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1 May 2011 3456 comments
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The Dugout Discussion opens up bright and early on this Bank Holiday Sunday as we look forward to a bumper feast of footballing action.

Birmingham play host to Wolves and Liverpool welcome Newcastle to Anfield first as the mid-day kick-offs see all those skippering Dirk Kuyt and Luis Suarez (yours truly included) hoping for a good start. Then it’s Arsenal’s turn to host Manchester United as Alex Ferguson looks to either get one hand firmly on the Premier League trophy or open up a crunch game with Chelsea next week. Finally, Manchester City play host to bottom of the table West Ham as all those backing David Silva with their captaincy are made to wait.

Full line-ups sourced from the official website on our two early kick-offs follow…

Birmingham XI: Foster; Carr, Johnson, Jiranek, Ridgewell; Larsson, Ferguson, Bowyer, Gardner; Phillips, Jerome

Wolves XI: Hennessey; Mancienne, Stearman, Craddock, Elokobi; Foley, O’Hara, Henry, Jarvis; Fletcher, Ward.

Two changes for the home side see Barry Ferguson and Kevin Phillips bring their many years of experience back to the starting XI in place of Keith Fahey and Aleksander Hleb. A fit again George Elokobi comes straight back in to the side, while Kevin Foley also starts as Wolves also make two changes.

Liverpool XI: Reina; Flanagan, Carragher, Skrtel, Johnson; Lucas, Spearing, Maxi, Meireles; Kuyt, Suarez

Newcastle XI: Krul; Simpson, Williamson, Coloccini, Jose Enrique; Barton, Tiote, Nolan, Gutierrez; Ameobi, Lovenkrands

Andy Carroll has to make do with a place on the bench versus his old side, so hat-trick hero Maxi Rodriguez retains his place while Dirk Kuyt stays up front. Glen Johnson also returns from injury. Newcastle are unchanged.

Three games on the trot, televised, with little room for a break inbetween. Time to settle in, head into the Dugout Discussion if it takes your fancy, and look forward to six hours of consecutive Premier League action.

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  1. Mr Smith
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    The judges can jolly well gimme some baps retrospectively for Winge's goal yesterday if today is setting the bps standard

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    1. A-Team
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      +1000000000000000000

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  2. IceMan DB
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    The second birmingham goal was definitely a foster assist, the pass was intended for larson and the defender just touched it.. it's exactly like a deflected cross no difference at all! Give the assist back.

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  3. alsybach
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Today I watched ALL the games on the box........I thought RVP played very well a darn site better than Jack Wilshere, Silva for me was the stand out player in the City game and demba Ba was f**ing AWFUL!.........and what is this I hear about a Suarez assist........is that going to happen............!!??????

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      ba was not f*cking awful and suarez has got his assist...

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      1. Tin of Directors
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        +1 million!

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      2. alsybach
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Demba Ba WAS shit.....and thanks for giving my captain an extra assist......you watching this Hollowbollox!!!????

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I agree.

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  4. Hank van Tek
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Al Habsi and his 10 points mock me.

    Damn you, Ben Foster.

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Mignolet 1 to Begovic 7 😥

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      baines mocks me, so many have him

      arteta misses a pen then baines gets the next one 3 baps !please...

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      al habsi 10pts, played hart 2pts
      played RJ, Luiz and vidic all got 2pts and went for them over hughes 6pts
      .. that sort of GW for me

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  5. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    De Jong bonus points, haha, rivals that of Meite, he was on the pitch for 45 minutes!

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  6. Spoiler
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    anyone who watched the game for city.

    is it worth getting silva in for the dbgw?

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    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Yes. He should get more assists.

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      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        hehe, I only bought him for bps..

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    2. Declan
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Tricky games Everton/Spuds. Im getting VDV over Silva!

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    3. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I would get VDV over Silva. And if you already have VDV, i would rather get Bale! I know he hasn't scored big in a while but Blackpool at home is too hard to ignore.

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      1. Declan
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        I think Bale is playing LB now, with BAE out

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      2. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Want nani for blackburn and bpool. I cant afford VDV in for young so going for silva to double up on city mid avec yaya..

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      3. Spoiler
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        already have vdv. no way touching bale that guy is full of injuries at the moment.

        i need to get rid of torres defo but also considering a hit for silva

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  7. Qubit
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Im sorry but rather than silva getting nothing, de jong getting 3 for 45 mins is actually bizarre. Surely cant be right.

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    1. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      De Jong - 3
      Have a word! LOL

      Only downside FPL wise for me was putting Hart in over Chesney.
      Oh well.

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    2. Suarezchomper
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I thought that too........but what can you do

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  8. Well you know, Triffic
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Rival is 55 points ahead now. Should I just call it quits in trying to catch him with outlandish captain selections, and just focus on playing it safe and finishing 2nd :<

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    1. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      If finishing 2nd is the same as finshing 3rd money wise then no, nothing to lose if there is no difference between 2nd and 3rd.

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    2. licscalders
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Neither. Pull my finger instead

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    3. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      i just got 90 down to 45 in three weeks. Dont give up

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    4. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      He who dares wins!

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      1. alsybach
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Rodders!!!

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        1. Tin of Directors
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Fromage frais! 😉

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    5. Well you know, Triffic
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Aight, thanks lads :p I'll die trying.

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  9. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Don't like pulling the trigger so early but I have the exact amount required to do Malouda and Dempsey to Silva and VDV, think I'm gonna have to go for it.

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  10. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    they didnt take away fosters f.ucking assist did they? i saw the replay, it was a nailed on assist

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    1. Boom!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      they gave the assist for the penalty he conceded not for the 2nd goal and it was certainly not a nailed on assist...

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    2. Waldaz
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      It was the fake one for the penalty though.

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        So should get the other?

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        1. Waldaz
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Dunno, I remember the Hart assist vs Wigan so there could be a case.

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    3. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Lol Thought there was something wrong. The first RoysBrother to swear all day and it's the real one!

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  11. CravenA
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    FSB Game stats:
    Zabaleta - 80 pts
    Silva - 62 pts
    Ba - 55 pts

    It's easy really, FPL. You don't have to make it up!

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  12. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Any chance they'll change the bonus points? Silva should have gotten at least 2.

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    1. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      "Any chance they’ll change the bonus points?"

      More chance of having a shi* in Kate Middleton's handbag.

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  13. Morrissey1986
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Please scrap bonus points. If there going to be given like this.

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    1. Tin of Directors
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Agreed.

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  14. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    anyone else think vidic's hand ball was actually genius, albeit cheating genius? he knows rvp is going to get to the header and due to it being about 5 yards out likely score so his only options are haul him down and risk a more obvious penalty and red or do what he did as subtly as possible. be honest did anyone see the handball in normal time? a real dog fighter that guy vidic but pretty good at it.

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Truly terrible post.

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        but he fooled everyone? i think clever, albeit in a shitty way. he knows the risk (penalty and red card) and he went for it. rodallega could learn a lot from vidic in the art of subtly cheating

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    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Nope, I think he's clumsy and has trained too much with other Serbian defenders during the World Cup.

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    3. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      He is a sly fox. Last week someone went for a header and vidic would never have got there in time so vidic headbutted him in the temple after

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    4. RevsFC
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      No offense or anything, but even bringing that up should be discouraged. Biggest reason I like EPL is the high standards. US sports is riddled with cheaters and La Liga is an insult to soccer, vidic should be punished. Yea Arsenal did commit a penalty as well but it wasn't an act of "cheating genius"

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    5. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I didn't see it from where i was sitting and they didn't replay it on the big screen either which they did for every other big decision. The crowd had no idea what RvP was going so mental about.

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      1. Shakey
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Arsene Partridge

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      2. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        i couldn't believe rvp didn't get to it, now i know why. i also couldn't believe walcott's cross, pin-point

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Non of the other arsenal players were complaining, so we all just assumed it was RvP being a little b*tch, as per.

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          1. Shakey
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            Remember when you said he was a flat-track bully? 😆

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            1. AP
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              I remember when you said Arsenal would win a trophy this year 😆

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  15. @FPLStrategist
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Oh wow dreadful dreadful bonus point allocation. Take a bow judges.

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  16. Dave Bauer
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    It doesn't affect me in any way, but I have to say the Silva assist is a joke, very clearly an own goal. But then he really should have 3bps, so I guess two wrongs do make a right.

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    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      It HAS to be a Silva assist as the ball was going in unfortunately, but to me there is no doubt that in reality this is an own goal. It's not a very hard clearance and he completely blasts it into the top netting.

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      1. Dave Bauer
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Totally agree.

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  17. IceMan DB
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    yeah it was definitely foster's assist for the second goal... any chance they'll give it back? Could really do with 3 more points ðŸ™

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  18. Morrissey1986
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Silva was the livewire in the Man City team all day. De Jong plays one half and gets 3 it's a joke.

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    1. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Silva messed up a couple of good scoring opportunities. It's not that big a shock that he didn't get any, everyone just thinks he should have some because everyone has him

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  19. mvtaylor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    So, one of you fancy members care to post an OPTA comparison between Silva and De Jong of key passes, total passes, tackles won etc?

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    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Silva is in the top of every attacking category and De Jong is nowhere.

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    2. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      De Jong:

      Touches: 41, Passes: 36, Dribbles: 0, Key Passes: 1, Through Balls: 0, Duels won: 2, Interceptions: 0, Recoveries: 2

      Silva:

      Touches: 100, Passes: 70, Dribbles: 2, Key Passes: 4, Through Balls: 3, Duels won: 4, Interceptions: 1, Recoveries: 12

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        email this to fpl and demand explanation

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        1. Yossi
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Already have..............

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      2. Fancy Feet
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        top top post I don't have Silva (yet) but I understand why owners would be bemused by the judges

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    3. CravenA
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      see above

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  20. Stat virgin
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Silva (c) 10 points is criminal, he's a FPL Fabregas in the making, painful to think how many points it could have been

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    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      +loads

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Did you see his 1 on 1? that was painful

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      1. Tin of Directors
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        It was laughable, not painful.

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    3. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Fabregas is unlucky not to score more, usually denied by brilliant goal keeping or robbed of an assist by poor finishing. Silva only had himself to blame, reminds me of Hleb.

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  21. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Bonus points must be awarded differently for next season.

    They could be changed to the following

    2 for most sucessful tackles
    2 for most shots
    2 for most passes

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    1. CravenA
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Or they could simply use active game stats from a reputable source (see above).

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    2. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Most shots?! lol

      You should get negative points for having the most (unsuccessful shots).

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        like Frank?

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  22. The Stock
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    One word to sum up those bonus points: Bollocks.

    Good job the Salfordites lost, i'd be incandescent with rage otherwise.

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  23. doncastro
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    How is it an own goal JackBauer? The shot was going in therefore it's a goal for Zabaleta, it doesn't matter how much the ball changes direction.. you are obviously misinformed as to what constitutes an own goal, therefore obvious silva assist.

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    1. Dave Bauer
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      See Gargamel's post above which sums it up very nicely.

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  24. PFOR
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone want to sum up the City game really quick? I didn't bother watching.

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    1. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Great opening 40 minutes then a boring final 50. Many missed chances by city, espesially Silva and Ballotelli.

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    2. The Stock
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Look at the bonus points awarded. Then ignore them to actually know who ran the game.

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    3. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Man City flew out the traps, West Ham looked woeful first 20 mins but slowly got back into it as City went all defensive. Silva played well and always looked capable of scoring or assisting. Balotelli hit the bar with a delightful chip, bit unlucky really............wst ham started to flag a bit and it was comfortable in the end.
      Tips for the double week....
      1. SILVA
      2. KOLAROV

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      1. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        thought kolarov had a stinker myself

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          agreed dad

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  25. Derailed Bandwagon
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Overall, a good gmwk for me, 62 points. That should lift me up to around 240,000. Anyone else pleased?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I am not pleased. 30 pts. 19 on bench. 3rd red arrow in row coming up. No goalscorers or BPs.

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  26. mischty
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Ugh. Horrible week. Maybe this will learn me that sometimes you get there faster by doing nothing. 8 pt hits and defenders...just not worth it.
    Fretted about defensive coverage, and with an eye to the dgw and good fixtures either side I brought Lescott in for Huth. Looked at Kuyt and/or Odemwingie ,but no, instead went for 8 pt hit broke and got Yaya and Silva .
    Totally outscored by my own greed and stupidity. Left 25 pts on the bench (Bego- Jones -Djourou + Huth). Hopefully if I sit tight it will pay off next week.
    *Must learn lesson * Must learn lesson*

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  27. BONZ
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    so.......why did Fabregas miss the game?

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    1. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Thigh injury

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  28. Morrissey1986
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Let's face it these bonus judges properly play fpl too they probably issue the bonus points to suit the needs how they plan the team for the week. Oh crap everyone is getting in Silva we can't give him a bonus.

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    1. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      🙂

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  29. Waldaz
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Ok so, earlier in the season Hart was given an assist for this:

    http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/wigan-0-1-manchester-city-tevez1

    So maybe Foster should get the assist too, am I right?

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      We should bombard them with emails referring them to the Hart assist. Then they'll have no choice but to overturn the decision!

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      1. CravenA
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Where is the email address?

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        1. Boom!!!
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          support@mail.fantasy.premierleague.com.

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          1. CravenA
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            Thanks. Done.

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        2. Shakey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          stevie.wonder@fantasy.premierleague.com

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          1. CravenA
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            Done this too (more likely to get a sensible response)

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        3. Holy See
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          FPL homepage, click on FAQs, scroll to bottom of page, click on 'contact us'. Good luck 😉

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    2. Shakey
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      but Hart shouldn't have been given that assist, and Foster shouldn't be given this one.

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      1. Waldaz
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        I agree, but that's not consistency

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        1. Shakey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          two wrongs don't make a right.

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      ahhh that assist. that was a shocking award and i'm sure had something to do with hart's flavour of the month status after an explosive start to the season. if diame doesn't divert it figeuroa gets it and tevez doesn't score.

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    4. IceMan DB
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Foster should definitely get an assist if they gave hart an assist for that!! so sick of the inconsistency in this game, please email them along with a link to the video!!

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  30. Tuchap - Lurker
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    URGENT ADVICE NEEDED,

    Hi Everyone,

    Not done very well over past few weeks,
    had an 80 point lead cut in half and dont want to keep falling.

    Whats my best plan of action to keep the lead?

    Team linked.

    Advice really really appreciated, Thanks 🙂

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Have a two week break.......then give it up for good!!!!!!

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