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Dugout Discussion – Tottenham vs Sunderland

18 September 2016 4862 comments
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A busy Sunday of football comes to its conclusion at White Hart Lane as Spurs and Sunderland go head-to-head in the 4.30pm kick-off.

The hosts’ 4-0 win over Stoke last weekend boosted out faith in the likes of Harry Kane and Dele Alli, yet their midweek Champions League loss to Monaco at Wembley suggests Mauricio Pochettino’s side have yet to hit top gear.

Christian Eriksen and Erik Lamela owners are left cursing their luck after the duo were named amongst the subs, with Mousa Dembele returning to the XI following a six-match suspension.

Certainly, the home side will be buoyed by their visitors’ second-half capitulation at home to Everton on Monday night.

The Black Cats have yet to win under David Moyes and, considering their current form, may well be lucky to avoid a repeat of the 4-1 reverse in the corresponding fixture last season.

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  1. rohan
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Jaku Pickford is tempting

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    1. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Think I'm going for it

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    2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      If you had to only have one....

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    3. MTPockets
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Can facilitate a great attack (and rubbish defence). e.g.

      Pickford (Jaku)
      Evans - Holebas - Kelly (Amat, Kingsley)
      Sanchez - Firminho - Sterling - Antonio (Capoue)
      Aguero - Lukaku - Costa

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  2. aleksios
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Zlatan owners from the start and on wc now..keep or not?

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    1. Cecil The Lion
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Still not sure. But thinking of keeping.

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    2. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Keep

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      1. Danstoke82
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Keeping for now. Leicester at H is last chance saloon though, might downgrade to Costa after

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        1. _Gunner
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          If you are keeping Zlatan then keep him till after STOKE H

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          1. Danstoke82
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Agreed

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    3. Fingerspitzengefühl
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      What has changed since you chose him to begin with? He's getting goals & assists at a steady pace

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      1. Zebblox
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Just hasn't looked good enough to justify his price for me. His assist today was very dubious and other than that I didn't really notice him. Seems to be better value elsewhere, for the time being at least

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        1. Ibracadabra
          • 17 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          On WC and 50/50 for me. He is the standout (C) for week 7 at home against Stoke. He will get the service, Valencia/Rooney/Mik/Martial/Pogba/Mata/etc. can pick a pass. The issue is whether he's worth the 2.5m+ outlay over Lukaku for me.

          It basically comes down to Ibra/Snodgrass vs Lukaku/Sterling on my WC.

          Rest of mid - Sanchez.Firmino.Antonio.Capoue.

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    4. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Wondering that myself. Seeing a lot of people selling, but worried about his ownership. He was good against Watford, although he didn't get any service from the other players. Got an assist and was close to a goal, that's enough for me for still holding on.

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    5. Cooper123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Selling because of the midfield he enables.

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    6. MTPockets
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Probably not. If do will have a very cheap 5th mid & play capoue.

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    7. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I've cut.

      With all the good midfield options and with aguero essential - kept lukaku and shipped him.

      I think Man U are the most overrated team in the league...

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      1. Ibracadabra
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Even poor / overrated teams can provide decent fantasy options. See Mata (or even Di Maria) for long spells when United were poor and finished outside the Top 4... You are talking about arguably Europe's best out and out striker (Messi/Ronaldo forwards, but you get my point) of the past decade...

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    8. Bleach †
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      think I'm ditching

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      1. Flynny
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Keeping for the next 2 home games.....then I'll see.

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  3. 824545201
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    After a terrible start to the season and an OR of 920k, i'm very excited about my WC team. Next weekend can't come soon enough.

    Pickford - Jaku
    Williams - Vertonghen - McAuley - Holebas - Amat
    Sanchez - Sterling - Firmino - Antonio - Capoue
    Aguero - Lukaku - Deeney

    The plan is to play 3-5-2 with Deeney on the bench until Capoue starts blanking, then change to a 3-4-3.

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    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Very very similar.

      Like it (obviously).

      Playing deeney over Capoue

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      1. 824545201
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Deeney is always a point threat with the pens, but surely Capoue is unbenchable at the moment?

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    2. MTPockets
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Similar to mine too. Capoue creates a benching problem, but there are worse problems.

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      1. MTPockets
        9 years, 10 months ago

        ...problems to have, not problems with the team.

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  4. Nicks93
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Coleman worth 0.4 over Williams?

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    1. Cecil The Lion
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Yes

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      1. Nicks93
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks

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  5. TorresMagic™
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Applebonkers leading Mods League

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/leagues/standings/12306/classic

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    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Jonty 24 point lead wiped out in a week by Mark 🙂

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    2. Hibbo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Some right deadwood in there.

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  6. GK
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    (A) Firmino, Bony
    (B) Snoddy, Lukaku (-4)

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    1. Bleach †
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      B) but I'd also want to have Firm in my team

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  7. Pirlø's Pen
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Martin Kelly nailed whilst Souare is out?

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    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Looks like it.

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    2. Feed tha Sheep
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Wondering that myself tempting at 4.4

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  8. Xuey
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    First season in FPL and I'm ranked 6537. Properly stoked! Some advice with my Aguero plan?
    Sterling -> Capoue
    Costa -> Aguero
    Or i could go a little more fancy and go
    Hazard -> Sanchez
    Costa -> Aguero
    Ozil -> Capoue
    Perhaps even Sterling -> Mane.
    I feel like the first option is the easiest but Hazard and Ozil have let me down the last few weeks :/

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    1. Xuey
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Sterling -> Firm my bad.

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    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      wouldnt be getting rid of sterling

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  9. F4L
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Firmino back for next weekend right?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Hopefully

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    2. andymck
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Yes

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  10. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Evening gents

    Any feedback on this potential WC? Thinking of going without Zlat as an anti-differential to try to kick start my season (will probably have the opposite effect 😆 )

    Defence/GK needs fine tuning I and should have enough cash to upgrade one of my keepers if price changes work out well.

    Pickford Jak

    Baines Walker Holebas Robertson Amat

    Sanchez Sterling Firmino Antonio Capoue

    Kun Lukaku Deeney

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    1. Bleach †
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Solid

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  11. Pinky and Brain
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Jansen wagon anyone?

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    1. Bleach †
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Empty

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  12. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Is KDB essential and is he rising in price tonight?

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    1. Kante Be Bothered
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      probably

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    2. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I'm not sure anyone is essential but he is the best player in the league imo

      He is a certainty in my WC team

      Will rise like a tin of John West this week

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    3. Bleach †
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Not essential and not gonna rise

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      1. Bleach †
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        tonight*

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  13. Kante Be Bothered
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Spell "dab" backwards you get Paul Pogba

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      First time I've seen that one.

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    2. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ehm...

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  14. Rex Lapis
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    A. Firmino Sterling Snodgrass
    B. Lallana Sanchez Fletcher (Capoue 4th mid)

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  15. Can’t beat em so&hell…
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Pick one for a WC...

    A) Pickford
    B) Jaku

    ???

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  16. VS10_
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Liverpool and Everton both play Tuesday so good chance there are press conferences tomorrow to give us some injury news.

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    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Think I'll hold off on my transfers until tomorrow then. Hopefully Haz doesn't fall.

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    2. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Both will prob be rested anyway though - not sure it will tell us much,

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      1. VS10_
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Well, the managers usually say who is available and who is not. Both might make the bench if fit.

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        1. how now brown cow
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          For League Cup? I doubt it.

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  17. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Two of the most basic lessons I've learned from being on this site:

    1. Keep an eye on players' stats as they will give you an indication of who will start/stop getting points.
    2. Team structure is important.

    With that in mind, those who are picking Capoue as a fourth choice mid on their wildcards should be warned as (I think) he falls down on both those terms.

    I haven't seen Capoue's stats from today's game but the stats from the games before now all pointed to his goalscoring rate falling off. He had an unusually high conversion rate that seemed likely to drop back to a more reasonable level and a low amount of shots. Add in the fact that he has no set pieces (unlike Yaya from a few years ago) and everything pointed towards him overperforming to an unsustainable degree.

    In terms of team structure, his low price actually becomes a problem if/when his form drops off as replacing him will inevitably involve downgrading someone else with a second FT.

    I know people want him to be a genuine 4th mid option as he allows for so many heavy hitters elsewhere but, before you pin your wildcard on him performing regularly in the medium/long term, you should probably ask yourselves *how* he's going to do that.

    He's in form so feel free to play him. Just don't put yourself in a position where you have to do so week in and week out. He's a very good fifth mid, no more and no less. Imo, of course

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    1. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Wow, too much to read but you're probably right.
      With that said, he's still scoring and with those upcoming fixtures I simply cannot keep him on the bench. It hurts too much!!

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      1. Hibbo
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Too much to read?

        Why because you couldn't be bothered your lazy arse?

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        1. FPL Puppy
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Yep, today I am very lazy. 🙂
          But I still read it! And I also replied.

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    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      snoddy and capoue best way to go with 4th and 5th mids imo

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    3. 824545201
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Best option is a cheap third striker and playing Capoue in a 3-5-2 until he starts blanking. Allows you more cash for a more traditional fourth mid.

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    4. Nicks93
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I disagree. Stats are good indicator but they do not really tell the story with Capoue since he just seems to time his runs right to get into scoring positions.

      Regarding the point of team structure, Capoue as 4th mid enables 1 more heavy hitter than without. If Capue underperforms a heavy hitter downgrade and Capoue upgrade is easy enough. Id rather have 4 big hitters with capoue doing nothing than 3 heavy hitter with a bolasie or snodgrass

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    5. Ibracadabra
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Think this is an excellent overview, but with his next 5 being Burnley, Bournemouth, Boro, Swansea, Hull, it's almost as if you can deal with him moving from your 4th to 5th slot in 5 weeks time, and plan for a switch then, while giving him a shot for the next 5 weeks.

      Personally, from a 4th mid, I would be happy with 3ppg-4ppg per game, that should be one of my worst scoring starting positions...

      So in the next 5 games, if he gets just 1 clean sheet and 1 goal, with only 1 bonus point, that is 3-2-2-8-2. 17 points over 5. Not amazing but not miserable. The question becomes what are the alternatives... It's a tough predicament surely, but I have some sour grapes here as have owned him all 5 weeks and all 44 points have been on my bench due to your exact line of reasoning.

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    6. Cracked Egg
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      This is the difference between reading stats and watching games. It's still a game of confidence at the end of the day...

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  18. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Contemplating activating my wildcard, mainly to get Agüero back in.

    I can't help that feeling like it won't be used that well due to things changing so frequently from week to week.

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    1. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Any other transfers you need to do? Or just to bring Aguero back in?
      This week could be very good to boost up your team value. 🙂

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  19. Cecil The Lion
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    a) Koscielny, Payet, Deeney
    or
    b) Holebas, Snodgrass, Ibrahimovic

    Cheers 😀

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    1. Rolls-Royce
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      a

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    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      A

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  20. Rolls-Royce
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Who would you rather keep?

    A. Zlatan
    B. Sanchez

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    1. mcgooie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      B

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    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      B.

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    3. Cecil The Lion
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      a

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    4. Xuey
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      B.

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  21. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    How does this wildcard looking....exact cash.

    Had ibra since the start and giving him next 2 games....slightly worried on Valencia game time so going Shaw...

    Heaton jaku
    Shaw williams Evans holebas amat
    Sanchez firmino Antonio snoddy capoue
    Kun ibra deeney

    Comments appreciated....thanks

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    1. Rolls-Royce
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      no lukaka?

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      1. Flynny
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Can't have em all.....

        Would love him...but can't squeeze in

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    2. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Considering pretty much the same but Kane over Ibra

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    3. Ibracadabra
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Why worried re: Valencia game time? Shaw injury prone and Rojo available to play LB. Team looks good, pretty template for WC teams around here I think..

      The lack of Lukaku in a purple patch of course is tough but the benefit of Ibra/Kun should more than make up for not having Lukaku.

      Wish EVE had been awarded a penalty since the Baines miss/make. If they had and Lukaku is on them, he is a clear frontrunner in the Costa-Lukaku-Ibra race for me, with that extra cushion of 3-5 goals this year coming his way. BUT if Baines is still on them, Ibra still seems a bit more consistent to me in the long term...

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  22. KOLASINA(C)
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Hazard->Sanchez
    A) do it now for -4
    B) do it for free next week

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  23. jonnytaylor86
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    what couple will score more points over the course of the season?

    A) Mustafi and Redmond

    B) Jagielka and Lallana

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  24. seanmcging
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Crazy to do this for -8?

    Haz, Trekkers & Caz > Kun, Sterling & Tadic/William

    Original plan was a simple Costa to Kun, but think he's too good to drop now!!

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  25. Bhau cha dhakka
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Antonio or Firmino ?

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  26. Danstoke82
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I've had a shocker of a GW and stupidly used my WC. Is -12 too much to carry out much needed surgery to my team?

    Already brought in Aguero and Firmino -4....

    Thinking of these as well, worth it?

    Valencia > Lovren which allows me to do Hazard > Sanchez for a total -12.

    I hate hits but my team is struggling?

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    1. The Legend Squad
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Definitely not - just chill. Things change

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    2. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I'm normally anti hits but for once Barkley & Defoe -> Lukaku & Capoue worked ok for me in the short term at least.

      I don't think it's worth it for the other 2 this week. Chelsea have a good record v Arsenal after all.

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      1. Danstoke82
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers guys. Shall I just stop at -4 then and stop the rage transfers?

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        1. how now brown cow
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          I would.

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  27. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Almost certainly going to wildcard this week!...

    Thinking of doing

    Stones+Hazard+Lamela+Nacho

    For

    Smith+Antonio+Sterling+Lakaku

    Thoughts??

    Just don't want to miss those 3 price rises that look like happening tonight 🙁

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    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Anyone help please?

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      1. The Enlightener
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        If you are wildcarding, you might as well get them in if you are concerned about price right this moment. Then, you will have plenty of time to reconsider and make some moves, hopefully gaining the value earned in the process.

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  28. Mull
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Up to 68k. I'd have preferred a much smoother path than falling outside the top 1m in GW2 but I can't complain.

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  29. Marcin the Pole
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Hazard & Ibra -> Payet & Aguero worth a hit?

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  30. Jamie_GAWA
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Who do you think will top the captaincy poll on FFS this week?

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    1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Aguero

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    2. Danstoke82
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Aguero.

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    3. LotusNZ
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Aguerooooooo

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    4. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Nobody, since the week will end in a couple of hours. 😉

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    5. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Aguero zzzzzzzzzzz

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    6. Respect My Authoritah
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Capoue

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    7. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ibra should be, aguero will be

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