[sbu_large_image] The Knee Jerk
7 August 2011 3008 comments
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A brilliant Manchester derby in this afternoon’s Community Shield has set the tone for the upcoming season. Roberto Mancini’s side raced ahead in the first forty-five, heading into the interval two-up thanks to a Joleon Lescott header and a speculative long distance strike from Edin Dzeko that seemed to swerve as it flew past David De Gea. At the interval, City, with such a rock-solid defence, looked nailed-on to pick up the silverware, despite their opponent’s dominance in possession.

After the break, the “noisy neighbours” were soon silenced. Goals from Chris Smalling and Nani -following a brilliant passing team move- levelled matters just short of the hour mark as United’s attacking football proved relentless. With only seconds remaining, Nani sped away from the halfway line and capped a wonderful comeback by rounding Joe Hart to coolly slot home the winner.

In Fantasy terms, the game will no doubt spark a Nani bandwagon. The summer purchase of Ashley Young places question mark over the Portuguese winger’s game time in 2011/12 but there seems little doubt that Nani- last season’s top-scoring FPL- player- looks good for a place in United’s starting XI at West Brom next Sunday.

On the left, Ashley Young also looked the part and it’s worth noting he took his fair share of set-pieces; it was his delivery that led to Smalling grabbing United’s first. Young -like Nani- is priced at 10.0 but with Antonio Valencia not yet match fit, is likely to take his good form to the Hawthorns in gameweek 1.

Despite Javier Hernandez being sidelined with concussion, Sir Alex Ferguson opted for Danny Welbeck as a strike partner for Wayne Rooney up front. His performances in tandem with the Mexican have shown Rooney thrives more with a pacy forward ahead of him, and Dimitar Berbatov was resultantly relegated to the bench. If Fergie continues along this line of thinking, the Bulgarian could well be a peripheral figure in 2011/12.

Chris Smalling started the game at right-back, suggesting he may offer cover in positions other than centre-half next season. Phil Jones was also played at right-back in United’s pre-season win over MLS Allstars, suggesting the likes of Rafael will have plenty competition for starts on the flank in 2011/12.

For City, Joleon Lescott carried on the goalscoring form that saw him score two games in his club’s final three league games last season. At 6.5, he’s 0.5 more than Vincent Kompany but his eye for goal may tempt Fantasy managers, particularly with Kolo Toure still serving a suspension.

Given their record of 18 clean sheets last term, City were surprisingly slack in the second half . Gael Clichy, on as a sub for Aleksander Kolarov, hardly covered himself in glory with an indecisiveness on the halfway line that led to United’s winner.

David Silva was the liveliest of City’s attacking players, always buzzing around and looking to pick up possession. Silva’s set-piece led to City’s opener and with a home game against Swansea the final match of game week 1, the Spaniard – priced at 9.5 in FPL- will surely see plenty Fantasy investment.

With so much uncertainty surrounding the availability of Carlos Tevez and with Sergio Aguero sitting out the match due to blistered feet, Fantasy managers were hoping for an impressive performance from the other City forwards on show. Mario Balotelli was never really in the game and priced at 9.0, would be a huge punt ahead of the game against Brendan Rodgers promoted side.

Edin Dzeko, playing as the lone forward, may have found the net but the goal was perhaps more of an error by David De Gea than a piece of clinical finishing. Dzeko, at 8.5, could see plenty investment if Roberto Mancini is unable to call upon the services of either Tevez or Aguero ahead of the game a week on Monday.

A stat more indicative of the nature of this game is each side’s total shots- United had 21 to City’s 8, a fairer reflection of the state of play, rather than the 3-2 scoreline.

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  1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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    I am not going for these bandwagons I was thinking of RVP and Rooney but their fixtures look shakey I dont care if they are "fixture proof" better value in Zamora and Bent better options for me. I am going to double up on the man city defence Silva captain gamble on malouda rotate with tarabat and sinclair (I conceded defeat on this viewpoint) seems a very clever thing to do.
    So my team is
    Given (Ruddy) (Yawn)
    Cole Kompany Lescott (can be changed after week 2) alcaraz (gamble)(hughes) good first sub to have
    Malouda Tarabat (Sinclair)moses (pre nzog sale so youse copied me there!) and Silva captain Swansea should give him space
    Zamora Bent (Cox for wk 3 on)
    I am sticking with the wait and see approach have 2.0m in bank..

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
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      the only striker to plan a GW3 transfer in is odemwingie

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  2. Hallinan
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    Carrol or Bent?

    rest of the team is

    Given/Foster
    Kompany/Alex/Rafeal/Alcaraz/Simpson
    Nani/Zogbia/Wilshere/Etherington/Ferguson
    Rooney/Zamora...

    Carrol or Bent? any opinions on my team are welcome...I have several friends I must beat this season 🙂

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
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      carroll first week, bent next

      but of course you may want to do other transfers. Its a bit of a toss up actually. Bent can score vs fulham and he's on pens. Carroll has scored the last 2 friendlies and will do well vs sun.

      Carroll can score vs arsenal, then bolton. Bent has two easy fixtures after gw1. 50:50.

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      1. Hallinan
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        pretty much my thoughts I'd like both, but not sure I wanna sacrifice Rooney to get both.

        thanks for the comment

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  3. Salah’s Sonnet
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    Hey everyone,

    posted quite a few teams up here now but have finally come to a stage where i don’t know if i can better my team choice anymore, but have a strong feeling it can be made stronger, so please please please RMT please & comments welcome.

    Given

    Kompany – Rafael – Luiz

    Taarabt – N’Zogbia – Nani – Silva

    Zamora – Rooney – Rodallega

    (Subs: Ruddy, Lucas, Hughes, Simpson)

    Please any improvement comments welcome, Thankyou.

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    1. Joey Millions
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      Is N'Zog back in the line up for the first game?
      I'd switch out Luiz.
      Lookin good tho...

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      1. Hallinan
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        I think Nzog will play, at least im hoping he will

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    2. Hallinan
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      very similar to mine...see post before yours

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      I would say, get rid of Rafael, usual reasons. Downgrade him to a 4.5 def. In my opinion your defence is too strong to be playing 343.

      If you can get another strong striker. Rodallega and Zamora are both good bargains, but thats not what you need I dont think.

      Just my opinion.

      Oh and Lucas rly?

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  4. dogtanion
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    http://puu.sh/45Rn

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    1. applebonkers
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      i'm thinking the same about s.taylor over simpson now as well

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      1. Jairzinho
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        +1 i've brought in steven taylor for simpson in the last few days.

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  5. gooner dave
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    Dj or taarabt? ( currently have both)
    Best defender for 6mill (other than kompany)?
    Cheers in advance.

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  6. Prisoner FC
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    Luiz and Rafael? Not sure

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  7. Real Champion
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    Da Laet or Orr?????

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    1. Jairzinho
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      de laet orr who???

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  8. JJC
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    I think this has already been mentioned, but i largely ignored it when it came up on here. DJ campbell is starting to come on to my radar, between him and Holt who would people pick, and why?

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    1. dogtanion
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      Neither : they both play for shit teams

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      1. JJC
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        The which cheapie do you suggest? Need to fit malouda in to get chelsea coverage and i'm thinking the hit will have to come from up front

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        1. dogtanion
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          I'd go for DJ..he's pacey and will win penalties and score the odd goal.

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          1. JJC
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            Yeah, thats what i thought, Johnson is tempting as well i must say. But rotation is a worry

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          2. Kevtheotter
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            how many points you get for having a pacey player?...always good to have a striker that scores the ODD goal???

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  9. Akers
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    Despite not scoring or assisting today, I still see Rooney as the best United fantasy option. Every other attacking player will rotate more than Rooney.

    If you get Valencia, Nani or Young, you'll just have to accept the possibility of rotation.

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    1. dogtanion
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      +1

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    2. Demí
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      +1

      Rooney was in my team before today's match and i didnt see anything in the match to make me want to swap him out. Especially if RVP's injury forces him out for the opener, i'll stick with Rooney.

      Nani and Young are tricky players in the box, wishful thinking but maybe more chances of a pen for Rooney

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      1. Akers
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        I may well go for a United midfielder, but if that's your only United player and he sits a game out you'll be furious.

        Also, Nani's MOM performace won't have much of a bearing on whether he'll start more than Young (who was also great today) or Valencia. IMO, he was the best player in the league last season and was dropped/rotated as soon Valencia was available.

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        1. denial
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          A voice of reason. Seeing all these teams with Rooney and Nani in them seems crazy to me. I'm going with just Rooney from the start. I think his new barnet has given him a new surge of confidence.

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          1. Jairzinho
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            I've got Rooney and Silva with a spare million to spend... but I may just stick with Silva due to fixtures.

            Surely Nani will start every match until the CL kicks in, at least?

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    3. AP
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      Spot on.

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      1. denial
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        Although I'm still tempted by Anderson...

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  10. Demí
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    Strange how the Community shield today was supposed to answer some questions, but it's done the opposite and posed more.

    Nani?

    Which city striker to go for?

    Lescott or Kompany, when before the majority had Kompany

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      +1. Ripped up my team 4 times this afternoon!

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  11. Caboose
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    Currently have RVP/Rooney/Holt as my frontline. If RVP is ruled out, who do you think would be the best for gw1 and beyond? Bent? I'm not too keen on Carroll tbh.

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    1. Akers
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      Bent.

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      1. Akers
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        Guaranteed goals, and it looks like he'll be one player who'll benefit from the new bonus system.

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        1. Caboose
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          Cheers! Ready to transfer him in, although I would've preferred my original plan of bringing in Bent for Rooney after GW1. Hopefully RVP's injury is not that serious.

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    2. Boom!!!
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      Bent!

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  12. Top 210 Club
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    Guys please rate my team, I need idea's...

    Given / Ruddy, Smalling, Lescott, Kompany, Bramble, Bosingwa, Nani, Toure, N'Zogbia, Ramsey, Sessegnon, Carroll, Gervinho, Holt

    thx <3 🙂

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    1. Caboose
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      Smalling and Bosingwa are rotation risks. Ramsey's a great player but don't expect many points from him. Other than that it looks good. Gervinho could prove to be a great differential.

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      1. Top 210 Club
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        thx Cab! Yeah just seeing Smalling today at wembley, he was awesome and Bos seems to be favoured by AVB, but will watch their situations very carefully!

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  13. cammy95
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    1 Definately

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  14. franvan
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    Do I get Arsenal or Man U cover?

    Given, ruddy
    Cashley, kompany, lescott, simpson, hughes
    Nzogbia, silva, moses, taarabt, sinclair
    Drogba, carroll, holt

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
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      gonna be difficult to cover both.

      quite hard fixtures to start with, and massive rotation risks. though arsenal have a lot midfield injuries so nasri is nailed on.

      nani will play and so will a young. its just too expensive. silva and man city will want to bounce back and they can score well now.

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  15. funny money
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    Silva or Downing?

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
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      both

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    2. franvan
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      Silva for fixtues

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  16. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    is lescott a nailed on starter?

    I am thinking of upgrading kompany for lescott because lescott has more goal threat

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
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      yeah, i joined the bandwagon. It killed me last season seeing baines get all those points - i'm not missing this one.

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  17. 3legs
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    Ivanovic + Kompany

    OR

    Luiz + Lescott

    Same price, whats peoples opinions???

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    1. franvan
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      Id think ivanovic has a better chance than luiz to play. At least at the start.

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    2. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      Neither of the Chelsea defeners are nailed on, might regret not forking out the extra for Cole.

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  18. Sepp Blattered
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    Comment on my team please 🙂 ranked 355,743 last year

    Given, Robinson
    Salgado, Kompany, Simpson, Shawcross, Taylor (swansea)
    Silva, Malouda, N'zogbia, Taarabt, Moses
    Carroll, Rooney, A Johnson

    Any transfers or players i should get rid of?

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    1. Prisoner FC
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      Never really liked Salgado: gamble maybe? Looks good.

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
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      salgado? you got to be joking: blackburn are terrible. their home form is good, but when steve kean became manager they only drew. so their home form can't even be relied upon

      the best 5.0m def is luke young from av but you probably dont want to double up on villa def.
      the rest of the team is ok.

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  19. Prisoner FC
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    Here's mine what do you think?
    Al-Habsi ( Ruddy)
    Enrique-Shawcross-Handgeland ( Orr-DeLeat )
    Silva-VDV-Moses-Sinclair-Downing
    Saurez-Rooney( Sturride after GW 3
    Please respond

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      No Chelsea cover could hurt you, as could not having a City/ Chelsea defender, dont like VDV's fixtures either.

      Id do Vdv > Malouda and Hangeland > Kompany.

      Also, Sturridge probably wont start. Zamoras only a little dearer

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      1. Prisoner FC
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        Thanx for the imput

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  20. newbvick
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    When will a new "The Watchlist" come out?

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  21. Jimjam
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    Having doubts about my team. Confirm them or reassure me? Thanks!

    Given, Al-Habsi
    Ivanovic, Kompany, Bramble, STaylor, Orr
    Malouda, N'Zogbia, Taarabt, O'Hara, Moses
    Rooney (RVP if fit), Carroll (Suarez if fit), Zamora

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    1. Caboose
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      Looks good, I might go with Silva instead of Malouda for GW1, and then transfer Malouda in before GW2 if he is nailed on for starts.

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    2. Jimjam
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      (last year 180k after starting several weeks into the season)

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  22. Fernando Torres
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    RMT Please last year - 16682

    Given Ruddy
    Cole Kompany Hughes Gabiddon Wilkinson
    Silva Lampard Sessegnon Moses Ferguson
    Rooney Carroll A.Johnson

    what do people think

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  23. SupaTune
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Given
    Kompany - Hughes - Enrique(if pool)/O'Shea
    Moses - N'Zgobia - Yaya - Sessegnon - Malouda
    RVP - Rooney

    Should I switch Sessegnon for Tiote then upgrade Yaya to Silva, bench Tiote instead of Holt?

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  24. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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    For those without nani r u now getting him in ?

    What if u already have VDV, malouda, silva, nzog, kuyt, lampard etc etc ??

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      I had malouda and aguero before today. After today, I have Suarez, nani and silva.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        *and upgraded a 6.5mid to get nani

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  25. AP
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    What's the deal with this new bonus system.. in a nut shell?

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    1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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      http://www.premierleague.com/page/EAIndex/0,,12306,00.html

      “Players receive points for positive influences on a winning performance (shots, tackles, clearances, saves etc). Players have points taken away from their score for negative actions such as shots off target and yellow/red cards.”

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        Theres a good article on it on TFPL too.

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      2. applebonkers
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        shots off target could hurt rodallega

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      3. AP
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        Nice summery. What confuses me is why people think players like Kompany won't be good bonus magnets? He's extremely influential!

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        1. Bolivian Seaman
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          depends how the game goes. if its 1-0 he will be close to getting points. if its 4-0, he probably won't get any of just 1. if its 3-2 he won't get any

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        2. applebonkers
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          slow and steady doesn't seem to win the weekly bap race under this system.

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    2. The Holy One
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      Read the excellent article that was posted a couple days ago.

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      1. Bolivian Seaman
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        choose the player who contributes most to a win. flair doesnt count for anything.

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    3. Sasquatch
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      In a word, "goals".

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    4. Akers
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      Goals/assists = Bonus points.*

      What it means, IMO, is that the value of GK's and defenders is lessened, as a clean sheet for them (4 points) doesn't equal a goal for a striker (4 + bonus).

      Like I've just said, I think Bent will be a player who should benefit.

      *we think

      Read Andy's article, it's rather good... http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/08/05/analysing-the-ea-sports-index/

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      1. AP
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        Right, ok. Interesting.

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    5. RmS
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      In a nut shell? It will be as annoyingly sh*t as ever only with the added annoyance of folks believing in some kind of system. Thus pages worth of complaints on here when the nailed on bonus points choice doesn't get them and they give them to Lampard instead.

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    6. Churchill
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      Not quiet in a nut shell. Nonetheless, interesting thoughts.

      http://premierleaguefantasy.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-08-02T00%3A08%3A00%2B01%3A00&max-results=10

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      1. The Laughing Man
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        Awesome artical, thanks

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  26. 3legs
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    Got lost on last page

    Can I get help with opinions on my team please, seem to be going round and round lol

    -Al-Habsi- (Ruddy)
    -Lescott- -Alcaraz- -Luiz- (Simpson, Wilkinson)
    -Nani- -Moses- -Silva(C)- -N’Zogbia- -Malouda-
    -Rooney- -DJ- (Holt)

    0.5 left in bank

    Thanks, much appreciated to all the help

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    1. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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      Weak strikeforce

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  27. PlayPercentage
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    Lampard missed a penalty yesterday.
    Any chance of Drog taking over penalty duties?

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    1. Boom!!!
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      no...

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
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      nope

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    3. applebonkers
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      who knows. but let's start a rumour that benayoun will be on them

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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        😆 I like it.

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      2. Bolivian Seaman
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        its not a rumour its true...

        Benayoun reminds me of Benny from The Mummy

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      3. RmS
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        ha ha, Benayoun you say? this is now undisputable fact and he will be in every RMT tomorrow.

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  28. BobB
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    On today's evidence, is Lescott worth an extra 0.5 over 'Bad' Kompany?

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  29. Fernando Torres
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    RMT Please last year – 16682

    Given Ruddy
    Cole Kompany Hughes Gabiddon Wilkinson
    Silva Lampard Sessegnon Moses Ferguson
    Rooney Carroll A.Johnson

    what do people think

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  30. Demí
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    Anyone know the deal with Alcaraz. Is he just resting after the Copa America and will slot back in come gw 1?

    What was Wigans back 4 today. Thanks in advance

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    1. AA
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      Alcaraz didnt feature , not even on the bench . Caldwell , lopez , figueroa and boyce started
      guess alcaraz wont play the first game. Even im waiting on the news of rodallega . similar situation as alcarez . not yet back after copa america and both him and alcaraz havent featured in a single game this pre-season !

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