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Scout Report – Nicolas Otamendi

Last week, Manchester City swooped to sign the Argentina international Nicolas Otamendi from Valencia in a deal worth a reported £32 million. The centre-back has signed a five-year contract at the Etihad, and is the Citizens third major summer signing following the addition of England duo Raheem Sterling and Fabian Delph.

Speaking about his latest signing, manager Manuel Pellegrini was clearly delighted to have secured the Argentine’s services:

“Nicolas Otamendi was arguably the best defender in La Liga last season and so naturally I’m delighted to have added a player of his quality…“As a footballer, Nicolas has all of the qualities to be a success in the Premier League – he’s strong, he’s excellent in the tackle and he’s very good technically.”

THE HISTORY

Born in Buenos Aires, Otamendi began his youth career at Velez Sarsfield, before making his first-team debut for the Argentinian outfit in 2008. He was named in the South American Team of the Year in 2009, and his performances attracted the attention of Portuguese side Porto, who signed the defender for €4 million in the summer of 2010.

Otamendi enjoyed a successful first season in Portugal, helping Porto win the Premeira Liga, while he also managed to score five times in his 15 league outings. He would go on to win two more league titles, as he chalked up a further 62 appearances for the Portuguese giants, although he only scored a two more goals.

The Argentine was sold to Valencia for €12 million in February 2014, but was loaned to Brazilian side Atletico Mineiro for the rest of the 2013/14 campaign, where he made five league appearances, before returning to the Spanish side for the following season, where he played 35 times in La Liga, scoring six goals.

The 27-year-old defender made his international debut against Panama in April 2009, and has since gone on to make 25 appearances for his country, scoring one goal. He was named in the Team of the Tournament in this summer’s Copa America, where he played in all but one of Argentina’s six matches as they lost out to Chile in the final on penalties.

THE PROSPECTS

Given Otamendi’s standing as one of the best centre-backs in Europe last season, the Argentine is ultimately expected to partner skipper Vincent Kompany at the heart of the City defence. The early season form of Eliaquim Mangala, a former team-mate of Otamendi at Porto does, however, throw a little doubt on that assumption.

Indeed, as Pellegrini admitted prior to the weekend win at Everton – a match Otamendi was unavailable for due to work permit issues – he’s happy with his defence at the moment:

“In the way we are playing, it is impossible to move Kompany and Mangala and all the rest of the players from their positions. They are in a good moment. We did not concede one goal in the last two games. We continue playing with the same. We played very well in these two games. Vincent played very well, Mangala played very well, all the team played very well and it is very important to continue in that way.”


City have yet to concede in their three league outings so far this term, and seem to be benefitting from some continuity in their back four, with Bacary Sagna, Kompany, Mangala and Aleksandar Kolarov all working well in unison. Mangala’s struggles of last season illustrated how it can be difficult for defenders to settle in England’s top-flight and while Otamendi is a much more experienced player, he may still take a little time to become accustomed to the pace of the Premier League.

In terms of comparing the two players, Otamendi fared better in tackles (2.9 to 1.7), clearances (7.3 to 5.9), interceptions (3.1 to 1.6) and blocks (0.8 to 0.5) per league match last season than Mangala –indeed, he made more clearances (258) than any player in La Liga in 2014/15. There is evidence that the France international is starting to read the game better, though – his interceptions per match have risen to 3.7 so far this season.

Perhaps the main obstacle for Otamendi’s Fantasy prospects is the somewhat prohibitive 6.5 price tag he’s been handed in Fantasy Premier League (FPL). While he scored six goals and averaged 0.6 shots per match last year, compared to 0.2 for Kompany (although the Belgian is managing 1.2 goal attempts per match this term), the fact the City skipper ‘s security of makes his price tag of 6.3 in FPL looks far more appealing. There’s also the cheaper Kolarov (5.7) to consider from the City backline, given he appears to have formed a strong understanding with Sterling down the left-hand side. Nonetheless, the Serbian could yet be prone to rotation once the Champions League resumes next month, with Gael Clichy now fit for selection.

There’s no doubt Otamendi arrives in England with the potential to become one of the best centre-backs in the top flight. Despite only standing six foot tall, his aerial prowess makes him a real threat from set-pieces and could well see him bring in the points at both ends of the pitch. He’s also versatile enough to play at right-back, should Pellegrini look for alternatives in light of Pablo Zabaleta’s knee injury absence.

With City set for a superb run of fixtures (WAT, cpl, WHM, tot, NEW, BOU) in the next six Gameweeks, many are looking to load up on their main assets but for now, Otamendi looks an unnecessary gamble. There seems little doubt that he will ultimately usurp Mangala in the heart of defence but, bearing in mind his side’s stunning start to the season, it seems unlikely that the City boss will feel the need to tinker with a winning formula for now.

FURTHER REFERENCE

Nicolas Otamendi Wikipedia

Nicolas Otamendi Transfer Markt Page

Nicolas Otamendi YouTube Highlights

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  1. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Butland
    Gomez Richards Targett 
    Silva Depay Sanchez Mahrez 
    Lukaku Gomis Aguero 
    Subs - Westwood Shaw Reid

    Any suggestions for improvements this week? 1 FT & 0.1 ITB

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Save

    2. darko
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Only that there's no Chelsea, but looks good.

    3. Quinny___
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Id play shaw.

      1. Scotty B
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Instead of who?

        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Richards

  2. GoonerByron
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    For Ultimate FPL.. Worth doing Ozil + Hazard -> Sanchez + Pedro?

    1. darko
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yep

      1. GoonerByron
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        😀

  3. Valar(Keith)
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bojan is back 😎 .. Bandwagon from GW 5. just realised he is only 5.4 and dropping 😯

    1. Quinny___
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Diouf will keep him out of the team *fingers crossed*

      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        He never plays as a strikers.. will play behind the striker

        1. Quinny___
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Shaq not playing no10 ? Or is he out wide?

    2. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Definite starter?

      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yup. Slightly revers OOP since he'll play in the hole but he'll still rack up the points 🙂

    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      lovely fixtures coming

      could be a nice swap from Wilson if I've not got Shaq

  4. A Defender's Nightmare
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Saints presser happened?

  5. Quinny___
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Just pulled the trigger on
    Hazard, Payet -> Pedro, YaYa +0.9m

    No brainer right? 🙂

    1. Camp No No
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Clearly not, as you come here to ask about it.

      1. Quinny___
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Someone's a little grouchy

        1. r4ndomduh
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Bad move

  6. manpuyuh
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    How about my squad. Have any suggestion for free transfer?

    Hart
    Sagna Gomez Cahill
    Mahrez Sanchez Hazard Yaya Payet
    Gomis Benteke

    (McCarthy Ighalo Richards Oxford)

    1. RustyBz
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I really think you're wasting City spots with Hart & Sagna. Not many points in those 2 either.

  7. HurriKane
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Play 2

    A) Richards SUN (H)

    B) Muniesa WBA (H)

    C) Depay SWA (A)

    D) Payet LIV (A)

    1. RustyBz
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A, C

    2. pompeyfan
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B & C

  8. RustyBz
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Sterling -> Yaya too sideways?

    Can't think of a better transfer in my team atm. I have Kun, Sterling and Silva.

    1. darko
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not if you're desperately trying to free up funds for something else, but taking Silva out is risky. Best player so far!

      1. RustyBz
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Taking Silva out?

        I'd be taking Sterling out for Yaya.

        1. darko
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Sorry, misread. Bit sideways then, but I think Yaya will score more, so yeah if theres nothing more pressing.

  9. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I miss Roysbrotherjohnson. Imagine how long he'd last on here with the new mod rules!

    1. Pap Le Cissier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      New rules?

      1. Connor's Calling
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        you know what i mean. Deleting posts...site bans etc.

        could have been entertaining.

        Wonder what Jamsiep is up to these days too...

        1. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Crikey, that's a name from the past!

  10. Jay_
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Devilliers scoring a 50 off 30 odd balls is just a standard procedure now, might be worth tuning into the cricket, his in with 15 overs to go could be fireworks

      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        nice, de villiers special coming up.

        1. Jay_
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Hope so, 150 is possible with him

        2. walkman666
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Ignorant American comment #756234: I do not even know to what sport you are referring.

          Counter sport comment: Last night, Ivan Nova gave up 5 runs in the 1st inning after getting the first two out. Unreal. Then, we lost 15-1. Pathetic.

      2. Mr. Grv
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Fabregas to ?
        Pedro ? For a -4
        Or any other moves ?

        1. RustyBz
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'd go Fabregas-> Silva if you can

          1. Mr. Grv
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I have sterling .

      3. Sweetpea
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Vardy to Wilson.

        Yay or neigh, my fellow steads.

        1. Quinny___
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Knee jerk. Remember Bolasie when he scored a hattie, and how he didnt nowt after it

        2. Messiah Hazard
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yay

      4. LewanGOALski
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        starting to feel scared not to own a Liverpool attacker for their game against Adrian-less and Jenkinson-less Hammers 😐

        Pelle ➡ Benteke (-4) is more & more tempting tbf, especially that I am gonna do it anyways for GW6, maybe even for GW5

        1. RustyBz
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          .Awful move. Wait and do it for free later on

        2. Xna
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Norwich pretty leaky in the back themselves. I'd do it GW6 due to Pelle's fixtures

        3. Del Griffith
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          not a bad move but Saints play Norwich so Pelle could be on the score sheet for that game

        4. Dacra
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Im tempted Gomis to Benteke for free after Gomis increases in price again to take the profit from him.

          Or Lukaku to Benteke.

          Or Payet/Depay to Coutinho or maybe even a punt on Firmino,

          Dunno.

          1. LewanGOALski
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I'd go Lukaku to Tekkers if I were you

            Firmino? Didn't like him so far from what I've seen...

        5. walkman666
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I felt that way about not having Liverpool defender for their next 3 of 4 matches...I have not seen the evidence that an attacker is needed, but there has been a lot of evidence that a defender is needed for Liverpool.

      5. Messiah Hazard
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If Sakho is out injured and West Ham have no fit strikers, will Payet start as a striker or will it be someone else?

        1. Xna
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Maiga?

          1. Pap Le Cissier
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Gone

        2. LewanGOALski
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Maiga?

          Pretty good performance when he came on vs BOU

      6. RustyBz
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Awful move. Wait and do it for free later on

        1. RustyBz
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          urgh

          1. RustyBz
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            🙁

          2. The Nuttmxn
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            It looks straight into my soul :ozil:

      7. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Pedro is unlocked on 28/08/2015 at 15:53:42

        Chances of him increasing in price that night ?.

        1. Dacra
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          High.

      8. Wouter
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Wow. Just seen one scary video on Twitter.. This live news report and all of a sudden a gunman walks up and starts shooting. Her scream is terrifying.. Damn.

        Apparently her and her cameraman were both killed.

        1. RustyBz
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Probably wrong place for this

        2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I'd prefer not to watch people dying tbh.. 🙁

        3. Business Dog
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          This is why I rarely go on Twitter/FB.

        4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I read about it in the news did not feel the urge to see it, just horrible...

      9. Danstoke82
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Is this worth a go?

        1FT - Considering Anya > Westwood (Villa H to Sunderland)

        Then playing AOA, with team as follows, purely because my front 3 have decent home fixtures, Silva and Sanchez also has tasty fixtures also:

        Myhill

        Richards Kolarov

        Silva Sanchez Payet Mahrez Westwood

        Kun Gomis Benteke

        subs: McCarthy Darmian Huth Saylor.

        Madness of logic?

      10. laGan1n1
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        any Eriksen news ?

        1. Del Griffith
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          probably be Fridays pressers now

      11. NotAddicted
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Hey guys,

        Are there any reliable sites for price drops/rises? Been using totalfpl since last year, but don't feel I can trust it enough to make make an early transfer because of an eminent price change.

        1. RustyBz
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          FFFx

        2. Barry Woj
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Neither is 100% reliable but people have been going on these 2:

          http://www.fantasyfootballfix.com/price/
          http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/

          1. NotAddicted
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers!!

      12. Quinny___
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Roma rejected a 35m bid from United for Kevin Strootman, this week he under goes double surgery for the third time in 18months.

        I can imagine how the owner feels

        1. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I think our thoughts should be with Strootman, screw the owners, it must be tough coping with the constant surgery and not playing, I hope he get's the best support for his mental and physical health.

          1. Quinny___
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            It seems Roma know what a talent he is and are sticking by their man. World beater when fit.

        2. pompeyfan
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          it's really a shame

      13. Sterling Chap
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Who should take the final spot in def for this weekend...

        A) Shaw vs SWA
        B) Francis vs LEI
        C) Martin vs SOU

        Cheers

        1. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          B

          1. Sterling Chap
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers

      14. hazza44
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A.) Coutinho & Shaqiri

        or

        B.) Sanchez & Westwood

        1. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          B

        2. Sterling Chap
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          A

      15. Fantasytom
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Costa and Sanchez are above 90 on fplstats- chances they will rise this week?!

          1. PurpleCobras
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            They should call you Gifs Boson...! I'll get my coat...

      16. fplej
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        9.7 to spend on main GK & a defender. suggestions?

        XXX • McCarthy
        Kolarov • Gomez • Francis • Targett • XXX
        Sanchez • Silva • Pedro • Mahrez • Westwood
        Kun • Benteke • Wilson

        1. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Krul and prodl

      17. Elmerito
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Opinions??

        Butland
        Gomez Kolarov Shaw
        Depay Özil Mahrez Hazard
        Aguero Sakho Gomis

        To take -4 or not?

        A: Sakho -> Diouf or Wilson (no -)
        B: Sakho & Depay -> Diouf & Coutinho (-4)
        C: Sakho & Depay -> Wilson & Silva (-4)

        Please comment. Thanks!

        1. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          C

      18. Boothy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Hey Guys, 1st WC draft.... please thoughts?

        Myhill - McCarthy

        Cedric - Francis - Muniesa - Prodl - Gomez

        Mahrez - Yaya - Sanchez - Pedro - Silva

        Kun - Wilson - * Kone

        * Kone is in for budget reasons.... Rotation also with Wilson if need be.

        Thoughts please peeps 🙂

        1. fplej
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          not worried about foster back in october? pretty much guaranteed to waste one of your FTs

      19. ralfb
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Keep ayew and get silva for yaya

        Or

        Get pedro for ayew and keep yaya

        1. Del Griffith
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          odd moves, sounds like u should save the transfer

          1. ralfb
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Am on wc, so number of transfers dont matter

        2. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Neither

          1. ralfb
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            What then?

            1. Pap Le Cissier
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Leave it

      20. Bushiosboys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        So tempted to wildcard or at least take -4 hit to get roon>benteke. I just think he HAS to be due a goal or something surely? And will benteke defo score more than 6 therfore making it worth the -4 hit and at least 2 roon will get? Important decision as i've had a decent start and 2nd of my mini league, we also have cash prizes for highest monthly score and this is last gw in it :-/

        Opinions?
        1. leave as is
        2. WC
        3. Roon > tekkers -4 hit

        Guzan
        Clyne Huth Mert
        Haz Yaya Mahrez Westwood
        Aguero (C) Rooney Lakaku

        Bench Myhill Wanyama WIlliams Saylor

        Total points 163
        2nd mini league
        overall 72,125

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Anyone in the top 1m is banned from getting any help ;-P

          1. Bushiosboys
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            haha, started so well, dipped a bit now 🙁

        2. Del Griffith
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Benteke defo score more than 6 ? Nothing is definate, could easily blank

          1. Bushiosboys
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Thats what I mean, I know hammers dont have adrian or jenkinson so likely to score. But i dont think its worth the risk as he would need to score 6 in order to make the hit worth while. Thats what i mean.... surely ROO DUE SOMETHING MAN

      21. Dušan Citizen
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Would you wildcard this team:

        Schmeichwarzer
        Azpi - Cedric - Martin - Francis - Coates
        Sterling - Ozil - Depay - Mahrez - Sinclair
        Aguero - Benteke - Gomis (Already used FT for Payet to Mahrez, 1.7 ITB)

        to any of this:

        Myhill - Rose
        Azpi - Kolarov - Janmaat/other - Martin - Francis
        Sanchez - Pedro - Yaya - Mahrez - Westwood
        Aguero - Gomis - Diouf
        or
        Same defence
        Pedro - Yaya - Ramsey - Coutinho - Mahrez
        Aguero - Gomis - Ighalo

        1. Greenbackbøøg…
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Keep

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            What to change then?

        2. pompeyfan
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          no

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            What to change in my currently team?

            1. pompeyfan
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              it depends if you want to take a hit this gw. I'm personally considering Silva in for a hit for either Depay or Ozil, not sure though.

              1. Dušan Citizen
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                I was thinking about Depay to Pedro for -4

                1. pompeyfan
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  not for me, don't like their fixtures

        3. chilli con kone
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          If you are then I prefer the bottom team

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            And what you think about my currently team? 🙂

        4. Quinny___
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Well the way I see it is Cedric is the only defender there worth keeping. YYT is a better option than sterling, Depay is fluffing atm. So you have maybe 7 players to change, keppers to maybe. So its enough to WC.

          Not having Silva/YYT, sanchez, City defence could hurt you

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah, tough call. 🙁

            1. Quinny___
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I reckon you do it.

              You have to use it sometime this first half of the season why not do it now, get in the season keepers, get the bandwagon price risers and set your team up.

              City have awesome fixtures. Get in your kolarovs and silva's before its to late. Sanchez is about to explode to imo.

              you defence is abit to much of promotion sides aswel. Go for the safe reliable huths, muniesa etc

              1. Dušan Citizen
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                I planned to use it around GW 7 when City and Palace have 5 home games in period of GW 8 to 14.

        5. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          No way!

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            And Coates to Kolarov for -4?