Saturday Dugout Discussion – Gameweek 5
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We start Gameweek 5 at the Liberty Stadium, as Michael Laudrup’s Swansea host Everton. The Dugout Discussion is open, so come in and follow all the day’s action amongst fellow fantasy football managers. The team news is in and there’s one or two surprises…
Swansea XI: Vorm, Rangel, Tate, Williams, Davies, Ki, de Guzman, Michu, Hernandez, Routledge, Graham.
Everton XI: Howard, Neville, Heitinga, Jagielka, Baines, Osman, Pienaar, Coleman, Fellaini, Mirallas, Anichebe.
Following their defeat at Aston Villa last time out, Nathan Dyer and Leon Britton drop to the bench with Ki Sung Yueng and Pablo Hernandez coming in.
Having scored on Monday night against Newcastle, Victor Anichebe earns a starting berth, replacing the injured Nikica Jelavic.
There’s another five Premier League fixtures to enjoy after Swansea and Everton do battle – so plenty of fantasy points on offer all round. The Dugout Discussion chatroom is the place to see them roll in, which can be accessed right here.
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September 22 at 1:42 pm
Rivaldo says:
Just let the deluded people who dont know the rules keep thinking that he will get an assist. It’s actually amusing.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Feanor says:
From a couple posts down: according to rules only a touch outside the box from the defending team can negate an assist
September 22 at 1:45 pm
SAF - Such A Mystery says:
So you don’t have Pienaar then. Typical.
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Leif Erikson-Formerly of Larry Murphy fame. says:
You’re sh*t Rivaldo
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Jonah says:
Touches have to be outside the box to take away an assist. Its directly implied in the rules, and anone whose been watching FPL knows that’s how it’s done.
September 22 at 1:43 pm
som3awy says:
Everton doubled their advantage just before the interval, Mirallas scoring from close-range with a header after his initial effort had been saved.
I don’t think Pienaar will get the assist :/
September 22 at 1:45 pm
daniel says:
Yes, exactly what I think.
September 22 at 1:43 pm
halnone says:
did Howard save the initial shot?
if so, according to the rules it’s not a pienaar assist?
September 22 at 1:42 pm
daniel says:
You mean Vorm? Then Yes, Vorm saved it. So no assist given!
September 22 at 1:43 pm
halnone says:
lol yes I mean Vorm
September 22 at 1:42 pm
Bemba Da says:
yes but sterling passed to suarez it hit a DEFENDER then rebounded back to suarez who scored
this time pienaar passed mirallas shot it hit the bar and mirallas scored
September 22 at 1:43 pm
Nighthawk says:
No. Vorm saved the shot.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Namtab Notlob says:
No according to rules only a touch outside the box from the defending team can negate an assist
September 22 at 1:46 pm
thetinkerman says:
This.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
elninorules says:
Ah right, no wonder.
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Aatish says:
My point exactly!
First shot was saved by Vorm.
September 22 at 1:46 pm
Jonah says:
READ THE RULES. That touch is inside the box, hence is irrelevent.
September 22 at 1:43 pm
FantasyFreak says:
I have Torres, Rangel, Dyer, Noble Guthrie.
Who needs to go out first?
Have 2.6 in bank.
Really tempted by Baines and Pienaar now.
September 22 at 1:46 pm
Shaps says:
Dyer to Pie
September 22 at 1:50 pm
FantasyFreak says:
I am planning to wildcard in the coming international break which is 2 weeks away.
September 22 at 1:43 pm
Lateriser12 - "I am a consulting detective. The only one in the world" says:
Here’s the link.
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/rules/
Start emailing! (Bottom of the page)
September 22 at 1:43 pm
jayden monster xi says:
just seen the crouch handball lol
September 22 at 1:43 pm
Doosra - "Loyalty is the handmaiden to success" - A Noble Quote says:
So … Laudrup has made his first serious whoopsy … !
September 22 at 1:43 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
He played Tate last week too
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Doosra - "Loyalty is the handmaiden to success" - A Noble Quote says:
True. But this is a major strategic blunder, imo. Also, Moyes appears to have seen it coming …
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
Moyes was the first manager to properly break Swansea at home last season. He’s just too good at breaking one style teams, swansea dont have a back up plan and Moyes will destroy them.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Phaze 1 says:
WTF?? How can all you guys who spend their lives on this site not understand the rules of FPL? its 100% an assist and it will be add at some point this weekend.
September 22 at 1:42 pm
Bendy Busdriver says:
srsly
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Ali Dia says:
The assist rules are clearly bloody stupid.
September 22 at 1:49 pm
thetinkerman says:
Now that’s a different kettle of fish!
September 22 at 1:44 pm
DH1982 says:
if Sterling got an assist last week, this should also stand. He set up a shot which was blocked, then Suarez stuck in the rebound. This week it was simply the cross bar blocking the initial shot instead of a defender.
Should definitely stand.
Coupled with fact RVP got an assist last year for an identical goal at QPR where Walcott hit post and put in the rebound.
September 22 at 1:52 pm
nemtudom says:
I vaguely remembered that RVP/Walcott incident as well
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Bemba Da says:
sterling assist last week hit the defender first, if that is assist then this one is surely assist
September 22 at 1:42 pm
Bendy Busdriver says:
ya now lets move on
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Mulder says:
I’m not sure I understand, can you write some more posts about it?
September 22 at 1:46 pm
King Eric - I don't know ... And neither do you. says:
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Nighthawk says:
No. Vorm saved the shot. Completely different situation. There was no rebound here.
September 22 at 1:48 pm
daniel says:
Yes, I think you are right.
September 22 at 1:45 pm
JKisthe1 - Los Colchoneros 2 - The Revenge says:
no, I don’t think Suarez touched the ball from the initial shot, I think the defender got the touch before he made contact.
September 22 at 1:51 pm
daniel says:
Yes, it is the difference.
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Somalion - The Deadline day has robbed us of the greatest player to ever grace the EPL. Nicklas Bendtner, you will be missed. says:
It is 3 points. That is all. Calm down and stop going on about it.
September 22 at 1:54 pm
DH1982 says:
clearly a novice. this could mean a lot in peoples head to head leagues.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Captain Berbarossa - arrrrrrr!!! says:
Kind of hoping Pienaar doesn’t get the assist as he’s first sub for me.
September 22 at 1:50 pm
TheSportsGuy - you say cabay I say hello says:
+1
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
Please drop it guys. If your 3 pts away from winning fpl at the season then I shall give you £500 in compensation.
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Bowstring92 - Torino FC representing from Dublin says:
Bookmarked
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
If anyone looks close at the end of the season a few cheap bets based on their team will raise £500, or more likely fail along with their team
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
*end of the season
September 22 at 1:46 pm
dogtanion says:
+1. They need to get over it.
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Captain Shirokov says:
EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT THE ASSIST.
Ta.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Nitin Nagaraja says:
+42! This had to come at HT too.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
elninorules says:
Did Wayne Rooney get the assist then?
September 22 at 1:46 pm
Captain Shirokov says:
Yes.
September 22 at 1:49 pm
thetinkerman says:
Ha ha nice.
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Acquafresca;; Manager of Panathinaikos -ο Παναθηναϊκος με κέρδισε says:
Anyone know why Dyer didn’t start?
Just dropped or is there further concern?
September 22 at 1:45 pm
emperikal says:
Just dropped. They’ll have 3 players battling for those 2 positions week in and week out making Michu probably the best bet for Swansea MF
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Doosra - "Loyalty is the handmaiden to success" - A Noble Quote says:
May I assist in this assist discussion?
September 22 at 1:51 pm
Ginkapo-Rule No.1: wwkd? says:
Looks like it Bemba rebounded it off the bar before Menly got a touch and so no you cant assist in this assist discussion
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Level 30 Fantasy Football Wizard says:
The scoring player can take a few touches before scoring, and it will still be an assist, so Mirallas didn’t assist himself.
Also, the rules state: If after this touch, an opposing player touches the ball OUTSIDE THE PENALTY AREA altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is given, except if this intervention directly results in an own goal.
Vorm was obviously inside the penalty area. So it is a Pienaar assist.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Mulder says:
Vorm was outside the penalty area molesting the ball before Mirallas scored.
September 22 at 1:44 pm
Djerbil (aka) Calcio Catania says:
There was a deflection from a Swansea defender outside THE BOX.. But If its not an assist due to that, its Bollocks
September 22 at 1:46 pm
som3awy says:
Here’s hoping.
September 22 at 1:46 pm
Aatish says:
He saved the initial shot!
No assist for Pienaar.
September 22 at 1:46 pm
Bemba Da says:
the assist rule is like the offside rule the officials do not understand it
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Adam West = Best Batman Ever says:
Thats enough its 3 measly points at the end of the day.
September 22 at 1:48 pm
Bemba Da says:
i’m guessing you do not have him
September 22 at 1:49 pm
Adam West = Best Batman Ever says:
Nope and even if I did three points will not define a gameweek let alone a season.
September 22 at 1:48 pm
som3awy says:
Every point makes a difference.
September 22 at 1:57 pm
boc610 says:
in fairness that can be the difference between a red and a green arrow…
September 22 at 1:49 pm
Leif Erikson-Formerly of Larry Murphy fame. says:
What a stupid post.
September 22 at 1:46 pm
philman says:
Um, I am a Pienaar owner, and I have to say the cross actually touches a Swansea player outside the box on its way across. A slight deflection. Therefore no assist
(
September 22 at 1:47 pm
philman says:
That was meant to be a sad face!!
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Djerbil (aka) Calcio Catania says:
^This.. but its a Crap system bcoz there was no deviation after the touch..
September 22 at 1:46 pm
jayden monster xi says:
rooney assist
September 22 at 1:49 pm
Doosra - "Loyalty is the handmaiden to success" - A Noble Quote says:
Once upon a time …
September 22 at 1:46 pm
FORCA INTER says:
i am actually happy cause pinaar didnt rewardedwith assist
does anyone actaually emailing fpl towers over this?
September 22 at 1:45 pm
elninorules says:
Most people are alive cos it’s illegal to shoot them. Be different, Forca.
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Nitin Nagaraja says:
LOL.
He’ll get it, man!
September 22 at 1:46 pm
In Kewell Kompany says:
Moyes giving Laudrup as managerial lesson today. You can only hope that Laudrup can swallow his pride and get Dyer in from the 46th minute.
Graham has been starved of quality supply and looks likely to be shipped from my squad for Berbs next GW.
September 22 at 1:49 pm
In Kewell Kompany says:
AND he has. 3-2 Swansea coming up
September 22 at 2:07 pm
In Kewell Kompany says:
Dyer fail
September 22 at 1:47 pm
denial says:
Oh an assist ‘debate.’ Wonderful.
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Djerbil (aka) Calcio Catania says:
Does anyone know How Pablo Hernandez looks like?? I could not spot him during the match
September 22 at 1:48 pm
Acquafresca;; Manager of Panathinaikos -ο Παναθηναϊκος με κέρδισε says:
You guys are ridiculous. Im off for now.
September 22 at 1:45 pm
Nitin Nagaraja says:
3 pages of utter crap!
September 22 at 1:46 pm
Mulder says:
3 points = 3 pages of discussion
September 22 at 1:47 pm
emperikal says:
Ugh…
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Lateriser12 - "I am a consulting detective. The only one in the world" says:
No No.
Start emailing
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/rules/
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Nitin Nagaraja says:
They’ll award it. Chill. Geez!
September 22 at 1:48 pm
Lateriser12 - "I am a consulting detective. The only one in the world" says:
Uhm, understand the sarcasm will ya?!
September 22 at 1:51 pm
FORCA INTER says:
wthats wrong with you?
i’ll email them and tell them to not listen people lie you
cross actually touches a Swansea player outside the box on its way across. A slight deflection
September 22 at 1:47 pm
Captain Shirokov says:
Know how you feel.
September 22 at 1:49 pm
elninorules says:
Why so serious?
September 22 at 1:48 pm
Bemba Da says:
people saying “oh it’s only worth 3 points” are obviously ones without pienaar
assist can also mean bonus points plus how you know we not captain him.
September 22 at 1:49 pm
Somalion - The Deadline day has robbed us of the greatest player to ever grace the EPL. Nicklas Bendtner, you will be missed. says:
Shame. I used to think you were alright.
September 22 at 1:53 pm
Doosra - "Loyalty is the handmaiden to success" - A Noble Quote says:
He is alright.
September 22 at 1:48 pm
Aatish says:
Looks like nobody has Mirallas..
September 22 at 1:48 pm
Bemba Da says:
hernandez off dyer on
September 22 at 1:48 pm
MartinUnreal says:
Is it a pienaar assist? Ahhhh WERE ALL GONNA DIE AHHHHHHHH
September 22 at 1:48 pm
1966 was a great year for English football - Eric was born says:
After Pienaar crossed it, Howard and Mirallas could have acted out the Nike airport ad inside the box and it would still be a Pienaar assist.
September 22 at 1:48 pm
Captain Shirokov says:
September 22 at 1:49 pm
Doosra - "Loyalty is the handmaiden to success" - A Noble Quote says:
I love this comment.
September 22 at 1:50 pm
Mull says:
September 22 at 1:53 pm
Tuchap says:
Actually made me lol