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Team of the Season – Steven Gerrard

Written off by many as a legitimate Fantasy prospect after a couple of very average seasons for Liverpool, Steven Gerrard rolled back the years in Brendan Rodgers’ first year at the Anfield helm. The Liverpool skipper racked up 185 points in 2012/13 – his highest haul in four seasons – and was resultantly handed a 9.0 price tag as the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game got underway last summer:

After a sluggish first few weeks, Gerrard began to find his form and proceeded to serve up the points with a remarkable consistency. In spite of his deep-lying role in front of the back-four, the midfielder went on to produce a goal or assist in 21 of his 33 starts and finished the campaign on 205 points; third in the overall standing behind only Luis Suarez and Yaya Toure.

The Statistics

The campaign started slowly for Gerrard. With Suarez suspended for the first five fixtures, the Reds captain failed to pick up a single return as Rodgers’ side relied on Daniel Sturridge to grab the goals. Dropping to 8.9 in price, he was mainly overlooked as Fantasy managers opted for one, or even both, of Liverpool’s frontmen, as Suarez’ return to the fold saw Rodgers’ side rack up the goals.

With the Uruguayan in the starting XI, Gerrard’s prospects instantly improved as he embarked on a run which saw him produce returns in nine of his first 10 starts alongside the South American. A brief four-Gameweek injury absence over December saw Gerrard’s price drop back down to 8.7 but, upon his return, he wasted no time in maintaining his previous exploits, going on to produce points in 12 of the final 18 Gameweeks.

Despite his outstanding season, Gerrard never rose above 9.6 in FPL. A total of eight 10+ hauls underlines his explosive potential, though it’s fair to say that few handed him the Fantasy armband due to Suarez’ exploits up top. With 13 goals, 15 assists and 30 bonus points to his name, Gerrard played a pivotal part in his side’s second place finish, whilst his contributions from the centre of the park persuaded many to load up on Liverpool’s assets in a season that saw Rodgers’ free-scoring side notch 101 times over the course of the league campaign.

The Prospects

A price hike will surely be on the cards after such an impressive year last time round. Gerrard, Suarez and Sturridge can all be expected to cost us more in 2014/15 and with many keen to snap up the South American regardless of price, his skipper is likely to remain relatively under the radar.

With Champions League football back on the menu, though, there’s a fear that Gerrard’s game time will perhaps be managed a little more by Rodgers next season. Bearing in mind he will be 34 years of age at the end of this month, he’s more likely to be prone to rotation than the more youthful trio of Raheem Sterling, Philippe Coutinho and Jordan Henderson as a result of the busy schedule – reports last month claiming that Gerrard has been playing through the pain barrier with a heel problem merely strengthen this theory.

The Merseysiders have only been concerned by domestic duties since the Northern Irishman arrived and, as a result, their first XI has been more consistent than most – it’s likely that we will see the Reds boss utilise the depth of his squad next term, with a handful of acquisitions over the summer to boost his options in key positions.

There’s also the question of penalties. Ten of Gerrard’s 13 goals came courtesy of the spot in 2013/14 and you surely have to wonder whether Liverpool will benefit from such consistency once again. On the positive side, though, Gerrard will be the only premium midfielder who is first-choice spot-kick taker for his side – both Yaya Toure and Eden Hazard still rely on Sergio Aguero and Frank Lampard’s respective absences for City and Chelsea.

Nonetheless, as Gerrard has shown in both seasons under Rodgers’ guidance, Liverpool’s swashbuckling approach looks tailor-made for his Fantasy prospects. With Suarez and Sturridge wreaking havoc up front and Martin Skrtel’s aerial presence at set-pieces and corners proving key, Gerrard’s creativity has delivered 27 assists under Rodgers and, in spite of his advancing years, there’s plenty more still left in the tank judging by last term’s displays. Whether he can provide us with the same sort of value and keep the likes of Sterling in the shade is another matter entirely.

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  1. Can Gerrard's outstanding form continue into 2014/15?
    J0E
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    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    Steven Gerrard relies on set pieces and in particular penalties and corners for his points. He doesn't rely on pace or stamina that are set to lessen as the years advance. Can he continue to produce the sort of returns he was getting this season? Or will age, rotation and injury finally catch up with him next season, with Liverpool now having to cope with European football as well as a Premier League push?

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      not sure he will reach the levels he has this year, but he will still be a good option, although likely overpriced

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Suarez and Sturridge will earn him enough set-pieces to keep the points ticking over.

      Gerrard's delivery is quality.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I worry about UCL rotation next year though, at his age.

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        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          The group stages entail 6 games before they get knocked out so he should manage these but will he play Prem league games around this - I don't think so.
          Rest / rotation will be the order of the day , let the casuals have him.

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        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          It's not like he runs around much anymore though.

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          1. HVT
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            True - only in nightclubs it seems 😉

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    3. Heydudes13
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      9 years, 11 months ago

      He said his legs feel okay after the Newcastle game (of course he would say that).

      With a World Cup to train and play in, European football next season and an inflated price, think there will be better options to go for.

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    4. HVT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      The casuals will buy him in their droves and they will fail and so will Stevie.

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      1. pompeyfan
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        agree

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    5. Moin
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      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Won't be keeping him in my FPL team next season..

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    6. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I think gametime and price will be the biggest obstacle. Still expect him to score well but not enough to justify a price on a par with Hazard.

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    7. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      As long as Sterling keeps getting knocked over every time there's a gust of wind, Stevie G will earn points.

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    8. Qubit
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I think theres every chance he could have a decent enough season again. His penalties depend upon Suarez and Sturridge mainly. If they are they terrorising the opposition then penalities are somewhat inevitable.

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    9. Dino
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      10 of Liverpools 12 penalties came in the second half of the season and without these we would not be talking about him at all.

      Unless there is some statistical reason that every team gets more penalties in the second half of the season then I would think liverpool will get a more reasonable 5-8 pens next season leading to a much reduced points total for Gerro.

      Add in the amount of assists he got from free kicks and corners which was a unbelievable conversion rate then I think Stevie G could easily be down 40+pts next season and no way am I paying 10m+ for a def midfielder regardless of whether he is on penalties. Mikel Arteta could easily have a similar scoring season to Stevie G if Arsenal get so fortunate with the penalty decisions.

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  2. Piggs Boson
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    9 years, 11 months ago

    My FPL talisman.

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    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      See the upgrade in your Grav GB , has EN promised you England in the Wc game ?

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        No, I don't think I'm playing in that tournament. I'm at Download festival during the first week.

        I'm just supporting my home country in the World Cup 🙂

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        1. Moin
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          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Download Festival!!!!!!! Nice! wish even I could go there...But I'll be in Italy at that point on a holiday..

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      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        🙄

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        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Trying to throw us off the scent Chrissy - you ain't fall in for the ol " I'm at the Download festival " story ?

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          1. Christina.
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            Nah. GB might be shooting his load I reckon.

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  3. Piggs Boson
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    9 years, 11 months ago

    Will a Chelsea defender be almost essential next season?

    I'm sure many will be doubling.

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    1. Heydudes13
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      9 years, 11 months ago

      Cahill.

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    2. GTS
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      9 years, 11 months ago

      Think so. Though a price hike may discourage some to double up.

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        9 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, I have a feeling FPL will price us out. Cheapest at 6.5m

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        1. Dino
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          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          I agree 6.5m probably but if they keep up their defensive returns we could be looking at 20-24 cs next season which would be immense and could justify a double up even.

          In JM last spell in charge of Chelsea he averaged 22cs per season 20, 22 and 24 (not sure what order though) and he looked to be getting the team into similar form the second half of last year with matic being an excellent signing.

          24 cs under the new bonus system would equate to approx 212 points (allowing an average of 2 bonus points per cs and not allowing anything for attacking returns). Hell with those sort of points a triple up on Chelsea defence might even be called for 😯

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    3. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Going to monitor Courtois. One defender and maybe him.

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    4. Qubit
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Price depending. But in theory yes.

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    5. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      They will no doubt get the most clean sheets in the league, whether they will still be worth their price I'm not sure.

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    6. HVT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      He will but how are we gonna fit in :
      Cahill / Trippier
      Yaya / Ramsey
      Suarez / Rvp / Aguero !!!!!

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Lose kun.

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      2. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Lose Yaya.

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      3. Dušan Citizen
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Lose RVP.

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  4. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    "However, Seluk has insisted Toure's complaints are not about money.

    He added: "Yaya is rich enough, I am rich enough and for us the most important thing is relationships. They don't know that money can't buy relationships -- no Sheikh can buy a relationship. This isn't about money or a new contract -- it's about human relationships and City have shown they don't respect him. I repeat, this is not about money. In fact, he would take less to return to Barcelona."

    Sigh, The Sun are probably spouting absolute shit but still. Me no likey.

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      His agent did this last year, and the year before.

      Yaya should sack his agent.

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      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, it's that last line about taking less to return to Barcelona that is my issue.

        Then again, his agent did get him on the obscene paycheck he earns so he must be decent enough.

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    2. Heydudes13
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      9 years, 11 months ago

      What a pansy. Jesus. Leave and make FPL more interesting.

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      1. Somalion
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        9 years, 11 months ago

        If he leaves it'll be less interesting. He'll be a huge price next season and I think there'll be a big split between people owning him and people looking elsewhere.

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        1. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          exactly, I can't wait for all the people to buy him at a ridiculously high price

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          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            So he better stay 👿

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      2. getfunky
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        9 years, 11 months ago

        he was the best thing about FPL last season

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  5. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Everton eye Shelbourne right-back Ryan Robinson.

    Shelbourne have confirmed that they are in talks with Everton over a deal for their defensive prospect Ryan Robinson.

    Robinson, 18, has already spent time on trial at Finch Farm and now Everton are keen to tie up a deal for the youngster who is already been labelled the 'new Seamus Coleman'.

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    1. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I hope they base that on his skill and not his looks 😯

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Seam(us) on you.

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        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          I'm a cold man 😯

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  6. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    "Leeds owner Massimo Cellino hopes to be able to grow the club with shrewd dealings in the transfer market."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9rIBE0KM-w

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  7. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Another player I never owned this season. I beginning to realise why i ended up doing so badly 🙂

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I didn't own Yaya until the last couple of weeks and I didn't do too bad.

      There are plenty of other sources of points, not just the mainstream ones 😉

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah but when you go through that season with no points from Ramsey Yaya or Gerrard your bound to slip up despite having Snoddy, Puncheon and Silva.

        I think what ive learnt most this year is not to be as stubborn

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    2. Dino
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I never owned Gerrard, Coleman, Hazard and only had Yaya for three weeks but still managed 3.1k after a small drop the last gw. You don't necessarily have to have the highest points scorers as long as you spend the money saved on the big hitters wisely.

      Ps I didn't have all of the above for various reasons and would probably make the same decisions again if faced with the same facts.

      Gerro - didn't think he could keep up his set piece returns which were ridiculous with 2 pens first half of the season and 10 in the second half (who could have predicted that???)

      Coleman - Just didn't get on quick enough, mistake in hindsight

      Hazard - Had a choice between Silva and Hazard and went Silva probably the single biggest mistake of my season. Still think Hazard was pretty lucky to get the returns he did considering he was not meant to be on pens and lamps was playing pretty much every game when I made my decision.

      Yaya - I've said all I'll say on him. I'd be very surprised if he scores more than 180pts next season.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I agree with everything you say there. I stand by my decisions (based on stats) not to get Ramsey, Gerrard or Ramsey but in hindsight i should have jumped on the wagon and not been so stubborn

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        1. Dino
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          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Personally I think Ramsey is probably the only real mistake you made.

          In my experience the cheaper players that may sustain form are more dangerous than the expensive ones as it is almost impossible to get an alternative to a cheap player that will score as well whereas with an expensive player there are a lot of top end options that will score well or you can go cheaper and spread the cash allowing you to make up the points that way.

          In the last few years I snapped up Adam, Michu, Fellaini and Ramsey (although a little late to the party I realised I had to cover the chance that he would sustain his form) after learning this lesson when I avoided Stephen Ireland back in the day.

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      2. getfunky
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        "I never owned Gerrard, Coleman, Hazard and only had Yaya for three weeks but still managed 3.1k after a small drop the last gw. You don't necessarily have to have the highest points scorers as long as you spend the money saved on the big hitters wisely"

        yeah but thats you, judging by the constant whinging about players like yaya & gerrard trolling the site all yr it seems youre a minority there.

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        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Of course it helps to have them but the point I was trying to make is you shouldn't use not having them as an excuse as there are many ways to skin a cat (wherever that saying came from?).

          As Giggs Boson says above he never had Yaya for most of the season either and I think he captained Rooney as his most captained player unlike almost everyone in the game who went Suarez.

          The more useful post of mine is probably the second one which is a valuable lesson I've learned through avoiding a cheap highly owned player who "could not possibly sustain there form" in Stephen Ireland. If I ever see a cheap player who is on excellent form and has any possible chance of maintaining it I will be on it asap ever since.

          I don't think missing out on the Yaya's, Hazard's and Gerrards are what kills (unless they are valid capt choices and the majority of people are captaining them) it is the cheaper players that are highly owned that you can't get an alternative.

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          1. getfunky
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            i dunno, i'm not saying you have to have them to do well, youve already proven otherwise, i just think the overwhelimng attitude towards someone like yaya all season long reflects the impact not having him has had on their saesons, if it didnt they wouldnt have reason to complain, would they? "the yr of the casuals" etc

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            1. Dino
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              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Yeah I hear ya.

              I think most of the complaining is due to illogical returns though.

              You don't hear people whining about Suarez doing so well or Hazard to a degree but when a team gets 10 penalties in 19 games and you don't have the player taking the penalties for that team then you will feel aggrieved just the same as if you have the penalty taker for man city who gets injured/substituted more than he has in any other season in his history and the second penalty taker actually takes 6 penalties to your takers 1 then you will feel aggrieved.

              It is the unjustified returns that people don't like imo

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              1. getfunky
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                yeah you're probably right, I guess it's just more comforting for people to have a scapegoat & single out a player rather than your own poor choices if you chose to not have him.

                you talk a lot of sense

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  8. Dino
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Template teams good or bad?

    Template teams are not necessarily a bad thing for the experienced player imo.

    Normally a template team only lasts for a few gws as it usually consists of form players so by the time the casuals bring in the form players to create the template the experienced player is usually looking at who to swap these players out for i.e. who will be the next form player.

    Every year the players that hit form in the first half of the season are quickly gathered into a template team but they rarely sustain this form over a whole season so the experienced knowledgeable player can usually make up big ground by going away from this template while the casuals just see the overall score of a player and think they can't drop them.

    I have had many seasons where I have railed against illogical bandwagons pre xmas only to find myself lagging behind in the second half of the season before through sticking to my principles and only getting on logical wagons I inevitably turn it around into a respectable finish.

    I guess what I'm saying is template teams are not all bad as the experienced players can beat them by looking past this week's template to get in the players that will be in the template in the future before everyone else gets them.

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      The trick is getting them before they are template players. If you have a template team it means you have been scoring well. You still have to make the right changes every week.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I agree. It's like looking at the top teams and seeing a certain % owns a top scoring player like Ramsey or yaya. It's kind of obvious, otherwise they won't be at the top of the leader board.

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    2. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Ah, but what annoyingly happened this year was differential players we brought in away from the template, give or take, ended up getting same points as a 'template' player, really wound me up in my mini league....

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        It happens every year to an extent but the likes of AJ, Nolan, Eriksen, Puncheon etc all served me well in the second half of the season and foregoing the template Hazard, Yaya etc in midfield for these lesser players worked a treat for me.

        Also going away from the template cheap defense and doubling up on Chelsea defense worked out well (I had double chelsea defense from gw10 on so probably cost me as much in the first half of the season as I gained in the second half).

        Boruc and a cheap goalkeeper was the way to go pre xmas too but anyone that switched to Sunderland gk and or defender did well too. I remember saying to people I was looking at a Sunderland def and being laughed at (I also remember laughing at people bringing in Ward and Speroni/Gabiddon which didn't work out so well for me 😳 )

        If there was no template I would not have been able to make up so much ground last year from 311k in gw22 to 3.1k in 16 gw's.

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        1. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Oh of course, funnily though I'm only interested in my cash ML & what I said was aimed predominantly at that rather than (overall) but your point above is spot on 🙂

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  9. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    "I am weighing up my options for playing next season with my agent and sadly it does not look like Chelsea will be one of them."

    So that's Cole leaving.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Madrid or United imo.

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      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Depends on big a wage cut he'll be willing to take. I'm not ruling out MLS either.

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        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          *how big

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    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      great buy by whoever gets him

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      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Big wages might be the issue.

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        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Cashley gets a taste of his own medicine .

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          1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            😀

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    3. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Madrid most probably..even Juventus eying him

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      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Could well wind up there for a season.

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  10. What will ManU's defence look like next season?
    FACUPARSE
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    De Gea

    Rafael Jones Smalling Buttner

    Top 4 😆

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    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      tbf de gea and jones are quality...they obviously still need a couple of defenders to have a shout

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Jones is ok, usually has fitness issues... De Gea can't do much with a defence like that

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    2. HVT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Is Buttner even in the Dutch squad ?

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      1. pompeyfan
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        no

        I submitted an article about the squad so maybe that will go up at some point

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        1. J0E
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          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Its scheduled for this week. Keep an eye out in the community section and articles tab on the right. 🙂

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    3. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Could be this though. Looks a little better.

      De Gea

      Rafael/Jones Evans Hummels Shaw

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        This! most probably the defense would end like this..and this doesn't look bad..

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      2. HVT
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Do you think Rafael is any good Jonty ?
        Always seems injured and reminds me of a headless chicken , is there any hope for him ?

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        1. J0E
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          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          From an FPL point of view he has potential if 5m or under and has been a good when not injured. As a player, no I think he is as you say one of those headless chicken players that runs and runs and then messes up too often.

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        2. Vardy Gras PBFC
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Rafael is a liability. Prone to switching off at the wrong times and partial to a red as well.

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          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            LVG will knock the headless chicken bit out of him at least. If he is not able to follow a tactical plan he won't stay in the team.

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      3. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        That would be some defence.

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      4. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Could look like that, but we can only rely go on what it looks like at the moment, and at the moment it is awful.

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    4. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      having a bad day kid?
      taking frustration out on United here because maybe someone made fun of Arsenal at school and you couldn't do anything about it?

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Seeing scout tweet about United winning the league next season set me off....

        Bit bored at work also

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        1. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          You still haven't replied to the tweet I see. 😉

          And to anyone else - worth following us on @ffscout as well.

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        2. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          hahaha..okay

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        3. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          your forgetting the likely additions of shaw/sagna!

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      2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        haha "someone made fun of arsenal at school"

        glad that's over 😀

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        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          yup this also updated with a Gerrard touch. http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/

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          1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            lol

            youll never win again!

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    5. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Surely they will strengthen? I expect at least a first choice left back and possibly a right back so that could read for instance

      Rafael/(new rb), Jones, Evans, Shaw

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    6. Damo.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      You'd have to worry about Jones. He's the type of defender who puts himself where you wouldn't but a shovel but I don't think his body is up to it. I don't think you can teach him to be anything else.

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      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Yeah Jones would be quality but injures himself more than any player I've ever seen. Rafael 12/13 was beastly defensively and offensively and it looked like he had finally calmed down, he dropped off this year due to injuries and his old habits of losing focus and making rash tackles came back. I still think he's a quality player though, just requires the right manager to set him straight

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      2. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Rafael is still a quality player and to me when fit has often been one of our standout players this season.

        Shaw looks wrapped up at left back.

        Between Jones/Smalling/Evans just need one to stay fit and play alongside someone new as a commanding presence.

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    7. Chris_White
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Going with Oscar instead of Gerrard in the January WC defined my season 🙁

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      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        as per above how were you to now Liverpool would get 10 penalties in the final 19 games of the season? Sometimes you just can't allow for luck.

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        1. Chris_White
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Yeah well it was the more risky option, but I would probably have done the same over again. He was looking in good form (just scored that cracker against Stoke in the cup) and they had kind fixtures in that period. Shame...

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        2. @persecuted_by_mods
            9 years, 11 months ago

            That is an unusually high amount but it's not just luck, there was a stage where you could see that Suarez, Sterling and Sturridge were just too much for defences to cope with and penalties would be given

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        3. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Ouch.

          I remember the whole TeamHazard Vs TeamOscar shenanigans 😆

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          1. Chris_White
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Haha yeah. Oscar was horrible after Christmas. Pity.

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        4. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          For me it was Negredo over Sturridge. Was convinced he'd get a hatrick at home to Cardiff, and at the time he was more expensive than Sturridge so I thought it'd be an easy move to make. Cost me a lot of points and funds.

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      2. Blue Lion
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        BLUE LION - UNDER UPDATION.
        Ok..Dont have the budget for Mr.P long name Greek. Just have enough budget for Tzavellas or Vyntra..Whom to choose?
        Its for Betford Fantasy i team.

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        1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          torosidis maybe?

          vyntra for me

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      3. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Getting as lot of greens today. You see I do contribute 🙂

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        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          The hulks are picked at random by the looks of it.

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        2. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          You are doing a great job promoting our twitter account today. 🙂

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          1. FACUPARSE
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Anything to help the cause...

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      4. WorldCupDanB
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Are there any players who are nailed on to start in the world cup and also nailed on to take penalties, I'm wanting to get a list together for all the countries. I'll do a google doc if there is enough interest.

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        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Messi.
          Ronaldo

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        2. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Ribery
          Rvp

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        3. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Messi
          Ronaldo
          Neymar
          Pirlo
          Suarez
          Gerrard
          Yaya Toure

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            You sure about Yaya with Drogba and Bony in the same team?

            😉

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            1. Moin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              not fully sure..

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            2. Baines on Toast...
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              once they've been subbed off 😀

              Got a TGS bet on Yaya at 150/1.

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        4. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Alonso, for Spain.

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      5. Joga Bonito®
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Reckon Yaya will leave in the summer or do you think it's just media trying to cook something up?

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        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Highly doubtful, but you never know.

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        2. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          no. No one will pay him that money. Unless he gets an offer from Russia or the Middle East

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          1. Bubz
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            😆

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        4. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Agent trying to get him a pay rise..

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        5. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          we are in silly season with the papers having nothing to fill the sports pages with so they just make stuff up. Nothing would surprise me with Yaya as he clearly went to city in the first place for money so he is in effect a mercenary and like most players these days in it to make as much as he can before he retires.

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      6. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Who would have thought buying a new badminton racket would be so difficult

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        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          which kind of grip are you going for?

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            G4 probably

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        2. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          haha, I know. I once stupidly went into the Nike store in London and asked if they sold badminton rackets, the guy said he'd never even heard of badminton.

          Lillywhites in London was really good and cheap for rackets

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Haha 🙂 Cheers mate im down in london a couple of times next week so i'll have a look 🙂

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      7. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        If Ramsey is 9.0m, I won't be going near. Walcott is likely to be the same, with Ozil not far off.

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        1. Qubit
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Walcott better option at that price point. However, thats assuming he's fit and also that he comes back with the same turn of speed from waht was quite a nasty injury.

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        2. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Walcott > Ramsey > Ozil

          In FPL terms of course.

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah, I think this.

            I think Ozil will up his game next season though. He could be an FPL force...

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            1. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Needs a better striker first.

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            2. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              I think Ozil will step up too but have a sneaky feeling he may need pens to get enough goals to make him worth it from an fpl perspective especially with the new bonus system.

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              1. Baines on Toast...
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                can't see ozil getting pens based on that one vs. bayern, he doesn't seem like a steely enough character to handle them.

                Now, Ramsey with pens...

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                1. Dino
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Possibly not Baines but isn't he on them for Germany? and aren't German peno takers supposed to be the best in the world?

                  Arteta has them until he is phased out of the team in any case and it looks like Giroud is next on them with Ozil third so it doesn't look like Rambo will be getting them anytime soon.

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                  1. Baines on Toast...
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Had no idea he was on them for Germany to be fair. Think there's a chance the Bayern one may keep them off Ozil for the forseeable, but who knows.

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        3. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          when you consider he is a potential 20 goal a season man, it could very well be worth it

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Do you not think that with Walcott in the team he won't get as many opportunities to get in the box?

            We all know how Wally plays. And with him making so many runs off the defenders, supplied by Ozil, Ramsey and Caz... *drool*

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            1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              I think the ramsey walcott double up could be great

              walcott knows how to make an assist, and with ramsey making those unmarked runs into the box with everyone trying to catch theo he could do even better

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        4. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          he is a better pick than ozil. and walcott will be eased in surely, would rather have ramsey at the beginning

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        5. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Really GB? Do you not see Ramsey continuing his form next season?

          At 6.3 ppg (his ppg from this season) if he had played 34 games he'd have roughly 214 pts so I'd have thought he would be worth 9m but whether I can fit him in is another question.

          He had the sixth highest ppg in the league and the second highest for a midfielder but the question is can he do it over a full season?

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            He'll be a good option but I think Wally will dent his returns. He'll hog the space up front meaning Ramsey will have to hang back more and supply passes imo.

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            1. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Good reasoning, this was the reason I spent so long before getting on the Ramsey wagon last year as I thought Walcott coming back would hinder him.

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            2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              i think the opposite. I think walcott will occupy defenders and create more space for ramsey

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              1. Piggs Boson
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                https://i.imgur.com/RG0BS1U.gif
                Aaaannd now I don't know what to think 🙂

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                1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  I had both for a while last season. if arsenal's fixtures are good there is nothing wrong with that

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                  1. Piggs Boson
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Won't be able to afford it at the start though, shirley.

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                    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      would avoid walcott until he has built up match fitness. I expect wenger to be very cautious with him this time http://www.squawka.com/news/dutch-fitness-coach-claims-arsenal-are-messing-with-walcott/58831

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                  2. Dino
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    As long as you can afford both! there are going to be some tears when the prices are released I'd say 😀

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              2. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                I was just going to post something similar Carrick. If Walcott can stretch defences and cross the ball then Ramsey is likely to be the main midfielder that will be able to get on the end of them.

                I do think he will be worth it at 9m though his movement off the ball and finishing were exceptional this season. All depends on if he can have similar form next season but he reminds me so much of Fabregas in his prime that I think he can.

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                1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  this exactly

                  don't think form is a worry, he has found his new level and will stay there

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        6. getfunky
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          as long as he keeps up his 'new lampard' tag he'll be a consideration.

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        7. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          He might well be 9.5 - and I'll still be on him I reckon.

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      8. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Still undecided as to what to make of my FPL season....

        Finished with plenty of greens, and a season high rank of 26.3k. The Rooney injury scuppered me badly, I guess the same for many others, as it not only meant I only had my sub's 5 points for that week, but wasted a transfer getting Sturridge back for him when I had planned AJ>Gerrard to treble up on Pool and City for GW39. Even though AJ scored points it was 5 less than Gerrard! The injury potentially cost me a top 20k rank maybe a little higher. I did the transfer on the Wednesday post Champions league etc, kicking myself for not waiting till the Friday at the last minute and saving the 4 point hit that I took... Hey ho!

        Slip sliding away too, 26k this year, 18k last, 12k before that. The heady heights of 4k may never be reached again! 🙂

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      9. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        http://youtu.be/YlsJIymDVxo?t=2m32s

        yaya toure did get a cake.

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        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          I saw it as well. Seems like either the Sun have made it up or it's specifically the other people (not the team mates) at the club. Still, I reckon it's the Sun spouting poo.

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        2. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Man City fan in the comments 😆

          "Question is who do we get in now?"

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        3. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Seems Yaya very much enjoys Abu Dhabi, might want to stay over there...

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      10. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        @Moin - It doesn't look like Yaya is on peno's for Ivory coast.

        Drogba scored 1 vs Morocco and 1 vs Senegoal in the qualifiers while Yaya was on the pitch. He also scored 1 vs Mexico in a friendly(Yaya didn't play)

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      11. Dušan Citizen
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        FPL team next season something like this:Cech,4m-Cahill,Koscielny,Trippier,Dann,cheapest Stoke defender-Hazard,Silva,Walcott,Arnautovic,Bryson/other mid cheaper than 5-Suarez,Giroud/Bony,Lambert..something like this,ofc there will be some changes

        For WC team surely players who will be in my team are Ronaldo,Neymar in attack,Yaya,Hazard and Najar in mid,Srna,Debuchy,Mascherano in defence,and Neuer as gk xD

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        1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          ramsey over wally, considering he is unlikely to be fully fit at the start of the season

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          1. Dušan Citizen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah bro,but Ramsey will be around 9,and that too much for him..I prefer more attacking players like Ozil or Wally 🙂 If he is not fit,I will add Eriksen instead of Arsenal mid and will strengthen my attack 😀

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            1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              leave him out at your peril 😀

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        2. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          You must have a much higher FPL budget than all of us! 😯

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            He supports citeh, what do you expect 😉

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          2. Dušan Citizen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            I was waiting for idiot comments like this :3 I will make some changes of course..but this is something how I thinking to be

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            1. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              I mean no offence mate, it's just your team can't be anything like this. I'm just being realistic, it's not a personal attack.

              7.0 - 4.0
              7.0 - 6.5 - 5.0 - 4.5 - 4.5
              11.0 - 9.5 - 9.0 - 6.0 - 5.0
              14.0 - 9.0 - 7.5

              Nearly 110m imo.

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              1. Dušan Citizen
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Lol,I thought Cech will be around 6 xD hahah..then,maybe it will be combination of two 4.5 gks,Eriksen instead of Arsenal mid and that's it 🙂

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                1. JT's Dog
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    still cant afford that

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                  • Piggs Boson
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    I think it'll take more than that. But regarding Cech, Coutois could be the new #1, so maybe we'll see some discount on a Chelsea keeper.

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                2. JT's Dog
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    typing that must have took you longer than the response deserved

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                    1. Piggs Boson
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      Only rough values, I hope it doesn't get over-analysed 😀

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                  • Qubit
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Yep,

                    I made it about 108m choosing Bony at 8.5 and being optimistic on prices.

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                  • Dino
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    I'd say

                    6.0 - 4.0
                    6.5 - 6.5 - 5.0 - 5.0 - 5.0
                    10.5 - 9.5 - 9.5 - 6.0 - 4.5
                    14.0 - 9.0 - 7.5

                    Total 108.5 but you could probably shave a couple of million off your defence by gambling on a few cheapie defenders instead of the 5.0's.

                    Not a bad first draft and it does highlight the problem of picking a 15 man squad with a 14m striker in it.

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                  • Qubit
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Still, this does highlight how easily we forget and take for granted our accumulated team value. Always tough at the start of the season! Hazard and Suarez selected as many (including myself) are likely to want to do will use up 25% (or more) of budget for just 2 players!

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                    1. Dino
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      Yep it might mean foregoing the more obvious choices early doors to try and build some value before bringing them in. The community article I wrote was to try and pinpoint players that might be decent value next season as I think it will be practicably impossible to have all the big guns we want starting off.

                      My team will probably be built around just two big guns for solid captain choices in Hazard and RVP/ROO (whichever is playing up top in LVG formation) and try and fit some value picks in around them.

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                3. Bubz
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Calm down dear

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            2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              no way you can afford 3 big hitting mids with suarez

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            3. Dušan Citizen
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              I just want to see prices for WC players >.< 8th june is too far

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          3. WorldCupDanB
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Right Ive done a google doc of expected penalty takers for the world cup and Ill update as I go along, let me know if Ive got anything wrong or if you know any others

            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sSZkkkpihf-9C0zptI_2ieGirwCO_HohzAEXHsJ48tw/edit#gid=0

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              I think Drogba is preferred over Yaya for Ivory Coast. See my post above.

              Germany - Ozil ?
              Belgium - Hazard

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              1. WorldCupDanB
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Nice one thanks I've upated.

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Ruskies - Shirokov?

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            2. JT's Dog
                9 years, 11 months ago

                out of interest do you have idea of number of pens awarded in past cups

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Japs - Honda?

                  I'm guessing here...

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                  1. Christina.
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Reply fail to Anon.

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                  2. WorldCupDanB
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Well Ill flag them as red and then nearer the time I'll try to look into it in more detail.

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                    1. Christina.
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      Ta.

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              • Hamstergod
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Would Vidal be in contention for Chile penalties?

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              • JT's Dog
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  not sure how relevant it is to this world cup
                  but only ghana and spain got more than one pen last tourney
                  and I think half the other teams missed theirs.
                  Dont think pen takers are going to win you that car

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                  1. WorldCupDanB
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Haha true but it's all about improving performance through the aggregation of marginal gains.

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                • Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Australia's penalty taker is jedinak

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                  1. WorldCupDanB
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Thanks

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                • teddy.
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  I think Mikel is taker for Nigeria despite Enyeama being the taker for his club.

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              • Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                45 goals in 120 appearances in la liga. arsenal have to re-sign Vela and activate the £4 million buy-back clause surely? even if it is just sell him on for a profit, his market value will be at least 10 million

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                1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  would be a nice squad player definitely

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                  1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    15 goals, 11 assists this year. i think he would be preferred to podolski on the left wing

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                    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      when wally is fit santi will shift to the left...vela with his pace and skill would get plenty of gametime to allow ozil and cazorla and walcott proper rest

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                2. Dino
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Do they have a buy back clause? I think they should do this with more of their youngsters tbh

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                  1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    yes 4 million buy back clause

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              • JT's Dog
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  "Gerrard will be the only premium midfielder who is first-choice spot-kick taker for his side – both Yaya Toure and Eden Hazard still rely on Sergio Aguero and Frank Lampard’s respective absences for City and Chelsea. "

                  think we can take those absences as a given, one on treatment table and one in america

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                  1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    aye...hopefully ramsey will start taking pens if arteta drops out of the starting eleven, although ozil is the more likely option

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                    1. Funkyav
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      Lampard looks to be getting one year deal..

                      The fact that Ashley Cole isnt strengthen this theory even further.

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                    2. Wilshere Knowledge
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      Ozil wasn't on the list of 5 of penalty takers in the FA cup final.

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                      1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        yeah probably wont take pens now after his two misses...

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                • Stoichkov
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  How do people extract data from FPL to do analysis? Is there an easy way or is it too techy to understand unless you can code?

                  Got an idea for something I'd like to look at....

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                  1. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u40mJ_ls5VE

                    Similar concept.

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                • Del Monte
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Utd should offer 6million plus Cleverley for Coleman

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                  1. Piggs Boson
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    I'd bet £6m that Everton wouldn't accept that.

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                  2. Qubit
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    I wouldnt accept that if I was Everton.

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                  3. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Because Everton are idiots?

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                  4. Epic Fail
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Lol

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                  5. Damo.
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Utd should offer 6 million to just take Cleverley

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                    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      seeing as everton are prepared to pay 8 mill for him that would be silly http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-fc-boss-roberto-martinez-7020667

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                  6. Del Monte
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    How much do you think Coleman is worth?

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                    1. Somalion
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      The real issue is how much do you think Cleverley is worth?

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                      1. Qubit
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        this

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                      2. ALegendJ
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        As much as having millions of a currency of a country that doesn't exist

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                        1. Somalion
                          • 14 Years
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          😥 Damn investment scam 😥

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                      3. Del Monte
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        8 to 10 million, young and english remember

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                        1. Somalion
                          • 14 Years
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          Right so there's the issue, you value Cleverley about 2-4 million over Coleman who is only one year older than him and arguably one of the best RBs in the league.

                          My view is Cleverley would be lucky to be worth 6 million at the moment and I think Coleman could go for between 15-20 million given his last couple of seasons. Cleverley and 10-12 million is a much more realistic bid in my view and even then may be turned down.

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                          1. Dino
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 14 Years
                            9 years, 11 months ago

                            If Shaw is supposed to be going for 30m then Coleman has to be worth 25m (ish) surely? So this bid Del Monte wants utd to put in values Cleverly at 19m 😮

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                            1. Somalion
                              • 14 Years
                              9 years, 11 months ago

                              My maths was a little off as explained below but I think realistically Coleman would at the very least be going for 20 million (Shaw is exceptional because he is English as is Cleverley so Coleman would not cost quite as much but I still think 20 million is the figure.)

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                            2. Del Monte
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 12 Years
                              9 years, 11 months ago

                              Shaw is 18 and English, massive difference to Coleman and its 27mil

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                              1. Somalion
                                • 14 Years
                                9 years, 11 months ago

                                Yeah but Coleman is never going to leave Everton for less than 18 million, realistically 20 million would be the figure. If United got him for Cleverley and 6 million I honestly would claim it buy of the season.

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                          2. Somalion
                            • 14 Years
                            9 years, 11 months ago

                            Ignore that first part, brain wasn't working. But 8-10 million, So Coleman is worth 14-16 in your view?

                            See I think Everton would expect much closer to 20.

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                  7. ALegendJ
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    I'd offer Cleverly, for free, if they take him, they get J.Evans as a signing bonus. Ah the hell with it, A.Young as well.

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                  8. Dino
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Do you not think Utd should offer Cleverley to Everton and ask for 20m plus Coleman to complete the deal? I feel you are gravely underestimating Cleverly's value

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                      1. Dino
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        😀

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                  9. Lucas Leiva
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Would be even more ludicrous than the £12m offered for Baines last summer.

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                • Joga Bonito®
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Not sure how many of you like football podcasts but I find 5live's world football phone in really interesting, especially at the moment with all of the world cup build up.

                  Tim Vickery is the South American Correspondant and gives lots of information about the lesser known countries as well as his main expertise which is Brazil.

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                  1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    I don't listen to spurs fans 😉

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                    1. Joga Bonito®
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      I'm Liverpool buddy!

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                      1. Joga Bonito®
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Doh.. Tim Vickery, I get you! Fair play. Ha

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                      2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        oh ok then im ok with ya 😀

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                  2. Baines on Toast...
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    sounds good, got a link?

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                    1. Lucas Leiva
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/wf

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b043wrvv
                      (latest episode starts 1hr 5mins into the above show)

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                  3. Lucas Leiva
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Big fan, been listening for years.

                    Journos who know their stuff (Legendino most definitely being one of them) and good 'banter' (as much as I despise that word) between all of them in their respective regions.

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                  4. applebonkers
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    he is the best, by miles

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                • Piggs Boson
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  How much do we reckon Dave Nugent will be?

                  5.5m?

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                  1. Qubit
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Yep, that sounds about right, no less I wouldnt have thought. Definitely a contender for my 3rd striker spot.

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                    1. Dino
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      With the bonus points so heavily favoring the forwards I doubt anyone will be brave enough to go with a cheap forward but it would be worth looking at.

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                • Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  has everyone forgotten how highly martinez rates cleverley?

                  “I always said that, technically and tactically, Tom wasn’t a normal player in this country – he could have easily fitted into the Dutch way of playing and also had the ability of the Spanish side,” said Martinez.

                  “He is a real example of someone who has the talent but just needs the platform and environment and direction to be allowed to express himself.

                  “He is a unique type of player. He has an incredible knowledge of the game.

                  “Tactically he is well ahead of his years. He can fill roles that the team will need.”

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                  1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    could be an interesting replacement for barry

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                    1. Del Monte
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      they will sign barry on a free

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                  2. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    No wonder he thinks he's far better than he actually is.

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                • Joga Bonito®
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Any recommendations on good S.Korean defenders for the world cup?

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                  1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    hong jeong-ho from Augsburg looks good

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