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Tracking The Fantasy Football Veterans – Gameweek 1

Last year’s pool of 34 veteran Hall of Famers and FFScout contributors and moderators has been extended this year to include more experienced and high ranking managers from this community. Now 50 strong the group involved can be found here.

As with last season I’m hoping that the wider contingent of Fantasy Premier League managers can learn a lot from this group. The veterans may have started badly in 2015/16 but their savvy use of chips ensured they finished on a high. This term they could finish even higher, as many have already had a great start. 

CHIPS

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One veteran used his all out attack chip, which brought him an extra seven points this Gameweek. This is not one of the most lucrative chips so represents a fairly good return.

VETERANS’ TEMPLATE

These are players with the highest ownership amongst the veterans:

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Unsurprisingly  Sergio Aguero is the most popular player. Only one veteran, FFScout’s resident Leicester expert Andy, decided to go without him at the start of the season. Also, 98% (49 out of 50) veterans gave the armband to the Manchester City striker. In the absence of the Argentine, Andy choose Chelsea’s Diego Costa instead.

NOTABLE PLAYERS OWNERSHIP

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Ben Foster from West Brom is the goalkeeper with the highest ownership amongst the veterans, on 88%. But in terms of overall ownership he is something of a differential, with just 5.4% owning him. With Foster being only one of two keepers to register a clean sheet in Gameweek 1 and with a strong set of fixtures to come this looks to be an example where the veterans are already ahead of the curve.  

Two players from the Arsenal defence Hector Bellerin and Petr Cech are among the top owned players overall but none of the veterans have them. With four goals shipped against Liverpool, once again the veterans look to have out foxed the masses already.

When we look at midfielders, Nathan Redmond from Southampton is the second most popular player amongst the veterans, appearing in 35 of their teams.  With an overall ownership of just 6% and a goal on his competitive debut for Southampton last weekend, this is another example where the veterans’ ability to spot a good differential came to the fore.

However, the same can’t be said of their selection of Burnley’s Andy Gray. He sits in eight out of ten of the veterans’ teams but failed to score against Swansea at home.  With tough fixtures to come it may well be that the nine out of ten managers overall that shunned Gray have the upper hand over the veterans.

TOP STARTING PLAYERS

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Étienne Capoue was picked by six out of ten veterans. With a goal against Southampton this was another shrewd buy but with none fielding him in their starting line up they sadly missed out on the spoils from this savvy selection.  Even those who had an autosub come in failed to enjoy the Frenchman’s points.

OVERALL RANKINGS

– Maximum points: 80

After Gameweek 1, the average overall position of all 50 veteran teams is 384,791. In addition, the veterans’ average Gameweek 1 score was 60.06 points, way up on the overall average (47 points).

BEAT THE VETERANS

Everyone in the “Beat the Veterans” mini league with 41 points or less are eliminated. More than 1,500 managers survive Gameweek 1. Siddhant Bhardwaj had the highest score in the first gameweek – 83 points.

If you think you are better than the Veterans, you can find out by joining the FPL mini league “Beat the Veterans” (3987-32519 ). Rules can be found here. Of course, everyone who joins the league now must have minimum of  41 points in Gameweek 1. The league will be closed on Friday, one hour before the Gameweek 2 deadline. You still have time to join.

Kavali `In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.`

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  1. J0E
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    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Solid start for the veterans, lots of savvy picks. As a Gray owner I think the masses may be right on him. He has the dodgy Liverpool defence up next to convince me otherwise.

  2. Az
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    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Solid start Vets. I'm hoping for a better week this week! A few of my picks worrying me... Forster (no one else seems to have), Kane, Gray, Firmino... a big week for these players to show some promise! Ayew injury was rough too.

    Amazed at how low Ibra's ownership is... potential banana skin there!

    1. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      even lower in the community veteran subset.

  3. Lanley Staurel
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    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Excellent article. Really useful stuff. Will be a must read every week for me.

  4. Annie
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    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Great read, can you pick out some of the differentials amongst the veterans next time 🙂

    1. Kavali
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I'll try, can be an interesting stuff. Cheers

  5. Woy of the Wovers
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    So far the elimination league looking to be about as tough as LMS. That may well change.

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      LMS was 43 😛

  6. blue book
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    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Superb piece, some little bits of gold dust in there.

    It will be interesting to see the ownership levels of the veterans of Ibra versus Vardy in GW2. Surely most vets will stick rather than twist on Vardy against the Arsenal defense - just look at their attitude to Bellerin! 😉

    But Gray has to be a different matter though. Still 82% ownership in GW 2?

    1. President Giggs
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Gray had decent enough underlying stats, I don't see why they'd shift him just because he didn't get any returns in one gameweek.

      1. blue book
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        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        The thought I had was that Gray was the outstanding 6.5 choice for GW 1, but that his fixtures get progressively harder over the next two Gameweeks. Which theoretically brings other 6.5s into the frame. I'm currently tempted by Gray to Rondon.

        But generally the advice on here seems to be to save the FT from GW 1 except in the case of injury/suspension. So based on that you are probably right and the vets will stick on Gray too.

  7. FantasyFreak
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Interesting Capoue were picked by 6 veterans. Surely they are not planning to play him at all?

    1. Kavali
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He was picked by six out of ten veterans (64% of veterans have him). But none of the veterans decided to start with him in starting XI

  8. DanwiseTheBrave
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Oh boy! This is my most exciting league by far!

    Also that notable players table is a thing of beauty! Keep up the good work.

  9. AA33
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Happy that I surpassed the average score of the veterans this GW.

  10. mattk lfc
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    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Great article, some very interesting points

  11. Old Boots
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Nice to be able to see how my team shapes up to the veterans, as well as the masses.

    Excellent article, cheers 🙂

  12. Mr. Blonde
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    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Love this article great to see it's back this year. Their picks have left me fairly confident also which is a plus!

  13. kingmig84
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    what do the veterans think to a Vardy -> Ibra switch this week? I'm holding out with Vardy but very fearful of Ibra on Friday night!

    1. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      It's a move I'll be making. with no penalties Vardy is not a 10m player I want long term for a club that could be a little lost this year. ManU are on the up and there's a Big Swede helping them.

  14. Surgical Attack
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Thanks Kavali. Great job.

  15. AA33
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Nice information, Kavali ! I suggest you post this article on Tuesday or Wednesday because Thursday is a bit too late for the previous GW.

  16. PDM TOP 1,000 any Season Le…
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Great work indeed
    Surprised that the Vets had such a low IBRA ownership.
    41 an easy GW1 score to beat

    1. Kavali
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks. There are 50 managers in the sample, it is impossible that everyone of them scores big. One manager had 42 points so safety score is 41. But from GW 31-38 every non-veterans teams whose Gameweek points are lower than veterans’ average for that particular Gameweek will be eliminated. This GW average was 60.06 points so, if it wasn't GW 1 (if it was for example GW 31), safety score would be 60 and that's not such an easy score to beat.

      1. RedLightning
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        "Everyone in the Beat the Veterans mini-league with 41 points or less are eliminated."

        Doesn't that mean that the safety score is 42 (not 41) and that everyone who joins the league now must have minimum of 42 points (not 41) in game-week 1?

        1. Kavali
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Yup, you are right, safety score is 42, I made a mistake in the text but I eliminated those teams with 41 points or less

  17. Jabler79
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Loved the article. I'm new to FPL, so could you tell me why none of the veterans picked Payet in the midfield? Did they know he wasn't going to start - and if so, how?

    Thanks

    1. McQueen
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Yup, he wasn't going to start so it was wait and see game.

      1. Jabler79
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        How did you know he wasn't starting?

    2. Az
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      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I believe Billic said that he wasn't ready to start after his Euro exertions. Even now there is a question mark over whether he is ready 🙂

      1. Jabler79
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

      2. McQueen
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        This.