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This Much We Know – Gameweek 21

With Gameweek 21 behind us, we cast an eye over a number of issues raised by the weekend’s matches. Palace’s intent to attack under Alan Pardew, Chelsea’s diminishing number of reliable defensive options, Alexis Sanchez’ importance to the Gunners and the lack of cohesion at United are all on our lunchtime menu.

The Chelsea rearguard options have narrowed…
A 2-0 win over Newcastle earned the league leaders a fifth straight clean sheet in front of their own fans at the weekend. Whilst their consistency of defensive returns at the Bridge shows no sign of wavering, Saturday’s team sheet suggests that only two of his back four – John Terry and Branislav Ivanovic – can be relied upon regardless. With Gary Cahill and Thibaut Courtois both benched and Cesar Azpilicueta rested in two of the previous four Gameweeks prior to limping off against the Magpies, Terry and Ivanovic – two of only seven defenders to play every minute of the season so far – look the main contenders for those determined to roll out a Chelsea defensive double-up with their winter Wildcards.

Baines is still an option…
Sold by over 90,000 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers prior to the weekend showdown with City, the Everton left-back once again served a reminder of his points potential by supplying the assist for Steven Naismith’s leveler. Granted, a run of 11 matches without a clean sheet leaves Baines relying on attacking returns more than ever this season but his creativity is still ticking over nicely – eight assists is more than twice the number of any defender, aside from Newcastle’s Daryl Janmaat. Baines’ recent return to form now sees him sit fifth for defenders and highlights the strength of his capabilities, regardless of the Toffees’ lack of resilience.

Carroll’s not a one-trick ponytail…
A stunning strike against Swansea showed that the big target man has more in his locker than mere brute force and aerial dominance. Carroll bullied Garry Monk’s side into submission at Upton Park early last month and clearly fancied his chances again at the weekend as he helped claim a point for Sam Allardyce’s side. Having played a part in five of the Hammers’ last nine goals, he’ll need to retain his form as the fixtures takes a real turn for the worse after this weekend’s home clash with Hull.

Pardew’s got goals on his mind…
Given that Palace had scored just twice in the seven league matches prior to Alan Pardew’s installation, expectations were muted as Spurs rolled up to Selhurst Park on Saturday evening. The new Eagles boss stuck by his promise to attack, though, and saw his side fire in 21 attempts, with 15 shots arriving inside the box – no other team bettered those stats over the Gameweek. Pardew is determined to go on the offensive to ensure Palace’s survival and all of a sudden Jason Puncheon, with a goal and maximum bonus in the 2-1 turnaround, looks a valid midfield option at 5.5.

United are far from the finished article…
As the Old Trafford treatment room starts to empty, Louis van Gaal is more spoilt for choice than ever before. As we saw against the Saints, though, it seems that the United boss is still far from certain over his preferred personnel and the Reds’ lack of cohesiveness saw them meekly surrender their ten-match unbeaten run. Omitting Radamel Falcao from the matchday squad altogether ahead of a showdown with the league’s tightest defence proved disastrous – Angel Di Maria, then Wayne Rooney, were utilised up front in the Colombian’s absence, whilst fit-again Daley Blind spent the match as part of a back three. United face all three of the promoted sides in the next four Gameweeks but their manager’s tinkering is failing to instil us with any sort of confidence in their main men.

We can’t consider shedding Sanchez…
With Santi Cazorla in form, the likes of Theo Walcott, Aaron Ramsey and Mesut Ozil back in action, and Olivier Giroud free from suspension, the idea of parting company with the premium-priced Arsenal man had entered a few Fantasy managers’ winter Wildcard heads. Sanchez had scored just once in the previous six matches as Stoke rolled up to the Etihad but his two goals and assist earned owners a 19-point haul and elevated him to the summit of the FPL standings. “Essential” is a daunting tag to place on any player but one look at Arsenal’s fixtures after their weekend showdown with City suggests few, if any, will be quite so brave to go without the Chilean from here on in.

The Ospina Option could force a Wildcard rethink…
Perhaps it was mere coincidence that Arsene Wenger’s decision to drop Wojciech Szczesny at home to Stoke earned Arsenal a first clean sheet in seven attempts. We’ve been waiting for signs that the north London outfit can rediscover the steely showings that served up 17 clean sheets in the previous season, and as the fixtures improve dramatically from Gameweek 23 onwards, Sunday’s shut-out hints at a reprisal of that resilience. Post-match, Arsene Wenger insisted the Pole was still his number one but was undecided whether to bring him back into the fold for the trip to City – another start for Ospina, at just 4.8 in FPL, could persuade some to reconsider their goalkeepers for their winter Wildcard.

The Saints back four care little for reputation…
United welcomed Southampton to Old Trafford having scored 22 goals in their opening 10 home fixtures – only their weekend opponents and Chelsea had scored more in front of their own fans. Southampton, though, are made of stern stuff under Ronald Koeman, and for all that’s since been made of their hosts’ failings, let’s not forget that the Red Devils were up against the league’s best defence. Sunday served up a tenth clean sheet for the St Mary’s outfit, who have also kept out Everton and Arsenal in the last five Gameweeks, and with the fixtures starting to turn in their favour, Koeman’s backline regulars may well have just cemented a spot in our Wildcard plans.

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  1. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Seeing lots of Chadli in WC. Has tough fixtures! Think ill stick to downing.

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Shitty top of page comment

      1. Chambo
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        eh?

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He does not. You are mistaken.

      TOT: SUN 267 wba 228 ARS 18 liv -178 WHM 153 qpr 167 SWA 185 mun -119 LEI 293 bur 210 AVL 262

      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        This

      2. Bubz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Hello Doosra. What is your stance on Aguero, you getting him this week?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          No. I got him yesterday. 😀

          1. Bubz
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Ah just seen you have RvP, so a simple swap for you. I'm struggling to get him in without wildcarding, so thinking of holding off and hoping for the best until GW23/24

      3. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Doos even u went with the template on WC. I was hoping u too do something different this time. I was cheering 4 it even. #Dissapointed 🙁

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          I have not played my wild card. 😕

          1. @ImpressiveTackl
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            😆

      4. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        WHM a positive number? For Spurs? Surely a mistake?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          How is that a mistake? It is a blue for Spurs(just), red for us ...

          1. Pasqualinho
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            It's just that it must hurt for a Hammers fan to type that. You really are a slave to your art.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              😆 Comment is free; facts are sacred. 😉

      5. Gimli son of Gloin
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Sunderland load up at the back.
        West Brom is a tough game now.
        Arsenal is a derby neither team will want to lose
        Liverpool is likewise.. could be tough.
        West Ham aren't a bad side by any means
        Swansea are decent at the back. Not so much away from home though
        United will surely be tight at the back by that stage, Van Gaal will get it right.

        1. Gimli son of Gloin
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Though I do have Chadli..

    3. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Not as tough as Downing though..... :confusedemoticondontknowwhatitis:

  2. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    RP

    Burning question

    Do I keep Eriksen or switch to ADM for FT?

    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Keep Eriksen for me.

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Only for you Parm, done.

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I would be tempted to keep. He is due a big haul

    3. Doctor X
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      If you are planning to on your WildCard, which teams would you consider doubling up on in attack besides Chelsea?

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        City

  3. Hibbopotamus
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Got about 13 mil to spend on a FWD/MID combo. Kane/Downing? Austin/Chadli? Kane/Chadli? Anything else?

    1. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Austin/Chadli IMO

    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      go with kane

    3. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Go to Vegas with 13m. Enjoy it 😉

    4. Davros
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Kane downing. Kane good captain option this week, as is downing

  4. Gooner97
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Ok, I'm close to something. I'm not planning to play my WC now, maybe next GW. I have to spend the 2FT, especially with Aguero's price..

    Heaton (Mannone)
    Clyne, Ivanovic, Wisdom, Hutton, OShea
    Downing, Siggy, Sanchez, Hazard, Boyd
    Austin Costa Rooney

    2FT, £1.0 ITB
    A) Ivan & Rooney => Aguero & Cahill/Bertrand
    B) Rooney and Siggy/Downing => Aguero & Puncheon

    Leaning towards B atm....but undecided who to sell between Downing or Siggy.

    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      b, siggy

      1. Gooner97
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Has to be Siggy, but atm I can't sell him for a premium midfielder...Puncheon is just a GW punt..
        Probably I'd want Siggy back one day...

  5. pressdpm
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    How is this looking for a wildcard team?

    Forster / Hamer
    Cahil / Fonte / Trippier / Wisdon / PvA
    Sanchez / Hazard / Siggy / Downing / Boyd
    Kane / Aguero / Costa

    0.1 off getting it

    1. Punty
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Bit weak midfield but could work.. prefer Terry or Iva over Cahill and Clyne/Bert over Fonte

      1. pressdpm
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Not sure who else I could get to improve the midfield

  6. Parm
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Whilst the Chelsea defence is the best in the league, is there really that much 'value' there?

    Compared to Clyne/Bertrand, the Swansea, Villa, Sunderland and WBA defences, I don't think so personally.

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Haven't had a Chelsea defender all season

    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Terry and Ivan potentially. They always end up with a ton of points overall for their price. Think I'm going without though. More attack is more fun

    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      The thing is, if you go with Austin and Kane, money really isnt a problem, so value is not as important as gross points.

    4. Not Irish
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Erm, it's not the best in the league.

    5. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Screw this, read below....

    6. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Chelsea defence is one of the only occasions I agree with having 'coverage'. I feel I pretty much have to have some Chelsea defensive coverage because so many people own one, and lets face it, they get the most clean sheets.

  7. Stannage
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    s this wildcard good to go?...Do I double up on wba defenders and get Baird as well as wisdom?...and if so, who for...Cameron or wasilevski?

    Panty. Gamer.
    Terry. Gardos. Cameron. Wisdom. Wasilevski
    adm. Sanchez. Hazard. Siggy. Boyd.
    Kane. Kun.Costa...

    Thabks!

  8. Costa vs Fabregas for Chelsea coverage
    Ludo
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    It seems that choosing the three best Chelsea players is the key wildcard decision; this is my extended take on it as things stand. After much deliberation, I've changed my mind, and decided that I prefer Costa to Fabregas for my team. Partly, it's because I think Costa is more likely to keep up or improve on his form of 15 goals in 18 games than Fabregas is to his 14 assists in 20 games. It's also because of Costa's captaincy credentials, due to his consistency at the Bridge (even if you have Hazard), where he's scored in all but one of his nine league matches.

    It probably has a little bit to do with safety and security, too, as it's an easy switch from Costa to any in form striker you might emerge (i.e. Sturridge, Bony, Pelle, Giroud, Falcao), and there is his ownership in the top 10k, which is around 80% to Fabregas's 30%. Going for a cheap option instead, to spend the funds elsewhere, could lead to your team needing major surgery later on.

    The main reason, however is coverage. I don't mean ‘coverage’ in the sense of “don't have more than one player from a team”, because that's rubbish. I mean that it's more possible to 'cover' Fabregas's points than Costa's your other Chelsea players.

    Hazard has a higher PPG (6.1) than Costa or Fabregas (they are tied on 5.7), and the highest PPG of the three at home (an excellent 7.8). He's been in brilliant form lately and for me, he's a lock. There’s an argument to be made for pairing him with both Fabregas and Costa, but I don’t think it’s worth losing out on the value of a Chelsea defender.

    Terry and Ivanovic are now the joint top scoring defenders, the only two who have played every game for Chelsea. They’ve kept 7 clean sheets in the last 10 and conceded only three at home all season (two in GW4 against Swansea). They’re only likely to keep things tighter over the second half. Terry's advantage over Ivanovic, to me, is that he's 0.6m cheaper, and has shown a bigger a goal threat - in all competitions, he has 5 goals and 2 assists to Ivanovic's 2 goals and 4 assists. He's also the better performer in the Bonus Points System.

    So, the question is which one of Fabregas and Costa to choose alongside Terry and Hazard.

    Both players have been involved in 16 Premier League goals, with 15 goals and 1 assist for Costa, and 2 goals and 14 assists for Fabregas.

    Of the 16 Premier League goals Costa has scored or assisted, Terry, Hazard and Fabregas have been involved in 7, which is roughly 44%.

    Of the 16 Premier League goals Fabregas has scored or assisted, Terry, Hazard and Costa have been involved in 10, which is roughly 63%.

    This has also borne out in the cup competitions - of the 23 goals Fabregas has scored or assisted in all competitions, Terry, Hazard and Costa have been involved in 14, which is roughly 61%.

    The final factor I see as a massive argument for Costa over Fabregas is that you get more points for goals than for assists. Whilst Costa has not assisted Fabregas for a single goal, Fabregas has assisted Costa four times.

    Of the five league goals where Hazard and Fabregas have shared involvement, Hazard has been the scorer of four. In all competitions, Fabregas has assisted Hazard five times, while it has happened the other way round just twice.

    With Terry, you also have the prime target for one of Fabregas's main sources of points - set pieces. Terry has scored once in the league from a Fabregas delivery, and twice more in the Champions League. Simply, with all three of Terry, Hazard and Costa, most of the time that Fabregas gets points for an assist, you'll be the getting points for the goalscorer.

    1. Not Irish
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      😯

      1. Colonel Wasabi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Reminds me of your grav !

      2. Scarecrow Snowman
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I agree with this but with some slight modifications:
        - Terry will keep getting shots in the box (headers from set pieces mainly) but it's luck of the draw on his goals - Ivanovic should outscore him (more shots in the box, more touches in the box, more assist opportunities) but not to the tune of the price difference - I did a look at value / (point / minute) over the past three seasons and Terry seems to be the better value
        - Baines was the only consideration here among high priced defenders - he's abnormal - to have penalties and set pieces makes him like a midfielder and he's on a half decent team - you could argue he's still worth it but not with his fixtures I think, definitely will need him back in later in the seasons though
        - Fabregas has gotten extraordinarily lucky (skill too) with his chances create to assist ratio - at more normal levels (again looking back historically at others), I see him getting maybe half or a little over half the assists he got - that's a massive difference
        - Costa has gotten unlucky (unskillful too) with his chances created to assist ratio - at more normal levels, you'd expect 2-5 assists from 30 chances created on a good Chelsea side
        - Costa has been pretty good as his shot to conversion level; Fabregas has no shooting stats whatsoever - this is also pretty convincing - you want to have midfielders who at least have potential upside and it seems to me Fabregas' upside is entirely priced in
        - All of this convinced me to go with Costa over Fabregas - I will say though, the fact that one can spend that much on a striker without set pieces is pretty frustrating - if another high priced forward were to hit form later this season, no doubt I'd consider a change

    2. Demí
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      probably your best ever post

    3. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      😯

    4. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Skimmed through it but very interesting take on it. I'm currently on Fab Haz Costa on my WC but you've made me think even more about dropping Fab and getting Terry on my WC. Nicely done!

    5. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      1, max 2 Chelsea is key. Trust me. We aren't "killing" opponents. And as the end of season and CL comes I expect to see more and more 1:0, 2:1, 2:0 max.

      Not having full house Chelsea players will be ultimate antidifferental imo. Watch it, u'll see

      1. agueroooooney
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Have to agree with this

      2. Pav A Nice Day
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Good point. Chelsea have only scored 3 goals twice (once in a losing effort to Spurs) since GWK 6

    6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Agree. But I will have Ivanovic.

      Terry will not disgrace my team.

      1. Gooner97
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        This!

      2. Not Irish
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Luis punt for me. Terry is a major thorn in the side of those of us with morals eh.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Aye. 🙁

      3. Ludo
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        That's fair enough.

    7. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Is it essential to get three players from a team who consistently score 2-0 wins?

      1. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        It shouldn't really put you off their defenders.

      2. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Also come on now, this should have been a community article.

        1. Ludo
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Probably should have been an article in retrospect, yeah.

          It was just going to be a post on Fabregas vs Costa, the part about whose points can be 'covered' more.

          Then I thought I'd justify why I wanted Terry as well as Hazard, and it grew into this post on which three Chelsea players to go for.

          Having seen how huge it was after I clicked the 'post comment' button, I was going to apologise for the length... Then I thought nah, sod it.

      3. Reedy
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        This is what I ask myself. With a high enough team value fair enough, three Chelsea is hard to argue against. But for those of us with less cash to splash I think two is enough as there is probably better value elsewhere (e.g. Saints defenders over Terry; budget striker over Costa).

        Another good post though Ludo!

    8. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      This is why I said on the previous page that you're my favourite poster

    9. Just A Hat
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      😯

    10. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      What's the TL:DR version - get Costa not Fabregas?

      What about neither?

      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Basically, when Fab gets an assist there's a good chance it's to Terry, Costa, or Hazard so just get them instead

    11. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ivanovic, Hazard and Costa for me.

    12. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks for taking the time to do this. Good food for thought. I havent decided yet. Will be interesting to see the ownership stats for top 10k change between Fab and Costa over the next two gameweeks. For that reason I will play my wildcard before GW24.

    13. Parm
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I think I might be getting a Chelsea defender after all...

      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I also still maintain my stance that Costa is completely overrated as a fantasy option and offers no value whatsoever. Only good in situations like now when most have the excess cash to afford him. I shall not be buying him, nor Fábregas.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Parm. There is one significant problem.

          ALL the strikers are crap right now. Except Austin. And Costa. And ... we hope ... Agüero.

          1. Not Irish
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            There's this chap. Named Harry Kane...

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Indeed. I have him. But his underlying stats are not strong.

              1. Not Irish
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                But he is. His footballing chi is immense.

          2. Parm
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Agüero, Kane, Austin/Ings/Sturridge(?) for me.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Ah ... Sturridge ...

              Please can we have him back, soon? 🙁

    14. rnrd
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      That's very interesting thank you. I would however add that we have to take the Ramires factor into consideration.
      Ramires is coming back from injury and I think Chelsea's offensive animation has been decreasing over the last 3-4 games. This coud result in Ramires being back in the starting XI and pushing fabregas a step forward on the field which definitely changes its appeal in terms of goal threat.

      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        You really think Oscar will get dropped for Ramires?

        1. rnrd
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          no, Willian.
          Oscar playing on the right

          1. chrisjdgrady
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Is Oscar good on the right?

            Ramires has played on the wing before hasn't he?

            Seems like Mou really likes Willian though

    15. Chambo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      +1

    16. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Re the final factor: "You get more points for goals than for assists,"

      The interesting thing is that Costa's allergy to Boners means his goal is usually only worth the 4 points (3 BAPs when he only had a single goal) compared to Cesc who has 10 BAPs from single assist games. I've personally avoided Cesc all year because he takes no shots in the box, but his ability to make an assist worth 5-6 points rather than just 3 makes me wonder if that's a mistake.

      1. Ludo
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        That's a very interesting point.

    17. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      ..but when Cesc gets that assist he makes up the difference from the Costa goal with boners.

      For 2mill less.

      1. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        This is true. I'm not knocking Costa or the posts from his supporters - but they are often very focused on the goals, and nothing else. There's more to FPL points scoring than just scoring goals.

        1. chrisjdgrady
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          True, but for a forward I really just care that he can score any week, especially if it's someone who could very likely win the Golden Boot. Scoring is all I ask of Costa right now

    18. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I don't necessarily disagree with you overall though fab assists seem to be worth close to 4 pts due to his bap magnetism. Costa goals also seem to be worth 4 pts due to the opposite.

      I actually now plan to have neither and just have terry and hazard. Using your definition of cover I will attempt to cover fab pts with silva (5.8ppg) and Costa pts with Austin (5.6ppg). I'll have 5m left over to try and make back any difference.

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Haz+Terry+Cesc here.

        Costa fecks up my whole team and actually results me in not owning JT.

        Cesc is also a perfect place holder for Walcott, might he come to the party.

    19. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Terry, Ivanovic and Hazard here.

      1. Debauchy
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Wow ! - have to lose somewhere with that though

        1. The 12th Man
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          It enabled me to have Silva instead of Fab in midfield.

          Team-
          Forster
          Terry, Ivanovic, Bertrand
          Hazard, Sanchez, ADM, Silva
          Aguero, Kane, Ings or Austin( not decided yet)

          Hamer, Boyd, PVA, Baird
          Ings gives me 0.9 itb.
          I feel Ivanovic might be able to match Fabregas + Chelsea always get a lot of clean sheets second half of season.

          1. Debauchy
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Fair enough . Not convinced that 2 " light strikers" is the way forward though

          2. RedLightning
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Very similar to mine, and should hopefully be a great differential compared with the more popular templates of having Costa or Fabregas as the third Chelsea player.

            Wish I had your OR and TV though!

    20. Debauchy
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks Ludo. Skimmed through , feel better about going Haz and Costa now ( thats it)

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        For me neither. No Costa no Fabregas in my team. End of story. They also have blank in GW 26

        1. chrisjdgrady
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Yikes didn't know that

          1. Debauchy
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            What ?

        2. Kagawa-san-mia
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          why do they have blank ??
          i dont see that on the site

        3. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          The blank would be in GW27, and only if they beat Liverpool in the semi-final.

          And if they do then they will also have a DGW later.

    21. Sid07
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Top post mate, made my wc decisions easy

    22. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Excellent analysis. This assumes that Terry, Haz, and Costa will score sufficient goals, aside from other Chelsea scorers, to outweigh having Fabregas. I can see a good argument for having Fabregas in lieu of Costa because Hazard and Oscar (and some other random Chelsea players) make the goal scoring spread out. Fabregas, on the other hand, gets the majority of the assists.

      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Only if the past always predicted the future you would have been right on the % analysis. However that is not the case so u r wrong

    23. Exeter Gently
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      not that you need it but have an upvote. however, im still sticking with habregerry. costa, for all his goals, is like cryptonite to baps. would rather have fab and haz who are rewarded with bonus points, regardless of whether assists are worth less than goals.

    24. chocolove
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      are you considering fab cs points over costa?

    25. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm going with neither currently - but mainly with one eye on potential League Cup final blank for Chelsea and there are great options in midfield and forwards. If I were to go for one though I'd definitely get Fabregas - its all about the bonus and for a long term acquisition that's key.

    26. The Non Flying Dutchman
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Good thought provoking article.

      My Argument would be that Terry isn't needed.

      If you look at value/season = Clyne And Bertrand sit above Terry so for me they are better options. And with most playing 343 it is easy to rotate in a 3rd cheapie with a good fixture.

      Even excluding fixtures I have chosen ADM over Cesc for his goal potential. Toure will be an option to on his return.

    27. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      An intelligent, ideally constructed, well researched post is so rare on this site.
      Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this.

      I agree with you for the most part but beware
      As with any statistic, its not always so cut and dry

      There will probably be a standard deviation in there somewhere, which may or may not alter the final results.
      ie Costa picks up a few more yellows and gets the 10YC suspension or unfortunate injury perhaps

      Which of the two will get more points? Only time will tell.

      Merry go around right now. Two weeks ago it was all about Fab + Haz, all of the sudden Costa scores a couple goals back to back and everyone is back on Costa .

      😆

    28. Koflok
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Opportunity cost though.

      Let's assume Kun Kane + Hazard Sanchez is nailed 100% on any WC team.

      Costa is more expensive than Fabregas (obviously) and for most it's a choice between

      a) Fabregas + Austin + 2m
      b) Costa + Siggy

      In that scenario I honestly think it's a coin toss. But not everyone have the luxury of the 2m presented above. I use mine to upgrade defense which itself will give me more points potential.

      I'm lucky enough to have a high SV (over 104m) so Costa + Siggy is possible alongwith Hazard Sanchez and another 9m midfielder (ADM, Walcott, Silva, etc).

      This means that those with Costa will most likely have to sacrifice one of the premium midfielder to another 6-7m (Chadli, Downing).

      Now in that situation, you end up being more not flexible as you have 2 mid priced midfielder rather than just 1 mid priced forward.

      And again, we all have our preference (such as mine with Fabregas) so we can be a bit bias when we present our case. But I don't see how Costa is more likely to keep up his goals than Fabregas to assist at this rate. Nothing changed.

    29. FantaCity
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Great article. Re-Fab v Costa, worth mentioning that the difference between a midfielder assist and a forward goal is only 1 pt, therefore if Fabregas continues earning bonus points faster than Costa (currently 20 to Costa's 11), he will continue out-scoring Costa, as indeed he is now by 114pts to 103pts

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Costa yellow cards and fab cs points are another huge swing for the points totals

    30. Pav A Nice Day
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      "Simply, with all three of Terry, Hazard and Costa, most of the time that Fabregas gets points for an assist, you'll be the getting points for the goalscorer."

      That last sentence should be in bold. Very good point. However, you're not factoring in one of the biggest reasons, which is price. Not getting Costa means you'll probably be looking at Austin, Kane, Ings, Giroud etc. This money can vastly improve the rest of your team

    31. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm starting to think Haz, Ivan, Terry could be best...

      1. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        that's what I have.

    32. Ludo
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lots of replies to this, can't hope to keep up with them all, so here's a sort of all-purpose response:

      Fabregas does earn more bonus, so perhaps he will get more points per assist than Costa will per goal. That's a fair argument, and it will be interesting to see whether Fabregas will be able to match Costa's goals.

      Obviously, team value and the rest of your side has to influence every decision you make. I'm really looking at Costa vs Fabregas pretty much in isolation here, for my own team's purposes. I'm not saying that Terry/Hazard/Costa is the optimal selection of Chelsea players, and I'm not necessarily saying that you need to get three Chelsea players at all.

      This game would be very boring if there was no difference of opinion or room for debate, so it's great to see the variety of approaches that people are taking. What I was looking to do here was to set out my own solution to this problem, and then justify it in detail. The result has been a great reaction, so I'm very happy that I took the effort. Thanks for your the comments, and keep them coming. As ever, I'll be reading with interest! 🙂

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Clean sheet points

    33. Colonel Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lovely post. Thank you Ludo.

      Had already made my mind up to keep Terry/Haz/Costa, but it's nice to have someone justify your thinking.

      Even if it turns out to be wrong !! I won't be blaming you that's for certain 😉

    34. Kalix
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Cahill Terry Hazard

      1. Kurt Zouma
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I wouldn't put it past Zouma keeping his spot.

    35. Geoff
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Great job mate. Considering going just Hazard myself. Fabregas' history of slowing late in seasons, plus there are so many midfield options. Costa has high ownership though, and I'm trying to gauge how popular in the top 10k he'll be post wildcard. And Terry is so expensive. Double Southampton Wbrom Sund and maybe ManU for me.

      Best post in a while.

    36. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      The question for me with Fab over Costa, isn't just a comparison between the two players, but how that extra money can be used. So many good budget striker options. So few midfield ones (sub 6.4 certainly). With fab you can spread your options more evenly. With Costa (and kun) you have to have the dirtiest bench ever.

    37. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Great post. I'm in the Cesc camp for now but that may change.

    38. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Great post, I couldn't agree more.

      Another important factor is that fabrigas goals and assists have dramatically dropped off in the last 5 seasons, which is one of the main reasons he was sold by barca.

      http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/138/spain/2014/06/13/4879178/barcelona-fabregas-performances-got-worse-each-season

    39. pax888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Interesting reading, I have to say though I'm more Fabregas than Costa...for the following reasons you've not mentioned:

      - Fabregas assists a fair amount of Costa goals and there's only a point difference between an assist and a goal for a striker.
      - Fabregas when only assisting once during a game usually still gets bonus points.
      - Costa only gets bonus points when scoring more than once or scoring and assisting.
      - Fabregas will likely play further forward more in the second half of the season.

      1. Ludo
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Fabregas has assisted four of Costa's 15 goals - throw in his assist, and he's only got points a quarter of the time that Costa has been involved in a goal. The bonus points debate is different, but fair enough.

    40. TyrannoSuarez Rex
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      "You get more points for goals than for assists" - Correct statement

      BUT FALSE

      Fabregas is almost guaranteed 1-3 BPS when getting an assist. Also consider +1 for any clean sheet that Chelsea get. Plus he will score another 2-3 goals in the remaining games.

      I reckon Fab will match Costa's goals in assists, which means they'll score roughly the same (if not Fab more due to CS and BPS) plus he's cheaper and Austin/Kane are good forward options.

    41. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm with Fab over Costa even though the above article is very convincing, because BPS for Fab brings him very close to Costa and with Kane, Austin both on form and Aguero taking that final striker slot.

      Midfield has 5 slots so Fab leaving me 4 more, wheras Costa takes up 1 of 3 places.

      I've also had Fab since GW1 so happy to keep until his form drops.

      If they have a GW26 blank then most likely Fab will get dropped at that point if he's had a few blanks himself.

    42. Ludo
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Okay, plenty are saying that Fabregas's BPS performance means he gets more points for an assist than Costa does for a goal, or it's at least a closer run thing than I make out. Fair point, let's take a look.

      It's very difficult to determine how many BPs they'd each get for a goal/assist, given that multiple attacking returns are what really seal the bonus. However, to try and find an answer in isolation, I've focused on Fabregas's bonuses when he's just got one assist in a match, and on Costa's when he's just got one goal.

      Fabregas has got one assist nine times, and picked up nine bonus points in those matches - so I guess you can say that he gets four points for an assist, not three.

      Likewise, Costa has got one goal nine times, though he's picked up three bonus points in those matches. Obviously Fabregas is the better player for the BPS, but the fact that Costa does sometimes get bonus points for goals means that Costa still gets more points per goal than Fabregas does per assist. Yellow cards and clean sheet points are a different matter, however...

      1. Phil_fox85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        That's the point that is always overlooked. Clean sheet points do add up over the season, especially if your Chelsea....

        Still, for me it just comes down to the fact I got Fabs at 9.0m. While there isn't a clear cut case for selling I'll hold on.

      2. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        So in which case it works out very even. However what about the price point?

    43. Bojan ye gud ting
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Excellent post but surely the most important stat when comparing Fab and Costa is that they have both averaged 5.7 PPG & Fab is 1.5m cheaper?

      I know that past performance is no guarantee of future points and it won't be easy for Fab to keep up the rate of assists but that can also be said for Costa's goals and the 63% v 44% re involvement in goals etc....

    44. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A very good post but does not convince me to get Costa I'm afraid.

      Fabs for me in a midfield of Haz, Sanchez, Silva and Boyd.

      In addition to the points above pro Fabs, the case for Costa is further weakened by the necessity of Aguero and the valid inclusion of ubers, Kane and Austin.

      2 mill cheaper and the same ppg really says it all.

    45. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Post of the month for me mate.

    46. C-Dawgg
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      This is a great post, really interesting points being discussed from it.

      What I just don't understand why people here don't seem to rate Fabregas, even people who pick him act like its some sort of chore to have one of the most consistent players in the game. Why is his assist rate is some sort of luck when he creates more chances than any other player?

      Secondly people talk like he is never going to score a goal, if you believe his assist rate is over performing then you have to concede his goal rate is under performing. When he does score you can almost guarantee its coming with 3 bps and a possible 1-2 assists.

      Costa is 2mil more and has 103 points vs Cescs 114. That is really the most important stat in this game. Whilst Costa will get the occasional brace with 3BPS to show me up, there will be far more weeks when you have 11.2mil for a blank because he doesn't score a goal and has no other way of returning points (so far).

      Come the end of the season I don't imagine there will be much in the points total, the difference will be I've had 2 mil extra spent elsewhere in my team all season.

  9. SGTMacaroni
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is a backline with:

    Wbrom (Sun)
    Southampton Chelsea Southampton (Wbrom, Sun)

    Putting too many eggs in multiple baskets? I feel like these players are best value for money, but doubling up on multiple defensive assets seems a risky plan. It would look something like this:

    Foster (Panti)
    CLyne Bertrand Terry Wisdom PVA

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      3 baskets...that's too much

  10. sttewwizza
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is Spurs going to buy some player in FORWARD position...? Any rumours...?

    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Only if they sell Ade

    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wouldn't be surprised. Relying on someone like Kane just seems uncharacteristic. For his sake I hope they keep faith though

    3. Jebiga
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Why, Kane is awesome

      1. sttewwizza
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Because thay involved in FA cup, semi final of League Cup, Uefa league, PL.... and i don't belive that they are plaing in all of that only with Kane and Soldado... Adebayor is mystery, I don't know if Spurs count on him...???

  11. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    any defenders & goalies rotation spreadsheet available?

    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I've not got one online but if you email me I can send you a screenshot of your rotation plans. Benefits of Team Oranje 😉

  12. Jabba12
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Think I've cracked my WC

    Thoughts?

    Hamer Foster
    Baird Hutton PVA Clyne Terry
    Sanchez Haz Fab ADM Albrighton
    Kane Aguero Austin

    Much appreciated guys

  13. KING KOUNDER
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    A - Courtois & Baird
    B - Foster & Janmaat

    Rest of the D is..

    X--Hamer
    X-Berty--Clyne---Wisdom--PVA

  14. Costa in Wengerland
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Last time My Captain choice Worked was Gameweek 16 🙁

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Gotta be bold man

      1. Tired and weary
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        After a number of unsuccessful 'bold' captain selections, I'm inclined to be a little more conservative for the rest of the season...!

  15. meltedman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Baines will probably outscore Chelsea defenders over next 2 games, perhaps substantially, yet no one has him in their wc team! Terry is bit of zombie pick, no inspiration. Granted I'll be buying him in a few weeks..

    1. Debauchy
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I agree - If I had money to burn , would be a good punt , but other issues

    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Baines broke my heart this season teasing me with a few great games then being SHITE for a long time

    3. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I agree and have him in my wild card team.

  16. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Can I ask why the community is voting for that team?

    It is not just bitterness - I am genuinely puzzled.

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      In form attackers, and most importantly NO di maria.

      Lovely defenders all with strong fixtures, and you know we love a good attacking defender. And lets be fair this is the one week where you can get away with picking Ings to make it possible.

      Adrian in goal. I'd prefer a double up but wont complain.

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Eh?

        MUN: qpr 233

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          And the form?

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Rising exceptionally fast.

            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Fast enough, I disagree and clearly 23 people agree with me.

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                Well, my take on you and your 23 is unprintable. 🙂

                1. Ginkapo FPL
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  So be it, but you did ask why we were voting.

                2. Ginkapo FPL
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  What confused me, in a week where WHM play Hull, why do you not have a triple up?

                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 3 months ago

                    Because I am actually USING my brains. 😉 😛

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I ripped off the quote you were using and it got me nowhere 🙁 😉

    3. Tind
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Actually you do sound bitter - both here and in the voting thread ....

  17. Debauchy
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anybody in the Stoke camp- ?
    Walters - is he in danger of being dropped ?
    Want him next 2 before WC

  18. sambyy
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    How nailed on is Baird? Getting him instead of Wisdom would allow me to do Hutton -> Jones, on WC.

  19. FPL Daniel
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What Evs quited? Pls tell me that is not true :(. He is the best fpl manager around here

    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      At the end of this season I thought?

    2. Pasqualinho
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      He's getting on a bit and lost a lot of pace and a whole load of brain cells. It is the correct thing to do.

  20. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Sterling ownership is 30%

    Hazard ownership is 33%

    😮

    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Must be loads of dead teams that own Sterling surely.

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Surely dead teams will also have hazard as much as sterling

        1. Bubz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Think Fabregas is the dead team Chelsea mid of choice

        2. Mahesh_Kumar
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          No. Hazard only had around 10% ownership in the beginning . Everyone wanted Costa

          1. The Enlightener
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Found it odd earlier in the season that so many people didn't have Hazard in their squads. Guaranteed points machine. About as no brainer as no brainer gets in this game.

      2. money face bandwagon
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        my team is not dead yet =P

  21. Manu5
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    On a scale of 1-10, 10 being certifiably insane, how mad is it that on my current WC I have Bert,clyne,fonte?

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      9.8

      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        yep, too much. One goal in some of those games is very possible and destroys your defensive points

    2. Costa in Wengerland
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      9.9

      1. Manu5
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thats what I was figuring, thanks

  22. Parm
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What's with all the Di María hate on here?

    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I just ignore it

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Baines for next 2, with a potential switch toTerry?

        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Not bad. Terry is rising though isn't he? Also depends when you hit the button

          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Im on a WC. I have 0.4m in reserve so JT can for all I care.

            JT 3 goals from 3 attempts in last six. Baines 4 attempts. I just think Baines/Everton from here on in will show the best improvement ito CS.

    2. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Terrible stats from that last game is the only reason I can think of.

    3. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Utd are shiteeeeeee and he was shiteeeeeee last game

    4. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Really? Nobody can deny he's quality. People speaking based on 1 game

    5. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Too much hate on here in general

      We need more loving

      1. Mahesh_Kumar
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Hear hear

    6. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      For me its not personal. I object to purchasing any man united attackers until they work out what formation they play and who is going to do the scoring.

      Currently they all pop up every so often with a goal or two with no possible way of predicting.

      1. Debauchy
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        So much this. Once we know who is doing what , we look again, simples.

    7. Not Irish
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Great player no doubt but he's every bit as POO as Rooney is under LvG.

      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Lets hope van Gaal has learnt his lesson then eh.

        1. Not Irish
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          It's a false hope. Rooney is LvG's Bastian. AdM is his Robben.

          1. Parm
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Delusion at its finest.

            1. Not Irish
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              On LvG's part, yes.

      2. Debauchy
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yep . when he settles into a regular position , he will flourish again , no doubt.

    8. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Just a reaction from the Southamton game. It's their defenders that should get the credit if anything IMO.

      1. Mahesh_Kumar
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I agree

    9. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      ABU, Parm, with added van Bile loathing. 😉

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Look at the posters on this post.

        Its basically ABU versus ManU supporters. This site has always been very black and white on the issue of United.

        1. Not Irish
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Do I get a sucker for my evenhandedness?

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Amusingly your often more anti United than the rest of us.

            1. Not Irish
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              I'm just honest.

          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            No. You get a slap.

            And splinters in your backside.

            1. Not Irish
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              For what?

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                Being you. 😉

      2. Parm
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Wait until the diamond is back in town, then we're talking.

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          "wait" - thats my entire point.

        2. Not Irish
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          RvP AdM
          Mata
          Rooney Fellaini
          Blind/Carrick with the other in defense

          Oh yes, that will fix it alright.

          1. Mahesh_Kumar
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Rooney is being wasted in midfield

            1. Not Irish
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Just as AdM is as a striker.

              Suppose I should've added a 🙄 at the end of that post to cement my sarcasm.

  23. foley_fd
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Looks like the main decision for the template team is:

    A - 4 x premium midfielders + 2 x budget forwards (e.g. Kane, Austin, Berahino)

    B - 3 x premium midfielder + 1 x mid range midfielder + 1 mid range forward (e.g. Giroud) + 1 budget forward

    1. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I have b with two premium forwards

  24. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is Yun dead?

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      KUN related posts please not YUN

      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cool kids got Aguero last week 😎

    2. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Redknapp ate it.

  25. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Rooney >> Aguero .. DONE!

    *feeling relaxed*

    1. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      😎

      1. Gooner97
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Let's cook now

        1. Siva Mohan
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          he is up against your team 🙂

    2. shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      RVP>Aguero done last night!

      With Debuchy>Wisdom for luck! 🙂

  26. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    New Premier League wage bill figures released. United top the lot:

    1. #MUFC - £214.8m
    2. #MCFC - £205m
    3. #CFC - £190.5m
    4. #AFC - £166.4m

    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ridiculous.

      1. Just A Hat
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        especially when you are walking around selling white t-shirts in the street for a $1 to get by

        1. Bubz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Thin line between heaven and here

    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Phew

    3. theloveburglar
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      where did u get this information may i ask?

        1. theloveburglar
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          thanks

    4. Colonel Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I shouldn't have worked so hard at school 😀

  27. DanWills
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Chadli or Eriksen?

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Chadders

    2. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Chad

    3. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Chadli

    4. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lord Chad

    5. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Chadleigh

    6. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Chad Lee

  28. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Germany legend Lothar Matthaus: "Podolski should look at himself & ask why he's not been a success at clubs like Bayern or Arsenal. He tweets more than he plays!" 😆

    1. Not Irish
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      lol

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ouch. That has to hurt

    3. meltedman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      LOL at putting Bayern and Arsenal in the same sentence.

      1. Mahesh_Kumar
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

      2. Mahesh_Kumar
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        😀 😀 😀

  29. Sol
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    bench Siggy (CHE) or Boyd (CRY) ?

    1. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I have Siggy on the bench atm. If Boyd hadn't scored a couple recently then would say play Sig no brainer

      1. Sol
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        thank you

  30. Gooner97
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Ok, I'm close to something. I'm not planning to play my WC now, maybe next GW. I have to spend the 2FT, especially with Aguero's price..

    Heaton (Mannone)
    Clyne, Ivanovic, Wisdom, Hutton, OShea
    Downing, Siggy, Sanchez, Hazard, Boyd
    Austin Costa Rooney

    2FT, £1.0 ITB
    A) Ivan & Rooney => Aguero & Cahill/Bertrand
    B) Rooney and Siggy/Downing => Aguero & Puncheon

    Leaning towards B atm....but undecided who to sell between Downing(HUL) or Siggy(CHE).

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A

    2. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A