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Barkley and Abraham benched as injured Chilwell misses out

Chelsea take on Leicester City in the second and final Premier League fixture to take place on Sunday.

Kick-off at Stamford Bridge is at 16:30 BST.

There has only been one goal scored in the last three league meetings between these two clubs: two stalemates sandwiching the Foxes’ 1-0 win in west London in December 2018.

The Chelsea starting XI shows only one change from the side that took on Liverpool in midweek, with Mason Mount (£6.0m) replacing Mateo Kovacic (£5.5m) in midfield.

That means there is again no place for Ross Barkley (£6.0m) or Tammy Abraham (£7.0m), who are among the substitutes.

Pedro (£7.0m) and Christian Pulisic (£7.5m) will flank Olivier Giroud (£7.0m) in the Blues’ attack, while Willian (£7.0m) makes the bench.

Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) won’t feature for the visitors this afternoon, with his place at left-back being taken by Christian Fuchs (£4.5m).

Chilwell misses out with a minor hip injury.

That is Brendan Rodgers’ only change to the side that drew 0-0 with Wolves in Gameweek 1, so Ayoze Perez (£6.5m) and James Maddison (£7.0m) will again support Jamie Vardy (£9.0m) in attack.

The Foxes are without a Premier League goal in three matches stretching back to April of last season, although have admittedly faced tricky opposition in the form of Wolves, Manchester City and Maurizio Sarri’s Chelsea in that time.

Rodgers’ side managed only three shots from inside the box against a stubborn Wolves side last weekend.

They may get more joy out of a Chelsea backline that has shipped six goals in their two competitive matches in 2019/20, however.

Lampard’s troops also conceded on eight occasions in their final three pre-season friendlies.

The Blues look more promising going forward, however, having racked up 38 shots against Manchester United and Liverpool over the past week.

Chelsea XI (4-2-3-1): Kepa, Azpilicueta, Christensen, Zouma, Emerson, Kante, Jorginho, Pedro, Mount, Pulisic, Giroud.

Leicester City XI (4-3-3): Schmeichel, Ricardo, Evans, Soyuncu, Fuchs, Choudhury, Ndidi, Tielemans, Maddison, Perez, Vardy.

Lessons learned from Gameweek 2

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  1. sirmorbach
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Lads, I do apologise for insisting, but I didn't get no reply and I could really use some help.

    Using my 2 ft and 0.5 itb:

    Heaton
    TAA, VVD, Laporte, Coleman (Lundstram)
    Salah, Sterling, Fraser, Robinson (Dendoncker)
    Vardy, Adams (Greenwood)

    A. Robinson-Mount,
    B. Fraser-Mount, Greenwood-Pukki
    C. Fraser-Martial
    D. VVD-Montoya, Greenwood-Pukki
    E. Vardy-Pukki, Fraser-KDB
    F. VVD-Maguire, Fraser-Martial, Robinson-Mount (- 4)

    1. ElliotJHP
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      E is your winner

      1. sirmorbach
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers mate!

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Kneejerk a bit moar. None of these

      1. sirmorbach
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        If I may, mate, what would you suggest for that lot?

    3. Don Van Vliet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      E

      1. sirmorbach
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks, mate, I really do appreciate it!

    4. skybluecam
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      E

      1. sirmorbach
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers!

    5. JustPark
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      E before gw2 deadline.

      1. sirmorbach
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks, Park!

    6. Shark Team
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      F by far despite the hit

      1. sirmorbach
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Hm, now I'm having second thoughts on the (now not) unanimous E. Thanks mate!

        1. Shark Team
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Now it's the time that ManUnited's favourable run of fixtures starts and surely this duo will help you a lot climb some overall ranking. Furthermore Mount seems a bargain and he will surely keep his starting spot after today's great performance from him. Pukki won't play against Newcastle every week so I don't rely on him because the most of times much excitement leads to bad performances. KDB is someone everyone wants in their team but in your team I see more important things to do first than to think how to get the Belgian magician. You are welcome.

          1. sirmorbach
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 1 month ago

            You know, this is actually some great, great advise indeed. Thanks! Seriously, it means a lot that you actually took the time to explain your reasoning. You are very right. That settles it.

            Thanks again. Good luck!

  2. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Currently eyeing:

    TAA + Barkley + Perez > Soyuncu + Mount + Son

  3. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Just checked, I’m 25th in the overall FFS standings and 5th in LMS right now 😮

    And that’s before Lundstram got his 14 points today in my starting eleven

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      2nd now - https://www.livefpl.net/LMS

      1. ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Wow, that’s really cool TM!

    2. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Nice one Coach.

  4. Maddi Son
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Bournemouth have Man City this week. Wonder how many will bench Wilson & King for Lundstram lol.

    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Hilarious fella, hilarious.

      1. Maddi Son
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        451097

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Is that your ID?

    2. ElliotJHP
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Haha I already have mate, go on Jonny, Jonny be good (please)

    3. Four Hit Wonder
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I'm benching bloody Gylfi.

      1. Maddi Son
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Haha he'll come good soon I hope.

  5. Sndeshdhkl
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    KDB + jota or kane + mount ???

  6. SoapAFC
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Worth wildcarding? Dreading not owning Sterling for city's run of fixtures..

    Heaton

    Digne - Robbo - KWP

    De Bruyne - Salah - Perez - Pepe - Mcginn

    Auba - King

    1. skybluecam
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure about Perez/Pepe but other than that team looks good

    2. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal have 2 horrible fixtures, surely you don't need 2x Arsenal attack?

      Downgrade Auba, upgrade Pepe?

      1. SoapAFC
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Don't want to get rid of Auba, I believe he is fixture proof, but pepe doesn't look like he's gonna hit 9.5m form anytime soon, let alone start, was thinking of doing salah to mane, some other downgrades and then pepe to sterling

  7. Kane Train
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Which one is better option?

    A) Siggy
    B) Pulisic
    C) Lanzini

    1. andrewe63
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      B-next 3 fixtures..

    2. El-Kloppico
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      B

    3. andrewe63
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Ceballos if you want to generate cash

  8. have you seen cyan
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    get Perez off at start of second half please

    1. VanDijksToWatchOutFor
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Please

  9. Mr Arsenal
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Zouma much better today. May give him another week..

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Kante is providing defensive help today.

  10. Manani
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Ceballos, Kane
    or
    KDB, Pukki

    already have Sterling

    1. Four Hit Wonder
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. swobe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Double City will treat you nicely

  11. seewhyaxe
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    who's the best Chelsea attacking option so far?

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Mount is the clear choice, Pedro always looks good tho

  12. HollywoodXI
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Seriously thinking about pressing the WC button and switching funds from defence to attack based on studying the first two GW’s (form players/best enablers) and reviewing the upcoming fixtures. I appreciate this is very early and if I wait I’ll have more information (something I always encourage others to do) but my gut is telling me this season requires swift action. I have multiple fires to put out: double Liverpool defence, Barkley, Perez, 2 x 4.5m strikers and no Kane for the upcoming fixtures. It just feels right...thoughts?

    1. swobe
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I haven't been considering it but my squad is also weighted heavily to defence and it's looking more and more tempting to WC in order to shift around the funds. So many plum attacking options and the double pool/digne/walker set up I'm rocking is limiting my picking right now.

      1. HollywoodXI
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Same issue. I have Robbo, TAA, Coleman and Zinchenko (and Lloris in goal!)

  13. bitars
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    I am on a WC.

    A. Salah+Walker 0,3 itb

    B. Mane+Laporte 0,8 itb

    Don't need the cash anywhere else right now but its always nice to hav itb for future improvements.

    1. skybluecam
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A

  14. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Have we ever had a season with so many terrible mid midfielder options..

    Nothing at 5-7.5m mark.

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I take it you are not watching Mount.

    2. skybluecam
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Ceballos

      1. Make United Great Again
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        This too.

    3. Siggy in the Middle
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Martial is a good option. So is McGinn. Very little other than that though

    4. Make United Great Again
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Bit of a lottery tbh. I’m looking at Mount going forward if he’s nailed.

    5. Mr Peanutbutter
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      trossard

    6. SADIO SANÉ
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I was thinking the exact opposite earlier, and still am 😀

    7. Manani
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Ceballos, Mount both looks good

    8. Four Hit Wonder
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      It was like that last season too. People were going back and forth between Pedro and Walcott.

      1. Four Hit Wonder
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        That being said, Pedro is 7.0.

    9. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      What are you talking about?

      Loads. Ceballos, Cantwell, Dendoncker, Mount, Martial (before he went up), Lanzini.

    10. Brosstan
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Lanzini, Mount, Ceballos, Moura, Martial... before even trying to think of less obvious picks.

    11. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Worst is the forwards - nothing in the

      1. One More Hit
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        No value in premium defenders based on these two gameweeks. I got 14 points from Lundstram today and 24 from 7 other players.

        Already ditched Robertson. TAA earns a stay of execution as I had other price rises to fight. Ederson letting in one a match as per last season

  15. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    wonder what percentage of owners bench Lundstram, anyone know?

    1. Goat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      69%

      1. Manani
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        nice

        1. Goat
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Nice

    2. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      69.6% according to FPL twitter

    3. Alnair
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      EO - 3.54%
      Teams owned by - 9.19%

  16. skybluecam
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Perez looking anonymous? Him, Barkley and Ake are on their way out of my team I think.

    1. Four Hit Wonder
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Nice team

  17. Make United Great Again
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Leicester look toothless. Bye Perez

    1. Goat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Where is he playing? LiveScore has him midfield

      1. skybluecam
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Sky had him on the left forward of a 433

        1. Goat
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          I want to know from someone watching

      2. Make United Great Again
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Quite a free role tbh. Popping up on the left and right of Vardy

        1. Captain Remorse
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Perez is nowhere. Needs dropping for Demarai Gray

      3. Yank Revolution
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Right winger

      4. swobe
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        definitely looking like a right winger, Maddison behind Vardy. No width on the left for Leicester

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Perez should go off for Albrighton

      5. FC nelo
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Clearly a right winger. Not in front of the goal a lot.

  18. Wild Rover
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Pedro is everywhere

  19. KGFC
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Oh boy, Tielemans is looking like a bad pick 🙁

    1. Hulk Smash
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      He's a wait and see if you have him. He's a very good player.

    2. Make United Great Again
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      All Leicester players are tbh

  20. timawflowers
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Siggy out for ndombele, will be a hit and already have kane?

    1. The_Fish
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      For a hit? Been in the pub this afternoon?

      1. timawflowers
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I wish, or siggy out for son, recon a Newcastle whitewash

    2. Goat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      No silly.

      1. DMP
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        This

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I think Mount or Cabellos are better picks at 6m.

  21. Hulk Smash
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Chelsea look tactically good. Suppressing a very capable Leicester side so far, letting their CBs have the ball but closing down everyone else.

  22. Twisted Saltergater
    • 15 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Which are your preferred 3 for next 6 games?

    1. Salah (ARS, bur, NEW, che, shu, LEI)
    2. Sterling (bou, BHA, nor, WAT, eve, WOL)
    3. Mane (ARS, bur, NEW, che, shu, LEI)
    4. Kane (NEW, ars, CPL, lei, SOU, bha)
    5. KdB (bou, BHA, nor, WAT, eve, WOL)

    1. The_Fish
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      12 for sure

      4 or 5 a toss up.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        thanks fish

    2. Wild Rover
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Sterling, Mane, Son

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Son immediately? Not sure Lamela and Moura will be dropped. We may see Son from the bench.

        1. Wild Rover
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Doubt it, he’s been banned not injured and will be raring to go. My Capt

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 15 Years
            5 years, 1 month ago

            If I play the WC then I'll have him as it stands.

    3. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      2, 4, 5

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Leaning towards this too.

    4. Goat
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I will have 5,4,1 but wish I had 3

      1. Goat
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Answer. 3,4,5

        1. SoapAFC
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          not sterling??

          1. Goat
            • 7 Years
            5 years, 1 month ago

            Not for me. Started the season with KDB instead and happy I did

            1. Twisted Saltergater
              • 15 Years
              5 years, 1 month ago

              I started the season without Sterling as a gamble. I've kept pace by having KdB but I'd have done much better with Sterling + KdB and not Salah. Just look at Man City's next 4 though... how can you go without Sterling?

              1. Business Cat
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                5 years, 1 month ago

                Nice that you can actually say this this week without getting harangued by gobsh%tes bragging about owning (but not captaining mind) a Sterling hattrick.

                Mood music has changed this week for those that went KDB over Sterling 😎

                For what it's worth, I'm going Salah to Sterling as well as KDB for a bit and go without Liverpool attack

                1. Goat
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 1 month ago

                  Same here

              2. Goat
                • 7 Years
                5 years, 1 month ago

                I may transfer him in for salah soon but currently on 50k OR so I can’t complain

        2. Twisted Saltergater
          • 15 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          Is Mane really worth 11.5m? I'm struggling with that. I think I prefer Kane or Aubameyang at that price tbh.

    5. Bushwhacker
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Kane, KbD, Sterling

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks, may go with these 3 plus Son for the Newcastle game.

    6. Cok3y5murf
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      1/3, 2, 5

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Ignoring the premium strikers might be right move. Not sure who appeals cheaper than Lacazette to have alongside Pukki though.

    7. HollywoodXI
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      If I WC this week I’ll have 2,3,4,5 (but no Salah...)

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 15 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I've tried that but it would mean dropping Martial. Would be great to squeeze those 4 in though!

        1. HollywoodXI
          • 10 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          If you go cheap in defence / GK it’s possible with Rashford or Martial included.

  23. Bushwhacker
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Blimey, I take it the Fantasy Football Scout team didn’t bother watching the second half at St. Mary’s yesterday. Liverpool utterly dominated until Adrian’s howler. Worrying that they’ve played 45 minutes of each game thus far though, hoping a full 90 next weekend.

    Lundstram now a must start? Dang.

  24. No Professionals
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Current team

    Pope
    Robbo VVD KWP Kiko
    Dendoncker Salah Sterling Martial Trossard
    Aubameyang

    Button King Rico Greenwood

    Wildcard to?

    Pope
    Laporte VVD AWB Lundstram
    Mane Sterling Martial Son
    Pukki Rashford

    Button cantwell kelly Greenwood

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I’d just transfer out Auba for Kane.

    2. Hulk Smash
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I like your current team and wouldn't be wildcarding it. Only needs Rico and Kiko out, maybe downgrade a LIV defender and swap King for Pukki.

  25. MartialMatas
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Who are people replacing Barkley with? I was thinking of McGinn

    1. Wild Rover
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Mount if they have sense.

    2. The_Fish
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Ceballos

    3. Pukki Blinders
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Kneejerk to Mount

  26. Tsparkes10
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on the Palace Sheff U game today?

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Both poor teams IMO. Sheff Utd won because they had more desire.

    2. sirmorbach
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      I though Sheffield look good. I think I'll insist on Callum for a couple of GWs more.

      1. Tsparkes10
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Hopefully injury isn't too bad. I may look to get rid soon tbh

    3. Brosstan
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      A dire game. Two teams who will be in the relegation battle for sure.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, this

      2. Tsparkes10
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Guess we'll see. Thought we did what we needed to. Kept them quiet and created a decent few chances.

  27. De Gea Van Dijk. 10
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    What a Gw.

  28. Dannyb
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Auba Hayden and Perez to Pukki Mount and KDB/Son for -4? Was gonna lose Auba for Kane but he/they look pretty bad at the moment.

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Kane against Newcastle next week is a no brainer.

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 5 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        sterling is the no brainer, not kane

        1. have you seen cyan
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          sorry thought u saying captain for GW3

    2. No Professionals
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      They just played the best team in Europe.

      I'd be scared not having kane for the Newcastle game, they are atrocious.

  29. Silecro
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    I know this is probably hot topic nowadays, but should i go for fraser > KDB instead of Son even if i have sterling and none tottenham?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Forget Sterling, it's KDB vs Son.

      1. Silecro
        • 6 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Hmm...City's more attacking game vs Son's more advanced position...will probably go with KDB 🙂

        1. Make FPL Casual Again
          • 6 Years
          5 years, 1 month ago

          See if Son goes straight into the side...and if he hits some form, can then switch from KDB if you want

  30. Legohair
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 1 month ago

    Perez&King to Mount&Pukki for free?

    1. Messiah Hazard
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 1 month ago

      Too knee jerky

      1. Wild Rover
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        Of course it’s not

      2. Reedy
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        The striker swap requires extra funds so it looks perfectly reasonable to me.

      3. Eastman
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 1 month ago

        I would consider that