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29 October 2010 1544 comments
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With Cesc’s return at City, the Arsenal playmaker is back on the radar and available for a cut-down price of 11.8 in the Fantasy Premier League game. The question is, do you spend points and conduct major surgery to bring in the mercurial midfielder now, or hold you fire, bank on cheaper alternatives and look to work him in as the Gameweek’s progress?

Mark “While Samir Nasri did a more than capable job of filling the void and provided a major distraction with a stunning performance against City last weekend, for me there was plenty of evidence on the return of Fabregas on Sunday, to suggest that the Gunners skipper will be an essential Fantasy signing this season.

He picked up another two FPL Bonus points, his sixth and seventh of a season that has seen him complete just one period of 90 minutes. Our recent “Minute Men” article for Members outlined just why the Arsenal skipper remains so highly conspicuous when it comes to these added extras and there’s every reason to suspect that Fabregas will go on hoovering up these points with regularity.

Assists will also look after themselves – a huge number of touches and passes in the opponents half and a massive influence at set-plays will surely see to that – double figures in this area looks assured. While Cesc might struggle to keep pace with the likes of Florent Malouda when it comes to goals, again double figures look likely – despite the missed spot-kick at Eastlands. I can personally see him fetching a 10/14 season for goals/assists – a return which would certainly justify his current price tag. That price will likely rise to the 12.5 mark by December, and the first major points haul will likely prove the catalyst for the first jump in ownership. With struggling West Ham at the Emirates this weekend, that first big scoring week may be just days away.

In short then, I’m buying into Fabregas now. I’ve spent four points to seal his capture at his current price with the promise of getting three of those points back with the obligatory Bonus return against the Hammers. That potential and the opportunity to hand Fabregas the armband in a week when Drogba and co face a tricky Ewood encounter and Nani faces Spurs, is more than enough to convince me that the timing is right.”

G-G-Granville “Fabregas look like the essential purchase this week and since he’s owned by a paltry 8.6%, it represents a huge differential in a week where it looks like he is guaranteed points. Judging by the transfers in this week, the majority have chosen Nasri over Fabregas, at a ratio of 5 to 1, understandable considering his recent form and outstanding value. I would be surprised however if he outscored Fabregas for the second week running.

There is always one thing to consider with him. Will his hamstrings continue to hamper his appearances and if so are you happy to be benching him or swapping him in and out?”

Da Beeeez “Count me in for getting Fabregas immediately. This is a serious bargain to be able to get Fabregas at a discount price, and well worth the 4-point hit that I must pay to make it happen. Whether he plays deep or presses forward, Arsenal are creating attacking opportunities (and getting penalties) and he’s always a presence at the bonus point trough. It may be a stretch for Fabregas to match his 15 goals and 15 assists from last season, but he should make a run at 200 fantasy points again before all is said and done. I understand why some people are floating the idea of opting for Samir Nasri plus using the extra cash elsewhere, but it feels like a classic case of chasing last week’s points. If you got Nasri’s points last week, enjoy them (I left him on the bench – doh!). If you missed Nasri’s points last week, curse and swear and then move on. But seriously, are we even having this debate if Nasri doesn’t score against City and Hart doesn’t save Fabregas’ penalty kick? With Lampard struggling to get healthy and to find a role, Gerrard stuck in the midst of Liverpool’s current chaos, and Malouda subject to emerging rotation speculation, Fabregas is an easy selection from the mega-expensive midfielders. All aboard!!!”

El Fozzie “I’m well aware that I’m the new boy and have committed my fair share of rookie mistakes so far this season, so it’s just possible I’m about to commit another howler, but right now, I’m not sure Fabregas is worth it. Other members of the same midfield can be acquired for a fraction of the price, and the money saved can be used to double up on Arsenal’s attacking players (Nasri, Arshavin, Chamakh even Walcott) and take full advantage of their upcoming fixtures.

As Fabregas is still coming back from injury, I’m concerned that he won’t be as sharp in and around the box as he is when fully fit. I also worry that immediately post-injury is the most likely time for big players to pick up another knock or a strain and Wenger could play it safe, preferring to keep him fit for the Champions League game against Shakhtar Donetsk on Wednesday.

I also think there are equally good options available for a far lower price in the form of Nasri and Walcott, both of whom are looking very sharp and in goal-scoring form. With regards to Nasri in particular (who’s my pick), I actually think this could be the season where he comes out from underneath Fab’s shadow to become a major star in his own right, he’s certainly looked the part so far and although he’s not involved in as many passes as Cesc might be, it seems like he’s involved further up the field. Walcott is more hit and miss of course, but when he’s on song his pace and skill make him unplayable and pace alone makes him a natural beneficiary of any off-side trap springing through-balls.

Ultimately then, if Fabregas were in the same bracket as Nasri and Walcott I would probably still prefer him, but given the differential in price (and the fact it’s likely to mean some chicanery in sacrificing points and/or other star players to get him in), I think Nasri is the better option, possibly with Walcott as support if you want to double up.”

Andy “I’ll be brief on this one. Without a shadow of a doubt I want Cesc Fabregas in my team, so much so that I sold Samir Nasri last week. Okay, that didn’t turn out too well in the end, but [when fit] Cesc is the closest I think I could ever come to regarding someone as “essential”. He’s not – no-one is, in my mind – but if I can get him in for fixtures at home to West Ham and Newcastle to hand him the armband he’s well worth chucking into my team, even for a hit. The fact that Nasri’s 14 point haul at Man City means the spotlight is somewhat deflected away from Cesc will hopefully make it all the more sweeter in the long run when he pulls the strings these next few weeks. Welcome back Francesc.”

Big Dunc “After going over all of the various options, I’ll be reluctantly bringing him in this week but its more out of fear than anything else; the thought of seeing Andy close a 40 point gap in a 2 week period was just too much to bear! There’s very few players in this game capable of racking up a cricket score but Fabregas is definitely one of them, and after watching him single handedly destroy Everton at Goodison last season, notching 22 FPL points in the process, a (fit) Fabregas has been the first name on my team sheet ever since. He went on to score double figures on ten separate occasions, and followed the Everton rout with another 22 pointer at Blackburn and a period of 5 games in a row where he picked up all 3 Bonus Points in every game. Somehow I can’t see Nasri or Walcott getting anywhere near those returns.

A lot of people are dropping Malouda but that looks a bit short sighted to me. When Lampard returns, it is going to be essential to have one of the two big Chelsea midfielders and so it seems silly to sell Malouda and lose 0.5M in value, only to want him back in a few weeks. The Tevez news is irritating, as he is another season keeper for me. It looks like I’ll be benching him and using Berbatov as my Fab-fodder, which means I’ll be stuck with one up front this weekend. Fingers crossed Captain Fabtastic pulls off another 22 pointer this weekend then.”

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  1. eddscape
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Hello lads,

    Took a 4 points hit to come up with this team :

    Krul
    Coleman Elmohamady Alex
    Malouda Fabregas(C) Brunt Nani
    Carroll Drogba Chicharito

    Subs : Knight Ferguson VanDamme

    Question : Elmohamady (Sun) or Knight (FUL) to start? Any thoughts?

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  2. Soop
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    well that's it. I've taken an 8 pont hit. Overall, I'm quite pleased though. Shipped out Petrov, kept Nasri...

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  3. mikess
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Morning, already taken a 4 point hit to get elmo and fab in this week.

    Question is whether it's worth another -4 to do Tevez to Chamakh or will Michah Richards(cleanie and very slim chance of assist) suffice as my only fit sub?

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    1. everything I touch turns to…
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      i wouldnt

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      1. Bazman returns
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Never a fan of 8pt hits.

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  4. everything I touch turns to…
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    hey re posting so really sorry bt need help

    out of these 3 players which 2 should i play?

    etherington, williamson, jara?

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    1. Alan R Statham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      tough. def etherington imo. and prob williamson

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        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        bt dnt see everton conceding.......do u think blackpool will score?

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        1. Alan R Statham
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          yea thats only reason i reckon bench jara. I'd say better chance of cleanie from williamson. And said Ethers cos his points dont rely so much on keeping cleanie

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            • 16 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            cheers mate!

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  5. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    please help me
    current team is
    krul,foster
    cole,mummy,williamson(oshea,shawcross)
    nasri,malouda,dempsey,vdv,nani
    caroll,drogba,davies.k
    1.shawcross+malouda+dempsey->coleman,fabregas,brunt+8pt hit
    Should i do this or not???
    What do you guys recommend

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    1. everything I touch turns to…
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      i would go for it! gambling time is now!

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      1. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        i have miscalculated a little, i would have to do oshea->coleman, and not shawcross.>coleman. should i still go ahead with the move?

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          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          tricky....i wouldnt

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  6. yakayaka
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    williamson

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  7. Evasivo
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Been thinking Now N’Zogbia>Nasri all week but now tempted to do Arteta>Fabs & Berbatov>Hernandez 4pt?

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    1. GeneralDisarray
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Hmm Second Option looks good, but only if Arteta doesn't start!

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      1. Evasivo
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        You're still not helping VPLF!

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        1. GeneralDisarray
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Haha, your options involve so much uncertainty. If Arteta does start I can certainly see him scoring at least 5 points

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          1. Evasivo
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            it's either Arteta or VDV that has to go & if Arteta was fit then VDV would be gone but.....

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 4 months ago

              Keep both your penalty takers and dump Malouda

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              1. Evasivo
                • 15 Years
                15 years, 4 months ago

                no, no and no SD! Can't drop Malouda, no way.

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                1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 4 months ago

                  lol ok i give up...

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                2. champoz
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 4 months ago

                  bloody tempting to drop mal for arteta..

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    2. Oliver Reed
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      id say do the second option, you need fabs in your team...

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  8. SPECIALMOU
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    morning guys! varney, dembele or elmander as my third striker? what do you suggest? obviously i take a 4 point hit to get fabs in my team. thanks!

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    1. Bazman returns
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      People seem to like Elmander but Varney frees up more cash.

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    2. richyd
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      zigic!

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  9. Bazman returns
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    So already done Malouda to Fabs.

    Is it worth 4pt hit to do Ethers/Bale to Adam/Brunt/nzog

    or Tevez to Cham?

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    1. Jack44
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Im keeping Tev, will be a great differential next week.

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  10. Alan R Statham
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Got Fabs last week so none of that hassle (or points hits) for me this week 🙂

    Was thinking of doing
    Mal & Bale > Nasri & Cahill, and then Cahill to Nani next week

    But have just enough to do Mal & Bale > Nani & Cahill

    Which one?

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    1. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't lose the highest scoring midfielder. Bale perhaps you can get rid of

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      1. Alan R Statham
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        yea that was my only concern, i haven't had Nani from the start tho and he's only 4 points behind Malouda but quite a bit cheaper.

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  11. SnoopDogSmokesWeed
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    ARTETA,CAHILL OR A.YOUNG???????????

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    1. Alan R Statham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      cahill

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    2. Bazman returns
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Arteta if he plays will bring in the bonuses Cahill though could bring in the goals. I prefer Arteta long term.

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      1. Alan R Statham
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        arteta def long term...but cahill will def start this week, whereas who knows with arteta

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    3. Jack44
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Cahill

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    4. Folsom
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      A.Young has decent points, could be a good differential. Arteta an injury doubt...

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  12. Screaming Midget
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Simple question...

    Adam or VDV?

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    1. Jack44
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Adam

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  13. Random_Guy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Bench VDV or Brunt???

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    1. Jack44
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      VDV

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  14. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    i have miscalculated a little, i would have to do oshea->coleman, and not shawcross.>coleman. should i still go ahead with the move.

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  15. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    should i start bosingwa or odemwingie. Both are doubts!?!?!!?

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    1. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      odemwingie..

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        +1

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        1. Random_Guy
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Odemwingie.

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    2. Oliver Reed
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      or 3rd option. play n'zogbia!!!

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  16. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    well boyos, i did Tevez to Chamkh and Malouda to Fabs for a 4 pt hit this week.

    Fabs already up
    Chamkh already up
    Tevez already down

    Hopefully this will continue and the new boys will score big.

    Good luck all

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  17. Jak
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    guys, who do you think, dann or bos?
    is bos starting or on the bench?

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  18. Bazman returns
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Looks like many are doing 4pt hit for Cham getting rid of Tevez my decision made.

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  19. BoobyZ
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    1. Adam+Tevez->Fabs+Chamakh 4pt hit
    2. Malouda+Tevez->Fabs+Drogs 4pt hit
    3. Just get Fabs in and keep Tevez since he is slated to be back for the WBA game

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    1. Jack44
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      3. Sit tight. Tev will be a great player to have for next weeks game.

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  20. duncansarmy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Adam or ethers? (to play)

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    1. Katie
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Adam

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    2. BoobyZ
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      May be an easy decision since I hear that Adam hasnt trained all week so unlikely to start IMO

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      1. Katie
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        He'll play.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Why do you say that?

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          1. Katie
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 4 months ago

            see Jack44 below

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    3. MegaSalviO
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      It looks like Adam is big doubt for this week. But still i would put Adam in and let the auto sub kick in if hes not going to play.

      I have another one. DJ Campbell or Oshea?

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      1. Katie
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        If it was Varney would be easy - mmmm flip a coin?

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    4. Jack44
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Adam will play. The guy is the heartbeat of the team and a great opportunity to get 3 points. They will throw him in and hope to take him off when they are a couple of goals up.

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  21. eMDilla
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Jaaks or Foster in goal ?

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    1. Katie
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      I'm going Foster - should have plenty of saves.
      Feisty local derby - may have a pen to save.

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    2. richyd
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      foster

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    3. MegaSalviO
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      I would go with Jussi.

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    4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Jussi

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  22. Snooze ya lose
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Do you think we'll hear if Adam is fit b4 11.30?

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    1. GeneralDisarray
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Nope

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    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Should I do Adam to Brunt?

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      1. Screaming Midget
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        Adam is one of the picks of the week IMO.

        I'm even leaving VDV out for him.

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        1. Snooze ya lose
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 4 months ago

          Cheers mate, solves that one!

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  23. SnoopDogSmokesWeed
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    best striker for 9.6 ??

    got nani and fabregas as manu/arsenal players

    chamakh,hernandez,berbatov,elmander?????or someone else?

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    1. GeneralDisarray
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      I'm taking a risk and going for Hernandez for next 2 weeks, if that helps

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      RVP when fit 😉

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  24. Luke
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Cahill or Walcott?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      I think Wal will start on bench.

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    2. MegaSalviO
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Cahill. I think Wallcot will start from the bench and get 20-30min.

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    3. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Cahill

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  25. Evasivo
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Ollie, are you still drunk? Or just drunk when you did your 5 transfers? 😉

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    1. Oliver Reed
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      today i am hungover, ive got a minging cold and im at work. 3 horrendous combinations.

      i was drunk for most of the hits this week but not all 🙂

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  26. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    will bosingwa deffinetley not start??

    should i start odemwingie or n'zogbia?

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    1. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      same dilemma, i suspect that due to Blackburn's physical nature he may play ivanovic at right back...

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      1. Oliver Reed
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        would you start odem or zogs given he choice WWZ!?!

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  27. BoobyZ
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Out of this lot, who would you get Fabs in for: Nani VDV Adam Nasri Malouda. Currently Adam is on the chopping block

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    1. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Yep Adam obvious choice if you can afford Adam to Fabs?

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  28. Renegade Master
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Seems I am the only FFM driving the Balotelli bandwagon..am I mad ?

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    1. Katie
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      could be a masterstroke 🙂

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      1. Renegade Master
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 4 months ago

        I have to live up to the Renegade title so going against the grain on this one. No one else talking about him yet but I guarantee he gets goals and bonus pts..

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  29. Lew
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    New post.

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  30. BoobyZ
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 4 months ago

    Do you guys reckon Tevez will play against WBA even if fit wit the derby just 3 days later?

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    1. Renegade Master
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 4 months ago

      Depends on how the team do in his absence I suppose. if they win today he may rest him till the derby match

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