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Moneyball – Ricardo Vaz Te

Filed under: Members - Posted by: Chris Glover

In a new series of articles for members, we explore those unfashionable, unwanted and unexciting players who don’t necessarily come with You Tube clips or Armani ads but deliver that all important quantity which drives the “Moneyball” strategy: comparative value.

The term “Moneyball” found its way across the Atlantic for many with the arrival of John Henry, whose Fenway Sports Group added Liverpool to their holdings list alongside Henry’s great pride: the Boston Red Sox. Henry’s Red Sox failed in a bid to hire Billy Beane, the general manager of the Oakland A’s and chief proponent of the so-called Moneyball strategy but, using Beane’s approach to player acquisitions, went on to deliver their first championship in 86 years. Henry’s attempts to replicate his success on Mersyeside by applying certain principles to player analysis under Damien Comolli failed to have the desired effect, however.

Despite popular opinion, the lessons of Moneyball do not start and end with saving money or looking for one particular attribute in players, but rather looking for players discarded by the wider market, either because they succeed in an uncommon way or because they do so in a particularly unfashionable manner.

Given that most Fantasy managers spend a large portion of our money on just a handful of players, we, too, are forced to invest for value at the bottom end of our squad and in that arena we have to accept imperfection if we’re going to achieve success. Finding the right assets to fill the budget gaps in our squads can prove vital; the Moneyball series is here to help – to investigate the lower end market and attempt to find diamonds in the rough.

Using the Moneyball concept and the data available to our Members, we’ll attempt to identify and analyse players who perhaps appear “imperfect” solutions but, in fact, offer strong potential for those with limited funds.

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“Creator of the plfantasy blog, providing a stats focused approach to fantasy football. Exiled to Canada but still prefer my sports played on grass rather than ice.”

Chris Glover @plfantasy

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  1. Hello.

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Evening!

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. So we're in the 'hideout' again :)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Welcome good sir the the FFS alley. What happens in this article, stay in this article ;)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  2. Going away from Football for a minute, I see Ricky Hatton is making a comeback with a face like his cant look any worse with a few more punches lets face it, but if he was to cross paths with Amir Khan who do we think would be victorious?

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Hatton.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Well that went well didn't it I thought that would stoke up a bit of a debate :)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Hatton. Definitely Hatton.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  3. Has anyone seen GF recently?

    Or did Now Back to Me scare him off?

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. The latter I suspect :)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. On twitter. Girlfriend trouble again ...

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Did he headbutt her again? Cant believe he was proud of that

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Dunno. Didn't really pay attention ... she seems a handful, though.

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Can't defend violent behaviour though...:?

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
            1. No. But she seems to instigate a fair bit.

              • 2 years, 1 month ago
  4. About to hit the button on getting Snodgrass in for N'Zog on a 1 week punt.

    Has the two week break sent me totally mad?! :)

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. I'd get Nolan. Good form and nice fixtures coming up.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Morrison!

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
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      2. Less of a threat minus Carroll.

        I want Morrison but don't fancy them this GW, probs would be better to go straight to him but Snodgrass has tempted me.

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Morrison also looks good. I'd bring him in this week because you don't want to waste two transfers going from N'Zog :arrow: Snodgrass :arrow: Morrison.

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. My head says that sounds like the right thing to do, I could even save the transfer and just play Cuellar this week.

            But I've just got a hunch that Snodgrass will deliver the goods this GW! I shouldn't need the transfer next week for anything else bar injuries, and I've had enough of them to last a season!

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Yes. Morrison ftw. ;-)

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      1. +1242434343567880

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      2. See above.

        I want Morrison but from next GW. And I can't go 2 weeks without a transfer, I just can't!

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Two old drunks can't be wrong ... ;-)

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Is that what you tell yourself?!

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
            1. Nope. It is what I know ... ;-)

              • 2 years, 1 month ago
        2. Patience Grasshopper... patience.

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Never! I wan't to 'hop' from N'Zog onto Snodgrass!

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
  5. Evening all. Just how much of a mistake am I making with my wildcard team?

    Cech (Jaask)
    Vermaelen-Baines-Bertrand (Demel-Figueroa)
    Pienaar-Michu-Cazorla-Hazard-Yaya
    Fletcher-Tevez (Vaz Te)

    Van Persie's been giving me nightmares, including him unbalances the team too much IMO. Any thoughts appreciated.

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. I've seen worse. RVP ... is RVP.

      Here: Gibbs, Baines, Assou-Ekotto, Demel, Clyne

      Send me a nice bottle of wine.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. You must have some serious firepower up front.

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. RVP, Adebayor ... and Ruiz! ;-) I have Vermaelen. He is not the threat I hoped for.

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Yet.

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
            1. He will not be, this Season. Mr. Bould says so. :-)

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    2. Too much money invested in defence there for my likening, although the defenders you have are good for attacking returns, with clean sheets at a premium I think I would lose Verm and keep Baines, Arsenals fixtures are pretty dire apart from this week for the foreseeable future, then would upgrade Vaz Te a decent forward will always over the course of the season tend to outs core a decent defender.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Hmmm, Verm has tricky GW 5&6 agreed but I think he'll outscore Baines over the season. Food for thought though, ta.

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
  6. Evening all,
    If you had to pick one, would you have Fletcher or Berbatov in your team?
    Cheers

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Fletcher

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    2. Fletcher, just.

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    3. Berba! :D

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    4. Fletcher by a Country Mile... and that's a long one!

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. You escaped the ffs uefa relagation zone!

        Lucky P**ck ;)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Did I? I have been so woeful so far.... still, plenty to play for and i'll be thrashing your sorry arses soon! :)

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
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      1. Ok I'll bite.....
        Depends on what, Doosra-san?

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Whether you have enough firepower elsewhere.

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. I'm afraid I don't follow. If you are wondering if I have too many punts it is far too late to worry about that. I just want to know who you think is better

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                1. and thanks to everyone else too

                  • 2 years, 1 month ago
                  1. From insomnia to I'm late, but I too say Berba, though Fletch does seem like the intuitively safer pick.

                    • 2 years, 1 month ago
                  2. Ta Cole
                    I'm going Berba. I can always be safe (and boring) later on in the season when I'm trying to salvage a decent rank ;)

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    5. Berba

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  7. A or B, i'm very drunk so hopefully ths maes sense :)

    Team A
    Foster Begovic
    Baines Boyce KOLAROV Demel Davies
    Harard Cazorla MORRISON Michu Guthrie
    RVP BERBATOV Tevez

    Team B
    Foster Begovic
    Baines Boyce Demel Davies GORKSS
    Hazard Cazorla BALE Michu Guthire]
    RVP Tevez VAZTE

    A. Kolarov, Morrison, Berba
    B. Gorkss, Bale, Vaz Te

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Rate my reply:

      B

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. - too much ;)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
      2. Only because I refuse to accept the berbatov regime

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Agreed.... but I'm quite pissed too! :)

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        2. But Fulham's stats...

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. They will do well... like Totty & Bale and his awesome stats. It's just that I should have had Hazard instead....

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
          2. Don't try,I'll go off on a rant ;)

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. A but there are better options. imho.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    3. A.
      What are you high on? ;)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Unfortunately nothing. I guess Kolarov is a risk, but he IS temporary until i get Sagna :D

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Yeah, I'm not too sold on Kolarov, but A looks better.
          High on nothing? :D

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      1. This is what i wanted to hear :D

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. ... but with Fletcher & Rafael :)

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Fletcher? i rate him as a VERY good striker. But Sunderland have been creating few chances compared to Fulham, and Berbatov is a very good player,

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
  8. Ok I'm off to bed guys running on empty now, good luck to everyone tomorrow

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Night, good luck to you too :)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Night.... all the best!

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    3. Night

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  9. Ok, how is this:

    Foster, Begovic
    Baines, Boyce, Cuellar, Davies, Gorkss
    Hazard, Cazorla, Yaya, Michu, Guthrie
    RVP, Tevez, Lambert

    .1 in bank

    Foster/Begovic rotate very well, as do Boyce/Cuellar and Davies/Gorkss. Baines has the fixtures to play every week until GW15. Guthrie sits on the bench every week.

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. All set. Good luck.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. I like.

      I'm not sure about rotating Boyce/Cuellar as they just seem too expensive for that. I've gone for Baines, Rafael/Gibbs and Davies, Cuellar, Demel

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    3. Very good. Something is putting me off Southampton but Lambert has looked good

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    4. LOVE IT. It;s very nice, would you not prefer Demel over Gorkss though? He seems to be rather attacking ;)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Maybe but Gorkss has perfect home/away rotation with Davies and Reading have a DGW at some point (though probably not for quite a while).

        I actually have nothing in the bank, not the .1 I said above, so can't afford Demel anyway.

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. It's very nice. What is your team value?

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Currently 103.1m. The amount of .1m rises that I'm going to lose is very annoying though. There's also a couple that, had I decided on this a week ago, I could have got in a before .1 rises.

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
            1. Tell me about it. I've had to sacrifice a few, i'm still on 103m...

              • 2 years, 1 month ago
  10. If you guys are interested there is a Spot the differential article up, the pages are moving a little slower too.

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. But its so nice here!

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. +1 I'm getting cosy :)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
  11. Succumbed to the temptation, Snodgrass into the side!

    Will be lovely sitting on 20 points before the 3:00's even kick off!

    Night all

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Night

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Fool of a Took!

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    3. Ha! Good night & good luck!

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  12. 2nd and last question of the night
    Who will score more?
    A Podolski (SOU)
    B Tevez (stk)

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. No f-ing idea. If I did, I'd be brilliant at this game.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Neither (helpful ;) )

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    3. Long term Tevez, Short term Pod, so Pod this week.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Great minds...

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
    4. Pod this week, Tevez most weeks.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    5. Podolski :D But surely it won't be done to one game, unless you're wildcarding next week .

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    6. :oops: This was a captaincy question not a transfer question. But Podolski is getting the votes anyway so cheers :D

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  13. Ok... am on my last legs here. All the very best for tomorrow.

    See you on the other side :)

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Night. Good luck ;)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Night 4vets

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    3. Night Vets.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    4. Night 4Vets, good luck :D

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  14. Wait, so the consensus now is that Davies will start, or do we just think that at 4.0 he's worth a punt?

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. I think it's his to lose, he'll miss the odd game but overall he'll be decent value at £4.0m.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. See the scout scribbles earlier. Its sounds like its his to lose.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    3. Alright, cheers guys, he's back in :)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  15. Bego/Jussi
    Cashley Cuellar Hughes Clyne Jenkinson
    Yaya Pienaar Michu Noble Hazard
    Tevez RVP Graham

    Thinking of WCing tomorrow, anyone against me using the WC?

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Doesnt look like you need to change much.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Yeah, need to reshuffle my defense, and get Graham out, and noble maybe.

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. No need at all to WC

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. I know, but I don't know why I am tempted to WC already. :|

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
    3. Nothing wrong with that, maybe Noble and Jenkinson, Cole is a bit of a problem, a few hits and all looks fine! :D

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. I can take hits though. Thinking of going Jenk to Baines and Graham to Lambert for a hit, I have 3.5 in the bank, so I can get Baines for Jenk easily. Then the following week, I can downgrade Cashley to McAuley/Saylor/Shawcross and it'd be all fine?

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. That would be fine, is there any chance of saving some cash for Yaya to Cazorla GW7?

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Yeah, getting in Cazorla for Yaya won't be a porblem at all, I'd still have around 2 mil after doing Cashley to a 5-er. Cheers Parm. :)

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
            1. No trouble :D

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    4. Definitely save the WC. There are changes I'd make to the team but nothing major, its fine as it is.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    5. Thanks for talking me out of using the wc guys! The hit I was talking about looks fine? Or shall I just save the hit and get Baines in straight for Jenk? Thanks again. :D

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  16. Any glaring holes?

    (Not a WC team)

    For the cooler kids: http://i.imgur.com/9IYEr.png

    For the old folks: http://i.imgur.com/405mr.png

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Yay im a cool kid!
      (Team looks good tho)

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. I just spared a thought for some of the elderly around here. ;)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. It looks good, though you are light in midfield and it would look better with Torres downgraded and a second big hitter in midfield.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Well.....

        GW5: Torres to Lambert.
        GW6: Rafael to Saylor/Ridgewell/McCauley/Shawcross
        GW7: Noble to Cazorla 8-)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. I can see you going up the ranks each week with that team. Cheers!

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
        2. Good stuff

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. As always! :D

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    3. Lovely for a non WC..

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. Mark Noble would be nowhere near my team if I had used the WC! :D ;)

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
  17. On wildcard, I'm thinking I should go McAuley over Boyce for a few weeks as West Brom's fixtures are better in the short term and to capitalise on the prices rises. Have Foster as well.

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Yeah, if you can get him straight in for Boyce.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Wouldn't say the fixtures are that much better, I'd go Boyce to spread the risk, but then again, West Brom are better at the back...

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
      1. I'm only really looking at the next 4 weeks. Not massively better I agree, but the home games are RDG, QPR for West Brom which is a step up from Wigan's FUL, EVE

        • 2 years, 1 month ago
        1. Yep, I can see 2 clean sheets in the next 6 for both, but I agree West Brom are probably a better shout...

          • 2 years, 1 month ago
          1. Yeah, I'm thinking I switch to Boyce GW9 (WHM). In the meantime I think McAuley can outscore him by at least 4 and make me a little money as well. If Wigan do crap in the next few weeks I can change my mind about backing them too.

            • 2 years, 1 month ago
    3. Yep, good idea.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  18. Time to go back to the current post I think. Its a lot quieter in there now... and too quiet in here!

    • 2 years, 1 month ago
    1. Its still nice in here. I dont wanna go back and see 20 RMWCT posts on 1 page really.

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
    2. Lets go....

      • 2 years, 1 month ago
  19. Someone has been watching Sky Movies this week!! Funnily enough though, this is the way I pick my team and I already had Vaz Te, great minds think alike, eh?

    • 2 years, 1 month ago

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  • Fabianski
  • Baines
  • Dawson
  • Bertrand
  • Sánchez
  • Sterling
  • Eriksen
  • Tadic
  • Pellè
  • Aguero
  • Berahino
  • Vlaar
  • Chadli
  • Lukaku

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