Debate
29 October 2010 1544 comments
Big Dunc Big Dunc
Share:

With Cesc’s return at City, the Arsenal playmaker is back on the radar and available for a cut-down price of 11.8 in the Fantasy Premier League game. The question is, do you spend points and conduct major surgery to bring in the mercurial midfielder now, or hold you fire, bank on cheaper alternatives and look to work him in as the Gameweek’s progress?

Mark “While Samir Nasri did a more than capable job of filling the void and provided a major distraction with a stunning performance against City last weekend, for me there was plenty of evidence on the return of Fabregas on Sunday, to suggest that the Gunners skipper will be an essential Fantasy signing this season.

He picked up another two FPL Bonus points, his sixth and seventh of a season that has seen him complete just one period of 90 minutes. Our recent “Minute Men” article for Members outlined just why the Arsenal skipper remains so highly conspicuous when it comes to these added extras and there’s every reason to suspect that Fabregas will go on hoovering up these points with regularity.

Assists will also look after themselves – a huge number of touches and passes in the opponents half and a massive influence at set-plays will surely see to that – double figures in this area looks assured. While Cesc might struggle to keep pace with the likes of Florent Malouda when it comes to goals, again double figures look likely – despite the missed spot-kick at Eastlands. I can personally see him fetching a 10/14 season for goals/assists – a return which would certainly justify his current price tag. That price will likely rise to the 12.5 mark by December, and the first major points haul will likely prove the catalyst for the first jump in ownership. With struggling West Ham at the Emirates this weekend, that first big scoring week may be just days away.

In short then, I’m buying into Fabregas now. I’ve spent four points to seal his capture at his current price with the promise of getting three of those points back with the obligatory Bonus return against the Hammers. That potential and the opportunity to hand Fabregas the armband in a week when Drogba and co face a tricky Ewood encounter and Nani faces Spurs, is more than enough to convince me that the timing is right.”

G-G-Granville “Fabregas look like the essential purchase this week and since he’s owned by a paltry 8.6%, it represents a huge differential in a week where it looks like he is guaranteed points. Judging by the transfers in this week, the majority have chosen Nasri over Fabregas, at a ratio of 5 to 1, understandable considering his recent form and outstanding value. I would be surprised however if he outscored Fabregas for the second week running.

There is always one thing to consider with him. Will his hamstrings continue to hamper his appearances and if so are you happy to be benching him or swapping him in and out?”

Da Beeeez “Count me in for getting Fabregas immediately. This is a serious bargain to be able to get Fabregas at a discount price, and well worth the 4-point hit that I must pay to make it happen. Whether he plays deep or presses forward, Arsenal are creating attacking opportunities (and getting penalties) and he’s always a presence at the bonus point trough. It may be a stretch for Fabregas to match his 15 goals and 15 assists from last season, but he should make a run at 200 fantasy points again before all is said and done. I understand why some people are floating the idea of opting for Samir Nasri plus using the extra cash elsewhere, but it feels like a classic case of chasing last week’s points. If you got Nasri’s points last week, enjoy them (I left him on the bench – doh!). If you missed Nasri’s points last week, curse and swear and then move on. But seriously, are we even having this debate if Nasri doesn’t score against City and Hart doesn’t save Fabregas’ penalty kick? With Lampard struggling to get healthy and to find a role, Gerrard stuck in the midst of Liverpool’s current chaos, and Malouda subject to emerging rotation speculation, Fabregas is an easy selection from the mega-expensive midfielders. All aboard!!!”

El Fozzie “I’m well aware that I’m the new boy and have committed my fair share of rookie mistakes so far this season, so it’s just possible I’m about to commit another howler, but right now, I’m not sure Fabregas is worth it. Other members of the same midfield can be acquired for a fraction of the price, and the money saved can be used to double up on Arsenal’s attacking players (Nasri, Arshavin, Chamakh even Walcott) and take full advantage of their upcoming fixtures.

As Fabregas is still coming back from injury, I’m concerned that he won’t be as sharp in and around the box as he is when fully fit. I also worry that immediately post-injury is the most likely time for big players to pick up another knock or a strain and Wenger could play it safe, preferring to keep him fit for the Champions League game against Shakhtar Donetsk on Wednesday.

I also think there are equally good options available for a far lower price in the form of Nasri and Walcott, both of whom are looking very sharp and in goal-scoring form. With regards to Nasri in particular (who’s my pick), I actually think this could be the season where he comes out from underneath Fab’s shadow to become a major star in his own right, he’s certainly looked the part so far and although he’s not involved in as many passes as Cesc might be, it seems like he’s involved further up the field. Walcott is more hit and miss of course, but when he’s on song his pace and skill make him unplayable and pace alone makes him a natural beneficiary of any off-side trap springing through-balls.

Ultimately then, if Fabregas were in the same bracket as Nasri and Walcott I would probably still prefer him, but given the differential in price (and the fact it’s likely to mean some chicanery in sacrificing points and/or other star players to get him in), I think Nasri is the better option, possibly with Walcott as support if you want to double up.”

Andy “I’ll be brief on this one. Without a shadow of a doubt I want Cesc Fabregas in my team, so much so that I sold Samir Nasri last week. Okay, that didn’t turn out too well in the end, but [when fit] Cesc is the closest I think I could ever come to regarding someone as “essential”. He’s not – no-one is, in my mind – but if I can get him in for fixtures at home to West Ham and Newcastle to hand him the armband he’s well worth chucking into my team, even for a hit. The fact that Nasri’s 14 point haul at Man City means the spotlight is somewhat deflected away from Cesc will hopefully make it all the more sweeter in the long run when he pulls the strings these next few weeks. Welcome back Francesc.”

Big Dunc “After going over all of the various options, I’ll be reluctantly bringing him in this week but its more out of fear than anything else; the thought of seeing Andy close a 40 point gap in a 2 week period was just too much to bear! There’s very few players in this game capable of racking up a cricket score but Fabregas is definitely one of them, and after watching him single handedly destroy Everton at Goodison last season, notching 22 FPL points in the process, a (fit) Fabregas has been the first name on my team sheet ever since. He went on to score double figures on ten separate occasions, and followed the Everton rout with another 22 pointer at Blackburn and a period of 5 games in a row where he picked up all 3 Bonus Points in every game. Somehow I can’t see Nasri or Walcott getting anywhere near those returns.

A lot of people are dropping Malouda but that looks a bit short sighted to me. When Lampard returns, it is going to be essential to have one of the two big Chelsea midfielders and so it seems silly to sell Malouda and lose 0.5M in value, only to want him back in a few weeks. The Tevez news is irritating, as he is another season keeper for me. It looks like I’ll be benching him and using Berbatov as my Fab-fodder, which means I’ll be stuck with one up front this weekend. Fingers crossed Captain Fabtastic pulls off another 22 pointer this weekend then.”

Big Dunc If you're going to get sent off, make sure its for something worthwhile... Follow them on Twitter

  1. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    HELP!!

    I made the school boy error of making early transfers (Carson and Fabregas for Hanhnemann and Gerrard) to avoid the price rises. 4 point hit. Then came the Tevez news, and as I was planning to transfer him out in a few weeks anyway and seeing the news on rooney I transfered him out for Chico. Another 4 points hit. I have albrighton suspended and both Bos and Malouda who are in serious risk of rotation. That would leave me 3 to bench so I will be at risk from last minute injuries, etc. Should I cover that risk by bringing forward next weeks transfer of Albrighton to VDV or Arteta for ANOTHER 4 point hit = 12 pts.

    HELP!!

    Open Controls
  2. Random_Guy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Bench VDV or Brunt?

    Open Controls
    1. yoon3606
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      brunt

      Open Controls
  3. FPL_Guru_OM
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Zigic maybe . he can get enough assist i guess.

    Open Controls
  4. obertan25
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    hey guys, my team right now is
    foster
    elmo samba alex
    fabregas nasri nani nzogbia
    drogba elmander hernandez

    sub: krul VDV williamson konchesky

    Any ideas who i should play or put in my bench?? i am in a dilemma here. or should i just stick to my first 11?

    Open Controls
    1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Good team. If u believe VDV can't do no harm to Man U. Your 11 look strong and I'm to keep them.

      Open Controls
  5. everyday, i'm shufflin…
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Don't have Adam or Brunt in midfield.

    Who should i put to start.. Odemwingie or Varney ?

    Open Controls
  6. qstormheavyrain
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    is adam def out..i have him bosingwa and tevez.

    Open Controls
  7. yoon3606
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Hi, all
    Should i play Krul or Robinson? And elmo or simpson?

    Open Controls
    1. Hapless Hat-Tricks
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Krul & Elmo

      Open Controls
  8. Inferno
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Nasri, Nani, Malouda, VDV, Drogba, Chamakh

    Who should I give the armband to? Torn between Drogba and Chamakh...

    Open Controls
    1. yoon3606
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      nasri

      Open Controls
      1. Admiral Stark
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        +1

        Open Controls
      2. everyday, i'm shufflin…
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        Yes. I hope Nasri may have more time on the pitch than chamakh.

        Open Controls
    2. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Why not Malouda? Malouda!

      Open Controls
    3. Inferno
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Hmmm. Maybe will take a gamble on Nasri then. Hopefully Cesc won't hog all the points. My only fear is that all the ppl ahaed of me in the league will go with Drogba. None of them have Nasri on their team right now though...

      Open Controls
  9. Christina.
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Pick one of Ferguson /p jones / foley to play

    Open Controls
    1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Ferguson for BP.

      Open Controls
      1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        He's the anti-christ of Fantasy football

        Open Controls
        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 3 months ago

          Only if you bench him at home....he is a Bp GOD.

          Open Controls
          1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 3 months ago

            Craig Gardner is off suspension, wouldn't you rather him. Ferguson seems to have a large fan club, a few judges on board

            Open Controls
      2. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        He only seems to get them at home

        Open Controls
  10. izy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Poll: Konchesky / Zat Knight for medium - long term?

    Open Controls
    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      I can't believe that one needs a pole. Konchesky ofc

      Open Controls
      1. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        It doesn't need a pole or a poll 😛

        Open Controls
        1. izy
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 3 months ago

          Well, just thought Bolton had better fixtures near term, though there was an article a while back showing Konch's good positioning + crosses..

          Thanx.

          Open Controls
          1. Get up ya bum
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 3 months ago

            yeah either one is cheap enough to rotate around fixtures but konch should keep way more cs and as you say better attacking potential.

            Open Controls
  11. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Bale to Gerrard ?
    Bale to Nani?
    or Bale to Bale!

    Open Controls
    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Nani

      Open Controls
      1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        thanks! don't know how he'll do vs tottenham though

        Open Controls
    2. Lucky_2010
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      nani or nasri if you don't have lol

      Open Controls
  12. HippY
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Really struggling to pick a team this week

    Hart (Foster)
    Dann Elmo Konchesky Williamson (Samba)
    Bale Nani Fabs(c) Malouda (Ferguson)
    Varney Berbatov (Tevez)

    Samba in for someone? I know it isn't great having a defender from both sides of the teeside derby, but I think there is more chance of that ending 0-0 than Blackburn keeping a clean sheet...and i'm a Rovers fan 🙁

    Maybe ditch a defender and bring in Ferguson?

    Any advice/comment welcome.

    Open Controls
    1. NotoriousDRE
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      i would play Ferguson over Dann

      Open Controls
      1. HippY
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        The Blackburn fan in me wants to bring Samba in and watch him head the winner in a 1-0 victory, am I in dreamland? 😛

        Open Controls
        1. NotoriousDRE
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 3 months ago

          no it could happen....its football. But in fantasy football u try and play the percentages.

          and why all fails play ya gut!

          Open Controls
  13. NotoriousDRE
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    i have Cesc...is Nasri worth a 4pt hit (would be getting rid of N'zog)

    Open Controls
  14. NLB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Is this team strong enough without Tevez?
    Krul
    Konchesky Hughes Elmohamady
    Fabregas (c) Malouda Nani Adam Barton
    Drogba Carroll
    Subs: Foster Jara Shawcross Tevez

    Debating whether or not to drop him for a hit (got him at 10.5 keep in mind)!

    Open Controls
    1. NotoriousDRE
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      good enough

      Open Controls
    2. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Only 3 players different to what I'm putting out this week mate so I hope you do well

      Open Controls
      1. NLB
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers...what have you done with Tevez?

        Open Controls
        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 3 months ago

          It was an easy choice for me as I was planning to sell either him or berbatov and swap bale for fab. Was leaning towards dropping berb and keeping tevez but him getting injured made it an easy choice.

          Open Controls
          1. NLB
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 3 months ago

            I see...I wish I didn't have my Gerrard => Fabregas transfer lined up for weeks
            It would have been nice to NEED to trade out Tevez ha

            Did you go for Chamakh, Chicho, or...?

            Open Controls
  15. Get up ya bum
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Who shall I start peeps, Jara or Shawcross?

    Open Controls
    1. NLB
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Those are my two subs. I have Jara as first sub if that means anything!
      Mind helping me above...should I drop Tevez or bit the bullet

      Open Controls
      1. NLB
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        bite*

        Open Controls
      2. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        I suppose it depends on what your tactic would be if you dropped him but you have fabregas, drogba, malouda and nani so you should be able to afford him missing a game or two.

        Open Controls
  16. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    I need a heavy hitter with tevez out.

    Drogba,Torres, or Berbatov?

    Open Controls
    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Has to be the Drog

      Open Controls
      1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 3 months ago

        to get Drogba in, I have to get Bale and Berbatov out, bring in Stam and perhaps Denilson --to a midfield that already has Fabs and Nasri.

        Open Controls
  17. Random_Guy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Should I bench VDV or Brunt?

    Open Controls
  18. KLOPPTOMANIA
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Play Bent or Elmander today? It's doing my head in, help!!

    Open Controls
    1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Darren Bent!

      Open Controls
    2. BBB
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Bent there is more goals involving NEW v SUN

      Open Controls
    3. Lucky_2010
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      elmander ... i think he'll on target lol

      Open Controls
  19. NLB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    So if Tevez returns Monday, is even he likely to play vs WBA next weekend?

    Open Controls
  20. Hanso Lo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Guys (or Gals)...Ethrington out for Nasri or Malouda out for Fab? My head says Nasri..my greed says Fab..help?

    Open Controls
    1. BBB
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      as I have Nasri I'm sticking with him, well I have Malouda and I'm not keen to swap him for Fab....save one transfers

      Open Controls
  21. BBB
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    color...mmmh nice

    Open Controls
  22. kiru
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Is it worth taking a hit to remove L.Saha of Everton.. Any news about his start ?

    Open Controls
    1. BBB
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      he may well start ahead of Yakubo

      Open Controls
  23. BBB
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    [size=17]Test[/size]

    Open Controls
    1. BBB
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      bloody this new Firefox Addon is useless

      Open Controls
  24. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Stephen Ireland worth a punt?

    Open Controls
    1. BBB
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      not this gw

      Open Controls
  25. asif316uk
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    schwarzer, gilk
    Bos, oshea, salcido, gahori, dann
    Gerrard, fabs, nani, vdv, ferguson
    Carrol, chico, anelka

    Any suggestions or tips for my lame team??

    Open Controls
  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    How's my team looking this week? Correct sub choices?

    Jaask (Foster)
    Alex, Williamson, Jara, (Jones), (Foley)
    Fabs(c), Nasri, Malouda, Nani, (Nolan)
    Drogs, Hernandez, Carroll

    Open Controls
  27. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    I would play nolan over hernandez

    Open Controls
    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      Not a bad idea, although given chico's form and the fact I already have 2 newc players in this week, might be a bit over-toon-loaded if I have 3 in!

      Open Controls
  28. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    My dilema is hagaland home to wigan
    OR elmoundy away to newcastle

    Open Controls
    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 3 months ago

      hangalaand imo

      Open Controls
  29. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    And is kolo toure going to start?

    Open Controls
  30. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 3 months ago

    Hagalkand is one im going with , but am worried , especially as so many have the other guy , big score from him would hurt

    Open Controls