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Aguero’s Fantasy v Real Form

I always have a problem when Fantasy managers refer to a player being “in form” or “out of form” because they usually mean Fantasy Football or more specifically Fantasy Premier League (FPL). I don’t believe Fantasy Football  form is a very useful concept as form should be exclusively applied to how well a player is doing on the field. Sometimes this translates into Fantasy points and sometimes it doesn’t. Fantasy Football points are therefore a result of actual playing form (the player, his team and the opposition) and circumstance or luck.

In a way this is something Fantasy managers look for, isn’t it?  Players who have been playing well without hitting the headlines. Players you can bring in before they get the big points hauls rather than afterwards.

A good current example is Manchester City’s Sergio Aguero. I have seen a number of comments from Fantasy managers saying that he is out of form recently but I’m really not sure that is true. True, he hasn’t scored many Fantasy Football points or scored many goals. But that doesn’t mean he is playing badly.

In my view, the problem with Aguero isn’t form, it is position. Since Bony returned from the Africa Cup of Nations, City have returned to the 4-2-2-2 which Pellegrini seems wedded to. That means Aguero playing deeper and many of “his” usual chances have been falling to Bony/Dzeko as a result. This also happened at the same stage of last season; City played 4-2-2-2 in their last eight games (after Aguero returned from an injury) and during those eight games Dzeko scored six goals and Aguero scored two.

It is also the case that Aguero has a historic tendency to score more goals in the first half of the season than the second half if you look over the last four seasons. This could easily be coincidental but players do seem to have repeating patterns with things like this.

If you look at a strike map of Aguero’s goals this season, most have been from the 6-12 yard range and central. With 4-2-2-2 he has still been getting shots away but many more of them have been from further out and/or wider. That’s the issue. Aguero is a good player in decent form I think but although he’s well capable of scoring in any given week the overall affect of 4-2-2-2 is limiting his FPL potential. That’s my take on it anyhow.

Although it might seem counter-intuitive, I’d probably be more inclined to captain him for the Manchester derby next week than against Palace this week. Against United there is a higher chance that Pellegrini will play 4-2-3-1 with Aguero at the point (as he often does in “big” games). And Aguero has a very good scoring record against United (six goals in the last seven Premier League games). Of all Premier League opponents he has only scored more goals against West Ham than he has against United.

In conclusion, though “Fantasy form” can serve as a rough guide, it is far more useful if you can understand why a player has or has not been racking up Fantasy points. Is he playing well or badly? Has he been particularly lucky or unlucky? Or is there some other contributing factor that needs to be taken account of? Spotting changed circumstances and predicting the effects they may have has to be one of the key skills in a Fantasy manager’s arsenal.

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  1. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    His fantasy form is certainly a worry....looks like he's reverting back to his A Madrid form - where he assisted Forlan admirably.

    1. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Good points, RuthNZ. A few additional thoughts:

      I think that this sport makes it very difficult from a fantasy perspective -- there are just too few goals scored per game for one to use the basis of true offensive production as an indicator of form. It's one just one indicator (but a very important one!).

      Many folks here use the stats about shots, creativity, shots in the box, etc. and then there is plain old just watching the guys perform and seeing how involved they are and their impact on the game per se. I think Sanchez is another one who many see as out of form, but the real issue is whether he is forcing the play and getting opportunities.

      Ultimately, if it's the coach's formation that is limiting (or creating) opportunities for attacking players, then that should be taken into consideration in one's choice to buy, sell, hold, play, bench, and then using the term "form" is really just semantics (and also not truly identifying the root cause).

      Many variables come into play about "form," and there is real form vs FPL form, which I agree are two different things. Obviously, for all of us, FPL form is the ultimate criterion, but as you say, is not necessarily equal to (but likely correlated with) real form.

      1. Ruth_NZ
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 24 days ago

        I just read this again. I think your phrase "truly identifying the root cause" is what I'm pointing to. Not that we always can but good judgement consists in part of how well we can read things like this. And good judgement is pretty crucial in a good FPL manager in my view.

  2. A-VB
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Nice article.

    I completely agree with you that Aguero atm is playing rather fine, contrary to what many of us here are saying. But unfortunately his fantasy yield has been very poor, and that's frustrating.

  3. Captain Peacock
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pellegrini did dump his formation against Barca. Just the big teams then, or will he learn his lesson and play Kun by himself upfront v Palace?

    1. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Think that was just for Barca, he's had a lot of success with that formation against weaker teams.

      I think the formation's getting a lot of blame when the issue is that the key players aren't playing very well.

      1. Captain Peacock
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If the formation fails to get the best out of the players then it needs to be modified. Particularly for the most talented ones like Kun. Silva and Fernando seem to have adapted, but nobody else.

        1. CABAYE4
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I don't think you can blame the formation for Kun missing chances he was taking earlier in the season, for Yaya's interest waning or for Kompany and Zabaleta forgetting how to defend.

        2. Ruth_NZ
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yes, that is rational.

          But Pellegrini just spent £28m on Bony and needs to justify it. Also he likes 4-2-2-2 and only seems to vary from it for "tough" games. So rationality may be in short supply.

          That's why I made the comments about the Manchester derby. He may well play 4-2-3-1 in that game.

      2. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I think the bottom line is if they win. We are the only one's who care about fantasy points. The coach needs to play the formation that he thinks gives his team the greatest opportunity to get 3 points. Arguably, that has been questionable of late for Man City.

        1. CABAYE4
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          The way they've played I think they would have lost those games regardless of formation.

  4. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bony is poison - and Pella coughed up the money for 'his' signing so I think he gets plenty of minutes. Kun out Bony in - though not necessary for each other - could be an option for me a few weeks down the line...one to watch...

    1. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, I agree with all of that.

      The problem with Bony is that Dzeko will also get some games I think. So bringing Bony into your team is also problematic.

      1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yes correct - its not clear cut. Doubt we will see much rotation now so it remains to be seen it Pelle consistently starts Bony or not. By GW33-36 City attacking players are going to be very popular I feel.

        1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          ...forgot to add Bony started to look the part more v WBA...albeit v 10...

    2. Captain Peacock
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That 28 million is a criminal waste of money in the FFP age.

      1. Ruth_NZ
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yes, I thought so at the time. City are struggling with FFP as it is.

  5. CABAYE4
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Aguero's scored plenty of goals in a 4222 system before, I don't think the system is totally to blame.

    He's missed plenty of decent chances in the last few weeks that when he was on top form he would be taking.

    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Could be a case of relearning how to interact in an altered system?

      1. CABAYE4
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'm not convinced the formation has a lot of relevance to Aguero.

        I've lost count of the amount of times he's hit the woodwork or missed the target from close range recently. Whether you call that poor form, bad luck or something else, I don't think you can blame it on the formation.

  6. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A major issue we seem to trip over, is understanding the difference between actual form and fantasy form. And moreover which one people are referring to when they mention form.

  7. rickytoso
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I agree with the main premise of the article. For me, Aguero is in good form and has simply been unlucky the past few weeks. He's hit the woodwork, had valid penalty claims turned down and had plenty of shots on target. I will likely give him the armband this week.

  8. Margarido
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Aguero is the top striker of BPL, playing for the most attacking side of the BPL.
    Even Suarez had rough patches last year…
    Sergio will come good.

    But the question you raise it's valid.
    I tend to follow FPL form, thats the game we are playing..

    1. Ruth_NZ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      ...and my point is that "FPL form" doesn't exist.

  9. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I agree with his form over the past couple of weeks but tbh he was playing rubbish straight after his injury. He was running like he needed a good dump...when he actually did run of course.

    1. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      yep i definitely brought him in too early after the injury. that can go either way with quality players. but usually I try to watch first and if the signs are good snap em up. still relearning ff lessons 7 years on lol.
      anyway good to see him back in form now especially with loads selling. one goal could open the floodgates again. confidence a huge factor with strikers

    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Good article Ruth

  10. Breedy
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Excellent write-up.

  11. Get up ya bum
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    spot on. aggers was brilliant against wba. I see no reason to sell