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Scout Notes – Aguero Shines For Strong City

Sergio Aguero stars for a nearly full-strength Manchester City, while a much-changed Chelsea are held goalless by Norwich.

Three other Premier League teams will have to try again in replays as the FA Cup produces mixed results – and one sacking – on a busy Saturday of action.

For a manager who had gone very public with his claims that the Premier League’s packed Christmas schedule was ‘killing’ his players, Pep Guardiola showed them little FA Cup mercy.

The side he selected against Burnley was packed with regular starters, with only Ederson, Kevin De Bruyne and the fit-again Kyle Walker handed a rest.

Even then, the latter two were brought on in the second-half as City recovered from a 1-0 deficit, courtesy of an Ashley Barnes strike, with four unanswered goals after the break.

Leroy Sane and Bernardo Silva were on the scoresheet, but the recovery owed much to Sergio Aguero.

The Argentine scored twice on what was his seventh straight start in all competitions – his longest unbroken run in the team all season.

An injury to Gabriel Jesus is likely to keep that run going for at least another 3-5 weeks, which will be music to the ears of his 22.2% Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership.

Post-match, even Guardiola himself was talking up his forward’s need to play.

“I have to say it is an honour to have Sergio under my command. He is the kind of player who always wants to play, so I can understand that sometimes he is sad when he doesn’t play, but I want him to be happy.”

In his pre-match press conference, Guardiola had also backed Aguero to take on the workload demands of being his only fit striker.

“We need Gabriel, we need Sergio, we need both. We’ll have maybe two months without Gabriel. Two months is a lot of games, so we just have one.

He [Aguero] was banned two or three times [under me], because he’s so aggressive without the ball and after that he was always good, always fit. So hopefully we can handle it until the end, because of course we need the striker’s goals.

We have other options, not like a striker, but guys with mentality to be around the box who can solve that problem.”

FPL managers will be far happier if Aguero is rested for the first leg of City’s EFL Cup semi-final against Bristol City in midweek ahead of a league schedule (liv NEW WBA bur LEI) offering plenty of potential for their man to add to his 111 points for the season.

But trying to anticipate Guardiola’s rotation decisions remains close to impossible. He kept bit-part players Yaya Toure, Eliaquim Mangala and Brahim Diaz on the bench throughout yesterday’s tie while starting Nicolas Otamendi and John Stones and introducing goalscorer Silva – a starter just four times since Gameweek 10 – after 79 minutes.

Meanwhile, David Silva, back from his latest trip to Spain following the premature birth of his son, and even Raheem Sterling, who has started 11 of the last 12 matches in the league, played the full 90 minutes against the Clarets.

The 37.0%-owned Sterling, just like the rest of City’s stars, will likely get a further break in January, with the Champions League to be factored in again from the middle of next month.

That hasn’t stopped FPL managers making Sterling and Aguero the fourth and fifth most purchased players respectively ahead of Gameweek 23.

Tuesday’s EFL Cup teamsheet looks crucial with the two-legged semi-final surely the most likely hot-spot for rotation of Guardiola’s key attacking assets over this period.

Change costs Chelsea

Chelsea boss Antonio Conte was considerably more willing to use the FA Cup to shuffle his resources.

He made nine changes for the tie at Norwich City, with only Gary Cahill and Tiemoue Bakayoko retaining their places from the midweek draw at Arsenal.

Unfortunately, another stalemate was the result, which means a replay at Stamford Bridge on Tuesday, January 16, between Gameweeks 23 (Leicester City (h)) and 24 (Brighton (a).

Chelsea also have an EFL Cup semi-final first leg tie with Arsenal this Wednesday, so the fixtures are piling up for the Blues.

At least key Fantasy assets such as Cesar Azpilicueta and Marcos Alonso didn’t even travel to Norwich. Neither did Eden Hazard, who is nursing a minor injury, though the 17.5%-owned Alvaro Morata was in the squad and came on after 74 minutes, to no avail.

Meanwhile, David Luiz return to fitness may cause Andreas Christensen owners some concern, though the Brazilian’s unconvincing performance at Carrow Road, amid continued speculation on his future, should offer reassurance. The replay would also make it very likely that Christensen will start both league matches, with Luiz set to be given a second outing against Norwich.

Extra fixtures for trio

Three other Premier League sides also face replays.

Leicester City drew 0-0 at Fleetwood Town, with injury denying Jamie Vardy a return to his footballing roots, although defender Ben Chilwell was fit to start after a two-match absence.

The sides will now play again on the Tuesday between the Foxes’ January 13 trip to Chelsea and a home match with Watford.

Swansea City were also held goalless, by Wolves, in a tie in which Renato Sanches picked up a hamstring injury and Leroy Fer was sent off.

The midfielder will now miss three matches – the Tuesday replay sandwiched between Newcastle away and a visit from Liverpool.

Bournemouth had to come back from two goals down to earn their second chance against Wigan.

Lys Mousset and Steve Cook, in the 93rd minute, got the goals, with the Wednesday, January 17 replay coming between a visit from Arsenal and a trip to West Ham for the Cherries.

Elsewhere…

Huddersfield’s 2-1 win at Bolton came at a price, as the 6.1%-owned striker Collin Quaner limped off with a hamstring problem.

Head coach David Wagner is optimistic that the setback for his compatriot was not a major concern…

“Quaner felt his hamstring but I think we have caught it soon enough for it not to be a problem”

The winger’s replacement, Rajiv van la Parra, opened the scoring before Danny Williams added a second within a minute.

The Terriers were much-changed for the tie, although Laurent Depoitre (7.3%) also started and defender Terence Kongolo, on loan from Monaco, was impressive on his debut.

Watford saw off Bristol City 3-0, with Troy Deeney scoring on his return from a four-match ban.

Etienne Capoue and Andre Carillo were also on the scoresheet – the latter now has either a goal or an assist from his last three starts in all competitions.

Midfielder Richarlison, at 15.7% the most popular Watford player in FPL, was rested, although he did come on after 69 minutes.

Southampton manager Mauricio Pellegrino made just two changes to the side that lost to Crystal Palace as the Saints beat Fulham 1-0.

James Ward-Prowse’s first-half goal was enough to see Southampton progress.

Alan Pardew finally got his first victory as West Brom manager with a 2-0 win at Exeter.

Salomon Rondon and Jay Rodriguez scored the goals, but Kieran Gibbs picked up a knock that makes him an early doubt for next weekend’s home match against Brighton.

Newcastle breezed past Luton 3-1, with two goals for Ayoze Perez and one from Jonjo Shelvey.

However, defender Jamaal Lascelles (5.8%) lasted just 31 minutes of the tie before going off with a groin injury, though reports state that he is confident to be in contention for Saturday’s visit from Swansea City.

Mark Hughes’ final match in charge at Stoke City was a shock 2-1 defeat by Coventry City.

He was sacked after the upset, with a Charlie Adam penalty not enough to save either the tie or his job.

2,130 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Diamondgeezer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Looks like Coutinho deal has been done. Do I have to use a transfer to swap him out. Or do I get given an extra one as he is leaving the league?

    1. ThisTimeNxtYrRodney
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      You cannot be serious !!!!!!!!!

      1. Diamondgeezer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Sorry. This is the first time I have had a player leave the league. Don't see why it is such a crazy idea. I didn't sell him to Barca.

    2. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Of course you don't get an extra transfer, you have to sell him.

      1. FotnikPL
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Does he? He could keep him and make transfer elsewhere I suppose.

    3. Udo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      well u can keep him as a non-player spectator u, don't have to have an active player.

  2. Big P
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Smalling (5.3) or Valencia (6.7) better value?

    1. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Smalling but Jones out of the united defenders.

      1. Big P
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Just been offered Jones for Ederson in my draft league.

        Prefer Smalling due to Jones injury record

      2. Bored Bear
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Who is favoured between Lindelov and Smalling? could do with the cash.

        1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Smalling

    2. Rash
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Valencia injured.. Jones or ddg only imo

    3. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Why are you talking about value if it's for your draft team...

  3. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Any love for Lukaku against Stoke?

    Ownwership in the Top 10k must be very low so he could be a very good differential

    1. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Should do good

    2. Oven Glover
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I’m definitely getting him.

    3. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Other forwards have good fixtures so not really. All Kane, Morata and Aguero are playing at home against bad defenses.

      1. Big Mac 24
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Agree with you apart from the fact that a Aguero is playing AWAY at the league’s best Home defence.

        One week punt is maybe worth it for a flat track bully.

  4. Deece
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    G2G? Nothing in the bank.

    Courtois
    Jones Otamendi Vertonghen
    Salah KDB Sterling Son RLC
    Kane Firmino

    Elliot Kenny McBurnie Mbemba

    1. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

  5. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Who's more likely to keep a CS in the City Liverpool game, do you reckon?

    1. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      (VVD + Otamendu owner here...)

    2. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Liverpool

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Not biased?

        1. ooooo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          No just saying it because of our defence's home record but then I think neither will keep a clean sheet.

        2. tafrère
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          LOL, "not biased at all"

    3. Rash
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Neither

    4. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Got to say a slim chance on both counts.

    5. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Manchester City : better team, better defense, Liverpool without Coutinho etc.

  6. ooooo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Chrisensen to Alonso (-4)?
    Alonso has a much better goal threat and David Luiz is back.

    1. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

    2. FotnikPL
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      David Luiz shouldn't be a threat for Christensen.

      1. ooooo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Play same position though

        1. FotnikPL
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          just like Cabellero - same position as Courtois 😉

          1. ooooo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            But David Luiz was first choice before

            1. FotnikPL
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              exactly,"was"

    3. Bored Bear
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Didn't Luiz just play in the cup and to show he's available to buy?

    4. tafrère
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Christensen won't be dropped.

  7. Pranav Santhosh
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Apparently palace are signing a new keeper from getafe Guaita. Speroni Hennessy owners what are you guys doing?

    1. true_Jerry
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      suicide fr

    2. Dr Dream
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      What's up with what they have?....Keepers seem ok...it's other areas they desperately need to improve.

      Making the same mistake Everton made when they signed Pickford....wrong priorities.

      1. Pranav Santhosh
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Just saw it on reddit might be bs tbh

    3. Bored Bear
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Wildcarding lol.
      That and Cout news last straw.

  8. DRAFTSNAKE
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    DDG; elliot
    Alonso, Robertson; Masuaku/ Zeegelaar/ Chilwell
    Salah, Sterling, Lingard, Sane; Milivojevic
    Kane, Aguero, Carroll
    WC team, 0.0itb, how am I looking?

    1. FotnikPL
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      sorry but don't like it at all
      Robertson Chilwell, Carroll not nailed
      Zeegelaar - not solid DEF so small chance for CS, won't get attacking returns every GW

      1. DRAFTSNAKE
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Robertson is first choice LB
        same for Chilwell
        Zeeg I would only play against weak opp obvs
        Carroll didn't play 2 days after the brom game because he was tired. Risk worth taking imo,& in that bracket who else is there really?? Murray and DCL?

    2. Bored Bear
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Have to have some risks to keep it interesting. Think Carroll is a risk too far though as didn't even play second DGW match when Arnie was injured.

  9. FirminoIsBetterThanYou
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC draft:
    Hennessey/Adrian Foster
    Alonso VVD Stones Duffy Masukau
    Hazard Salah Sterling Ramsey (If fit) Lingard
    Kane Wilson Ayew
    Then Kane -> Aguero after next gameweek.

    1. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Selling Kane before Southampton away or after? Other than that looks good.

      1. The Royal Robin
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        After NEXT GW. So after Saints presumably.

    2. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Just get aguero now

  10. vanillasky639
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    christensen van dijk or stones?

    rest of team includes:
    pope - adrian
    alonso - jones - masuaku- chilwell
    salah - sterling - lingard - *** - carroll
    aguero - kane - quaner

    *yet to pick final midfielder - will have between 6.2 and 6.4.
    if i go stones or van dijk I can get richarlison but if I go for christensen I'll have to find a cheaper mid alternative

  11. Isboo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Pope & Mahrez
    or
    DDG & Arnautovic

    Cheers

    1. vanillasky639
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      DDG + Arnie

  12. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Is Firmino going to get a ban?

    1. Alan_T
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      All sorts of rumours, inc 10 match ban.

      If so, I'm all over Solanke at 4.7

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Will find out Tuesday or Wednesday I guess.

    3. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Don't think he will.

  13. jake0910
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Who do we think is the best GK to have until the end of the season?

    DDG? Pope? Adrian?

    1. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      2 of those 3.

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Pope and Adrián rotate nicely for a number of weeks

    3. vanillasky639
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      DDG + Adrian unless u need funds elsewhere or have man u cover in phil jones then pair Pope + Adrian

    4. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      DDG

      1. Alan_T
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Unless Hart goes to Newcastle

  14. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Which one to fund Morata to Kun?

    a) Otamendi to Stones
    b) Son to Lingard
    c) Fabianski DCL to 3.9 Crouch

    1. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      B

  15. Rash
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Going to take me a few weeks to attain but how's this team look?

    Pickford Elliot
    Alonso otamendi Jones VVD mee
    Salah sterling lingard Arnie Mcarther
    Kane aguero niasse

    Too much in defence? Midfield too light?

    1. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      4-4-2 looks strong

  16. ooooo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Which one to have after stoke game?
    A) Jones (have DDG)
    B) Van Dijk

    1. Ask Yourself
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      VVD could be great i’m Going for him

    2. Rash
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      B

    3. FotnikPL
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      What has DDG to do with it?
      For defenders CS is priority, all attacking returns will be great bonus. Look at the fixtures and the way both teams are playing and draw your own conclusions.
      For me Man Utd is better in terms of defending so Jones is my choice.

  17. The Royal Robin
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    GTG for next week?

    Pope
    Ogbonna VVD Jones Alonso
    Sterling Gross Lingard (VC) Eriksen Arnie
    Kane (C)

    Adrian Otamendi Firmino*? Quaner

    1. ooooo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

    2. FotnikPL
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      just delete "*?" from Firmino and play him instead of Ogbonna or Gross.

      1. FotnikPL
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        no, actually why would you bench Otamendi? 3rd best scoring DEF with goal threat? Fixture not an issue, he scored at Old Trafford. Last 8 games - 11 bonus pts.
        Play Ota and Firmino over Ogbonna and Gross IMO.

  18. Gwk 23 stat Attack
    G-Whizz
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    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    GW23 DS Stats, Clean Sheet and Fixture Odds.

    In GW22 the DS showed Manchester City at 531 for their fixture with Watford and they duly won 3-1. Spurs also came to the fore with a DGW with 436DS against Swansea and came through with a 2-0 victory. However with a huge 507DS against West Ham they could only manage a 1-1 draw coming from a goal down.

    Last week's stats can be found here:
    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/17384429

    GW23 DS stats:
    ARS: bou 151
    BOU: ARS -151
    BRI: wba 0
    BUR: cpl 74
    CHE: LEI 418
    CPL: BUR -74
    EVE: tot -397
    HUD: WHM 86
    LEI: che -418
    LIV: MCI -53
    MCY: liv 53
    MUN: STK 546
    NEW: SWA 194
    SOT: wat -22
    STK: mun -546
    SWA: new -194
    TOT: EVE 397
    WAT: SOU 22
    WBA: BRI 0
    WHU: hud -86

    This week it looks like it's Manchester United's turn at the top with a 546DS for their Monday fixture with Stoke, followed by Chelsea (418DS) and then Tottenham (397DS).
    (Doosra gives a more detailed explanation of these numbers here http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/16458109)

    GW23 Fixture Odds can be found here:
    http://prntscr.com/hx6wny
    (Provided by Betfair.com)

    Clean sheet odds: Implied chance of a clean sheet
    Man Utd 1.66 60%
    Tottenham 1.72 58%
    Chelsea 1.90 53%
    West Brom 2.0 50%
    Newcastle 2.10 48%
    Crystal Palace 2.25 44%
    Arsenal 2.60 38%
    Huddersfield 2.62 38%
    West Ham 3.0 33%
    Brighton 3.20 31%
    Watford 3.20 31%
    Burnley 3.60 28%
    Southampton 3.75 27%
    Swansea 4.0 25%
    Man City 4.20 24%
    Liverpool 5.0 20%
    Bournemouth 7.50 13%
    Everton 10.0 10%
    Leicester 10.0 10%
    Stoke 11.0 9%
    (Provided by Betfair.com)

    Happy New Year everyone and good luck with your selections for the forthcoming week 🙂

    G

    1. InSaneMan-e
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      these posts are under rated. Surprised Ars-Bou doesnt have a higher DS.

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        I'm surprised at the West Ham one too but then again I am biased lol

        1. InSaneMan-e
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Oh yea! didn't pay much attention to that one, but i agree

        2. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Looks reasonable to me.
          West Ham have the worst away record apart from Stoke.

          1. G-Whizz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            That stat I suppose puts it into perspective but against Huddersfield? Geez c'mon you Irons ffs lol

            1. RedLightning
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 13 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Huddersfield have a reasonable home record - 4 wins, 4 draws, 3 losses.

              1. G-Whizz
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                • 6 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                Thanks Red. I'll keep me money in my pocket and not bet on that one...

    2. El-Kloppico
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      WHM to get beaten by HUD?
      Dont think so

      1. G-Whizz
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        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        As Red points out above our away record would make that stat quite plausible :/

    3. Pieterke30
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Spurs in the three teams more likely to score? don't think so

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        No. Spurs have the LOWEST DS of the three teams. Man United are most likely of the three...

    4. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      cheers G

    5. The Overthinker
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Captain Salah. Let's beat those odds !!

    6. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Awesome as ever. Would you play Masuaka over Duffy? Struggling to make the call.

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Yes I would, the Bookies point that way even if the DS doesn't and I'm slightly biased too lol

        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Cheers matey! I like the threat Masu offers too

  19. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Is there any point in waiting to get Lingard in for Coutinho? Shall I do it now to avoid the price rise/fall?

    1. The Royal Robin
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I wouldn't hesitate. Coutinho is done in the PL and Lingard is in the form of his career.

    2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      I’d do it.

      Coutinho shone so he will continue to fall

    3. InSaneMan-e
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      definitely get rid of Couts

  20. ooooo
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 2 months ago

    Holgate accused Firmino of racism even though,
    Ref was there, he didn't react to anything
    Players were there, no direct reaction to it
    Firmino can't speak English
    Holagte can't speak Portuguese

    Holgate should be banned for lying.

    1. InSaneMan-e
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      yes, if it is a lie
      Suarez couldn't speak much English and pulled a racial slur
      But i agree pulling the race card is an easy option.

      1. ooooo
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah that is true but it looks like Holgate has just guessed what Firmino was saying.

    2. Alan_T
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 2 months ago

      Lol

    3. @persecuted_by_mods
        6 years, 2 months ago

        You don't have to speak a language fluently to know one word FFS, nobody knows what happened apart from Firmino and Holgate. Hopefully the refs mic picked something up, although not sure if that's recorded or not

        1. Nascimento
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          I think the ref went to the 4th official to check if the mic had picked anything up. If it had, he'd surely have been dismissed there and then.

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Ah right, it'll just have to be a he said she said situation then. Everybody loses. Curse Jonjo Kenny's head for getting in the way at the vital moment

            • Alan_T
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              I'm not so sure. Refs seem petrified of making decisions these days

          2. ooooo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            That is true

        2. Nascimento
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          What if Holgate just misheard?

          1. ooooo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            true

        3. Sims
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Do u only post pro Liverpool stuff?

          1. ooooo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            What?

            1. Sims
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Do u only post biased stuff?

              1. ooooo
                • 6 Years
                6 years, 2 months ago

                No

        4. barracuda
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Holgate is a racist? Weird, his outlook wouldn't suggest that.

          1. ooooo
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Where did I say he was racist?

          2. Sims
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            He never said he was racist but being of colour doesn't mean u can't be racist

        5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Very irresponsible post.
          You have absolutely no idea what was said.

          I find it incredible some fans will make comments such as this simply because it's one of their players.

          1. Sims
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Liverpool fans are a joke Did the same when suarez was beig racist. Probably should use the coutinho money to buy a time machine so they can live in the past just like their fellow pool supporters

            1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Tbf not just Liverpool fans. Lots of football fans ar weird like that, unfair to generalise. The Liverpool fans are now just extra touchy for obvious reasons.

      • J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        I need some opinions please!

        A) Play Richarlison and Stones every week because I require a 3.9M defender to afford them.

        B) downgrade Richarlison to Atsu which allows me to upgrade the 3.9M defender to Mustafi.
        This then allows me to rotate between 4,4,2 and 3,5,2 depending on atsu/mustafi/stones fixtures.

        1. InSaneMan-e
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          B probably
          Richarlison was frustrating for me, got rid

          1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Thanks.

            Yes he’s been frustrating for me as well. But his three fixtures that are coming up look good!

            1. InSaneMan-e
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              he was frustrating through some nice fixtures!
              tbh i think he needed a rest, which he is getting
              i remember when Kane got that weeks rest, after which he went beast mode

        2. WINNING!
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          B
          Simple

          1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Thanks.

            What makes it so simple for you?

            The flexibility?

            1. InSaneMan-e
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Arsenal have some nice fixtures too, Mustafi is a good option

            2. WINNING!
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Flexibility and back up.

        3. ooooo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          B

        4. Isboo
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          always keep something viable on the bench

        5. Balance
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          A

      • Zinedine Kilbane
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Any issue with following wildcard- Prefer hazard over salah for next few week. So it was 1 or the other

        Cech- Pereira
        Alonso- Jones- Martina- Ogbonna- Mbemba
        Hazard- Sterling- Lingard- Gross- Obiang
        Kane- Aguero- Ayew

        1. ooooo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Don't like Cech. Haz over Salah might work out but very risky. Salah is fixture proof and doesn't blank often.

          1. Zinedine Kilbane
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Initially had DDG but preferred arsenal fixtures. U think would be better with stones and DDG over Cech and Jones?

            1. ooooo
              • 6 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Yes

        2. InSaneMan-e
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          fairly solid. Would have liked 1 more solid defender but i guess you cant have them all

        3. WINNING!
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Seems like a lot riding on Hazard and Ayew to perform
          If you downgrade them you can improve the mid and def.

      • Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        What's the current nailedoniness status of Smalling?

        1. InSaneMan-e
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          really dont know. Jones is the most nailed defender. I suspect he will alter with Lindelof/Rojo

          1. km79
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Since Jose took over Nones has started almost every single league game he has been for for .
            He and Valencia are the only 2 near certainties along with DDG

            1. km79
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              *Jones

            2. InSaneMan-e
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              i meant Smalling with rotate with Rojo/Lindelof. I agree Jones is the most nailed in that defensive line-up

      • InSaneMan-e
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Anything for a hit guys? used my FT to get in Lingard. Plan for Kun/Lukaku for Laca but have to keep him vs Bou. Obv DCL has to go but not a priority just yet i feel

        Elliot/Pope
        Azpi Jones Lascelles
        Eriksen Son Pogba Lingard Arnie
        Kane Lacazette

        bench: Masuaku, DCL, Holgate

      • Weasel51
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Pope
        Otamendi Jones Ogbonna
        Lingard Sterling Arnautovic Son Salah
        Kane Firmino

        0 FT 3.1 ITB
        ---------------------------------------------------
        GW23: Kiko > Alonso (-4)
        GW24: Kane > Aguero

        Good moves?

        1. InSaneMan-e
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          gw 23 yes
          gw 24, i'm still sceptical. Kane could score against those difficult teams, Liverpool away is tough with their home record, but he scored vs Utd at home last season, and he loves a london derby

      • Differentiator
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Wow!

        Super strong Spurs lineup!

        1. TLF
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Is it ? Haven't seen it announced yet

          1. Differentiator
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Vorm - Trippier - Vertonghen - Foyth - Walker-Peters - Sissoko - Wanyama - Dembele - Kane - LLorente

            1. TLF
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              Thanks !

      • barracuda
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Lovely weather in south west of England today. Gonna drink to that

        1. G-Whizz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Not bad here in Dorset either, chin chin!

      • Digital-Real
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        The WHU fixtures are strong, why no talk of Chicarito as the cheap striker?

        1. ooooo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Tap in merchant and showing no sign of form

          1. Digital-Real
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Carroll is back, that will help Chicarito. He's a poacher and with Carroll keeping the defenders busy, this improves Chica's goal scoring prospects.

        2. InSaneMan-e
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Also i'd think Carroll will start after his 2 goals

          1. Digital-Real
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            Chicarito can play off Carroll. I'd be surprised if Moyes doesn't try that.

        3. Ask Yourself
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Moyes hates him, wants any excuse not to play him which is why he is being starved of service every appearance.

          1. Digital-Real
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 2 months ago

            They have history?

            1. Pranav Santhosh
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 2 months ago

              United?

      • SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        Best Coutinho replacement here? 0.6m itb. Cheers

        hazard coutinho alli sterling arnie
        kane dcl quaner

        1. WINNING!
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Lingard, You need to upgrade DCL

      • vanillasky639
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 2 months ago

        stones or van dijk?

        1. Balance
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          VVD for me. Attk threat

        2. WINNING!
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 2 months ago

          Stones in a flash