Moneyball – Jason Puncheon
Filed under: Members - Posted by: Chris Glover
This series has generally been engaged in looking for the “next prospect”, the unheralded and the unfashionable. This week, we’re going to go in a slightly different direction and re-examine someone who was first mentioned in these pages back in Gameweek 6, after which he was promptly benched to seemingly slip back into obscurity. As last weekend’s performance at QPR demonstrated, however, the underlying potential of Jason Puncheon was never in doubt: pitch-time looks to be the key factor in his prosperity as a Fantasy asset.
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November 23 at 6:11 pm
ronh says:
One idiot wastes his time doing that crap thing above, then posts it loads of times, to ensure everyone can see what he has achieved.
Then other clowns post the same thing.
My faith in humans has hit rock bottom.
Perhaps evolution is actually going backwards. I feel monkeys have more intelliegence than most people.
November 23 at 6:11 pm
Madine4Life says:
Intelligence kid. Hurts falling off your high horse eh?
November 23 at 6:12 pm
ronh says:
Cause I made a typo??
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Madine4Life says:
I apologise that your fingers are too fat for your keyboard.
November 23 at 6:19 pm
Santiagounreal - proud owner of garrido says:
For assistance, Please mash the keypad
November 23 at 6:19 pm
Santiagounreal - proud owner of garrido says:
with your palm
November 23 at 6:20 pm
Madine4Life says:
I require a dialling wand too
November 23 at 6:21 pm
Kerrazy says:
or you could try typing with your face. cc triggerlips. or was it Triggylips ?
November 23 at 6:24 pm
Santiagounreal - proud owner of garrido says:
Yeah, Triggerlips was fond of typing with his face
November 23 at 6:12 pm
Twisted Saltergater says:
Is this the Oxford English dictionary’s definition of “irony”?
November 23 at 6:15 pm
Holy see says:
November 23 at 6:12 pm
Reply Fail says:
There are humans on this site? I am Legend.
November 23 at 6:14 pm
The Shadow says:
-ary.
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Reply Fail says:
Sharp as a knife!
November 23 at 6:12 pm
bennydebull says:
Bar humbug
November 23 at 6:13 pm
shermanater says:
why dont you do one all your comments seem to be whiney or confrontational
November 23 at 6:13 pm
jelly.john says:
U SUCH A LOSER can u beat my teams M F
November 23 at 6:13 pm
The Parmtree says:
Including yourself?
November 23 at 6:14 pm
jelly.john says:
http://fantasy.premierleague.c.....1/history/
November 23 at 6:16 pm
Kerrazy says:
sad that people notice and hate you more even without the grav. good job son !
November 23 at 6:16 pm
Reply Fail says:
Oh,and I don’t think Bale has more intelliegence than most people.
November 23 at 6:21 pm
GREENDREAMS11 says:
Ball, gareth, run. Seems about right
November 23 at 6:22 pm
Giggs Boson says:
I just found it dude, but i’m flattered you think i made i it.
November 23 at 6:26 pm
rdpx says:
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what is he talking about?
¿ʇnoqɐ ƃuıʞlɐʇ ǝɥ sı ʇɐɥʍ
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November 23 at 6:29 pm
Giggs Boson says:
That must have took you all day! But i guess at least your not doing the opposite and trying to make people miserable
November 23 at 6:11 pm
Mull- Bring back the old bonus points system!!! says:
Everything in order for this weekend?
Begovic
Rafael, Evans, Cuellar
Fellaini(c), Bale, Mata, Sterling, McAnuff
RVP(v), Tevez
Subs: Tremmel, Ba, Cameron, Gorkss
November 23 at 6:13 pm
Lateriser12 - "I am a consulting detective. The only one in the world" says:
Start Ba. Start Ba.
START BA.
START BA.
START BAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
November 23 at 6:15 pm
leeroyB says:
+loads – Ba top for goal threat in last two GWs and Southampton can’t keep a clean sheet
November 23 at 6:13 pm
Tayls says:
Ba over McAnuff surely
November 23 at 6:13 pm
Brutus619 says:
I can’t decide whether I’d prefer the (C) on Fella to be a joke or note. If it is oh dear, if it isn’t, oh deary dear.
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Brutus619 says:
PS What they said, Ba has gotta be playing in your team!
November 23 at 6:15 pm
Mull- Bring back the old bonus points system!!! says:
He comes in for Fellaini. I admit it’s a terrible joke
November 23 at 6:16 pm
Lateriser12 - "I am a consulting detective. The only one in the world" says:
Keep a viable vc. Last minute injuries and all that.
November 23 at 6:15 pm
Twisted Saltergater says:
Ha, was going to do that until I realised Rooney was an injury doubt and I may not have a VC playing!
Like the team. Good luck!
November 23 at 6:15 pm
jelly.john says:
Fellaini(c) ?????????????????????????
HE WILL NOT PLAY
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Jafalad says:
Someone’s going to get caught out doing this one day. Be careful this doesn’t backfire.
November 23 at 6:18 pm
Mull- Bring back the old bonus points system!!! says:
Knowing my luck tomorrow will be that day
November 23 at 6:12 pm
Giggs Boson says:
Giggs Boson® would like to apologise for opening pandora’s box۞, and advices Kerrazy♀ to stop posting pointless html symbols. ☼☼☼ ☻☻☻ RVP©
November 23 at 6:16 pm
Pratik says:
It makes a pleasant change, until things quickly spiral out of control (basically 1 minute
).
November 23 at 6:16 pm
The Parmtree says:
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November 23 at 6:16 pm
The Parmtree says:
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November 23 at 6:18 pm
Kerrazy says:
calm yo tits.
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Mark says:
Enough please Parm.
November 23 at 6:19 pm
The Parmtree says:
✔
November 23 at 6:21 pm
John Terry's Dog - Forgetfulness is a form of freedom. says:
Must be first guy to get a conversation with yourself removed
November 23 at 6:25 pm
Santiagounreal - proud owner of garrido says:
You should see those forums for people dealing with Schizophrenia.
November 23 at 6:28 pm
Kerrazy says:
now dont take all the credit now hey
November 23 at 6:12 pm
Milanista says:
Evening all,
What the f*** has GB just started
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Giggs Boson says:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr.....qbmaqq.gif
November 23 at 6:12 pm
Tayls says:
Play Long or Bardsley this weekend? (they face eachother)….Never bench an in form striker…or just play the home defender?
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Darren Caskey says:
Easily play Long
November 23 at 6:12 pm
Thomass67 Guys Join My LEAGUE CODE IS: 14862-133757 says:
Best 2 keepers rotation options and best back-line for gameweek 14 onwards???
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Reply Fail says:
One word : Begovic.
(ok, 3 words)
November 23 at 6:28 pm
Kerrazy says:
no it’s not.
November 23 at 6:30 pm
Reply Fail says:
ok, 6
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Mull- Bring back the old bonus points system!!! says:
De Gea, Mignolet
Rafael, Cuellar, Cameron, O’Shea, ShawX
November 23 at 6:16 pm
Thomass67 Guys Join My LEAGUE CODE IS: 14862-133757 says:
no man united please!
November 23 at 6:13 pm
andres says:
Think the saints might trash newcastle
November 23 at 6:14 pm
flavio083007 says:
can arsenal get clean sheets from tommrw’s gameweek onwards (gibbs coming back makes them stronger but………..), i have sagna but i think i should throw him off for a sunderland defender……………
November 23 at 6:14 pm
goonerbyron says:
Just realised I have 3 Southampton players in my team
November 23 at 6:16 pm
andres says:
Do you have jason?
November 23 at 6:17 pm
goonerbyron says:
Gazzaniga, Clyne, Puncheon
November 23 at 6:20 pm
Milanista says:
*vomits everywhere*
November 23 at 6:22 pm
Reply Fail says:
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Darren Caskey says:
Would u?
A) Simpson -> Caulker & Guthrie -> Puncheon
B) Sagna -> 4.6 and Guthrie -> Sterling
C) Simpson -> Caulker only.
Option C means I can get Sterling next GW. (Have to play 4-3-3 this GW with Demel as my only bench player as Fellaini is sitting out and Guthrie is still injuried)
November 23 at 6:18 pm
Jafalad says:
B. Avoid Puncheon and Caulker.
November 23 at 6:24 pm
Darren Caskey says:
Thanks for the reply man good luck.
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Crouch Potato says:
Think this is what us QPR fans want, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM0Neo85Rj4
November 23 at 6:14 pm
Nopli-Unleashthedrog says:
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/359903
November 23 at 6:17 pm
All Up On The Interwebs says:
lol the campfire stories have already begun
November 23 at 6:15 pm
rdb007 says:
Play one of each.
a)Ruddy, Federici
b)Gorkss, Clyne
Thanks
November 23 at 6:15 pm
PanPan says:
Had no replies
Team linked.
Right now im benching cameron and simpson.
Should i double up on stoke? With bego in goal already. Berba up front.
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Pratik says:
I see a Stoke CS, so I would double up or you could just hedge your bets.
November 23 at 6:18 pm
Holy see says:
People are lazy, post your team. So am I.
November 23 at 6:15 pm
ochocinco says:
Bego (Jaask)
Baines Cuellar Hughes (Gorkss, Nelsen)
Mata Bale Sterling Nolan (Fellaini)
RVP Suarez Berbs
1m in the bank. 1 FT.
I kinda want to do Nolan and Nelsen/Gorkss -> Puncheon and Rafael but i’m not sure if it’s worth a hit. Any suggestions?
November 23 at 6:21 pm
Jafalad says:
Nooo. There seems to be an incredible amount of kneejerkery this year. One bad week and the player’s out; one good week and it’s a must have.
Man U don’t keep cs and Puncheon just won’t return of any kind. Stick with what you have got. Hughes to Wisdom if you must. Otherwise your team looks v good.
November 23 at 6:25 pm
Pratik says:
Even though I have had Berba for a few weeks, would Berba->Defoe be considered kneejerky…..Madly fancy Defoe for the next 3 gw’s.
November 23 at 6:16 pm
Kerrazy says:
dedicated to Ronh trying to be a hero, well done sir!
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Kerrazy says:
…hero and failed miserably
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Doosra - "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes" - A Noble Twain Quote says:
Evening all. *flexes knees; winces*
ALRIGHTY … 12! Tables are updated for game week 12!!! Here it is! Come and get it … Mmm, make your mind up fast. If you want it any time, I can give it, but you better hurry ’cause it may not last.
Did I hear you say that there must be a catch? Will you walk away from a fool and his money? If you want it, here it is, come and get it … but you better hurry ’cause it’s going fast!
http://ginkapo.wordpress.com/stairway-to-heaven
November 23 at 6:20 pm
Holy see says:
I’d rather not look
November 23 at 6:26 pm
Doosra - "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes" - A Noble Twain Quote says:
You are on 9, holding off JKisthe1 …
November 23 at 6:54 pm
GREENDREAMS11 says:
Im on the floor in league 5. If i go any deeper its coz ive died
November 23 at 6:17 pm
PigeonIslandFC says:
What will your 11.29am trigger finger be hanging over this week?
Mine is my captaincy as posted on the previous page; Aguero, Suarez & Giroud.
November 23 at 6:19 pm
shermanater says:
not quite 11:29 but rooney in for tevez
November 23 at 6:21 pm
Pratik says:
Berbatov->Defoe for a 4pt hit. Just fancy Defoe for a 2-3 gw punt.
November 23 at 6:17 pm
Berbatov can score at will, he just chooses not to... says:
Begovic—Federici
McAuley—Baines—Rafael—Gorkss—Demel
Bale—Mata—Caz—Nolan—Fellaini
Giroud—Ba—The Berbatron
Planning on downgrading McAuley after this round to fund upgrading Ba or Giroud, any suggestions on a good inexpensive defender?
1.9 in the bank
November 23 at 6:19 pm
The Parmtree says:
McAuley ➠ Cuellar or B.Jones.
November 23 at 6:18 pm
Maximus Bonimus says:
Morrison & ba > silva & fletcher for 4 point hit?
Morrison – 3 away in next 4
Ba – playing in injury hit team struggling for form
Silva – mister consistency albeit with tough fixs
Fletcher – focal point of a side with 4 home and 1 away in next 4 GWs
November 23 at 6:19 pm
shermanater says:
nuts with ba against the weakest defence in the division
November 23 at 6:20 pm
Mark Clattenburger says:
newcastle are injury jinxed at the moment.
November 23 at 6:23 pm
shermanater says:
ba isnt injured & have a look at his shot stats
November 23 at 6:19 pm
The Viper says:
Here is my 2nd tentative plan to get Suarez in for free before gwk 15 without upsetting my team this much..
This gwk: Ridgewell -> Shorey
Next gwk: Bale -> Silva
Gwk 15: Tevez -> Suarez
That leaves me with exactly 0.0m so probably won’t work out..
OR
This gwk: Ridgewell -> Jones
Next gwk: Cazorla -> Walcott
Gwk 15: Tevez -> Suarez
Which looks better and upsets my team the least?
Please and thank you
November 23 at 6:22 pm
Milanista says:
Not much in it but first one for me.
November 23 at 6:22 pm
Mark Clattenburger says:
he could be suspended by then…
November 23 at 6:26 pm
The Viper says:
Hopefully he gets his yellow sunday..
November 23 at 6:19 pm
Rui says:
Evening! Team is:
Federici (Jussi)
Baines Cuellar Cameron (Fonte, Demel)
Caz Mata Bale Sterling (Kaca)
Berbs RVP(c) Tevez
Worth doing Berbs –> Defoe? Or keep my FT for this week?
November 23 at 6:25 pm
Giggs Boson says:
I would prefer Berb→Fletcher if you really want to ditch Berba.
November 23 at 6:27 pm
Rui says:
I completely missed that one! That is very tempting indeed, cheers.
November 23 at 6:19 pm
thetinkerman says:
Brian:
I’m off. Good luck and let me know if you find anything!
November 23 at 6:22 pm
Brian says:
Will do, laters lad
November 23 at 6:22 pm
John Terry's Dog - Forgetfulness is a form of freedom. says:
What am I looking for?
November 23 at 6:26 pm
Santiagounreal - proud owner of garrido says:
The thing you too still haven’t found
November 23 at 6:20 pm
Rossoneri4Ever says:
I’ve not done a transfer last week thinking to save a FT, but now I have no idea what to do with it. Try to get RVP in? Suarez? Or try to improve the defence (if that’s even needed…)?
0.4 in the bank, btw.
Jussi
Rafael, Cuellar, Hughes
Hazard, Cazorla, Michu, Bale
Berba, Ba, Tevez
Subs: Foster, Rangel, Fellaini, Wilkinson
Somebody show me the light! HELP MEH
November 23 at 6:24 pm
The Viper says:
Hazard -> Sterling & Ba -> RVP?
Not sure if you can afford it?
November 23 at 6:29 pm
Rossoneri4Ever says:
No, damn!
0.7 short.
November 23 at 6:21 pm
Fifa las vegas says:
What to do?
Jaas, Fed
Gorkss, Rangel, Baines, Ridge, Cuellar
Mata, Walcott, Fellaini, Kaca, Nolan
Long, RVP, Suarez
Little help, please?
November 23 at 6:22 pm
The Viper says:
How many transfers do you have & how much in the bank?
November 23 at 6:23 pm
Madine4Life says:
Good question Viper, context is everything in such questions FLV
November 23 at 6:25 pm
Fifa las vegas says:
1ft + 0.0 in the bank
. Was thinking maybe Fellaini + Walcott > AJ + Tony V
November 23 at 6:23 pm
Madine4Life says:
Walcott to caz? Or just stack up on your defence
November 23 at 6:24 pm
Kerrazy says:
Walcott>Silva if you can afford. which i’m pretty sure you can’t. so downgrade Ridge>Garrido. get all the funds you can to do Silva move.
November 23 at 6:24 pm
Jafalad says:
Not to sure you need much help with that team. Prob lacks another big hitter in midpark so I’d be looking at Bale/Caz/Silva, cheapening the defence and upgrading Long to Berbs.
November 23 at 6:23 pm
Fifa las vegas says:
Would you get Morrison or AJ?
November 23 at 6:24 pm
Kerrazy says:
current form and potential and fixtures. AJ.
November 23 at 6:25 pm
The Viper says:
AJ with the dgwk in mind especially. Good fixtures until then..
November 23 at 6:36 pm
rasher says:
AJ all the way
November 23 at 6:23 pm
rasher says:
havent taken a points hit this season yet……
havent had rvp in my team thus season yet……
but,,,
already got cueller in
and…
very tempted to take an 8 point hit to get RVP in…
problem is…
it would have to be ba -) RVP + bale -) puncheon whcih i can afford exactly…
will it..
be madenss or genius?
November 23 at 6:24 pm
Kerrazy says:
sorry to say but wtf did i just read ?
November 23 at 6:26 pm
Pratik says:
Ba->RVP
Bale->Puncheon
for 8 pt hit…..Yes or No?
November 23 at 6:28 pm
Reply Fail says:
Do you work with difficult children?
November 23 at 6:30 pm
Kerrazy says:
okay it’s easier that way. why would you take hits Pratik? for Puncheon that’s effing mad LOL
November 23 at 6:31 pm
Pratik says:
Yup, it absolutely is silly…..I just made the question clear. Didn’t bother replying.
November 23 at 6:35 pm
rasher says:
jesus cheer up ya moany git.. its friday so what if i made spaces..
November 23 at 6:34 pm
rasher says:
he’s pointing out my question that people are moaning about..
its to get rvp in
November 23 at 6:27 pm
Reply Fail says:
havent taken a points hit this season yet……
havent had rvp in my team thus season yet……
but,,,
already got cueller in
and…
very tempted to take an 8 point hit to get RVP in…
problem is…
it would have to be ba -) RVP + bale -) puncheon whcih i can afford exactly…
will it..
be madenss or genius?
November 23 at 6:32 pm
rasher says:
wow your too funny
November 23 at 6:27 pm
shermanater says:
rash move rvp and puncheon wont outscore ba and bale +8! spread those transfers out or settle for rooney if unaffordable
November 23 at 6:31 pm
rasher says:
cheers, i actually havent considered rooney.. i think rvp is main man.
i just have it in my head that rvp is gonna destroy qpr but i suppose id need him to hit a hattrick to get the benefit of it
November 23 at 6:26 pm
Lateriser12 - "I am a consulting detective. The only one in the world" says:
http://www.fantasyfootballscou.....nt-4391095
NEW POST
November 23 at 6:28 pm
hrunny7 says:
‘Arry’s back
http://www.independent.co.uk/s.....46721.html
November 23 at 6:32 pm
fc_gorbachev says:
Hi Chaps, can you let me know what you would do to improve my team. Happy to make up to 3 transfers:
Foster Federici
Simpson Baines Clyne Demel Shawcross
Pienaar Cazorla Sterling Fellani Guthrie
RVP Tevez Suarez
I have even been thinking of dropping Tevez for Fletcher or Ba to strenghtne elsewhere?