September
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Moneyball – Ricardo Vaz Te

Filed under: Members - Posted by: Chris Glover

In a new series of articles for members, we explore those unfashionable, unwanted and unexciting players who don’t necessarily come with You Tube clips or Armani ads but deliver that all important quantity which drives the “Moneyball” strategy: comparative value.

The term “Moneyball” found its way across the Atlantic for many with the arrival of John Henry, whose Fenway Sports Group added Liverpool to their holdings list alongside Henry’s great pride: the Boston Red Sox. Henry’s Red Sox failed in a bid to hire Billy Beane, the general manager of the Oakland A’s and chief proponent of the so-called Moneyball strategy but, using Beane’s approach to player acquisitions, went on to deliver their first championship in 86 years. Henry’s attempts to replicate his success on Mersyeside by applying certain principles to player analysis under Damien Comolli failed to have the desired effect, however.

Despite popular opinion, the lessons of Moneyball do not start and end with saving money or looking for one particular attribute in players, but rather looking for players discarded by the wider market, either because they succeed in an uncommon way or because they do so in a particularly unfashionable manner.

Given that most Fantasy managers spend a large portion of our money on just a handful of players, we, too, are forced to invest for value at the bottom end of our squad and in that arena we have to accept imperfection if we’re going to achieve success. Finding the right assets to fill the budget gaps in our squads can prove vital; the Moneyball series is here to help – to investigate the lower end market and attempt to find diamonds in the rough.

Using the Moneyball concept and the data available to our Members, we’ll attempt to identify and analyse players who perhaps appear “imperfect” solutions but, in fact, offer strong potential for those with limited funds.

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“Creator of the plfantasy blog, providing a stats focused approach to fantasy football. Exiled to Canada but still prefer my sports played on grass rather than ice.”

Chris Glover @plfantasy

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  1. Hello.

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Evening!

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. So we're in the 'hideout' again :)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Welcome good sir the the FFS alley. What happens in this article, stay in this article ;)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  2. Going away from Football for a minute, I see Ricky Hatton is making a comeback with a face like his cant look any worse with a few more punches lets face it, but if he was to cross paths with Amir Khan who do we think would be victorious?

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Hatton.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Well that went well didn't it I thought that would stoke up a bit of a debate :)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Hatton. Definitely Hatton.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  3. Has anyone seen GF recently?

    Or did Now Back to Me scare him off?

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. The latter I suspect :)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. On twitter. Girlfriend trouble again ...

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Did he headbutt her again? Cant believe he was proud of that

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Dunno. Didn't really pay attention ... she seems a handful, though.

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Can't defend violent behaviour though...:?

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
            1. No. But she seems to instigate a fair bit.

              • 2 years, 3 months ago
  4. About to hit the button on getting Snodgrass in for N'Zog on a 1 week punt.

    Has the two week break sent me totally mad?! :)

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. I'd get Nolan. Good form and nice fixtures coming up.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Morrison!

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
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      2. Less of a threat minus Carroll.

        I want Morrison but don't fancy them this GW, probs would be better to go straight to him but Snodgrass has tempted me.

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Morrison also looks good. I'd bring him in this week because you don't want to waste two transfers going from N'Zog :arrow: Snodgrass :arrow: Morrison.

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. My head says that sounds like the right thing to do, I could even save the transfer and just play Cuellar this week.

            But I've just got a hunch that Snodgrass will deliver the goods this GW! I shouldn't need the transfer next week for anything else bar injuries, and I've had enough of them to last a season!

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Yes. Morrison ftw. ;-)

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      1. +1242434343567880

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
      2. See above.

        I want Morrison but from next GW. And I can't go 2 weeks without a transfer, I just can't!

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Two old drunks can't be wrong ... ;-)

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Is that what you tell yourself?!

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
            1. Nope. It is what I know ... ;-)

              • 2 years, 3 months ago
        2. Patience Grasshopper... patience.

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Never! I wan't to 'hop' from N'Zog onto Snodgrass!

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
  5. Evening all. Just how much of a mistake am I making with my wildcard team?

    Cech (Jaask)
    Vermaelen-Baines-Bertrand (Demel-Figueroa)
    Pienaar-Michu-Cazorla-Hazard-Yaya
    Fletcher-Tevez (Vaz Te)

    Van Persie's been giving me nightmares, including him unbalances the team too much IMO. Any thoughts appreciated.

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. I've seen worse. RVP ... is RVP.

      Here: Gibbs, Baines, Assou-Ekotto, Demel, Clyne

      Send me a nice bottle of wine.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. You must have some serious firepower up front.

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. RVP, Adebayor ... and Ruiz! ;-) I have Vermaelen. He is not the threat I hoped for.

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Yet.

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
            1. He will not be, this Season. Mr. Bould says so. :-)

              • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Too much money invested in defence there for my likening, although the defenders you have are good for attacking returns, with clean sheets at a premium I think I would lose Verm and keep Baines, Arsenals fixtures are pretty dire apart from this week for the foreseeable future, then would upgrade Vaz Te a decent forward will always over the course of the season tend to outs core a decent defender.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Hmmm, Verm has tricky GW 5&6 agreed but I think he'll outscore Baines over the season. Food for thought though, ta.

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
  6. Evening all,
    If you had to pick one, would you have Fletcher or Berbatov in your team?
    Cheers

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Fletcher

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    2. Fletcher, just.

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    3. Berba! :D

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    4. Fletcher by a Country Mile... and that's a long one!

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. You escaped the ffs uefa relagation zone!

        Lucky P**ck ;)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Did I? I have been so woeful so far.... still, plenty to play for and i'll be thrashing your sorry arses soon! :)

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      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Ok I'll bite.....
        Depends on what, Doosra-san?

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Whether you have enough firepower elsewhere.

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. I'm afraid I don't follow. If you are wondering if I have too many punts it is far too late to worry about that. I just want to know who you think is better

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                1. and thanks to everyone else too

                  • 2 years, 3 months ago
                  1. From insomnia to I'm late, but I too say Berba, though Fletch does seem like the intuitively safer pick.

                    • 2 years, 3 months ago
                  2. Ta Cole
                    I'm going Berba. I can always be safe (and boring) later on in the season when I'm trying to salvage a decent rank ;)

                    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    5. Berba

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  7. A or B, i'm very drunk so hopefully ths maes sense :)

    Team A
    Foster Begovic
    Baines Boyce KOLAROV Demel Davies
    Harard Cazorla MORRISON Michu Guthrie
    RVP BERBATOV Tevez

    Team B
    Foster Begovic
    Baines Boyce Demel Davies GORKSS
    Hazard Cazorla BALE Michu Guthire]
    RVP Tevez VAZTE

    A. Kolarov, Morrison, Berba
    B. Gorkss, Bale, Vaz Te

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Rate my reply:

      B

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. - too much ;)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
      2. Only because I refuse to accept the berbatov regime

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Agreed.... but I'm quite pissed too! :)

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
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        2. But Fulham's stats...

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. They will do well... like Totty & Bale and his awesome stats. It's just that I should have had Hazard instead....

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
          2. Don't try,I'll go off on a rant ;)

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. A but there are better options. imho.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    3. A.
      What are you high on? ;)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Unfortunately nothing. I guess Kolarov is a risk, but he IS temporary until i get Sagna :D

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Yeah, I'm not too sold on Kolarov, but A looks better.
          High on nothing? :D

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      1. This is what i wanted to hear :D

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. ... but with Fletcher & Rafael :)

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Fletcher? i rate him as a VERY good striker. But Sunderland have been creating few chances compared to Fulham, and Berbatov is a very good player,

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
  8. Ok I'm off to bed guys running on empty now, good luck to everyone tomorrow

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Night, good luck to you too :)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Night.... all the best!

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    3. Night

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  9. Ok, how is this:

    Foster, Begovic
    Baines, Boyce, Cuellar, Davies, Gorkss
    Hazard, Cazorla, Yaya, Michu, Guthrie
    RVP, Tevez, Lambert

    .1 in bank

    Foster/Begovic rotate very well, as do Boyce/Cuellar and Davies/Gorkss. Baines has the fixtures to play every week until GW15. Guthrie sits on the bench every week.

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. All set. Good luck.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. I like.

      I'm not sure about rotating Boyce/Cuellar as they just seem too expensive for that. I've gone for Baines, Rafael/Gibbs and Davies, Cuellar, Demel

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    3. Very good. Something is putting me off Southampton but Lambert has looked good

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    4. LOVE IT. It;s very nice, would you not prefer Demel over Gorkss though? He seems to be rather attacking ;)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Maybe but Gorkss has perfect home/away rotation with Davies and Reading have a DGW at some point (though probably not for quite a while).

        I actually have nothing in the bank, not the .1 I said above, so can't afford Demel anyway.

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. It's very nice. What is your team value?

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Currently 103.1m. The amount of .1m rises that I'm going to lose is very annoying though. There's also a couple that, had I decided on this a week ago, I could have got in a before .1 rises.

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
            1. Tell me about it. I've had to sacrifice a few, i'm still on 103m...

              • 2 years, 3 months ago
  10. If you guys are interested there is a Spot the differential article up, the pages are moving a little slower too.

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. But its so nice here!

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. +1 I'm getting cosy :)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
  11. Succumbed to the temptation, Snodgrass into the side!

    Will be lovely sitting on 20 points before the 3:00's even kick off!

    Night all

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Night

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Fool of a Took!

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    3. Ha! Good night & good luck!

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  12. 2nd and last question of the night
    Who will score more?
    A Podolski (SOU)
    B Tevez (stk)

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. No f-ing idea. If I did, I'd be brilliant at this game.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Neither (helpful ;) )

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    3. Long term Tevez, Short term Pod, so Pod this week.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Great minds...

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
    4. Pod this week, Tevez most weeks.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    5. Podolski :D But surely it won't be done to one game, unless you're wildcarding next week .

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    6. :oops: This was a captaincy question not a transfer question. But Podolski is getting the votes anyway so cheers :D

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  13. Ok... am on my last legs here. All the very best for tomorrow.

    See you on the other side :)

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Night. Good luck ;)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Night 4vets

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    3. Night Vets.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    4. Night 4Vets, good luck :D

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  14. Wait, so the consensus now is that Davies will start, or do we just think that at 4.0 he's worth a punt?

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. I think it's his to lose, he'll miss the odd game but overall he'll be decent value at £4.0m.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. See the scout scribbles earlier. Its sounds like its his to lose.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    3. Alright, cheers guys, he's back in :)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  15. Bego/Jussi
    Cashley Cuellar Hughes Clyne Jenkinson
    Yaya Pienaar Michu Noble Hazard
    Tevez RVP Graham

    Thinking of WCing tomorrow, anyone against me using the WC?

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Doesnt look like you need to change much.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Yeah, need to reshuffle my defense, and get Graham out, and noble maybe.

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. No need at all to WC

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. I know, but I don't know why I am tempted to WC already. :|

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
    3. Nothing wrong with that, maybe Noble and Jenkinson, Cole is a bit of a problem, a few hits and all looks fine! :D

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. I can take hits though. Thinking of going Jenk to Baines and Graham to Lambert for a hit, I have 3.5 in the bank, so I can get Baines for Jenk easily. Then the following week, I can downgrade Cashley to McAuley/Saylor/Shawcross and it'd be all fine?

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. That would be fine, is there any chance of saving some cash for Yaya to Cazorla GW7?

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Yeah, getting in Cazorla for Yaya won't be a porblem at all, I'd still have around 2 mil after doing Cashley to a 5-er. Cheers Parm. :)

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
            1. No trouble :D

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    4. Definitely save the WC. There are changes I'd make to the team but nothing major, its fine as it is.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    5. Thanks for talking me out of using the wc guys! The hit I was talking about looks fine? Or shall I just save the hit and get Baines in straight for Jenk? Thanks again. :D

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  16. Any glaring holes?

    (Not a WC team)

    For the cooler kids: http://i.imgur.com/9IYEr.png

    For the old folks: http://i.imgur.com/405mr.png

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Yay im a cool kid!
      (Team looks good tho)

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. I just spared a thought for some of the elderly around here. ;)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. It looks good, though you are light in midfield and it would look better with Torres downgraded and a second big hitter in midfield.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Well.....

        GW5: Torres to Lambert.
        GW6: Rafael to Saylor/Ridgewell/McCauley/Shawcross
        GW7: Noble to Cazorla 8-)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. I can see you going up the ranks each week with that team. Cheers!

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
        2. Good stuff

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. As always! :D

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    3. Lovely for a non WC..

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. Mark Noble would be nowhere near my team if I had used the WC! :D ;)

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
  17. On wildcard, I'm thinking I should go McAuley over Boyce for a few weeks as West Brom's fixtures are better in the short term and to capitalise on the prices rises. Have Foster as well.

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Yeah, if you can get him straight in for Boyce.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Wouldn't say the fixtures are that much better, I'd go Boyce to spread the risk, but then again, West Brom are better at the back...

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
      1. I'm only really looking at the next 4 weeks. Not massively better I agree, but the home games are RDG, QPR for West Brom which is a step up from Wigan's FUL, EVE

        • 2 years, 3 months ago
        1. Yep, I can see 2 clean sheets in the next 6 for both, but I agree West Brom are probably a better shout...

          • 2 years, 3 months ago
          1. Yeah, I'm thinking I switch to Boyce GW9 (WHM). In the meantime I think McAuley can outscore him by at least 4 and make me a little money as well. If Wigan do crap in the next few weeks I can change my mind about backing them too.

            • 2 years, 3 months ago
    3. Yep, good idea.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  18. Time to go back to the current post I think. Its a lot quieter in there now... and too quiet in here!

    • 2 years, 3 months ago
    1. Its still nice in here. I dont wanna go back and see 20 RMWCT posts on 1 page really.

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
    2. Lets go....

      • 2 years, 3 months ago
  19. Someone has been watching Sky Movies this week!! Funnily enough though, this is the way I pick my team and I already had Vaz Te, great minds think alike, eh?

    • 2 years, 3 months ago

Scout Picks

For Gameweek 17

  • Lloris
  • Zabaleta
  • Ivanovic
  • Cresswell
  • Sánchez
  • Eriksen
  • Y Touré
  • Downing
  • Bony
  • van Persie
  • Austin
  • Evans
  • Nasri
  • Carroll

Fixture Ticker

The Watchlist

Goalkeepers

Last updated: 19 Dec, 2014 1:25pm
Player Club Factors
Up Hart MCI A, Vs
Up McGregor HUL B, Vs
Up Guzan AVL B, Vs
Up Green QPR B, Vs
Down Pantilimon SUN A
Up De Gea MUN A
No Change Fabianski SWA B
Up Adrián WHM B

Defenders

Last updated: 19 Dec, 2014 12:51am
Player Club Factors
Up Zabaleta MCI B, Vs, Rest
Down Ivanovic CHE B
Down Baines EVE C
Up Yun QPR C, Vs, £
Up Davies TOT C, Vs, Rest, £
Up Janmaat NEW B, VsX, Inj
No Change Cresswell WHM B
Down Hutton AVL B, Vs, £, Sus
No Change Taylor SWA B
Up Chester HUL C, Vs, VsX
Up Evans MUN B, Vs

Midfielders

Last updated: 17 Dec, 2014 1:40pm
Player Club Factors
Up Hazard CHE A, VsX
Down Sánchez ARS A, VsX, OoP
Up Y Touré MCI B, Vs, Sus
Up Downing WHM A
Up Eriksen TOT A, Vs
Up Nasri MCI A, Vs, Inj
Down Sigurdsson SWA B, Vs
Up Sterling LIV C, Vs
No Change Bolasie CPL A, VsX
Down Oscar CHE B, VsX
Up Fer QPR B, Vs
Up Sissoko NEW B, Vs, VsX

Forwards

Last updated: 20 Dec, 2014 10:12am
Player Club Factors
No Change Diego Costa CHE B
No Change Bony SWA A, Vs
Up Austin QPR A, Vs
Up van Persie MUN A
Up Kane TOT B, Vs, Rest, £
No Change Sakho WHM B, Rest, £
Up Giroud ARS B, VsX
Up Benteke AVL B, Vs
Down Rooney MUN B, Inj, OoP
Up Carroll WHM B
Up Cissé NEW A, Vs
No Change Pellè SOT C

Selection Factors

A, B, C Current Form
Vs Favourable Fixtures
VsX Unfavourable Fixtures
Rest Rotation Risk
Inj Injured/Returning from Injury
OoP Out of Position
£ Potential Bargain
Sus Suspended/Near Suspension

The Suspension Tightrope

Player Team YC
Cazorla ARS 4
Oxlade-Chamberlain ARS 4
Agbonlahor AVL 4
Boyd BRN 4
Marney BRN 4
Chamakh CPL 4
Besic EVE 4
Naismith EVE 4
Chester HUL 4
Robertson HUL 4
Moore LEI 4
Vardy LEI 4
Balotelli LIV 4
Gerrard LIV 4
Skrtel LIV 4
Kompany MCI 4
Mangala MCI 4
Y Touré MCI 4
Fer QPR 4
Clyne SOT 4
Mane SOT 4
Mame Biram Diouf STO 4
Shawcross STO 4
Wilson STO 4
Gómez SUN 4
O'Shea SUN 4
Ki SWA 4
Williams SWA 4
Mason TOT 4
Dorrans WBA 4
Tomkins WHM 4

“Last year was quite open for me, I was in good positions, but I was quite lucky because I was getting free kicks and some penalties as well.”

Yaya Toure Manchester City midfielder