Saturday’s Dugout Dicussion

by Mark on February 6

We begin the gameweek early with Anfield hosting the Merseyside derby before the three o’clocks takeover with all eyes on Old Trafford where Wayne Rooney could make or break our fantasy football weekends.

Early team news from Anfield finds Rafa starting with Agger, Lucas and Maxi Rodriguez. Skrtel, Riera and Aquilani make way for those changes. As for Everton, Moyes brings in Distin for Senderos in their only change.

Throughout that game and Rooney’s possible demolition of Portsmouth, you can share your pain or joy in our live chatroom. Today’s Dugout Discussion is now open.

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GinjaWhinja February 6 at 5:03 pm

Arrgggh why bring Tuncay on? I had Hughes 1st sub!!

thewhitemidget February 6 at 5:07 pm

Had hughes first sub as well only for petrov to come off the bench grrr!

Gforce February 6 at 5:07 pm

FFS!!!!! Every time I bring in a City player they turn to muck!!!!!! Where the hell is Tevez gone????????

haxman February 6 at 5:09 pm

Into Adebayor’s pocket.

Qubit February 6 at 5:29 pm

possibly, it was always my fear. seems justified. howeve a glance at the chalkboard indicates that tevez had 3 shots in the area, 2 on target and 1 blocked. Would still expect him to get something from the double. as im moving him on immediately afterwards ill stick with him, their fixtures can’t justify a swap for adebayor

T. February 6 at 5:08 pm

anyone see united match to confirm tht roney should get an assist?

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:11 pm

Rooney should get the assist if anyone should get it. Watched the game on telly, and late stream over internet.

100% sure it should never be any kind of assist cuz Berbatov touched the ball over 10 times, and it even touched Pompey defender a couple of times.

norwegianviking February 6 at 5:15 pm

Berbatov could have made 100 touches, Rooney gave the pass. And Rooney passed to Carrick to, 1 Rooney assist would be fair.

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:17 pm

Yeah, I know. But even when he passed the bal to Carrick, someone deflected it tho (if I remember right).

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:22 pm

Hang on a minute. Five assists have been given on the FPL site. Does that mean that one should have been given to Rooney instead of one of the other players? It’s not like only four assists have been dished out and the Rooney one didn’t count at all.

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:25 pm

Actually yes. That one given to Evans should be assigned to Rooney.

norwegianviking February 6 at 5:25 pm

Do your duty – complain to support@mail.fantasy.premierleague.com as I’ve allready have ;)

MFaulkner February 6 at 5:28 pm

relax. They’re only working with what the press association gives them.

When they get the chance to actually see the game, it’ll get changed.

norwegianviking February 6 at 5:33 pm

I will probably get kicked out of the game because of spamming :)

norwegianviking February 6 at 5:23 pm

I could not see a deflection, but difficult to tell because of camera angle and the fact that I have Rooney as captain…. However I’ve seen assists been given for less, they gave an assist to Van Persie on Fabregas goal early in the season that he deserved far less than Rooney on the Berbatov goal – and we both have him as captain so we should not argue about. We deserve 2 assists just for not faking out with all these Rooney not starting speculations!

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:26 pm

Well, I would very much like that Rooney get 2 assists, but I’m afraid it’s not possible. But they should give him that one when Berbatov scored.

RoysBrotherJohnson February 6 at 5:24 pm

shitetalk. touched pompey defender, no assist. fair shmair

mar February 6 at 5:27 pm

shitetalk from rbj

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:29 pm

Yeah, but RBJ, five assists have been given. If it was only four then clearly one would have been disallowed due to a defenders touch etc, however, FPL is regarding all assists at Old Trafford today to be legitimate. The question is not ‘Was it an assist or not?’, but ‘Have the assists been given to the right players?’

norwegianviking February 6 at 5:32 pm

But what about the pass to Carrick? If any should be given an assist it should be Rooney.

mar February 6 at 5:39 pm

that goal was given as an og therefore carrick will get the assist

Vlad February 6 at 5:42 pm

Carrick’s goal is currently an own goal => no scorer, Carrick – assist

mar February 6 at 5:33 pm

that assist for the berba goal was given to johnny evans!!

RoysBrotherJohnson February 6 at 5:34 pm

fair enuf DA, but that berb one hit pompey defenders im almost positive…

Mar, ur a tit, a royal one.

mar February 6 at 5:37 pm

it bounced off pompey defenders but dint come out of berbas control. ur always talkin shite rbj, dont take it out on me when u get found out!

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:37 pm

Hey RBJ, are you not tempted to get Defoe back after his three goals in midweek? :D

RoysBrotherJohnson February 6 at 5:40 pm

no sir..mar, read the rules, if it hits opposition, unless its a shot, it aint an assist you FUC KING MUPPET.

No DA :-)

mar February 6 at 5:42 pm

so why was lennons given a few weeks back u c**k junkie!!?

RoysBrotherJohnson February 6 at 5:42 pm

hush up Mar.noones interested.

mar February 6 at 5:44 pm

yeh thought so pal u dont have a clue what ur on about! stick to trying to be funny

RoysBrotherJohnson February 6 at 5:47 pm

you thought noone was interested? why you writing then you tit?

westlife2005 February 6 at 5:08 pm

Thanks to everyone who told me not to transfer Nani in! I’m at 40 points so far this week – still have four players left to play :-D

T. February 6 at 5:12 pm

thanks, it doesnt sound too hopeful :-(

westlife2005 February 6 at 5:19 pm

40 points with 4 players left to play is hopeful for me :) After a disastrous week last week!

SuperDorrans February 6 at 5:09 pm

From now on, I’m only going to bring on players who are definitely going to play, had a choice out of Etherington and Tuncay, guess which one I chose. =/

Akers February 6 at 5:12 pm

Etherington?

Alan Partridge February 6 at 5:22 pm

Akers how come you left the scout contributors league?

hooi1983 February 6 at 5:13 pm

NZogbia will miss next game?

jimnastics February 6 at 5:13 pm

Not unless he got booked 6 times today…

haxman February 6 at 5:14 pm

Why?

hooi1983 February 6 at 5:17 pm

thanks for the answer
if he able to play on next game then i will buy him

athtrasna February 6 at 5:14 pm

Who should i bring in for Valencia lads??

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:19 pm

Someone who plays twice next gw.

IMO best options are: N’Zogbia,Etherington and maybe Taylor. (too much risk rotation players at City)

threeputt February 6 at 5:24 pm

but united have a DGW week ater – why ditch him now ?

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:28 pm

Well it’s tricky. Cuz having 3 Utd players would mean you have to bench all 3 of them next GW…or bench 2 and sell one….

threeputt February 6 at 5:34 pm

true, i think 2 is a good number for the dgw

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:29 pm

And forgot that Valencia is now at risk rotation, especially now with CL coming on.

haxman February 6 at 5:15 pm

Was going to captain Tevez for the dgw, not so sure now.

Adebayor’s return has really messed things up.

MFaulkner February 6 at 5:16 pm

N’Zogbia or Fabregas for me – most likely the former.

Tevez isn’t looking too hot right now.

haxman February 6 at 5:18 pm

And City have some really ugly fixtures after next week. Won’t be stocking up on their players.

Don Corleone February 6 at 5:20 pm

True. But I’ll still stick with Tevez for one more gw tho. Worth the risk in my book.

SuperDorrans February 6 at 5:19 pm

Wasn’t going to make a transfer this week and save it for after the DGW but Adebayor in for Tevez seems very tempting.

manu4life99 February 6 at 5:20 pm

anyone see rodallega play today? worth bringing in?

liamolaighin February 6 at 5:21 pm

Does stephen hunt not get an assist from a corner???

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:24 pm

Depends if it went directly onto someone’s noggin. If it touched anyone else first then no.

Aries21 February 6 at 5:22 pm

So if Rooney is to get these assists, when would it happen, tonight at update?

MFaulkner February 6 at 5:24 pm

Maybe. More likely tomorrow though.

ggm1982 February 6 at 5:24 pm

Would have happened by now i reckon.

Aries21 February 6 at 5:24 pm

;_;

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:26 pm

No, Lennon wasn’t given an assist in the West Ham (H) match, and I woke up the next day to see that his score had jumped from 6 to 9 points.

Aries21 February 6 at 5:28 pm

Ah, that’s promising news. I remember they took a while with Evra’s a few weeks back.

Andy February 6 at 5:31 pm

Assists are sourced “live” by the press association, who provide the the live text that the BBC get for each game.

FPL then review these within roughly 24 hours. Whatever it is at the end of the games tomorrow should be the definitive word.

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:34 pm

The last thing we want though is the BP’s being allocated to players before the assists have been corrected, (which unfortunately will happen). For instance, with Rooney scoring one goal and playing 65 minutes, I can see him getting 1 or 0 BP’s. If he has a goal and an assist, the judges may give him 2 or 3 BP’s.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 5:37 pm

Yeah following the double it looks dodgy, but, I just have a sneaking suspicion Bellamy’s spot is under threat after a pretty dreadful display today. Mancini will need to look like he reacts decisively to that awful performance and I need to find a replacement for Pienaar anyway that’s for sure.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 5:37 pm

Whoops – wrong reply button.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 5:23 pm

Interesting quote from mancini on BBC – “When we brought on Patrick Vieira and Adam Johnson, the game changed. If we play like we did in the second half, we can arrive in the top four”

Johnson is worth a punt for the double imo.

Andy February 6 at 5:29 pm

Man City have way too many midfielders to make a solid choice that any one of them will be playing both DGW matches, and with a tricky set of fixtures to follow I won’t be going near them myself.

Tevez, Ade maybe Given or no-one.

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:36 pm

Yes, I think that City’s good run over December and January, (where Tevez ran riot), now means that they don’t have many good fixtures left as they’ve used most of them up.

Shahriyar February 6 at 5:23 pm

i’m hearing that the cross for the fifth united goal touched the head of nani

mar February 6 at 5:28 pm

it did seem to shave his hair

Vlad February 6 at 5:37 pm

yes, it did, but very slightly. It’s not quite clear who should get this assist. I would say Nani, but I’m not sure the FPL will have the same opinion.

Yankee February 6 at 5:27 pm

Morning all! I brought Cahill for 4 point hit then see he didn’t play ..any news why?

Aries21 February 6 at 5:30 pm

No clue either, dude. I had him all set for a cleanie too and now I am left with Ballack coming on instead… had bad luck with bench recently…

Bouncebackability February 6 at 5:32 pm

Injured. But don’t know how or extent as yet.

SuperDorrans February 6 at 5:31 pm

Everyone still going to captain Tevez for the double?

MFaulkner February 6 at 5:33 pm

Noooooo-ohoho. Ohhhh no.

SuperDorrans February 6 at 5:36 pm

Save it then? Already have 6 DGW players.

MFaulkner February 6 at 5:38 pm

:???:

threeputt February 6 at 5:38 pm

??

Vlad February 6 at 5:32 pm

About assists…
I think that assist given to Evra should be given to Nani, as he touched the ball and changed its direction a little bit, that may have disoriented the Pompey defender.
Rooney shouldn’t get any assits IMHO. In the case of Carrick’s goal, it seems to be the Pompey who passed the ball to Carrick (however, it’s not clear from the video). In the case of Berba’s goal, the Pompey defender touched the ball two times but failed to kick it far away, so Berba didn’t lose it.

manu4life99 February 6 at 5:35 pm

out of the dgwers who would you pick as the best choices?

i have petrov and tuncay but considering transferring one out (petrov) for nzogbia

dogtanion February 6 at 5:37 pm

god,my team is an absolute car crash. im getting dangerously pissed tonight. if i find out that lucas once again gets bp over stevie g, i may vomit in a girls handbag and say “keep the change love.”

threeputt February 6 at 5:41 pm

try linking your team so that we can agree with you

thewhitemidget February 6 at 5:42 pm

I think you should do that anyway!!

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:41 pm

It looks like the poll was spot on again with Rooney starting and being subbed around the hour mark.

Can we have loads more polls like this as they really help with your decisions as the polls rarely seem to be wrong with all the people on this site ‘pooling’ their knowledge together to come up with an answer.

A Sorensen or Hart poll would be great for this week!

threeputt February 6 at 5:45 pm

i bet SAF seriously thought about benching him tho and bringing him on if things werent going well, hes done it before

Alan Partridge February 6 at 5:49 pm

When?

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:49 pm

Yeah, I’m sure he thought about it but at the end of the day he knows that each game is still worth the same 3 points and they’re behind Chelsea and every game counts big time for them if they’re to make up the gap. With Berbatov and Owen misfiring big time this season, he can’t quite trust those two to start and win the game without having to involve Rooney yet.

BonZ February 6 at 5:53 pm

Rooney would be fuming….SAF needs to keep him happy.

Andy February 6 at 6:02 pm

That’s the answer I gave…

Just another chapter in the long saga that is Andy & Wayne Rooney, I’m sure there will be a few more to come this season.

Aj February 6 at 6:42 pm

but yesterday u had a plan to bring in rooney …isnt it ?

hooi1983 February 6 at 5:43 pm

Fabs, Kuyt and Bent, pick 2

MFaulkner February 6 at 5:45 pm

to do what?

hooi1983 February 6 at 5:49 pm

for next GW

MFaulkner February 6 at 5:50 pm

Fab & Bent obv.

hooi1983 February 6 at 5:52 pm

thanks
but Kuyt recently on form…
hard to decide

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 6:01 pm

Bent is shite. His good run is over.

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 6:11 pm

I’ve already cashed in on Bent and upgraded to Drogba, a much more consistent player who has the wow factor.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 6:48 pm

Do you get an extra 2 points for wow factor? Have I missed something?

MFaulkner February 6 at 6:53 pm

:lol:

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 5:50 pm

Kicking myself for following the Scout picks and starting Olsson instead of Hughes, my initial inclination. Who is a good player to replace Pienaar? I already have Duff and NZogbia. Am thinking Etherington with the double coming up.

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:50 pm

I have to choose one out of Evra, A Cole and Steinsson (Double game), for next week. Who do I play as I haven’t a clue!

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 5:51 pm

Dunne is already the front runner for the 3 bps.

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 5:52 pm

Yeah, he’s launched the ball clear twice now!

breakdancingindian February 6 at 5:54 pm

Modric seems up for it as usual. Always worth a punt when it comes down to BPs.

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 6:12 pm

Lescott couldn’t hold Dunne’s sack.

bantamdave February 6 at 5:54 pm

i am looking at Zamora -> Ade and Valencia to Ethrington/lee/mcCarthy. Problem is I will have an midfield of Modric ( at Wolves) Duff (burnley home) Ethrington or whom ever, Fab (home to Liverpool) Lamps (at Everton) and a forward line of Tevez, Ade and Rooney(at Villa).

Who the flipping eck shall i bench from those 8????

BonZ February 6 at 5:59 pm

bench Fab – Pool not conceeding many at the minute. play the other 7 with 3 defs.

bantamdave February 6 at 6:00 pm

But Fab on the bench…it seems criminal!!

MFaulkner February 6 at 6:06 pm

That’s nutty. Remove those red coloured spectacles.

manu4life99 February 6 at 5:55 pm

nzogbia IN petrov OUT
OR
rodallega IN zamora OUT

rambo123mop February 6 at 6:03 pm

petrov out

Farva February 6 at 6:36 pm

Zamora obviously. Why get rid of a DGW player, even if he doesn’t play the full 180. Besides Bobby has that dislocated shoulder thingy for which he didn’t have an operation.

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 6:04 pm

People should have known Ade would steal some of Tevez’s thunder when he came back.

DeathAngel2323 February 6 at 6:46 pm

Don’t you mean all of his thunder?

rambo123mop February 6 at 6:04 pm

any1 no y zamora didnt play?

manu4life99 February 6 at 6:07 pm

illness

BonZ February 6 at 6:10 pm

realisation that he is Shat…….c’mon av seen him play???? Talk of England call up cos he’d scored 6 goals in two seasons?!

MFaulkner February 6 at 6:14 pm

Zamora is one of those players, like Lucas & Bendtner, who people diss in a blinkered manner.

They don’t score, or miss a good chance, and someone goes “oooh they’re crap” and it snowballs until they’re renowned as donkeys.

None are bad players, it’s just ‘cool’ to put them down, so people who haven’t seen them play subsequently believe the hype.

Dick Fran Dyke February 6 at 6:45 pm

Good post MF – but Lucas is a tiny bit shit

Jamsiep February 6 at 6:46 pm

Hmm… Lucas was the best player on the pitch today.

(ab) February 6 at 9:03 pm

lucas won player of the year in brazil when he was like 18 or 19. i don’t care how poor the brazilian league is but you don’t do this if you’re not a talented player. funny that he also plays for brazil. hmmm but maybe dunga knows nothing about football compared to us. it’s a joke. lucas suffered from having long girly hair and havig a pretty unfashionable name, i mean come on ‘lucas’ it’s not the most beneficial name to have in england. maybe if his name was ‘trojan’ and he had a shaved head he could put in exactly the same performances and people would praise him instead of blindly saying oh he’s a bit poo bla bla bla.

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 6:07 pm

WTF did Mark put Olsson as one of his Scout picks?

BonZ February 6 at 6:08 pm

rumours are that Rooney had at least one assist?? Will FPL adjust their records if this is the case…not seen myself but i’m very eager 2c MOD.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 6:20 pm

The only one that is questionable is the Berbatov goal. It’s currently been given to Evans but no one is sure it wasn’t rooney who played the long ball to Berba.

rambo123mop February 6 at 6:09 pm

those scout picks were fairly terrible

Reed_Rothchild February 6 at 6:13 pm

Mark has a hard-on for players like Pienaar, Scharner, Tuncay, and Olsson.

BonZ February 6 at 6:13 pm

yes they may av been bit iffy but no-one has a crystal ball to accurately predict the outcomes – if they did they’d be very rich!!! Kuyt & Evra did OK…..

Aries21 February 6 at 6:11 pm

It’s true that we have to starting thinking about next GW right away. Hmm, maybe Ethrington and Toure IN? Don’t know whether to trust City defence…

(ab) February 6 at 8:58 pm

david elm seems an unusual 3bps. anyone catch a stream of that game that can elaborate?

Alan Partridge February 6 at 9:00 pm

AB! How gooooood it is to see you again…. remember our little wayne bet? :D :D

(ab) February 6 at 9:12 pm

alright alright i was meant to sportmans bet on adebayor not bridge. either way i would have lost. just seen the carrick og and if that shot was on target rooney would have got another assist so 14 points would have been unbearable.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 9:17 pm

Ah well, you probably just got caught up in all the waynegate rest rumours. However, due to doubting the greatest scouser ever to play football, you must now change your forum name to Coleen and sport a matching gravatar to show your renewed faith in wayne.

(ab) February 6 at 9:22 pm

i never didn’t get rooney because i thought he would be benched. the rested talk was nonsense imo. could happen in any game today was no different to any other game. i must stress i chose adebayor over rooney as i thought adebayor would score at least the same as rooney today, and if he didn’t then i would save a transfer for next gw and i’m confident adebayor will spank rooney in that one.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 9:25 pm

You never didn’t get?

Hang on… you ARE paul merson! Whoop.

(ab) February 6 at 9:28 pm

i didn’t get? whatever, go shag my english teacher ;)

Alan Partridge February 6 at 9:29 pm

Heheh.

Alan Partridge February 6 at 9:08 pm

Silence only compounds your guilt bonkers…

(ab) February 6 at 9:14 pm

p.s paul merson was full of praise for james mccarthy today. you may have got yourself a gem there. or maybe the white stripes on wigan’s shirts just reminded paul ’snorty’ merson of something else he enjoyed…

Alan Partridge February 6 at 9:18 pm

Indeedly. No bloody actim though (etc etc) Keeping him for the double – should be good.

mintman10 February 6 at 9:17 pm

Once again mascherano gets 3 BP…. this guy has been great… too bad he’s no kind of scoring threat

Slasher February 7 at 3:10 am

A goal each from lamps,fab,Anelka and A.cole is the only way I could possibly catch a green Arrow.

Looks Unlikely Though :(

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