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The Dugout Discussion opens up bright and early on this Bank Holiday Sunday as we look forward to a bumper feast of footballing action.

Birmingham play host to Wolves and Liverpool welcome Newcastle to Anfield first as the mid-day kick-offs see all those skippering Dirk Kuyt and Luis Suarez (yours truly included) hoping for a good start. Then it’s Arsenal’s turn to host Manchester United as Alex Ferguson looks to either get one hand firmly on the Premier League trophy or open up a crunch game with Chelsea next week. Finally, Manchester City play host to bottom of the table West Ham as all those backing David Silva with their captaincy are made to wait.

Full line-ups sourced from the official website on our two early kick-offs follow…

Birmingham XI: Foster; Carr, Johnson, Jiranek, Ridgewell; Larsson, Ferguson, Bowyer, Gardner; Phillips, Jerome

Wolves XI: Hennessey; Mancienne, Stearman, Craddock, Elokobi; Foley, O’Hara, Henry, Jarvis; Fletcher, Ward.

Two changes for the home side see Barry Ferguson and Kevin Phillips bring their many years of experience back to the starting XI in place of Keith Fahey and Aleksander Hleb. A fit again George Elokobi comes straight back in to the side, while Kevin Foley also starts as Wolves also make two changes.

Liverpool XI: Reina; Flanagan, Carragher, Skrtel, Johnson; Lucas, Spearing, Maxi, Meireles; Kuyt, Suarez

Newcastle XI: Krul; Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Jose Enrique; Barton, Tiote, Nolan, Gutierrez; Ameobi, Lovenkrands

Andy Carroll has to make do with a place on the bench versus his old side, so hat-trick hero Maxi Rodriguez retains his place while Dirk Kuyt stays up front. Glen Johnson also returns from injury. Newcastle are unchanged.

Three games on the trot, televised, with little room for a break inbetween. Time to settle in, head into the Dugout Discussion if it takes your fancy, and look forward to six hours of consecutive Premier League action.

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  1. MB10
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Is this worth a 4pt hit for next GW?
    Nani -> Silva
    Adam/Walters -> VDV
    Huth -> Kaboul

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    1. Im Not Marshal Foch
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      wouldn't bother with Kaboul..

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    2. Viper
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      yep I think so!

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    3. A-Team
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      I wouldn't bother with the last one.

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      1. Shipstontrev
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        +1

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        1. MB10
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          Can't afford it if I don't though!

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    4. Acer
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      Hi all, sorry if this has been done to death, but where the f**k! is my Suarez assist for the Kuyt penalty?

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      1. soulkash
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        +1

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      2. Boom!!!
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        read my username!

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        1. Acer
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          God bless you sir, did you get that from the FF people?

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          1. Boom!!!
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            pen assist are usually added later mate...

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  2. DV8R
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    Young -> VDV

    OR

    Lampard -> VDV

    Also, is it worth a 4 point hit for Zamora -> Sturridge?

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
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      Sturridge is a good bet. Home to sunderland who can't defend, have no attack and can't hold up the ball

      then blackpool after, could be worth it

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      1. Art Vandelay
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        I would wait for some news on Sturridge's fitness. I already have him and am concerned that Bolton will not take any risks as he is on loan.

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        1. dribbler
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          that's a good point...it might actually be Chelsea physios calling the shots...Bolton wouldn't want to annoy Chelsea

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  3. applebonkers
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    mancini is sooo negative. home to bottom of the table and he goes 2 holding midfielders and the least attacking attacking mid in the premier league.

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    1. jamsiep
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      Why don't you change your name to 'RoysNephewAdamJohnson - averaging 1.00 points this week'?

      😆

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
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        good thing i didn't buy the guy. not looking as sharp as i hoped today. don't think i'll bother with him, yaya or balo. the sad thing about today is mancini must have been forced into the 4-4-2 against sunderland when they obliterated them due to an injury to barry. i thought he just fancied a go at a struggling team

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      2. Syd.
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        My mini league leader captained him... 😯

        What a result...

        78 point deficit almost halved 🙂

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
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      true, but what if he didn't make the CL - the consequences are unthinkable

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    3. Zod
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      • 16 Years
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      That gravatar picture looks like a bit like the teacher from the Inbetweeners.

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Thank you for sorting out my forwards! 🙂

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    5. Nomar
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      Unlike Arsene Wenger, Mancini understands that points trumps style.

      Get the win and move on. Sound reasoning.

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      1. applebonkers
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        hard to deny that. i just don't see why he didn't go with the same formation he went with when they beat sunderland 5-0 last game

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  4. SuarezSaurusRex
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    next week: young > modric or vdv?

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    1. jamsiep
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      Serious question?

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      1. dribbler
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        I've never liked Modric because he can't shoot but those bonuses are adding up

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  5. Art Vandelay
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    I presume the Foster assist will be removed?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      Nope.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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        😯 I was wrong - sorry!

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    2. MB10
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      yep probably

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    3. dribbler
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      why?

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      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
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        because it was for the wolves goal...

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    4. JWF
      • 16 Years
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      The assist was given for the Wolves penalty so that one should go. Foster did, however, apparently assist the Brum goal, although it sounded dubious to me. I'm bracing myself for it to be taken away.

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      1. dribbler
        • 16 Years
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        thanks...maybe depends how much of a deflection it was?

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      2. Nomar
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        Why? The defender headed it into Larsson's path. You could argue for that being taken away.

        Not that I care anyway, I played Schwarzer.

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      3. JWF
        • 16 Years
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        Came off the defender's head! I'm expecting that assist to be taken away even more now.

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    5. mr messi
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      It's gone!

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  6. DGno9
    • 15 Years
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    kuyt bonus 2

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  7. MB10
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    Adam or Walters out?

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    1. bmb100
      • 15 Years
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      Both, that's what I'm doing.

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    2. Viper
      • 16 Years
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      Walters

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    3. Declan
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      Both imo!

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  8. Bow Locks
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    Any thoughts on the chance that Liverpool or Spurs may want to avoid fifth place and the Europa cup spot that goes with it?

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    1. mvtaylor
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      I want us to avoid Fifth to be honest. Our squad in it's current form cannot take it.

      However given the look of the people coming through the Liverpool Academy and the signings they'll probably make in the summer I guess they might be up for it.

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      1. Bow Locks
        • 16 Years
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        Any chance H.R will throw Blackpool a bone @ 8-1?

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        1. mvtaylor
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          • 15 Years
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          Nah, in the same way SAF won't.

          Play to win I'm afraid. We'll probably draw anyway or something lol, do hope they stay up.

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  9. jamsiep
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    Awful BPs in the City game. Truly awful.

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    1. jamsiep
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      Astonishing really. They've picked the three goalscorers, how original.

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
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        In the Pool game too

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        1. jamsiep
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          Slightly more acceptable, Kuyt and Suarez were always going to get 5 between them. Was Maxi better than Meireles and Lucas? Hell no.

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      2. Shakey
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        they've done the same in the Liverpool game.

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        1. Shakey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          and you'll never guess who got the bonus points in Brum/Wolves

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    2. Shakey
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      lol the three goalscorers

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    3. wozza
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      Oh my days. How did Silva not get at least 1. De Jong only played 45 minutes!

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  10. Caine & Co.
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    Ramsey 3
    Wilshere 2?
    Song 1

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  11. Shakey
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    ramsey 3
    wilshere 2
    song 1

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    1. applebonkers
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      notice rooney spending 90 mins trying to get song sent off? that's the biggest compliment you can give song, man utd recognise his importance.
      szczesny immense, clichy great bouncbackability form his poor bolton performance

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      1. Shakey
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        Koscielny was immense. Scandalous he didn't get bonus.

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        1. jamsiep
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          Didn't score though. 😉

          Agreed he was immense.

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        2. applebonkers
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          agree top game from the guy. arshavin's little cameo was hilarious. he had this little 20m by 20m zone of terror and if anyone entered it he was going to slide them

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          1. Shakey
            • 16 Years
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            Too true. He's been doing that ever since he lost he place in the team.

            He didn't actually play that well though. See how we had a huge chunk of possession in the first half, and a lot less in the send? that's what happens when you do Nasri -> Arshavin.

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        3. AP
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          Big game player: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usmnlv389SY

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      2. AP
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        You haven't got a clue unfortunately watching on tv that Song was fouling Rooney off the ball nearly every single attack.

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
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          lol and rooney was making an embarrassing meal of every one, hence trying to get song sent off. 30-15 partridge to serve

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          1. AP
            • 16 Years
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            Song is extremely dirty. I've known it before, and seeing him in the flesh just proved it, he constantly tugging shirts, clipping heels when the ref is facing away. No wonder he's a yellow card magnet. Rooney certainly wasn't making an embarrassing meal of it, unless you are wearing wengers specs again. Foot fault AB, 30-15 partridge.

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            1. applebonkers
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              • 16 Years
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              🙂 he gets cards for persistent fouling not dirty challenges, the tackle he got a yellow for today shows that (a clean tackle imo). rooney should concentrate on his game, he was at the ref at every stoppage today.

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              1. jamsiep
                • 16 Years
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                There's no 'in my opinion' about it, Song's tackle that earned him a yellow was never a foul in a million years. He clearly got good contact with the ball and so took the ball of Rooney (?).

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                1. applebonkers
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                  was evra or valencia i think. unless wayne's been at coleen's fake tan stash again

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              2. AP
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                He's just a master in the dark arts. I felt for rooney, apart from being called a 'faaat caaaaaant' every 5 mins he was getting no protection from the ref from Song's shenanigans.

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            2. applebonkers
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              • 16 Years
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              oh and the last few rooney efforts to get song a second yellow were appauling, doesn't matter if they're fouls or not, they almost rivaled this effort from wayne daley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF0-8RfxaJI#t=10s

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              1. Gargamel
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                • 16 Years
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                This came up to the right of that video, what a bad dive this is. To win a free kick far back in your own half.. I love Ronaldo.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJU7x7EiXI&feature=related

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                1. jamsiep
                  • 16 Years
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                  Trademark Lampard free kick.

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              2. AP
                • 16 Years
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                Snoozeathon.

                But you just love RVP don't you, he wouldn't do anything like that.

                Woops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usmnlv389SY

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  12. Ninja_Fit_Saints
    • 15 Years
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    Foster assist taken away!!!! Not happy

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    1. Qubit
      • 16 Years
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      Yep, its gone ðŸ™

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    2. JC
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      me either especially as I stupidly went for two brum defenders and missed out on Begovic' 7 points 🙠They all matter at this stage!

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      1. JC
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        did get 2 BP for O'Hara so thats a plus

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    3. applebonkers
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      considering it was for wolves' goal it seems pretty reasonable to me. if you get assists for giving away penalties then ibrahima sonko would cost 18mil in fpl

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
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        😆

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        1. Holy See
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          😀

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  13. Declan
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    62pts nice!

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  14. Mr Smith
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    No baps or silva, very surprised at that

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  15. Syd.
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    WTF...

    De Jong 3 BPs for 45 minutes...

    They are havin a laugh...

    OK he scored but they are talking the piss now

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    1. Nomar
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      Worst decision of the season.

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  16. jamsiep
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    Every single goalscorer today got BPs then. What a joke.

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    1. jamsiep
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      If only Larsson got 2 instead of O'Hara. Because then they'd have given the maximum possible bonus points to the goal scorers.

      Ramsey - 3

      Fletcher - 3
      Larsson - 1

      Suarez - 3
      Kuyt - 2
      Maxi - 1

      De Jong - 3
      Zabaleta - 2
      Ba - 1

      Very poor stuff FPL.

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      1. The Stock
        • 15 Years
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        Someone's off sick today and they've gone to default picking style.

        There's method in the cr*pness

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    2. Qubit
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      I swear they make it up. Just when you think there might be some logic they do this. Silva really should have had some today.

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    3. Syd.
      • 16 Years
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      That must be a 1st for the BAP judges...

      Obviously they didnt watch any of the games and just decided to give them to whoever scored the goals...

      So much for the Fookin OPTA Stats..

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    4. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
      • 16 Years
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      Goal scorers in bonus point shocker...not

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  17. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
    • 14 Years
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    De Jong gets all 3 Bonus. For playing 45 mins and scoring his first goal for City? :\

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  18. denial
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    • 16 Years
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    That's total b*llshit. Silva should've got at least 2.

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  19. Viper
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    De Jong 3bps?? After only playing the first half???

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    1. Bob.
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      It must be a mistake from fpl.

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      1. Viper
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        Hopefully there Silvas bonus 😉

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  20. dribbler
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    What a joke no Silva bonus...I'm lost for words

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      No the BP Judges dont have him this week, obviously!!

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  21. Well you know, Triffic
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    Will silva's assist be taken away?

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    1. applebonkers
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      as long as zabaleta has the goal silva will have the assist

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  22. Boom!!!
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    BONUS POINTS:

    DE JONG 3 😆
    ZABALETA 2
    BA 1

    RAMSEY 3
    WILSHERE 2
    SONG 1

    FLETCHER 3
    O'HARA 2
    LARSSON 1

    CAPTAIN SUAREZ 3 8)
    SUPER KUYT 2
    SEXY MAXI 1

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  23. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
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    My "A" Team 43 (-4)
    My "B" Team 80

    Poooo!

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  24. A-Team
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    I think it's time to get rid of bonus points all together. Completely inconsistent in how they are awarded from one week to the next.

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  25. Boom!!!
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    If meite can get 1 bp yesterday i don't know why people are so surprised about silva/yaya not getting any bp's ...as we all know bp has been a joke this season....

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  26. JWF
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    Wow. I'm a big defender of the BP system but Silva getting nothing is genuinely astonishing.

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    1. The Bandit
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      What system would that be then?

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      1. jamsiep
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        I get to decide them.

        Assou-Ekotto 3
        Koscielny 2
        Holden 1

        8)

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        1. Shakey
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          Joe Cole 3
          Charlie Adam 2
          Adam Johnson 1

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          1. jamsiep
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            Meh.

            I don't mind AJ so much anymore. The ludicrous hype seems to have completely died, and I enjoy watching him fail time and time again. Mind you, the next time he scores and pulls out one of his trademark arrogant celebrations, he'll be right back in the Jamsiep bad books, alonside Scotty P and Joe Messi.

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            1. applebonkers
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              • 16 Years
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              he made a tackle today. the standings are now lucas 218, johnson 1. still 3 games to pull it back

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  27. Be
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    Oi! gimme Fosters assit back! 5 playerr today all for a measly 5 points.. FFS...

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  28. dribbler
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    14 years, 11 months ago

    sent them an email:

    Man City v West Ham...what a joke those bonus points for de jong and nothing for silva...don't even bother insulting me by sending a copy of your rules...it's s*** like this that will stop people playing your game

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    1. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
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      Thought the bonuses were accurate myself. Just opinions

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  29. jamsiep
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    Only person of note in my mini league that had Silva today. Feel absolutely robbed that he only got 5 points today.

    Ah well.... Roll on next week.

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    1. dribbler
      • 16 Years
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      on another day he could have had a big total for that performance

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    2. JWF
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      Roll on indeed. Like a turd down a hill.

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    3. applebonkers
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      had that weird feeling where you have silva but your rival captained him. didn't know if i wanted the jacobsen own goal or not

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  30. JWF
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    And while we're at it where is my second Zamora assist?!

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
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      lulz

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      • 16 Years
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      When ... the moon hits your eye
      Like a big pizza pie - that's Zamora ...

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