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11 April 2011 1531 comments
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Sir Alex Ferguson’s decision to field a 4-3-3 at home to Fulham came as a shock to many last weekend, given that Wayne Rooney’s suspension looked like offering Dimitar Berbatov the chance to partner Javier Hernandez up front for the league leaders. With the upcoming Champions League Quarter Final second leg against Chelsea undoubtedly in mind, Fergie instead opted to leave Little Pea out altogether, much to the chagrin of the 42,000 Fantasy Managers who drafted the Mexican in on the back of Rooney’s missing gameweek.

The Bulgarian was flanked by Nani and Antonio Valencia, with this match only the third time (GW1, 30 & 32) both wingers have started in the league together this term, a result of Valencia’s injury lay-off. Here’s a look at a game that saw United record a league win for the twelfth time in succession at Old Trafford:

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So how did the wingers fare in a different system? A look at these Average Position maps taken from the GW30 Bolton game (where United played 4-4-2) and the Fulham match highlights not so much the extra width the formation afforded the team last Saturday, but how seldom, in comparison, United really used the flanks in their match against the Trotters.

Against Bolton (left) both Valencia (25) and Nani (17) played too centrally, with Nani’s role, in particular, resembling that of a second striker, given how deep Wayne Rooney (10) played.

Against Fulham (right) the map looks more appropriate for each player’s position. Playing as an inside-out winger on the left means Nani will always have a tendency to drift inside but there’s a far better balance here. Valencia’s positioning also looks far more like that of a conventional right-winger. There’s also a definite similarity between Anderson (8) and Rooney’s role in the Bolton game, but without the congestion in the middle.

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In the Bolton game, both Nani and Valencia made more passes to Wayne Rooney than they did to any other United player, on 14 and 8 occasions respectively. A result of their positioning or of “The Big Man” dropping deep for the ball and pulling rank? Hard to be definitive, really, but it’s interesting that, against Fulham, Valencia Top-Passed (8 times) to both Anderson and John O’Shea, while Nani made the same number of Passes to Patrice Evra (7 times) as he did to Anderson, confirmation of the fact that the pair linked with their full-backs as much as their attack-minded team mates, another example of United finding a better balance.

With more space and perhaps more scope to influence the game, it’s also worth noting that between them, Nani and Valencia made 9 Successful Dribbles against Fulham (five and four, respectively) but made just 3 against Fulham (three and zero).

These Passing Heat Maps taken from the two games illustrate this:

The percentages out wide in the middle third of the pitch are revealing. Against Bolton, United used this area of the left flank for 9% (4 +5) of all passes and the right flank for 12% (7 + 5) of all passes. Saturday saw a big leap, with 13% on the left (7 + 6) and 17% on the right (9 + 8). United made virtually the same number of passes in both games (520 against Bolton, 529 against Fulham) but significantly increased their passing in these areas from 21% to 30%.

No doubt that Fergie will move back to 4-4-2 when it matters most, with Rooney offering more attacking intent than Anderson and Hernandez’s movement far superior to that of the less industrious Berbatov. As an exercise in testing out his options, however, Saturday certainly reminded Fergie there’s plenty of positive alternatives available for those occasions in the season where he has to do without the services of Rooney, for whatever reason that may be.

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  1. dave_the_bear
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    If Tevez is out for season (and could leave in summer).
    Then City chances of getting 4th are pretty screwed.
    Even replacing a player like him for next season will be near impossible.

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  2. Passionated
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    Anyone know how I check the odds for an Andy Carroll hattrick on Bet365, or is that not offered?

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    1. The Bandit
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      8/1 next scorer

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      1. Passionated
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        I saw, but how about just a hattrick at any time, or am I being stupid?

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    2. dave_the_bear
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      Can prob only get odds for next goal scorer.

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      1. Passionated
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        I see; thanks all!

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  3. Zizou
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    so is carroll a potential season run in striker along with rooney and rvp?

    or am i just jumping the gun slightly

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  4. Morrissey1986
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    I never thought I would ever say this but King Kenny has made Kuyt fantasy potential.

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    1. Marknlard
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      He's made such a difference. I doubted it was a good move at the time, but holding my hands up now.

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      1. Attila the Bum
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        +1
        Yep was a right unbeliever when he took over after his Newcastle stint, but he's done well.

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  5. PFOR
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    A Kolarov free-kick perhaps? 🙂

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  6. TommyK
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    El Clasico this weekend! 🙂

    Nice.....

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    1. Boom!!!
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      thanks for posting it twice 😉

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      1. Demí
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        test

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    2. Andy
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      It's El Clasico every weekend now.

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      1. PFOR
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        4 in the space of 18 days, it's like Christmas.

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        1. TommyK
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          You not heard about Spurs' certain 5-0 win at the lane yet Andy? 😉

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          1. PFOR
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            Don't hijack my post when it isn't even for me 😛

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    3. King Eric, in America
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      Be kind enough to post this the second time under a different username 😉

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      1. TommyK
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        Hey King Eric- which 5 places (east of the Appalachians) would you recommend for me to see during a three week holiday in the US (looking at mid august/early september)?

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        1. King Eric, in America
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          Depends on what you'd like to do/see, of course ...

          New York City, if you haven't been before
          Wash. D.C., most powerful bankrupt city in the world 😉
          Miami, if you're young, rich, and enjoy the ladies
          Boston, just 'cuz
          Woodstock, NY, if you dig the art/music scene
          Southern Jersey/LBI, for the beaches

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          1. TommyK
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            cool- obviously gonna do the first two and will probs do New orleans but the others sound tempting..... 😛

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    4. HST
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      It's gonna be siiiiicckkkk!!

      ¡Hala
      Madrid!¡Hala Madrid!Noble y bélico
      adalid caballero del honor¡Hala
      Madrid!¡Hala Madrid!A triunfar en buena lid
      defendiendo tu color¡Hala Madrid!¡Hala
      Madrid!¡Hala Madrid!¡Hala
      Madrid!¡

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  7. Cashnex
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    Rafael -> Luiz
    Bent -> Hoillet
    VdV -> Lampard

    Worth it for an 8 point hit?

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    1. Boom!!!
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      yes imo

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    2. dogtanion
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      I wouldn't sell Bent ...away to West Ham is an amazing fixture.

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    3. Cooper123
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      Don't sell Bent, or bring in Lamps before tomorrow night. Might break both his legs.

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      1. Cashnex
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        Yeah, not bringing anyone in until after the midweek games. Don't really want to sell Bent but Lamps is so damn expensive it's the only way I can make it work without taking a 12 point hit instead, or ditching Nani or RvP instead.

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        1. Sim Simma
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          Holiett may also be out for a while with a hamstring injury

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        2. Cooper123
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          Dare I suggest it... Malouda rather than Lampard?

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  8. Darren Caskey
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    Already thinking towards next GW
    Tevez -> Zamora (Even though he has an empty GW)
    Djourou, Kelly or Coleman -> Luiz

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    1. Sim Simma
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      Hold on to Djourou. He's expected to play against liverpool

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  9. AriseSirGiggsy
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    come adam johnson repay my faith you anaemic son of a gun

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  10. markieffm
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    Its very simple for me this week.

    2 x transfers

    VDV > LampLard
    Tevez > Carroll

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  11. dave_the_bear
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    Time to say goodbye to VDV?
    Kills me getting rid of players like that.

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    1. Cashnex
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      Look at his form, the run of games to come, and the fact that he keeps getting subbed... I should have dropped him weeks ago.

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      1. Big Dunc
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        I wouldn't call home games against West Brom and Blackpool a particularly tough run. Bound to be plenty of goals at home to Arsenal this weekend too...

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    2. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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      I'm keeping him for now, I have a sense of him playing a big game against Arsenal.

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      1. markieffm
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        I keep hearing people say that and I must admit I feel the same but I cant bring myself to go the DGW without Lampard and feel they are gonna get about the same points...

        My 3 up front for the remainder of the season are Odem, RVP and Carroll.. I was waiting for Carroll to score before getting him back and now is my perfect opportunity...

        By the way, is tevez injured?

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        1. dave_the_bear
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          Could be out for season if he's torn his ham.

          Which is what was said on sky.

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    3. Dai Chicken Pie
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      i'm probably getting rid for malouda

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    4. dave_the_bear
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      Usually Id go with the opinion of the person with the highest rank but neither of you have links 😛

      WBA could be a goalfest. Ive time to decide anyway.

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  12. bmb100
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    A little follow up to my previous post...

    Kola conceded 3 and another half left? Potential Kola OG? Mereiles with ANOTHER assist on the bench??!!!

    BOLLOCKS X10

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  13. The Bandit
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    Carroll you pussy! If he hadn't turned away from Harts clearance, could have had a third! 😀

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    1. dave_the_bear
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      hahahahaha!! Best site ever!! 🙂

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      1. Sim Simma
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        http://hastorresscoredforchelsea.com/

        enough said

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        1. dave_the_bear
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          Hopefully that site will be modified tomorrow night 😛

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  14. TheHazard
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    I've got Carroll in my team 8)

    I transferred him in for Tevez last week 8)

    I am incredibly smug about this 8)

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    1. Nailer
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      Do you post on the F365 forum by any chance?!

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      1. TheHazard
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        Same name 🙂

        :suspicious:

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        1. Nailer
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          awooga!

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          1. TheHazard
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            What's your login over there?

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    2. gooner dave
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      Me too. However I'd Like not to talk about my Torres in this gw, probably like you don't want to talk about odem on your bench.

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      1. Spoiler
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        great minds think alike eh? 11.29 torres in

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        1. gooner dave
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          Aye. Stuck with him now though for the dgw, hopefully he can stay fit and do a "Carroll" next week.

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      2. TheHazard
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        😆 no, the less said about Odemwingie the better. In hindsight it's obvious that playing Adam was a poor decision, but in fairness it was pretty obvious at the time to most people.

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    3. Attila the Bum
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      I’ve got Carroll in my team 8)
      I transferred him in for Tevez t'other week 8)
      He's on my bench 😥
      I am incredibly sickened about this 😡

      Good to see you back, not noticed ya lately

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      1. TheHazard
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        I have a job now 8)

        Smug about that, too 8)

        How's things with you? I've got Odemwingie on my bench, so I know how you feel 😆

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        atilla!!

        carroll benched?!

        i thought you were better than that!!

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    4. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      i brought carroll in for tevez a couple of weeks ago

      sometimes i really love this game

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  15. Sim Simma
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    How many touches has Dzeko had ? proper anonymous

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  16. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    so thoughts on meireles' 2 assists? i need one to be taken away or i'll lose my h2h!

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    1. cechmate
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      First should be taken away although the way City are defending corners, he'll have another pretty soon!

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        fingers crossed

        i bloody took meireles out for lampard on friday

        bah!

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    2. Long ago I drew a walrus
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      usually deflections do not count as assists, but BBC have awarded Meireles with the assist for some reason, and on Saturday Nani's first assist was also a deflection so should not have been an assist. However i doubt itll be taken off if BBC have awarded it, they usually agree

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    3. cucumber
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      mail 'em.

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  17. mr messi
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    I'm only in - Carroll 2 goals! Fantastic.

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  18. threeputt
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    3 city players on my bench this week, tev, kol & yaya - wasnt expecting to need more than tevez and had Kolarov as 2nd sub, schoolboy error

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  19. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    loool at Ray Wilkins trying to praise Spearing for that bolley

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      volley*

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  20. Sam (Team Sam)
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    Any chance of Suarez getting no bonus points? I need him to get no more than 2 to win my head to head (now that Tevez is injured)

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    1. cechmate
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      At the moment Carroll, Meireles and Suaraz will be splitting the baps with Suarez getting the 1 I reckon. You need somebody else to score.

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    2. Burton
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      Carroll 3, Kuyt 2 at the moment. A goal is as likely as the last BP for Suarez. Which is to say, fairly.

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      1. cechmate
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        Whoops, forgot Kuyt. He deserves some. Toss up between Meireles or Suarez for the 1.

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    3. Sam (Team Sam)
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      I meant no more than 2 overall, so no bonus points. 1 would leave us tied

      Yeah, fingers crossed Kuyt gets one

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  21. bmb100
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    This has not been a fun evening for fantasy 🙁

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  22. GlasgowGlasgow
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    Robinson, Vidic, Ivanovic, Coleman, Adam, Silva, Young A, Nasri, Nani, Berbatov, Van Persie
    Subs: Gordon, Bardsley, Zigic, Gohouri

    Was thinking
    Gordon > Foster
    Young A > Maluda
    Silva > Ya Ya

    4pt hit. Good shout?

    Ta

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    1. HST
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      Young has a great fixtures and Malouda is a rotation risk.

      I wouldn't be investing in City at all.

      Gordon to Foster sounds solid.

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  23. Sim Simma
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    I reckon Ray Wilkins went on a commentating course over the weekend
    Shocking in the Champions League

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    1. TommyK
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      I think balotelli might be dead.....

      Hooray! 😛

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    1. Johnny Unitas
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      +1 looking like some very good business on a night like tonight

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  24. Johnny Unitas
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    Jesus, watching Kolarov out there I am so glad I shipped him this week, bar his free kick potential he is a total liability

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    1. AP
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      2nd worst bandwagon of the season, and i've ridden them both.

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      1. Back on the horse
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        me too. (assuming Boselli is the first)

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  25. markieffm
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    is tevez injured?

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    1. Burton
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      What 5Live described as a 'Hamstering' injury. I assume it is like dogging, but with smaller equipment.

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    2. Declan
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      hamstring

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  26. Sim Simma
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    Silva on, Milner off

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    1. Podge
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      Ah crap that just stopped Walker coming off the bench with 6 pts damn >.<

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  27. AriseSirGiggsy
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    At £21m Liverpool got Suarez on the cheap

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      and don't forget the 35m for carroll!! bargains

      how many minutes has carroll played compared to torres? 😉

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      1. AriseSirGiggsy
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        bet he sishes he signed for a bigger club now

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      2. Burton
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        Yes, let's hope when the season ends they tot up all the minutes and award stuff on that basis.

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          what??

          i mean the ratio of carrolls minutes to goals versus torres' minutes to (no) goals

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    2. Sim Simma
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      not as cheap as the surgery paid to get messi

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    3. TheHazard
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      They basically sold a striker and bought an attack.

      Looking even better in the light of Torres' shoddy form.

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    4. TommyK
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      Yeah I know- hopefully ferguson doesn't really believe that there's no value in the market!

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      1. AriseSirGiggsy
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        proving SAF wrong isnt he

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  28. Stat virgin
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    Beastly tackle by the legend himself

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    1. AP
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      Leg end.

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