and trying to work out how much effort it would take.

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I went with the flair option when I looked at it last year. Take your random sample of 15 players, then get the formula to bench the weakest three where in an acceptable formation.

      So many options.

      You need some way of taking the number crunching out

      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, well I was going to use my dead team spreadsheet to do all the number crunching. Just thinking whether it would be possible to give it 15 names and get it to calculate the best starting and bench order combo. There must be a way of getting a macro to generate all the combos as separate teams...

        1. Shifty
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          some if functions, match, max functions should do the trick

          or you could enable the Solver add in.

          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Will solver be able to something that complex though?

            1. Shifty
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              forget it, i thought you were referring to just a squad of 15. Not the whole FPL player list!

              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Oh I've got no intentions of using the whole FPL player list. Ain't nobody got time for that 😆

    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Actually, I suppose it's only the subs combinations that count, in which case it's 286 combos minus the ones that have 3 defs or 3 forwards...

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        I assigned all the players id values. Then did a goalseek for the highest score by altering the id values of my 11 players. It was tricky.

        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Worked out the best GK combination. Foster-Heaton with a combined score of 191 points. Not too shabby.

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            But is that the best use of cash for the overall team?

            1. Billy Gilmore
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              At 9m it's pretty darn cheap. The best 8.5 combo is Myhill-Fabianski at 171 points. I think it would be hard to make up 20 points with that 0.5m.

              Why did I start doing this??!?

              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Hard, but not impossible. This is a theoretical exercise, no conjecture here. (I happen to know the 0.5 cant be used better elsewhere as I did this last year)

                1. Billy Gilmore
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  Doing defender combos now. Do you know how I can cut out the 6 duplicates you get from having the same three defenders just in different orders?

                  a,b,c
                  a,c,b
                  b,a,c
                  b,c,a
                  c,a,b
                  c,b,a

                  Seeing as they all give the same result

                  1. Coldplay
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    I think it's done by (number of defenders, 159 is it?) choose 3 = 65,7359. This will give you the number of different combinations for defenders, with no duplicates. How you would compute these many combinations is yet another task.

                    1. Coldplay
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      It's supposed to be 657,359 sorry.

                      1. Billy Gilmore
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Yeah, I've got the way of calculating their expected score, the problem is it doesn't know that when it gets to the a,c,b etc combo that it's already effectively been done before with a,b,c.

                        Your 657,359 combos is right for the number of starting combos, but when you include the number of first and second sub combos that number becomes frankly enormous (over 100 billion I think)

                        If it was only the 657,359 combos I could do it in Excel in no time at all (well probably a few hours of idly waiting for it to finish)

                  2. Ginkapo FPL
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    https://sites.google.com/site/e90e50fx/home/combinatorics-using-excel-formulas-and-examples

                    ^How dedicated are you? That looks like interesting stuff anyway.

                    My only real tip, is that the key word for googling is "permutations"

                    1. Billy Gilmore
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      Holy crap 😯

                      1. Mull
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        This is your life now Billy. 😀

                    2. Pepereina Pizza
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      I love the 3-month deadzone here. Absolutely love it.

                      We're finally talking about the Solver functionality in Excel.

          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Have you factored in the injury transfer?

            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              This is for a dead team Doos - i.e. set up the 15 players at the start of the season just gone and never login to change it again. No transfers allowed 🙂

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Where is the fun in that? 🙂

                1. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  It's an interesting exercise (if you're a bit of a nerd like Billy 😉 )

                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    Hahaha!

                  2. Ginkapo FPL
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    Now Now GW, Its an interesting exercise for everyone!

                    1. GreenWindmill
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      I didn't exclude myself from the nerd group 😉

                      1. Billy Gilmore
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        If I do all 159 defenders in just 3 at the back combos it's over 100 billion combos.

                        I think this is just going to be trial and error 😆

                      2. Ginkapo FPL
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        If you look at price you can discount certain players straight away for offering minimal points compared to a identical priced option.

                        Its an assumption but its reasonably safe. Cuts the player pool down somewhat.

                        I took the players, calculated their value and then used the top 50 players + the top 20 highest scorers if not included.

                      3. Billy Gilmore
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Yeah, that's probably a sensible assumption, although for subs it's not so much how many points they score, but when they score them.

                      4. Ginkapo FPL
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Subs optimising can be a post solution process

      2. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        That doesn't account for the different subs order though does it? I'm guessing that matters?

        I make it 13! / 10! = 1716

        Minus the invalid 3 defender (66 perms) and 3 forward options (6 perms)

        = 1644 possible combinations.

        Or have I gone completely screwy? It's probably 15 years since I looked at anything like this!

        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          It's been so long I've forgotten how that stuff works 😆

          I just did 13 choose 3

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I may have got it completely wrong, I'm rather rusty on this stuff!

        2. Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          That's what I did Npr not Ncr and then sorted out the exceptions. But it still doesn't look right 🙁

        3. Pepereina Pizza
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          I think of subs order as just 3 different arrangements of (5 defs), (5 mids), (3 fwds), ... and 2 gk's has no impact since you don't get to choose (it's 2-factorial, or 2x1... so, just x2)

          I love a good "word problem" so I'm going to go walk the dog and then get the calculator out.

          Best thread in months around here X)

    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      There are over 2x10^26 possible combinations of 15 players, just from players who played at least a minute

      😆 😆

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Matlab time

    4. Pepereina Pizza
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      There are 2,760 possible FPL team sheets every GW with a static player pool of 11 + 4 bench (incl. keeper)

      Possible formations:
      gk + 5, 2, 3 = 2*1*10*1 = 20
      gk + 5, 3, 2 = 2*1*10*3 = 60
      gk + 5, 4, 1 = 2*1*5*3 = 30
      ... so, given a team of 15 FPL players, there are 110 possible starting XI's in a 5-defender formation
      gk + 4, 3, 3 = 2*5*10*1 = 100
      gk + 4, 4, 2 = 2*5*5*3 = 60
      gk + 4, 5, 1 = 2*5*1*3 = 30
      ... so, given the same team of 15 FPL players, there are 190 possible starting XI's in a 4-defender formation
      gk + 3, 5, 2 = 2*10*1*3 = 60
      gk + 3, 4, 3 = 2*10*5*1 =100
      ... and given the same team, again, of 15 FPL players, there are 160 possible starting XI's in a 3-defender formation
      Whether you know it or not, your starting XI is actually just 1 of 460 possible teams at your disposal.
      AND that doesn't account for your bench!
      Since each formation leaves you 3 bench players, with 6 possible arrangements, multiply the total by 6.
      There are 2,760 ways to arrange your team every GW.

      !!

      If you forego a 2nd keeper, it's half that number... 1,380

      1. Pepereina Pizza
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        i couldn't get my head around the factorial parts (for I am not Archimedes) so I did some homework on it and found the formula.

        I also found an online calculator to help simplify the math:
        http://www.mathsisfun.com/combinatorics/combinations-permutations-calculator.html

  9. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    One of those headlines sticks out this morning, and that’s the rumour in The Sun that Manchester City are leading the £85m race for Paul Pogba.

    The paper claims City executives met with Pogba’s representatives last week and were told the Juventus man is available for a fee of around £45m plus a further £40m in wages.

    1. jennmenn
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Would have been lovely with Pogba back in the PL

    2. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      good yaya replacement

    3. Slumdog Mignolet.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      The same paper said yesterday that Pogba will only go to Spain?

    4. Tomlette Greggs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      think he will most likely end up at Barcelona.

      He wants to go there, and they are planning to tie up a deal which sees him move to Barca in January (something to do with their transfer embargo this summer).

      Graham Hunter (I think it was him) said recently on talkSPORT that Barcelona were in pole position, and the only other club he was currently considering (or is in the running) to sign him was Chelsea. But of course, things change. And with City's FFP problems solved, they could well enter the race for him.

  10. The Kolarov Mane ⚔
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    I think I have a problem... after seeing FT on a license plate, my immediate thought was... "cool, a free transfer"

    1. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Save it.

    2. Non-template FPL is for Kin…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      The same happens to me with RMT/PVA etc.

      1. HVT
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Every time I hear DVD I think VDV !

  11. Piggs Boson
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    The vilest four-letter word in the English language starts with an F.

    Fifa.

    1. Siva Mohan
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      four-letter words .. BCCI & FIFA
      three-letter word .. ICC

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I'd venture it starts with an S; Sepp.

  12. Siva Mohan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Raheem Sterling is asking for £200,000-a-week 😯 😆

    Man City are offering £250,000 a week in wages after a transfer fee of around £65m, so if Pogba signed a five-year contract it's a combined package of £130m. 😯

    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      That's obviously tabloid nonsense.

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        This! Only 1 of Pogba or Sterling would come..and I think City would prefer Pogba

      2. HVT
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        We need nonsense now.

    2. Slumdog Mignolet.
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Pogba will not come to the Premier League he's too good

  13. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Odds teeth!!! But I am bored by Pogba!

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      so here's some other news:

      Rafa Benitez will make Raheem Sterling his top target if he gets the Real Madrid job, according to the Daily Mirror.

      Benitez is the favourite for the job at the Bernabeu, and the paper claims he could be set to pounce for the unsettled Liverpool man.

      1. HVT
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        For me sterling is overrated.

        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Agree! I don't know why but somehow I prefer Lallana over Sterling

          1. HVT
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I thought lallana was exceptional at soton and thought United should have chased.
            Either I was wrong about him or Liverpool is a graveyard for players, to add I thought what Ridgers did with Lambert was appalling.

            1. Moin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Liverpool is a graveyard!

              both him and Lambert were doing pretty well with Soton!

              1. HVT
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Agree. Why take Rickie and not play/Facilitate him when the club was screaming for goals?
                The dogs on the street knew his style maybe not pretty but effective but I like Ricky-There's an old fashioned quality of hard work and endeavour about lambert a real honest broker in my book.
                Liverpool have been struggling for goals but yet they ignored him?
                Don't get me wrong it's all too common now - teams buying players and not being able to 'facilitate' their style, it's an aspect I dislike in the modern game.

        2. pompeyfan
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          totally agree. If Liverpool can get £40m+ for him they have done amazingly well!

      2. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Rafa at Real makes Sterling his first signing.

        Rafa sacked by January. Raheem nowhere near up to that level imo.

        1. HVT
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          This!

  14. HVT
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Good morning All!

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Morning HVT.

      Have a gif: http://i.imgur.com/k1fIpIC.webm

      1. HVT
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        We've missed that haven't we!
        🙁

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah, he's one of a kind. Terrific player to watch. Every time he got the ball I'd sit up.

          1. HVT
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            When Ronaldo/Rooney/Tevez where together they were electric, I miss those days.
            So quick going forward so devastating.
            Goals win games ultimately (as Liverpool found out on Suarez departure) and United need to get back to that kind of formulae.
            Do you think Lvg is the man going forward?
            If I'm honest I have doubts.

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              I think he's the right man. The squad badly needed rebalancing, and I think he'll complete that this summer. Very competent, successful manager.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW2_hXLpPGI

              1. HVT
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Well he deserves another year for sure.
                (Maybe Moyes did too)

        2. thepuntmaster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Would love to watch him every week again! 😀

  15. Rabbinton
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    What is the name of the site where you can view mini league data in chart form?

    1. Shifty
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      visualfpl.com?

      1. Rabbinton
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        That's the one - thanks!

  16. Eze Really?
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Name your over achievers team of the season:

    Adrian: penalty saves value for money.
    Clyne: always thought he was good but made Shaw and Chamberlain look average.
    Terry: Every minute at 34 amazing.
    Dan: Most reliable value for money Defender.
    Bellerin: His pace is phenomenal and will be nailed next year.
    Mccarthy: Everton would have been relegated without him.
    Schneideriln: Arsenal could have won the league with him.
    Bolasie: Through the ranks player who doesn't realise himself how good he is
    Vardy: Workhorse of note and seems to cover more than one position
    Austin: Scoring goals for QPR no matter what division he plays in.
    Manre: Find of the season

    .

    1. HVT
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Brendan Rodgers - keeping his job!

    2. Sharkytect
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Kane? Barely made the starting line up until gameweek 10. Still got nearly 200 points.

      1. Eze Really?
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Hard not to include him. When I watch him though something is missing.

  17. Sharkytect
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    This Fifa scandal thing couldn't have come at a better time - something to talk about now the season's (almost) over!

  18. Respect My Authoritah
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all, hope the season went well!

    I'm interested in becoming a fully paid member for next season. I'd like to suggest/ask if the member exclusive tools could be sampled/trialed for a short while during the off-season so we can really see what we can use and may find useful. Is this at all possible mods?

    1. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I don't think you can sample them but there is a video somewhere showing how they can be used...

      It's definitely worth it! The amount of stats that are a click away is fantastic for FPL addicts like us 🙂

    2. Doolittle
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      I doubt that's possible, but it's definitely worth it. A tenner for the season is nothing, and the stats are extremely helpful.

    3. Wet Knee Houston
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Have you checked these videos? http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/scout-member-benefits/

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Or this 🙂

    4. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Here's 1 or 2 videos that will help you: https://vimeo.com/user12241527/videos/page:2/sort:date

    5. HVT
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Just pay up !
      😉

  19. Coldplay
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Atsu could join Bournemouth on loan from Chelsea. If he does he could be a good FPL option if he's not over 5.

    1. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      He could not get game time with Everton who were poor especially down the flanks. Why the love?

      1. Coldplay
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Well they had the likes of Mirallas and Lennon on the flanks. Surely, someone with some PL experience to a newly promoted team could help them, with his pace especially.

    2. pompeyfan
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      there's a case for hoping that some of these type of players are actually slightly overpriced. Because if Ritchie for example is priced at 5.0m every man and his dog will have him, but price him at 5.5m and you might have something of a differential on your hands.

      1. Coldplay
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        That is true but it will be hard to get a 5th midfielder that is priced at 5.5. Especially, the way we expect the big guns to be highly priced. Could be interesting though.

  20. Eze Really?
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    If there was ever good reason for the big nations to pull out of FIFA it must be now. Run a tournament at the same time and see where the support would lie.

    1. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      That would be tough to do. With no sponsors and finances etc. Unless UEFA helps them do that.

      1. pompeyfan
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        sponsorship would take care of itself if the tv networks were to screen it

        1. Eze Really?
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Absolutely!

  21. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Thanks again to everyone who voted for me! Community champion wouldn't have been possible if it were not for you guys 🙂

    1. Shifty
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      good job KOL. Couldn't believe some of the community teams some weeks though.

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers mate. Aye some were a bit out there but I think thats what its all about a few good differentials and good discriptions

  22. Siva Mohan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    @MOIN

    after you bought the shares.. did they send you a statement by email? and any fine print with it?

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      after the payment I got a receipt of the payment in my mail and in the website a pdf file showing I'm an owener

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks..

  23. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    How reliable to the German paper Bild?

  24. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Juventus are demanding at least 40m Euros (£28.4m) for Arsenal target Arturo Vidal, according to Tuttosport.

    Arsene Wenger has admitted his admiration for the midfielder, but the Turin-based newspaper says Juve will only consider offers beyond that figure.

    Wenger to Bid 40.01m Euros?

    1. Siva Mohan
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      40m + 1p 🙂

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        40m +1c in Euros 🙂

        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          haha much expected

    2. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      That's not much for a player like Vidal. Considering we got ADM at 50 something m pounds, this is a steal.

    3. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Bidding 40m and1 Euros for Suarez was probably the worst decision Wenger has made in his managerial career. Arsenal could've won the league with him.

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Yup!

  25. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone here used GadgetInsurance.ie? Half the price of Vodafone for insurance, but just want to check they're not shysters!

  26. Pepereina Pizza
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    FAO Billy Gilmore, if you're still around I did some math on your "possible dead teams" question, above.

    From a player list of 2gk/5def/5mid/3fwd (so, 14 players) and given FPL's rules (3 def or more, 1 fwd or more) there are:

    460 (possible starting XI's)
    x 6 (possible bench configs for each)
    -----
    = 2,760 possible teams

    The math is above.