Transfers

Market Forces – Gameweek 5

Another eventful Gameweek comes to a close, handing us possibly the biggest transfer bandwagon of the season so far.

Paul Pogba’s injury setback fuelled much market activity before the deadline, but that could pale in significance when compared with the return to prominence of an overlooked Fantasy legend.

This Gameweek, 7,142,233 total transfers were made – only a slight drop on the 7,863,661 last time out – suggesting that a high proportion of managers are very much involved with their squads and driving the current trends.

Continuing our series of weekly articles, we at whogottheassist.com are reviewing and commenting on behaviours in the Fantasy Premier League market place, looking at common themes and giving our view on the viability of the transfers taking place.

King Kun returns…

After a 20-point haul served notice of Sergio Aguero’s continued ability to strike fear into the hearts of both defences and non-owning Fantasy managers, Kun has returned to prominence with a bang.

Almost written off as playing second fiddle to Gabriel Jesus at the beginning of the season, the auto-captain of old has surely never scored such a huge tally while owned by so few.

Only 10% (he was in around 500,000 teams) were savvy enough to keep the faith with the Argentinian ahead of the trip to Watford.

A flurry of transfers has followed as FPL managers fall over themselves to work Aguero into their squads.

He’s already restored to his starting price of 11.5, having suffered a fall to 11.4 in the first few Gameweeks, with another overnight hike on the cards.

In the last 24 hours alone, we’ve seen more than 195,000 new managers swoop, with all manner of premium forwards – Romelu Lukaku, Roberto Firmino, Harry Kane and, to a lesser extent Alvaro Morata – all making way.

In some cases his strike partner Gabriel Jesus has been the makeweight, with almost 18,000 making an awkward and perhaps ill-fated sideways shuffle.

Both Kane (who recently rose back to 12.5 ahead of the “gimme” that never was against Swansea City) and Firmino (now 8.7) were recent bandwagons which seem to have been derailed by their own failings and the rise of Aguero.

Again, this demonstrates how fickle the market can be: one week’s hero becomes the next week’s zero.

However, the Lukaku sales are perhaps the most interesting factor.

Over 45,000 managers have now sold the United striker for his City rival, either before or even following the Belgian’s return of 12 points (goal, assist, max bonus) against his former club Everton.

Lukaku was also shedding owners prior to Sunday’s haul, with more than 101,000 moving him on ahead of Friday’s deadline.

The Belgian’s consistency – he’s now scored five in five – and huge ownership (still at over 50%) should obviously be considered prior to his sale, but we’re seeing many a manager blinded by the explosive potential of Aguero.

Perhaps Jose Mourinho’s comments suggesting that Lukaku has lost penalty duties is a factor. Maybe United’s disappointing performance on Sunday is another. Only time will tell if a switch from Lukaku to Aguero will pay off, but there’s no doubting the risk involved.

…and so does his assister

Another man to return to prominence is the diminutive wizard David Silva, whose 11 points at Watford would have delighted his near-150,000 new Gameweek 5 owners.

Silva was a major beneficiary of sales of Paul Pogba, with 60,818 of his new managers swapping him in for the Frenchman.

Our memories of sepia-tinged seasons past were reanimated in watching City’s display against the Hornets.

Silva’s pair of assists – he’s up to four for the season – supplied Aguero’s second goal and also a first of the season for Nicolas Otamendi (another to rise in price). Throughout Saturday’s display, Silva’s silky, string-pulling performance, reminded us of his qualities and hinted at a new potency as an FPL asset.

Now at 8.3 (0.3 up from a kind starting price of 8.0), if he’s able to build on this start he may also prove to be an irresistible force to sit alongside a City striker in our squads.

Many already think so: 168,000+ have brought in Silva since Friday’s deadline, no doubt hoping that the Spaniard will fill his boots in Gameweek 6’s fixture against a struggling Crystal Palace.

Speaking of assisters…

Armenian playmaker Henrikh Mkhitaryan also continues to see his ownership flourish.

He recorded a first goal of the season on Sunday, rewarding 317,647 new owners ahead of Gameweek 5. Of those, a total of 185,996 were straight swaps from his stricken team-mate Pogba.

Another 76,000+ Pogba owners have also swapped in Mkhitaryan following Sunday’s nine-point return.

Mkhitaryan is the first player to have risen a full 0.5 from his starting price – giving his early adopters a 0.2 in selling value – and he is only the second player to earn more than a million transfers since the start of the season, along with defender Ahmed Hegazi at West Brom.

Gross rush puts Ritchie in the shade

Following up on his astonishing 18-point haul versus West Brom, Brighton playmaker Pascal Gross was on hand to supply the assist for Solly March at Bournemouth on Friday night.

Despite the fact that his side went down 2-1, he still accrued a couple of bonus points to move into fourth in the midfield standings.

With blanks for many of the past flavours of the week in his price bracket – Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting, Richarlison, Jese and Aaron Mooy spring to mind – Gross’ second week of returns has excited FPL managers. Some 84,475 have picked him up in the last 24 hours and more than 150,000 have brought him in since Friday’s tally.

Some have seen an immediate return from making the direct switch from Pogba, with 23,559 swapping to him ahead of Gameweek 5, and 31,000+ taking that route since.

Gross’ returns appear to have blinded managers to another stand-out performer in the same bracket.

Newcastle United’s Matt Ritchie, who has assisted in the past four matches in all competitions, has enjoyed only modest interest. Mrre than 69,000 have brought him in, just over a third of the 182,000 who have turned to Brighton’s Gross.

Now valued at 5.6, having risen overnight, it could be that the minor difference in price (0.3 now) is causing the disparity.

(Limited) wind in Lascelles

Staying with the Magpies, their captain Jamaal Lascelles rose to 4.6 in the early hours.

Despite his match-winning goal last week against Swansea City, the centre-back attracted only 66,329 new owners ahead of Gameweek 5, surprisingly lagging behind his defensive team-mates Jesus Gamez (72,879), Ciaran Clark (75,847) and keeper Rob Elliot (104,125).

After scoring his second goal in two outings, though, we have seen him shoot to prominence, with 158,000+ bringing him in ahead of Gameweek 6.

More than 19,000 have downgraded the suspended David Luiz to the Magpies’ skipper.

However, there could be a natural cap in the interest Lascelles will generate, with the availability of 4.0/4.1 options from Newcastle in the form of Chancel Mbemba and bargain-bucket keeper Rob Elliot.

Those two are again picking up interest, with more than 63,000+ turning to Mbemba after his unexpected outing against Stoke City, and almost 38,000+ acquiring Elliot in goal ahead of a Gameweek 6 trip to Brighton.

Will he Otamendi a Luiz-shaped hole?

A final mention goes to the rise of Argentine brawler-cum-defender Nicolas Otamendi, who is picking up traffic off the back of his 12-point goal and clean sheet haul at Watford.

Over 118,000 have acquired his services so far as he picks up significant owners from Luiz’s suspension – almost 33,000 have brought him in as a direct swap for the banned Chelsea defender.

Otamendi has demonstrated a surprising goal threat: a post denied him a first goal at Bournemouth before his strike against Watford. Indeed, only Marcos Alonso can better his seven shots on goal so far among defenders.

But with Vincent Kompany nearing a return, we can’t yet rule out Guardiola’s rotation policy and a first stint on the bench. Given our experience with Ben Davies in Gameweek 5, there is perhaps a need for caution.

Conclusion

The return of Aguero and his sidekick Silva have definitely shaken things up, with many managers no doubt coming to the realisation that City can no longer be ignored.

It’s true that the early template had overlooked City due to Guardiola’s inconsistent teamsheets, but there are now two factors at play.

For one, the City boss appears to be reducing the severity of his rotation – certainly, that’s in evidence to this point. Secondly, his attacking options have proved their ability to blow through teams in such explosive fashion that their potential returns perhaps outweigh any risks at play.

The market continues to revolve, with little sign of order being restored as yet. This is highlighted by Firmino and Kane’s fall from grace, alongside a conveyor belt of mid-price midfielders that shift in and out of favour.

Before Gameweek 5 we saw 223,767 Wildcards played. However, we wonder if, with a shift in fixtures for Chelsea, Everton and Man City approaching, coupled with the latter’s red-hot form, if that number might be surpassed this week.

This could cause another dramatic change in the market, with some assets suddenly commanding a much larger ownership base. Wildcard purchases do not count toward price rises/falls – but they could certainly influence trends to come, depending on whether the popular targets fire or fail.

Either way, expect more turbulence as we move out of the first five Gameweeks and things perhaps begin to settle, with template squads firming up.

Nick and Tom WGTA We're Individual and Matamatics on FFS, and started our own site to add our voice to the FPL community and for FFS in particular.

3,358 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Wildcard has been triggered, should have done it last night but wasn't 100% sure but I am now.
    Feels good especially as I don't wildcard this early in a season usually.

    1. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Good for you GNU .. I've done the same (although Sunday night to catch some risers).

      I had 11 away players this week and the team needed revamping. Just hope i don't make the cliche mistake of chasing points.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Should have last night and actually didn't confirm at 2.12 and I felt a wee bit releived it didn't.
        Checked through it tonight and was convinced it was the right move.

        1. Test Eagles
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Nice. To infinite and beyond old mate.

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers Buzz 😆

    2. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Enjoy, cracking time wildcarding and tinkering.

      Going big up top?

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers Mikess,
        Team written down so will follow any possible double risers although seems unlikely.
        Big up top indeed. 🙂

    3. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Any ideas what you are going for? Personally feel like I should do something drastic and get a couple of lower owned but highly explosive players like Coutinho, Sanchez or Hazard

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Considered all three and would have liked to have waited another couple of weeks to see how they panned out.

        Plan was Aguero, Jesus & Lukaku but when Lacazette instead of Jesus at present as a punt for fixtures and then swap to Jesus after Citeh have played Chelsea.
        Let's me consider Alonso now although Azpi may get the nod.

        1. Stats Don\'t Lie
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Interesting, I assume you are making some sacrifices in midfield then?

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Kind of but that was the big consideration so let go of Alli and Kept Eriksen only.
            Decent rotation for a 4 man mid but back up from defence in one of the gameweeks.
            Erik Ramsey Choupo-Mot Brady Carroll.

    4. fedolefan
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Hmm, I wonder what changed overnight. I'm going to hold until Sanchez and Hazard are settled. GW8-GW9 I think.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Just caution and as I said I'm not an early wildcarder by nature so I wanted to look further ahead in schedules to see if I was ony delaying the inevitable.

    5. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Me too. Feeling good for the first time this season...

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        High 5 🙂

  2. Mane
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Thinking about going Alli to Hazard for somewhat of a punt. Would leave me with
    Elliot
    Naughton Davies Löwe/Dawson
    Eriksen hazard Mikhi Atsu
    Jesus Kaku firmino

    1. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I like it - Alli hasn't been great recently and Hazard is due to start surely.

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Nice team

    3. Ghost Gooner
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      He looked good v Arsenal in his cameo. Decent punt

    4. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      ok did not see Eriksen was there. Nice team GL.

  3. Schwarzer
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Would you do this for a hit?

    Gabby > Wood/Abraham/Joselu
    Antonio > Silva

    Is Silva a rotation risk?

    Cheers

    1. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I think he might be rested for the odd game but he'll mostly play.

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Don't think I wood. Just get rid of gabbi

      1. Schwarzer
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I see what you did there 😉

        Thanks guys.

  4. Pierce34
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Repost. Any suggestions for this team?

    Ward
    Ward - Ward - Sanchez - Sakho - Long
    Ward-Prowse - Sanchez - Sanches - Sako - King
    Sakho - King - Long

    Considering Gomes - Gomez - Gamez instead of Ward - Ward - Ward. Good moves?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Pierce off 😉

      1. Pierce34
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        😀

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Lol is this some sort of challenge?

      1. Pierce34
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Haha not an actual team obviously, but now I'm sort of tempted to make it and see how it does!

    3. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'd wire you a fifty to see you wildcard that team

      1. Pierce34
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I'm ranked at around 2 million so it probably won't be any worse than my current one!

    4. fedolefan
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Walker and Walker-Peters

      1. fedolefan
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        The Silva's.

        1. fedolefan
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          The Smith's. Quality thought this.

          1. Pierce34
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I might actually make a team like that as a fun team on the side now that I think about it.

      2. Pierce34
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ah of course - but that might upset the Sakho/Long balance. We'd need a couple of Walkers in attack too.

  5. MFC86
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Just gone Lukaku to Aguero

    Hopefully won't regret it ! (Probably will)

  6. ★Kuntheman★
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    We think Firmino drops tonight?

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      -98.4 so very unlikely

  7. Test Eagles
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Ended up with this lot on WC:

    Fabianski Elliot
    Kolasanic Otamendi Mee Cedric Mbemba
    Mkhi Salah Ritchie Groβ Carroll
    Lukaku Aguero Vardy

    Dropping a United defender for a City and losing Kane for Aguero ... both of which are a coin toss.

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I like that team. No spurs is brave

      1. Test Eagles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        It is ... but first sign of a failing forward and it's a straight swap to Kane (got 1.6 in the bank). Can lso downgrade Kola > Monreal and upgrade a mid. It's never a certainty, just riding the luck train like everyone else.

    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Sound.
      Was that last week or for this coming week?

      1. Test Eagles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        This coming week ... templatey I know but I feel confident with that lot for the next 4-5 gameweeks with minimal transfer from week to week.

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Mee looking to fall, I'll get him after he does.
          Mbemba might be a dodgy pick.

      2. Test Eagles
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I would have been strutting around here with a 100-point score if it was last week's!!

  8. SC not pearls before swine
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    The first penalty that Manchester City get with Jesus and Aguero on the field will be exciting. Aguero's the heavy favorite, but you never no until it happens. Or have they already had a penalty in non premier league play that I missed?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Jesus took one in May.

      1. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I remember Toure was on the field, was Kun?

    2. RESULT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Why did sterling take pen?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        He asked Pep and it was 5-0.

      2. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Cos kun already had his hattrick

      3. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        As the others have said, I think it was because Aguero already had a hatrick, City were up 5-0, and Sterling had won the penalty. And he still had to ask Sergio and Pep!

    3. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      It should be Aguero, as long as that selfish little git doesn't get in the way. But if it were not 5-0 up i don't think they'd be having a pleasant committee meeting about it ... Kun all the way!

    4. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I don't think they have. Obviously there was the Sterling penalty but that was with no Jesus, Aguero already with a hat-trick and the match completely out of reach. So yeah, we don't know but I'd expect Aguero normally.

    5. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      *know

    6. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Pep confirmed afterwards that Kun is on pens.

      1. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ah, did he? That takes some of the intrigue out of it. Still, I think Jesus will try to take them if he can.

  9. Rash
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Will richie rise tonight ?

    1. Geri-hatricks
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Unlikely tonight I'd say

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      As an owner, doubt it.

  10. waldo666
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Can Suttner survive again??

  11. Pochecinno
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Man United fans' chant about Lukaku is apparently racist. What a joke.

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Positive discrimination if anything surely

      1. Pochecinno
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        😕

    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      That really is pathetic. Nothing to do wth racism

    3. fedolefan
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Well, if you allow that, other stereotypes may start being used, and suddenly you run the risk of offending someone. I think it may have more to do with opposing supporters not coming up with similar chants for those could get nasty.

      1. Pochecinno
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        No this is ridiculous. I think it's a case of Kick Out Racism causing an issue when there isn't one. Clubs generally have the common sense to know when a chant is actually racist or not. Take Chelsea's ban of the Morata chant for example. Spot on, imo.

    4. Ghost Gooner
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Racial stereotypes are racist, why reduce a black athlete's talent to the size of his manhood? What's next their dad's washing elephants? smh

      1. Pochecinno
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Isn't the same thing.

    5. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      It's a compliment if anything

      1. Pochecinno
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly

        1. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I can't imagine Rom is thinking "oh no, please don't let it become well-known that I have a big cock - this is harmful to my lifestyle"

          1. Pochecinno
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            😆

    6. JogaSemmedo
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Forget whether it's racist or not it shouldn't even be sung because it's an absolutely awful chant.

      We've always prided ourselves as being out there as one of the best away supports and part of that has been built on creativity and originality of a lot of our chants. I don't have a season ticket any more tho and don't get to many aways either but we've got more whoppers attending games year on year and the standards are falling.

      1. Pochecinno
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I agree it's an awful chant. When I saw there was outrage over it I assumed it would be over it's 'sexual' chant.

        Let's not get into the United debate. There used to be a club that had class at Old Trafford. Then they signed Mourinho.

        1. JogaSemmedo
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          So I wont post our chant for Jose to Herman's Hermits "I'm into Something Good" then

  12. Geri-hatricks
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    I really think Aguero will kick on now.
    I've come up a few ways to get him in, which one is the best in your opinion?:

    A)
    Gabbi -> Aguero
    Mkhi -> RLC
    Stephens -> Martina
    -4 Point Hit

    B)
    Gabbi -> Aguero
    Eriksen -> up to 5.3m MID
    No Hit

    C)
    Lukaku -> Aguero
    Eriksen -> Silva
    Gabbi -> Vardy
    -4 Point Hit

    D)
    Lukaku -> Aguero
    Save FT or use it to do Stephens to 5.3m DEF

    1. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Personally I like C

      1. Geri-hatricks
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah I like how I'm getting 3 big hitters. Losing Eriksen and Lukaku could come back and bite me though..

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      C imo

      1. Geri-hatricks
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers

    3. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      C imo

  13. waldo666
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    So Huddersfield's fixtures taking a turn, did Gross to Mooy a few weeks back and thinking now the reverse might be the way to go, wanting to stick within that price bracket if I can, other thought is Atsu but I already have Joselu and not sure I'm keen on doubling up on Newcastle attack.

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe go for a stoke mid?

      1. waldo666
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks mate, I'll give it some thought

  14. mikess
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Crazy to loose on of Mkhitaryan, Eriksen or Salah to upgrade Firmino to Aguero/Lukaku right?

    Kane and Jesus my other two. Atsu and Carroll the mids

    1. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I wouldnt personally

      1. mikess
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        cheers. Difficult saving after having a no Lukaku inspired average week

    2. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      You already have Jesus. Step away from your keyboard

    3. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      You have jesus plus id lise kane ahead of any of those mids

    4. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'm actually not a big fan of Mkhitaryan, so I'd lose him if I had to pick one.

      1. mikess
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I thought this, top scoring mid tho

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Miki has only blanked in one game, be mad to drop him.

    5. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers all

  15. tm370
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Coming off my worse week ever, I'm stuck between 3 options.

    The team for this week is:
    Elliot,
    Alonso, Jones, Davies, Mee,
    Eriksen, Salah, Chopou-Moting,
    Kane, Morata, Firmino
    Schmeichel, Clark, Carroll, Chabolah

    A) Morata – Jesus
    B) Morata and Alonso – Aguero and Kolasinac (-4)
    C) Morata and Eriksen – Aguero and Mkhitaryan (-4)

    1. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B for me and hope for the best during the Che game

    2. Geri-hatricks
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I think you first have to make a decision on Jesus vs Aguero. I've been tossing and turning over it last 2 days and no one will be able to give you a definitive answer who will do better (I've gone for Aguero FWIW though).

      If you do go with Aguero though, I think B is better.

      1. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers guys.

        It's hard with Jesus vs Aguero - I think if Aguero plays consistently, he is the best bet. He will score more. The issue is that Pep may prefer Jesus' pressing in certain games, rendering Aguero more of a rotation risk.

        It's hard to ignore Kun atm though.

        1. Geri-hatricks
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah, it's those little nagging uncertainties that make FPL so hard. I think I'm going to back him in for these easier fixtures and just pray he starts as many games. He just needs another game like the weekend to justify his pick.

  16. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    What to do here chaps?

    Elliott
    Alonso Jones Bavies
    Jese Richarlison Mkhi Ritchie
    Kane Lukaku Jesus

    Foster Mbemba Lowe Chalobah

    A) Alonso Jese ➡ Silva Maguire -4
    B) Jese ➡ Gross
    C) Save FT

    1. marquinhos
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'd save

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      C

    3. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A for me as you need minimum 2 expensive mids from Silva, Eriksen, Salah etc

      1. La Roja
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Is it really worth a hit though?

        1. mikess
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Probably not, Maguire is a shout after this week imo. Bank and use two frees next week or even treat yourself to a 'mini wildcard'

          1. La Roja
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Cheers

    4. Geri-hatricks
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      save

  17. The White Pele
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    who should be benched ?
    Elliot BHA (A) or Fabianski WAT (H) .
    Atsu BHA (A) or Kiko Femenía SWA (A) .

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Elliott
      Kiko

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Fab
      Atsu

    3. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Elliot & Kiko

  18. OPTA FPL
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Is Davies going to rise now TM?

    1. Red Dagger ✪
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Not tonight but probably tomorrow...

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        ok

  19. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Price Changes - 19th September 2017

    🔺  Agüero

    🔻  Giroud, Knockaert, Delaney, Baines, Lennon, Bravo, Targett, Sobhi, Nelson

    1. ★Kuntheman★
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Perfect. 🙂

    2. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Got to be a good chance of a triple rise still

    3. Diva
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Boom!

    4. Pochecinno
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      First double rise of the season?

      1. Diva
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Third, from memory.

        1. Pochecinno
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Hegazi?

          1. Pierce34
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Didn't Pogba rise twice in a week as well?

            1. Diva
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Yep, Hegazi and Pogba.

    5. FPL_JAAFAR
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Giroud was on -82 fpl predictor.
      Thanks TM

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Bit scary, the rest over -95.

    6. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      what was the last man standing survival score this week tm?

    7. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      is that Aguero maxed for rises this week?

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        He's still got 0.1 available

        1. Diva
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          (assuming that the maximum is the same as previous seasons)

          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            He could yet drop 0.1 and then he could rise twice again

            1. Pochecinno
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 1 month ago

              Wildcarders can dream

          2. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 1 month ago

            True Diva, unknown territory as with every season I guess. Could go higher if they've shifted the algothingy.

      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Needs about 160K

    8. waldo666
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Suttner!!

    9. fedolefan
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      As long as Kane doesn't drop in price and cost me money I'm happy. The Aguero price rises are good, but this week has only shown no one is a season-keeper and big hitters will need chopping and changing depending on fixtures.

    10. Supersonic
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Any chance of Mee or suttner going down to 4.4? Currently have holgate with 0itb ...

    11. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      cheers TM

    12. Kloppen Schloppen
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Suttner get in!

  20. Test Eagles
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Everyone ready for City to grind out a 1-0 win over Palace with a Scott Dann own goal, Whilst United draw 0-0 at Soton?

    1. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'm pretty sure I remember City beating Palace 1-0 a couple of years ago, with a late goal by Iheanacho (who was then unknown).

  21. A Betting Man
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    I've attempted to draw up a rough comparison of the top 3 striking options using the top goalscorer odds right now, which are:

    Lukaku - 4.0 bookmakers - 4.2 exchange = 4.1 avg
    Kane - 4.5 bookmakers - 4.3 exchange = 4.4 avg
    Aguero - 5.0 bookmakers - 5.0 exchange = 5.0 avg

    If you take 25 goals as a round benchmark for the golden boot. (Sporting index have a market which has Lukaku top on exactly 25 predicted goals), Then use a midpoint average odds between the three of 4.55.
    Then by dividing the individual player odds into the above average, and subtracting the goals already scored, you can project the predicted 'additional goals' for each player:

    Lukaku - 22.18 additional goals = 27.18 total
    Kane - 23.78 additional goals = 25.78 total
    Aguero - 18.2 additional goals = 23.2 total

    For FPL purposes, additional goals expected per £:

    Lukaku - 1.89
    Kane - 1.90
    Aguero - 1.58

    I'm not sure if my method is flawed, other than the obvious fact that it doesn't consider other sources of points, and explosive potential. I'll admit I did all this 'on the fly' and was excited to see such close figures between Lukaku & Kane, and then somewhat dismayed at the Aguero figure. But I guess just over 23 total goals does sound about right, and it serves to highlight the fact that he already has 5 of these. You can't expect a hattrick every week. Chasing points and all that...

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      The way city play, id be surprised if Aguero got anything less than 25 baring an injury ridden spell...

    2. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      My only concern is the amount of minutes Kun plays each season. If he plays 2000 minutes he will get 25. If he actually played a full season he would get closer to 35.

      1. A Betting Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I'm sure the odds have taken that into account though.

        For what it's worth, I think the 4/1 you can get on Kane with one firm is the bet to have.

        FPL wise, maybe all 3 are the ones to have 😀

      2. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        That's a pretty compelling argument to have him when he's healthy

  22. Slam
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Is there any competition for Ward at Burnley?

    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Only at the Burger bar.

      1. Slam
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Wrong Ward 😉

        1. Albrightondknight
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah should have checked with Pierce - see above.

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe bardsley could fill in? Nothing serious though

  23. JasonG123
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    RMT (-4)

    Elliot (Speroni)
    Bavies Jones Suttner (Francis Rosenoir)
    Salah Mkhi Ritchie Atsu (T.Carroll)
    Aguero (c) Lukaku (VC) Kane

    1. Slam
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Gtg

    2. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      great if Ritchie and Atsu can keep up their good work. Wouldn't like to play Francis or Suttner each week but that's for another week

    3. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Very nice team.

  24. Slam
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Also, is it me or is Bellerin more nailed than Kolasinac long term? You never know when Wengerotation kicks in and Monreal spontaneously gets a chance at Wing Back.

    1. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Perhaps, but Kolasinac can play both wings, can't he? Could equally start with Monreal and Kolasinac left and right and leave Bellerin out.

  25. mikess
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Who would you start from Hegazi, Mbemba and Schindler?

    I'd likely play Elliot over Foster

  26. Aguero v Jesus
    Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Just thought id share my 2 cents on the Aguero or jesus debate. Aguero is 1m, obviously that can be a substantial amount if used effectively, for example the difference between a ramsey/willian and a David Silva.
    However, I think Aguero is worth the extra. From watching the Man City games I think as impressive as Jesus, he still has much to learn. He has great movement and is a very good runner, but Aguero just seems to having this extra killer instinct, almost as if the ball is trying to find him. He's also, imo, a better finisher.
    Aguero also gets more minutes. Should he be rested tomorrow or feature only as a cameo he'll be nailed to start vs Palace and unlike Jesus he makes it past the 70 min mark 90% of the time.
    Aguero is also more explosive. I wouldn't be surprised to see Aguero score another Hattie vs palace or something like 8g in the next 5g. I would be surprised if Jesus managed that. Especially in the formations that Guardiola plays the season, Aguero actually looks a striker again as opposed to last season where at times he seemed to be playing a sort of false 9/playmaker role.
    Finally, Aguero to me is more of a captaincy pick. As much as if I owned him id be drawn to Jesus as Captain this week he simply doesn't fill me with the same level of confidence that a player of aguero's calibre does.

    1. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      howay man! I'm trying to save my transfer

    2. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I mostly agree. If Kun/Jesus play equal minutes, I'd take Aguero, even at 1 million extra. I'm not 100% sure we know how the minutes will be distributed long term though. If City weren't up 4-0 and 3-0 against Watford and Liverpool, would Jesus have been subbed off as early as he was? There's value for Aguero in playing garbage time, but it's still too early to say how the minutes will shake out.

      1. Pratik
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I think its the predictability of the minutes which will frustrate us (captain him, and he comes in for a cameo)....Both are potent forces, and I expect points to be split between them over the course of the season. Its an interesting dilemma, great for the manager, not great for fpl.

    3. Balance
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Aguero had also created far more chances than Jesus - seems quite involved in overall play besides scoring.

    4. DantheManinaPan
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Pray for those of us without either.
      I'm wary about taking too much from this post atm. Do you have any stats or data to back up this viewpoint?
      And we all know how infuriating Pep can be...

    5. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      On Penos too

    6. Adams6
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I've got Jesus and very strongly tempted to get Kun as well. They've got SO many goals in them. Kun/Jesus/Lukaku front line when ML rules say I can't have Kane is looking good

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I'm thinking this too. Could be Suarez sturridge all over again

  27. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Based on fixture changes thinking of going
    Foster and Mbemba
    To 4.0 keeper and Martina

    Elliot on his own is a risk but it's not like I want to risk a NEW double up defence any week.

    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I could have just said Is Martina nailed?

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      WC? Wouldn't bet on Martina playing, massive rotation risk with Holgate around

    3. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Would Elliot and Woodman be a solution or is Darlow back soon and expected to be first choice sub?

    4. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I want some Everton defence the fixtures are too good. Not WC just trying to get a EVE defender in sooner rather than later - Martina cheap. After playing two I was hoping he might have the spot. Also could Koeman revert to 4 at the back?

  28. We Will Klopp you
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    If Kane blanks vs WHU, it's gonna take a lot of self control to keep myself from taking him out for Lukaku

    1. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'm going Kane, Lukaku, Jesus and keeping all 3 for at least 2 games before I reassess.

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Sounds good, I just prefer the 2 premes and one mid priced forward and mid instead but I definitely see the idea with the triple premium striker move, easy downgrade if necessary too

        1. Pierce34
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 1 month ago

          True - for all we know it could be time to get Hazard or Sanchez in a couple of weeks.

    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'm on WC now and if that happens; easy decision to do it if you have no other team issues to deal with. Then GW8 can reverse the transfer if you want Kane back (and likely cheaper).

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yep, Hudds may be a tough nut to crack too

    3. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      On WC and likely going Kane-less. Can't have a player at that price I don't have confidence in. Will need to start getting points regularly for me to get him back

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        If I was on wildcard and could move funds about id be tempted by that for sure, I've shown more patience with Kane than I've afforded any other player in all season playing fpl from memory so he's gonna have to repay that faith shortly

    4. fedolefan
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Well, for those of us who already have Lukaku, I wouldn't even know what to do. Kane -> Kun (who has chelsea) and then Kaku to Kane again? Ugh, I think it is this week to get rid of Kane or wait until GW9.

  29. I am 42
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    those who bought in kun at 11.4 already made 0.1m

    even if he blanks 😀

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      or gets injured midweek 😛

    2. Pierce34
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, I'm annoyed I made the decision to WC on Sunday instead of Saturday.

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Same here. We can only hope for a 20minute cameo with a goal to push his buyers up further

      2. Somnus84
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Same here: And now I have Hegazi instead of Cedric because I am $0.1m short...

  30. SKENG
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 1 month ago

    What to do here - WC maybe?? I know 2 NEW mids is weird, but not really my priority tbh... 1 FT, 2.1m ITB

    Elliot
    Davies Yoshida Mee
    Salah Eriksen Ritchie Atsu
    Kane Lukaku Gabbiadini

    Begovic Carroll Stephens Long

    A) Gabbiadini > Vardy
    B) Gabbiadini > Rooney
    C) Stephens > Kolasinac
    D) WC
    E) Something else...

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      D

    2. mikess
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Gabs and Stephens out -4 imo

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 1 month ago

      The 3 S'ton players are an issue now. Double Toon mids isn't the worst.
      ACDB for me perhaps.

      1. lespaul
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I like C