Moving Target

Moving Target – Juan Mata

Manchester United took a major step towards lifting the dark cloud that currently hangs over Old Trafford after sealing the transfer of Juan Mata from Chelsea on Saturday evening. In a club record deal, believed to be in the region of £37 million, the little Spaniard arrives to help transform United’s season after Wednesday’s Capital One Cup exit at the hands of Sunderland heaped further pressure on the under-fire David Moyes.

Understandably, the United boss was delighted to have captured a creative player of Mata’s pedigree and is clearly relishing the prospect of shaping his side around his new signing, suggesting that the Spaniard will be thrown straight in against Cardiff on Tuesday…

“Juan is one of the finest playmakers in the game today and it’s a real pleasure to have secured his signature. He’s been instrumental in Chelsea’s recent success, with a notable 28 assists and 32 goals in his last two Premier League seasons. I have been impressed with the excitement he has shown to be part of the new Manchester United. I know our fans have admired Juan for some time now – he has always played well against us – and I know they will be delighted to see him in the red of United, starting on Tuesday.”

As for Mata, the lure of a move to United is obvious and, having been frustrated by a lack of pitch time under Jose Mourinho at Chelsea, it’s clear that this was a major factor in prompting a move away from the Bridge. When quizzed on his preferred role at United, Mata was quick to point out that his priority, first and foremost, will be to be involved…

“I love to play. I think I can play in the three positions behind the striker. I played on the left when I arrived at Chelsea, this season I have played on the right and last season, which was probably the best season of my career, I played behind the striker. But it doesn’t matter as long as I play.”

The History

A product of the Real Madrid youth system, Mata first played for the club’s B team in 2006/07, scoring 10 times in 39 appearances. Unable to convince his Bernabeu paymasters of his first-team potential, he was snapped up by Valencia the following year and, over the following four seasons, established himself as one of the finest midfield talents in La Liga.

Mata’s time at the Mestalla got off to a tentative start, with five goals and a single assist over 24 appearances in 2007/08. Installed as a regular in the first XI thereafter, he racked up 28 goals and 35 assists over 105 league matches before Chelsea came calling in the summer of 2011, shelling out around £23.5m for the playmaker’s services.

Despite plying his trade under a succession of managers at Stamford Bridge, Mata was an overwhelming success over his first two seasons. His first year at the London club harvested six goals and 13 assists, or 16 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) terms, before he stepped up another level in 2012/13, with 11 goals and 17 assists (18 in FPL), summing up his Fantasy potential.

Under Jose Mourinho, though, Mata has toiled. The Special One has been critical of the Spaniard’s lack of work-rate and has started him in just 11 of Chelsea’s 22 league games so far, with Oscar his favoured option in the “number 10” role. Nonetheless, with 828 minutes to his name thus far, Mata’s impact has been minimal for the Blues – he’s produced just two assists so far this season.

On the international stage, Mata produced eight goals and seven assists from 20 games at youth level for Spain, helping his country win the 2006 European Under-19 Championships and the 2011 European Under-21 Championships . He’s also turned out 31 times for the senior side, returning nine goals and seven assists, and was part of the squad which won the World Cup in 2010 and the European Championships two years later.

The Prospects

Clearly, as the first marquee signing of the Moyes era, Mata looks set to become a key member of the United first-team. The issue, of course, is where he will fit into his new manager’s plans. When Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie are finally free from injury, the trio seem automatic starters, suggesting Mata is set for a role on the wing, with Rooney tucking in behind the Dutchman in a formation more akin to a 4-2-3-1.

As Mata himself has stated, although predominantly left-footed, he’s a player that offers United options on both flanks, though a role on the right as an inverted winger would be a move away from the traditional alternatives such as Nani and Antonio Valencia. Essentially, his arrival leaves a number of players vying for the remaining attacking role. Similarly to the other aforementioned wide men, Shinji Kagawa and Ashley Young have failed to impress since Moyes rolled up to Old Trafford and their game time looks set to be further diminished upon the Spaniard’s arrival.

Despite his recent contribution of six goals in as many Gameweeks, there’s no doubt Danny Welbeck will struggle to retain a regular starting berth once the injuries clear, whilst Mata’s arrival may also be detrimental for Adnan Januzaj’s minutes. Moyes has been wary of relying too much on the youngster in his debut season but has been almost forced to start Januzaj in seven of the last eight Gameweeks – with Mata on board, Moyes may look to ease the burden on the teenage prodigy. It’s also worth noting that Mata is cup tied for United’s Champions League campaign, surely ensuring his league starts and therefore giving Moyes the opportunity to use his other wide options on the European stage.

Now down to 9.4 in FPL (9.0 in the Sky Sports game and 7.0 in the Sun Dream Team), Mata’s move to United is set to reignite his Fantasy potential after slipping from our radars. An ownership of 3% highlights his differential appeal ahead of games against Cardiff, Stoke, Fulham and Palace in the next five and, if Rooney and van Persie remain on the sidelines, he’s likely to be handed set-pieces and corners as Moyes looks to the Spaniard’s creativity to help rescue his disappointing debut season at the helm.

While Mata clearly has huge Fantasy appeal, there’s little doubt that there is fierce competition in his price bracket with Eden Hazard, Mesut Ozil and Santi Cazorla and the City pair of Yaya Toure and David Silva all vying for slots in our midfield.

As mentioned, Mata offers significant differential appeal – a big factor for those looking to make up ground with their January Wildcard moves. Having said that, both Cazorla and Silva also meet this criteria: the Arsenal man boasts FPL ownership of just 2.8%, while City’s playmaker has lived in the shadow of Toure this season and can be found in just 5.8% of FPL squads. While Mata arrives to slot into an ailing United, struggling to kill off teams, both Cazorla and Silva are part of free-scoring sides, oozing confidence.

Mata certainly has the talent to change the current landscape. United will likely be revived by his presence but it could take the return of both Rooney and Van Persie before we can really assess the full potential that Mata can offer. In the short-term, then, that may well see the majority steer clear, assess his initial form and settle on more assured assets. That will leave early adopters hoping that Mata’s impact is immediate and that his early returns are on a par with his outstanding spells in the blue of Chelsea.

Further Reference

Juan Mata Wikipedia

Juan Mata Statistics

Juan Mata YouTube 2012/13 Highlights

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2,146 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Piggs Boson
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    Where's Nocerino going to play for West Ham? (I never thought I'd say that sentence 😯 )

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      can see him taking diame's place

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    2. isacki: full casual
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      Central midfield surely which is his natural position, would guess alongside Noble in a midfield three.

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Nocerino Noble
        ------- Nolan

        perhaps

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        1. Piggs Boson
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          Damn, I was hoping he'd displace Nolan.

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            Who knows really. Dunno if he's still thinking along the lines of Nolan feeding off Carroll's knockdowns

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        2. FPL Daniel
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          If Nolan is nailed on I am willing to punt on him

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            Think another guy with a Kolarov grav was thinking the same. I'm just not sure how much to make of the Carroll assist advantage, although apparently Nolan got a hattrick off three Carroll assists in GW38 last season...

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            1. isacki: full casual
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              Hmmm just checked that and not true. Carroll got two assists, one to Nolan. Nolan's other two assists came from Noble and Maiga

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        3. Nice1Cyrille
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          The three No's!

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            I think the universe is trying to say something

            No No No

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    3. applebonkers
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      one of the middle 3, suggests ravel is off imo, or he's just finally sick of nolan

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  2. Mr.K
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    I wildcarded and am currently at

    Mannone - Davis
    Coleman - Ward - Bardsley - Shaw - Bertrand
    Hazard - Johnson - Silva - Noone - Mata
    JRod - Aguero - Suarez

    The problem is that I need to get money for Marshall (to replace Davis, of course) so...

    Should I simply swap Coleman -> Koscielny? In that case, what do you think of Silva -> Cazorla as well?

    Or should I downgrade two of the cheap defenders into even cheaper ones and keep Coleman (and potentially swap Silva -> Cazorla as well)

    My original idea was to play Coleman - Kos - Shaw at defense and Hazard - Cazorla - Toure - Lallana/Eriksen in Midfield but then I felt the need to stuff Mata in somehow...

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      why were wildrover and wakey mocking the guy talking about cabaye to united. not that far-fetched

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      1. Somalion
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        All I can say is people mocked the Mata talk too.

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    2. FACUPARSE
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      Not gonna happen

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      1. FACUPARSE
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        Fellaini £32m

        Mata £37m

        Cabaye £25m

        United can't afford that

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        1. Somalion
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          They bid over 100 million for Bale...

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          1. FACUPARSE
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            😆 ok then

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            1. Heydudes13
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              They actually did!

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              1. FACUPARSE
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                Gullible much??

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                1. Heydudes13
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                  Sit down.

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              1. isacki: full casual
                • 13 Years
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                Shit. How was this not bigger news back in December

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                1. Somalion
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                  I thought it had been big news!

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          2. Somalion
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            Euro, think it was bang on £100 mill?

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            1. FACUPARSE
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              dream land

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            2. Wilshere Knowledge
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              They didnt.

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              1. Somalion
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                See above.

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                1. Wilshere Knowledge
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                  Theyre newspapers, they make shit up.

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                  1. Somalion
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                    Ah like the Mata talk.

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                    1. Wilshere Knowledge
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                      Youre right, all newspapers deal in nothing but fact.

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                      1. Somalion
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                        Not saying that but up until a few days ago the Mata talk was nothing but nonsense made up by the papers.

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                2. FACUPARSE
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                  no quotes from anyone.. and this came out while Moyes was under pressure.

                  wally

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                  1. isacki: full casual
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                    "No quotes".

                    Look harder 😆

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                  2. Heydudes13
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                    There are quotes actually, good grief. See what you want to see I guess.

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                  3. Somalion
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                    Perez told Cadena SER radio: 'Bale has come cheaply. Signing the best players out there is Madrid's philosophy and Bale was the best available player on the market this summer. We had been following him for two years.
                    'Tottenham did not want to sell. We learned that Manchester United had made an offer and we made one ourselves.'
                    Key to Bale's switch to Madrid was the fact he would be fulfilling his boyhood dream, Perez saying: 'Since childhood he had had the dream of playing for Real Madrid and he asked us to make it possible for him to come.'

                    There's a quote for you.

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                  4. FACUPARSE
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                    Sorry I forgot Perez the chairman of Madrid confirmed this...

                    😆

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                    1. Somalion
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                      I know I mean how could someone like him have any knowledge on the matter. Not nearly as reliable as Gary from down the pub.

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                      1. sinik
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                        give up Soma, Toparse is a top arse

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        2. Kylos
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          Mata and Cabaye are worth that near enough. Difference was Fellaini wasn't worth it, and will never get to play in his preferred position.

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        3. sinik
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          yes we can. we can afford any player in the world, the Glazers have just been tight in the past.

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      2. Somalion
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        Heard this during the Mata speculation too :low:

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        1. Somalion
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          *:lol:

          F***ing autocorrect is the bane of my life.

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            😆

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    3. Dr Dream
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      We didn't mock the move just the Imagineering about how they were setting about getting him..mainly the bit about doing it under the radar so not as to alert PSG....Cabaye will go for sure, hopefully in the summer.

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  3. Theseus
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    Oscar scores in the cup... i have him in my fpl team. Watch him blank against Wham again...

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  4. Del Monte
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    Whats the likelihood of the Sunderland DGW to be before GW28?

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    2. BantamPhil
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      It is possible as neither team plays in Europe

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  5. PlayPercentage
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    Any sightings of Negredo. Will he be back for Wednesday?

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    1. Jimmers
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      Unlikely

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  6. BobB
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    If you analyse the stats, the big difference is game time. Will Mourinho start to give Oscar as many minutes as Haz? If so, he could run him close for output and free up money for another premium mid

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      When the CL is back, Oscar will be more at risk than Hazard - and if he is rested, it's likely to be in the easier games where he would pick his points up if he started.

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    1. Canadian Football
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      It does wonders....try it if on wc

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  7. BantamPhil
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    Honest opinions

    Is Hazard worth 1.7m more than Oscar?

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    1. BobB
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      He has been, but only due to game time. Will that change?

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    2. applebonkers
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      yep

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    3. Heydudes13
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      Yes. Most here including me bought Hazard for cheaper weeks ago.

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    4. Canadian Football
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      If you think that the point differential between the two will be equal to the first half season, then ask, over the remaining matches, can I spend that 1.7m elsewhere to make up the 30 odd points.

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    5. BantamPhil
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      Thanks all I think I'll get Hazard for now but might downgrade to Oscar if Mata hits form

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    6. Caine & Co.
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      yes

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    7. The ginger cafu
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      Yes!

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  8. Heydudes13
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    Why did Nocerino sign for West Ham? Out of favour?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      good player. Suprised he has gone there

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      1. Heydudes13
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        Same. Can't think why he would leave.

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        1. applebonkers
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          allegri leaving was the nail in the coffin i think

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          1. Heydudes13
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            Ah right.

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    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      wanted to play for big sam

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      1. Wings Fan
        • 11 Years
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        This. Hoping he can go with him when Big Sam gets the Real Madrid job.

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    3. applebonkers
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      yes

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    4. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
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      It's only on loan. Probably so he can get games against top opposition. WC coming up.

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  9. EssienTheSon
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Considering Ozil to Oscar and double up on Chelsea against West Ham (already have Hazard).

    Anyone on the same boat?

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    1. Elniñorules
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      Had them both since 2 gws back...

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    2. The ginger cafu
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      Sounds smart in the short term

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  10. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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    chiles wants zola's d

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  11. A.T
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    Jermaine pennant is a free agent. It would be good if some team in the prem gave him a contract and he started scoring goals. He's only 4.1.

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    1. Somalion
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Arsenal should snap him up.

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Southampton should sign him so Osvaldo has someone to fight.

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    3. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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      Surprised United haven't gone for him, after breaking the bank for Mata.

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      1. sinik
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        • 11 Years
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        United's bank can't be broken, it's just it's usually triple padlocked

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  12. Bob.
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    Why didnt Oscar do this in the prem! Hopefully he can keep up the goal scoring form. Keeping him as a differential over Hazard. Risky but I am far behind in the rankings

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  13. FPL Daniel
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    That goal was marvelous. Supeeerrr Oscaaarrrr babyyyyyy!

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    1. Elniñorules
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Juan Mata who?

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      1. Heydudes13
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        10 years, 9 months ago

        Chelsea POTY x2.

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  14. dodger49
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Any real benefit in waiting until last GW for WC? Transfer window yes but some players I want to bring in are getting more expensive by the day

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    1. Jimmers
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      Bit late to make that decision now.

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    2. Elniñorules
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      • 13 Years
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      There'll be a couple of big movements and other transfers which may impact budget players / bring forward bargains (Siggy)

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  15. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    RMCT for now 🙂

    Mannone Boruc
    Coleman Bardsley Vlaar Ward Bruce
    Yaya Oscar Mata Cabaye Noone
    J Rod Suarez Aguero

    Amended by putting oscar instead of hazard and mata instead of januzaj

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    1. Heydudes13
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not a bad team. Must be a bit light on TV with only one big boy at the back. Could do better than JRod upfront too. Nice midfield.

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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        J rod is ok I think for after arsenal, good fixtures and southampton push forward alot

        Defence is a worry 🙁 I know but my tv is poor

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    2. Arctic monkeys
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Risky to go without Arsenal Cover , Defence need work imo

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  16. Mojo Rojo
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    Damn casuals! Need Ramsey to drop to 7.0 before GW24 in order to do Chester & Wilshere > Bruce & Ramsey... May have to settle for Faye 🙁

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  17. Milk, 1 Šuker
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Considering Aguero/Sturridge/Bony whilst dropping Suarez. Experimental as I'm on WC. Good punt?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not if you're gonna lose loads of money on Suarez.

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      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
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        10 years, 9 months ago

        Mmm. Will have a think

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 13 Years
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      You're asking if selling Suarez is a good punt?

      I wouldn't advise it. Surely there are other punts you dabble in.

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      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
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        • 12 Years
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        Current front three is Aguero, Suarez and JRod, which I'm quite happy with to be honest. Just being idle!

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    3. Cheers Kane, Sons Crying
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yes! Exactly same front 3 as I am thinking!

      I am torn between having Eto'o as a punt for a couple of GWs though over Aguero!

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      1. Cheers Kane, Sons Crying
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        Have a look at this link from a few pages back.

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/6632382

        They didnt like my idea!

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        1. Brouhaha
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          yeah get of rid of Suarez, he's rubbish and won't make you hardly any points. stick with Etoo.

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          1. Cheers Kane, Sons Crying
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            10 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks, I really appreciate your opinion, I think that was a great reply, and I'm 100% going to do it now, thanks for giving me the confidence.

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      2. Milk, 1 Šuker
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        • 12 Years
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        Yeah, I saw. Sometimes it's good to be different. You make some valid points.

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    4. Caine & Co.
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      madness to lose suarez

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  18. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    errm why is lalana going down , have i missed something....?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Didn't score last GW. Simple as that.

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        the mind boggles

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    2. applebonkers
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      cabaye i assume, same price, massively different scores last gw

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 13 Years
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        oh well, im holding...great fixtures, great player in an attackin side.......was just worried id missed injury news

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        1. MJ6987
          • 14 Years
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          Sometimes I wish prices didn't change. Doesn't encourage any sort of patience.

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        2. applebonkers
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          nah he's fine, set-up the 2nd goal yesterday

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      2. MJ6987
        • 14 Years
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        Yeah, and that.

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    3. Dr Dream
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      Cabaye..and then he'll fall through the floor if he blanks this week and Ramsey returns.

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  19. Wild Rover
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    Chelsea completed Salah deal, BR was saying only a few hours ago they were still hopeful 🙂

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    1. Mojo Rojo
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      Has he passed his medical?

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      1. Wild Rover
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        Mourinho says deal completed so you would assume so

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      2. Deulo10
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, apparently it has been completed yesterday in Paris.

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    2. MJ6987
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I hate Liverpool but I can't understand why he went to Chelsea. He will just be on the bench most of the time with Shurlle. At Liverpool he would have played every game.

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      1. applebonkers
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        this, so much this. de bruyne and schurrle should have scared him off

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        1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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          De Bruyne was sold to Woflsburg.

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          1. Wild Rover
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            😀 I think he knows that

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            1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah I read into it wrong. Oh well. Salah will get his chance. Schurrle has had plenty of chances, and hasn't come up with the goods. If De Bruyne can get 9 games, I'm sure Salah will do better than that.

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          2. applebonkers
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            • 15 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            yeah i meant their struggles to get a game even before willian established himself should have made salah more hesitant

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      2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        chelsea probably threw more money at him if i was being cynical.....well hell have to learn the hard way........ out on loan

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      3. Deulo10
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Exactly. It's so annoying to see a great talent being wasted like that.

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      4. applebonkers
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        if egypt were in the world cup it blatantly wouldn't have happened, or at least they would have waited until the summer.
        a caveat with the above, you could argue mata, de bruyne and schurrle weren't mourinho signings

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Willian over Mata would have given him a boost.

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  20. El Reagano
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Assuming Cabaye goes to a foreign club or MUFC (where he'll play a deeper role ie no goals or assists) who would be the proper replacement? Already got Lallana,Hazard, Mata and Noone in my team.

    So hypothetically who could replace Cabaye?
    Eriksen or Johnson?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, one of those two.

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    2. Deulo10
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Eriksen

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    3. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mirallas!

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      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        +1

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    4. Dr Dream
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      or Ramsey.

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      1. El Reagano
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Oh yeah another good option. But any idea when he's going to return? wasn't on the bench for the fa cup.

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  21. reece
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Flanagan or Kelly for nailed on liverpool right/left back?

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Quite possibly both short term, hence not expecting many cs's

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      More likely Flanagan.

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  22. #Swish41
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Do people fancy for 4th and 5th mids:

    A) Mata + Puncheon

    or

    B) Erikson + Januzaj

    Other 6 front who are nailed on for me are:

    Yaya Hazard Cabaye
    Suarez Bony Aguero

    Cheers

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    1. Wings Fan
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A, not even close.

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    2. Ross Geller
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A for sure

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  23. Bergkamp Wonderland
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    If this was your WC team, what would you do differently?

    Mannone Marshall

    Mertesacker Coleman Cahill (Bertrand Ward)

    Hazard Cabaye Eriksen Mata (Gnabry)

    Aguero Suarez Adebayor

    Looking at Eriksen to Ramsey when he's back fit for Arsenal attacking coverage.

    Any thoughts appreciated, thanks

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    1. GreennRed
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not much rather than downgrade Cahill to Azpilicueta so you can upgrade Marshall to Boruc.

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      1. Cheers Kane, Sons Crying
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        This

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      2. Bergkamp Wonderland
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Is Azpi nailed on though? Boruc would be nice to squeeze in but rather have a Chelsea starter than a rotating keeper. Got me thinking though, thanks

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        1. GreennRed
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Mourinho prefers, him to Cole who's gonna be sold this summer. Might be a bit of rotation around CL games.

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    2. Nice1Cyrille
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      That looks pretty decent tbh!

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    3. Canadian Football
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Like it. Perhaps ade to bony

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  24. FACUPARSE
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone believe Man U made a 100m bid for Bale before he went to Madrid?

    Some real wally fans around these sites

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, they tried to keep it under the radar in case Madrid found out 😉

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    2. isacki: full casual
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I agree with Toparse's logic, if he says it's unlikely it never happened. Give that man a medal.

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        If the Real Madrid president said it happened it must have done.

        What did the Barca president just do??

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Do you need a shovel?

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          1. FACUPARSE
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Blinded

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          2. Cheers Kane, Sons Crying
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Toparse really does his name justice.

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        2. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Ash I see, because they're the exact same person and this is the exact same situation. Point proven, well done.

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      2. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Youre making the claim and therefore have the burden of proof. There is no evidence there was even a bid, let alone a 100m bid. The only sources there are are spurious bewspapers who link 20 new players every day.

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        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          And the Real president talking about the United bid.

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          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            He doesnt say it was a 100m bid, it might have been a bargaining tactic by Spurs (im sure Man U werent talking with Madrid), it might have been Perez justifying such a ludacrus sum being paid, he might have just believed what the papers were saying. the fact is that we will never know, but people proclaiming it as fact is stupid.

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            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              £60 million had been offered previously by United, they were only going to increase it. Don't believe Spurs would jeopardise a deal by lying to Real over it, not for that sum of money. The entire point is that United, contrary to what has been said, have money available.

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            2. isacki: full casual
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              People proclaiming it as definitely untrue are too.

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    3. Heydudes13
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      You were too lazy to read the articles and now you've made yourself look even more of a 'Wally'. Stop digging yourself deeper.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Dont be moody just because youve lost danny Lopez again

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          🙁

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    4. GreennRed
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Who cares?

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      1. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        well said

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    5. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Just trying to follow the fine example you set.

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    6. Frank Black
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, they actually did. An italian insider for skysports italy spent a whole night talking about it back in the summer.

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  25. aehii
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Will Oscar play vs west ham with man city away soon after?

    Yeah he could come on and score like last time...

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      City only on Monday*

      *if we win or lose today

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    2. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      you've got me a little worried now. assume the following scale will apply:

      1 full day between matches: PANIC
      2 full days between matches: couple of changes
      3 full days between matches: no need for changes

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  26. BruLee
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Marshall/Mannone
    Ward/Azpi/Kos/Bennet/Fabio
    Mata/Noone/Gerrard/Oscar/Cabaye
    Aguero/Bony/Suarez

    What do you guys think?

    0.0 in the bank, team value sucks, blow me...

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  27. Milk, 1 Šuker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Who has the tougher game this GW do you think - Mirallas or Cabaye?

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    1. Cheers Kane, Sons Crying
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mirallas

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      1. Milk, 1 Šuker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Might get him in next GW then

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  28. copps
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    If Mata is worth £40m, what's Oscar worth, £60m? he is only 22 even.

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    1. aehii
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Oscar has not yet matched Mata's stats over a season though.

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    2. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Based on what? Mata had 20 goals and 28 assists last season. Oscar isn't worth 40m yet.

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    3. bazrah99
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I would say £25-30m

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  29. Courtois in the Rye
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Which three would you play out of Terry Ward Kos Baines Williams?

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    1. Milk, 1 Šuker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      First 3

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    2. Cheers Kane, Sons Crying
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Terry Ward Williams

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