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27 December 2010 2892 comments
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Put up your feet, pour yourself another glass of mulled wine and grab that tin of Quality Street. After all it is christmas, and after all we’ve got another match to take in as we round out gameweek nineteen just as soon as it starts.

The Dugout Discussion closes it’s door for no-one and a festive game between Arsenal and Chelsea are no exception. Just nineteen weeks down and Arsene Wenger finally gets to start his two key players – Cesc Fabregas & Robin Van Persie – together for the first time this season, while the likes of Walcott finally get a start after weeks waiting patiently on the bench. Managerial heavyweight Carlo Ancelotti meanwhile gets to start Frank Lampard for the first time since August also. Team sheets in full are…

Arsenal: Fabianski; Sagna, Koscielny, Djourou, Clichy; Song, Fabregas, Wilshere; Walcott, van Persie, Nasri

Chelsea: Cech; Ferreira, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole; Essien, Mikel, Lampard; Kalou, Drogba, Malouda

Come join the festive banter as we all gorge on treats ahoy together and close out the gameweek in the Dugout Discussion.

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  1. Mortinho
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Who to drop, Drogs or Rooney? Tevez is coming in.

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    1. BKR
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Hey Mortiho, in same dilemma..! Not sure, how good was drogs last day. however, he got 2 home matches. there are enough chances that he will fire in one of them..

      On other hand,

      Tevez has a home game, and he wont perform usually in home matches

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      1. Gregor
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        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Drop Drogs, United's upcoming fixtures look strong and Rooney is coming into form and is on penalties.

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    2. Snooze ya lose
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Drogs

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  2. duncansarmy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    What to do with one transfer? I'm thinking priority is balotelli despite my poor defence. Best suggestion <£8.6m?

    Foster (foster)
    Cole Enrique kalarov (Jones) (stam) 
    Nani Vdv Nasri Etherington (Adam)
    Elmander Balotelli Drogba

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  3. BKR
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    How was Drogs Yesterday???? is it just bad luck, he hasnt scored or he is still struck with fromliaria ??

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    1. BKR
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      TM, its only you there right now to give some reply. There are only questions. 🙂

      Any comments??

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I was going to reply to your questions but the last word in your post told me not to bother. 😛

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Very disappointing - had one chance when things opened up in the first half but in all honesty he really didn't look like scoring.

      Having watched highlights of that West Brom/Bolton game though, I was amazed at how open Bolton were and it could play right to Drogba's strengths.

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  4. EastLeakeTerrier22
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    What is the best transfer to free up money for VDV?

    1) Howard => Begovic

    2) Vidic => Rafael/R. Ferdinand

    3) Etherington => 5.1 mil midfielder

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    1. Lincos
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      1..

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  5. Snooze ya lose
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Scout picks please!

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Can't ever remember them on the morning of the deadline, but you never know with Mark 🙂

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        10.30am is my guess but the constant moaning will probably bring them forward.

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  6. Just One More Thing
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Morning all: three questions for me to ponder over the next 3 hours or so:

    Drogba > Tevez?
    Elmander > Torres?
    Cahill > VDV?

    My solitary brain cell is going to have a hammering. Originally - before Tevez and VDV ran riot - I was doing Elmander > Torres & Hangeland > Kolarov?

    Villa are shite away from home but that City home form is nagging at me...

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  7. Aidy
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Feel asleep during last nights match, awoke to the 3-1 score line, thought happy days. Arshavin didnt play, RVP 1 point, Nasri 4 (c) GUTTED.

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    1. Aidy
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      still half asleep now by the looks of it 🙂

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I see you had a few losing bets.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 17 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2010/12/27/the-captain-poll-gameweek-twenty/comment-page-6/#comment-1212134

          Happy days when you lose a bet?

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          1. Just One More Thing
            • 17 Years
            15 years, 7 months ago

            Ouch!

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          2. Aidy
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 7 months ago

            Thats ok, it was money I had already won 🙂 When I get a decent win I always invest it wisely.

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            1. Aidy
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 7 months ago

              also had £2 on drogba first goal and chelsea 4-0. I'm not going to bring in one chelsea player this transfer window unless they spend some money.

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            2. TorresMagic™
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              • 17 Years
              15 years, 7 months ago

              Obviously the money isn't an issue with you. Most here would bet anything like that. At least you weren't chasing other money. 🙂

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 17 Years
                15 years, 7 months ago

                wouldn't bet*

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                1. Aidy
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 7 months ago

                  It just depends what I bet. I'm working class, but since it was Xmas I did Bolton/MC double for 4/1 which I had 100 on. A lot of times I don't bother, or sometimes I could go up to about £500 depending on how its been going. I generally give it all back though.

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  8. Luke
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    1.Coleman
    2.Barton
    3.Albrighton

    Have I got my sub order right?

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    1. Mak_Gold
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Yes.

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Looks right to me.

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  9. Mak_Gold
    15 years, 7 months ago

    1 free transfer:Elmander->Carroll or Welbeck??With Carroll,I'll just be joining the crowd,which isn't what is required to overcome massive deficits in my mini-league,particularly in this period with games coming thick and fast.Welbeck will provide a solid differential but is he as consistent as Carroll?Also want to do Salcido/Samba->Rafael/Kolarov/Bosingwa for a 4 pt. hit.Which one should I lose and which one should I get?If I get Carroll and trade Samba instead of Salcido,I can only bring Bosingwa in(budget constraints).With Welbeck,there is no problem.I can bring any of the three.Please help.Really need some advice.Team as it currently stands...

    Foster,
    Samba,Jara,D.Collins,
    Nani,Nasri,VdV(C),Cahill,Barton,
    Drog,Tevez.

    Subs: Krul,Coleman,Elmander,Salcido.(with 0.7 in the bank)

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    1. Luke
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Could you do Samba, Salcido & Elmander --> Rafael, Kolarov & Carroll?

      (not all this week)

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      1. Mak_Gold
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Yes,Elmander->Carroll,Samba->Rafael for -4 this week and Salcido->Kolarov in the next two weeks(to avoid taking a hit next week,or maybe Salcido->Bardsley for free next week).

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          keep salcido.. in 2 weeks he got good fixtures and a double.. gettin rid of samba should be your priority.. and carroll is a player u can play every game.. cant say the same bout many players below 7 million.. get kolarov in for samba.. sure starter.. and carroll in for elmander.. that's what i'd do anyway.. and then coleman to konchesky next week

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      I'd say Carroll and Bosingwa (although the latter is rotational with Ferreira). Easier games might mean an opportunity for Bosingwa and Ferreira, who did little to enhance his claims last night.

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      1. Aidy
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Bosingwa should really play more games that what he is.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 17 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          Jamsiep would disagree with you.

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      2. Mak_Gold
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Yes,I was thinking about the same,mate.But do you think Bos will start against Bolton?That will be Elman->Carroll and Salcido->Bos and persisting with that git Samba for one more week and hoping his situation gets better.Or maybe I can also try Salcido->Konchesky?Not feeling good about that one though,I only sold the Greek for Salcido last week to field a 11-man team.

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    3. part-timepostman
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      In the same position mate. chasing the pack in my mini league.

      I'm waiting to see what my cup opponents team was for last gameweek.

      Wellbeck is the best choice in my opinion

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  10. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    save my transfer and play nzogbia? or do samba to konchesky and play konchesky and bench nzogbia.. team is
    Gordon
    Vidic Kolarov Ivanovic
    Nasri Vdv Nani Nzogbia
    Tevez(c) Drogba Carroll
    subs
    Krul Barton Salcido Samba

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    1. Mak_Gold
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Save transfer coz all of ur 3 defenders can keep cleanies this GW.Plz answer my question,dude.Rather lengthy but need some advice.

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Samba to Konchesky and bench N'Zog.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        thanks.. though i'm right back where i started now:)

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        1. Just One More Thing
          • 17 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          Mak makes a good point - I would be reluctant to go 4 defenders anyway - save your transfer.

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  11. WhoopAss
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Any chance of postponed games this gameweek anyone??

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Nope

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Even Wigan vs Arsenal. Dodgy pitch down there.

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        1. GoatGoat
          • 17 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          How did fabs return affect Nasri's game. Nasri still worth having?

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 17 Years
            15 years, 7 months ago

            Fabs is out next game so that isn't an issue atm. He had a good game especially in 1st half.

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            1. GoatGoat
              • 17 Years
              15 years, 7 months ago

              Ah cheers ill hold off on that transfer then. Give Nasri a few more games and see how it goes.

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        2. Just One More Thing
          • 17 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          A farmer's field it is TM but I don't see a problem. They always struggle outside the stadium though if they have even moderate falls of snow etc.

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  12. Mizza
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Should I play 4 in defence - Konchesky, Kolarov, Baines and Rafael with 2 up front (Tevez, Wellbeck)

    OR 3 in defence, possibly bench Kolarov and Tevez, Wellbeck, Carroll in front?

    Any advice folks!

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    1. Back to the Drawing Board
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      probably go with 3 in defence

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      1. Mizza
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Would u bench Kolarov out of those 4? I have hart in goal already so would be doubling up on Man City

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  13. duncansarmy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    A) Balotelli > Carroll
    B) Balotelli > Carroll + PJones > Rafael (4pts)
    C) Balotelli > Berbs + PJones > foley (4pts)

    Foster (foster)
    Cole Enrique kalarov (Jones) (stam) 
    Nani Vdv Nasri Etherington (Adam)
    Elmander Balotelli Drogba

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    1. nedfoo
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      B

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  14. Mr Smith
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Best keeper to bring in for 5m or less, thinking Gordon for the next 5 or 6 games?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Gordon wins hands down.

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      1. Mr Smith
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks TM

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  15. TorresMagic™
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    • 17 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Hi all,

    Team atm

    Foster Krul
    Konchesky Kolarov Rafael Coleman Givet
    Nani Nasri VDV Bale Barton
    Drogba Tevez Elmander

    1 free left, 2.1 in bank

    Some options are

    a) Krul to Gordon
    b) Givet to Bardsley
    c) Bale to someone up to 9 million
    d) leave it & have 2 trades next GW?

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      krul to gordon.. ur defense is good for now apart from him

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      1. Mizza
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I would do Givet to Bardsley personally. Blackburn don't have good fixtures now and Sunderland seem really solid in defence.

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    2. Mr Smith
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      You gave same GK dilemma as me so I will go with option A

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    3. Aidy
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      (b) G TO B.

      (c) Cannot see anyone who stands out for the extra millions.

      (d) I would get rid of drogba now tbh, and that would probably free up some funds for Gerrard/Fab.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks Aidy, I suss it out in a few hours.

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  16. Back to the Drawing Board
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    is Kyrgiakos likely to start or will agger take his place?

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    1. Aidy
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      I would say Kyrgiakos will start, and if anything Agger will get 15-20 minutes. He surely wouldn't put him directly in as hasn't played in ages.

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  17. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    how's the weather like? in india so have no idea about whether matches gonna be cancelled or not

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    1. Anti-Ipswich
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Apparently no games are in doubt. That's only early news though

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      1. Mr Smith
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I'm currently visiting family in the midlands and although it's still mighty cold it's nothing like a couple days ago, don't think there is any danger of games being called off today

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  18. Anti-Ipswich
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Morning all. Here's my starting XI for this week:
    Carson
    Ferdinand Bardsley Kolarov Salcido
    Bale Cesc Nani
    Drogba (c) Piquionne Tevez
    Subs: Krul Gohouri Albrighton Adam

    I've got one free trade and 1.8 in the bank. Should I save it up or should I do Bale->VDV or Piquionne->Wellbeck now? Thanks in advance

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    1. duncansarmy
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Piqi > Carroll?

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      1. Anti-Ipswich
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Doesn't go down with the rest of the trades I plan to do with the wildcard. Means I go over the budget.

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  19. PanTanti
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    im gonna create another team starting with GW20 just for fun, can u help me out and post the team u would love to have at the moment. 🙂

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  20. Snooze ya lose
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Captain choice is a right bugger this week. Armband is with Tevez at the mo, but he generally doesnt do well at home. Is VDV the better option?

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    1. Anti-Ipswich
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      I'm going with Drogba. Tevez was tempting but he never does well at home. Plus I normally don't like the idea of your captain being in the first game of the week. Apparently Bolton were playing a very open game this week and could mean Drogba could tear them apart. VDV might be good though.

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  21. tim
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    need to pick 3 or 4... but who ???

    konchensky shawcross rafael bardsley samba

    CHEERS !

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    1. Mizza
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      konchesky, rafael, bardsley!

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      First three

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    3. Snooze ya lose
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Konch, raf, bards and shawcross if u need a 4th

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      1. tim
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        CHEERS !

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  22. Do not be late, Pedro
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Hi All,

    My current team is

    Robinson
    Elmohamady Hangeland Rafael
    Cahill Nasri Bale Nani
    Drogba Tevez Elmander

    Subs: Myhill Foley Huth Ferguson

    Have two free transfers, both WCs and 0.6 in bank. Any recommendations? Am thinking of
    Bale->VDV
    Drogba->?

    Thanks.

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Bale > VDV and Elmander > Carroll? Coming round to thinking that Drogba may be worth perservering with for 2 gws at least.

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      1. Do not be late, Pedro
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Two home games for Drogba is tempting... I transfered Elmander in for Carroll (looks like a mistake now) so might be chasing the points though it is certainly worth considering. Thanks.

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    2. moss
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      I'd keep Drogba. Hard to ditch anyone with his next two fixtures. Though, you could get Torres. Maybe look to get Elmander out...

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      1. moss
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Youre going to have to get rid of Cahill in the next few days, so make sure you have a replacement lined up, and don't just go Cahill->Bale if you go Bale->VdV :p

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  23. moss
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Robbo
    Rafael Konchesky Kolarov Baines
    Nani VdV Dunn
    Drog (c) Tevez Elmander

    (Foster; Jarvis, Simpson, Nolan)
    Elmander->Welbeck the "obvious" sub in my eyes, any other ideas?

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    1. njfsdkffslkf
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Sell Dunn, Drogba.

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    2. Anti-Ipswich
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Dunn has to be bailed out. How much money do you have?

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      1. moss
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        2m in bank, so 8.2 if I take Dunn out. Was thinking of swapping him for Adam next week, just looked at Elmanders fixtures and almost cried.

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        1. Anti-Ipswich
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          Maybe downgrade Nolan if he's not going to play to Albrighton or Tchoyi. That frees up enough cash for you to do Dunn->VDV and Elmander to Wellbeck or someone more expensive

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          1. moss
            • 17 Years
            15 years, 7 months ago

            Cheers will take a look, though I already have VdV.

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    3. encored
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      not really..not many people have drog now n he might be the man in the the next coupla weeks..u might consider having vdv as ur captain

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  24. PaukkuKO
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    My team looks atm like:

    Gordon

    Kyrgiakos, Bosingwa, Kolarov,

    Nani, Bale, VDV, Nasri, MGP

    Carroll, Tevez (C)

    Bench: Foster, Elmander, Simpson, Foley

    already got VDV in. No free transfers. Still 5.9 in the bank. What u think about my team and what to do next?

    a) Upgrade defence? Maybe rafael in?
    b) Midfield? bale/nasri -> Cesc?
    c) Elmander out for berba/torres?

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    1. PaukkuKO
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      C'mon. Any comments?

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  25. Jinswick
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Ok guys, quick poll - I have one free transfer this week...which is best:

    a) Fabs -> Gerrard
    b) Elmander -> Piquionne
    c) No transfer
    d) Something else (please suggest)

    Thanks!

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    1. encored
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      get welback in for elmander...Fabs-gerrard doesn make much sense as Fab played really well last night..

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  26. Just One More Thing
    • 17 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Gents - pick a letter:

    A - Drogba > Tevez; Elmander > Torres; Cahill > VDV (4 pt hit)?

    B - Elmander > Torres & Hangeland to Kolarov (leave Cahill & Drogba in).

    C - Drogba > Tevez; Elmander > Torres; Hangeland to Kolarov (4 pt hit)(leave Cahill in)?

    Cheers.

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    1. njfsdkffslkf
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      c

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    2. Mr. Greedy
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      B for now.

      Drogba has got a juicy home game and Cahill is playing West Ham. Everton play well away so I would want him this week defo.

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    3. moss
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Looking at the percentages, Drog is most likely player to score in this GW. I like to keep him in that case... I like option B... Could you not do Elma->Torres, Cahill->VDV

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      1. Just One More Thing
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        I could do Elma > Torres & Cahill > Vdv. That's option D 🙂

        Big mistakes last gw - not getting Tevez and VDV and putting in Hangeland for Samba (when I was tempted with Kolarov.

        Thanks lads.

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    4. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Has to be A for me although losing Drogba might hurt.

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      1. Just One More Thing
        • 17 Years
        15 years, 7 months ago

        Nothing like a consensus of opinion 🙂 Back to the drawing board.

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          sorry i meant A 🙂
          Never saw VDV 🙂

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        2. moss
          • 17 Years
          15 years, 7 months ago

          What about Option E, Varney? 😀

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  27. Alonso14
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    So, of all the torres and tevez owners, who to captain!!!?

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      VDV

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    2. Mr. Greedy
      • 17 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      VDV then Torres then Nasri then Tevez imo.

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  28. defTouch85
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Should I make any changes this GW? Either click my link or:

    Foster / Schwarzer

    Vidic / A Cole / Givet / Foley / Simpson

    Nani / Cahill / Dempsey / N'Zogbia / Gamst Pedersen

    Torres / Tevez / Carroll

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    1. defTouch85
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      I have 0.2 in the bank, I have had Cole and Carroll since forever, so I'm averse to transferring them out.

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  29. Jinswick
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    Quick poll

    a) Fabs -> Gerrard
    b) Elmander -> Piquionne
    c) No transfer

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    1. defTouch85
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      C

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    2. SierraDelta
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      c

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  30. Jinswick
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 7 months ago

    best striker out there for next 3 weeks who is 6.3m or less?

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 7 months ago

      Wellbeck?

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