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27 August 2011 3390 comments
Mark Mark
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When it comes to Fantasy talent, more often or not, you get what you pay for.

When the pre-season price lists emerged, we spent the weeks before kick-off lamenting the price of established heavy-hitters and harbouring hopes that a string of mid-price midfield talent could fill gaps in our squads. The savvy Fantasy manager could see the potential. There were secret meetings about the promise of Victor Moses, whispered pub conversations about the prospects of Jamie O’Hara.

Consistency comes as a price, however. When we take a punt on mid-price talent, we’re not in a position to rage when the points aren’t delivered. We will rage regardless but, when the mists clear, the reality is that we have to have patience to get the most from these players.

Or do we? With an international break denying us Fantasy action next weekend, there’s now an alarming gap between Gameweeks – a yawning void that can easily prompt the sturdiest of knees to twitch into a full blown jerk; particularly if the Gameweeks have so far failed to deliver.

There will be glares of frustration aimed at an array of players, many of which came into the season with weighty expectations on their shoulders. You can take the aforementioned Moses and O’Hara and add Scott Sinclair, Adel Taarabt, Stephane Sessegnon and, in particular Charles N’Zogbia – currently the third most owned midfielder in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game. Should Chris Brunt and Stewart Downing draw further blanks in their matches this weekend, you can then throw their names into the hat.

A hit-list? A compilation of failing Fantasy talent that’s ripe for the chop? While the international break will tempt wholesale changes from the suffering Fantasy manager, short-term squad surgery has to be controlled. Our mid-price talent should surely be given time to demonstrate their worth.

The signs have been positive enough – Taarabt struck the woodwork twice at Wigan today, Moses had further opportunities and struck the bar at Swansea, Sinclair was also denied by the bar against Sunderland. Should we expect more? Did we really expect such players to deliver on their promise immediately?

The answer to that depends greatly on whether your heavy-hitters have been performing. If you’re without Wayne Rooney, Luis Suarez and David Silva, then their pulling power over the break will be substantial and is likely to prompt change. Come the revolution, the ailing mid-price midfielder could be first to go – downgraded to bench-warming fodder, sacrificed to bring in a big name elsewhere.

Such a decision has to be taken with care. That’s the thing about the consistency of a mid-price midfielder – just as we’re on dodgy ground when we’re berating its failure after three Gameweeks, we’ll only have ourselves to blame when it delivers on its promise out of the blue.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Demí
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    Klasnic becomes the 1st player to score in the first 3 matches of the season, since the premier league began

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      didn't robert fowler o it in 93/94?

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      1. Demí
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        😳

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          am i right??

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          1. Demí
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            "Fowler's first involvement with the Liverpool first team came on 13 January 1993"

            Nope

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            1. Locarno
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              Pretty sure Fowler did it, because Suarez was trying to equal his record tonight.

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              1. Kloppelganger
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                Agreed

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              2. moment
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                First three matches as player, not first matches of season.

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                1. Locarno
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                  Ah. Cheers to the bloke who read the opening post correctly...

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  2. Bad Seed
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    Good article Mark. The voice of reason doesn't get heard too often in these parts.

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      Thats because his midfield cheap options did not fire so he is trying to talk himself into having patience!

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    2. jamsiep
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      The voice of Reeson is always heard here.

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  3. ManofKent
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    Better to take an 8pt hit and hold the WC or play it?

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    1. Low-Life
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      Take the hit.

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    2. Mr Ron Burgundy
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      wc

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  4. unoaime
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    If you've got a half decent team, is it worth chasing price rises?

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  5. Sarri-ball
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    Planning 3 swaps 2 free what do folk think?

    Cole,Torres,Nzogbia out

    Enrique,RVP,Walcott in

    then in few weeks get rid of 1 of RVP,Walcott

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  6. nathanholt75
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    any thoughts on getting in VDV?

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    1. Binty Fresh
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      Yeah. Maybe depending on his fixtures. I think he'll link up well with Adebayour.

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      Easy to abbreviate hard to fit into team

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  7. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    average day for me

    my skipper had a quiet day

    but

    given , bainsy and wesley brown delivered for me

    still 5 players tomorrow for me so could be a good week

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  8. Islandboy
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    Wonder will Suarez get the bonus 3 points? Ridiculous if he doesn't. Was different class.

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      no goals or assists so doubt it mate sadly

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    2. Lewis - Sky Pod
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      No chance at all.

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    3. Eversio88
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      should get one despite skrtels goal

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  9. njfsdkffslkf
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    Made a nice 30 points on most rivals today. All them seem to be in the 18 -22 range.

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      how many have you left tomorrow ?

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
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        Rooney, Simpson

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        1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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          cheers

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    2. AP
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      But how did you enjoy the egg chasing today?

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
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        My stream died 🙁 Hopefully we are getting the dire performances out of the way prior to the proper thing.

        Although team looks over the hill now

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        1. Locarno
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          And you lost David Wallace. May as well not go the Cup now.

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          1. njfsdkffslkf
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            Is he out?

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            1. Locarno
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              Yep.

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            2. Disco Pat
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              Yea he's out - confirmed earlier on either the 6 o'clock sports news or rte2 during the highlights. can't remember which.

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              1. njfsdkffslkf
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                Ugh.

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    3. Cheggers
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      f**k off you c**t

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
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        So you read that Bolton article then?

        Good.

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      2. UnderstandablyDistraught
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        perfect expression of your obvious lack of class

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    4. 7923dos
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      me too!

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    5. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      get a proper link you tit

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
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        Its an excellent video. 😉

        You will thank me if you watch it, funny too.

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  10. ADucksBehind
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    Already had charlie adam transferred in before the game 🙁 Everyones goin to jump on the bandwagon now!

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      no chance

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    2. andy85wsm
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      I'm not

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      1. ADucksBehind
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        Really? Stoke tottenham wolves everton. Stoke are the only team who are half decent defensively!

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          lol only 2 of them played today and they both kept clean sheets

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        2. jamsiep
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          Hmmmm.... Wolves and Everton have only conceded one goal each this season.

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          1. ADucksBehind
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            Neither of you watched the games clearly!

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    3. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      you are simply amazing. a master among amateurs. thank you blessing us with such a pithy articulation of your stature

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  11. Mak_Gold
      14 years, 7 months ago

      A) Bosingwa + 11.4 striker(Bent?) OR B) Jose Enrique + RVP?

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      1. Declan
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        B

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        1. Mak_Gold
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Cheers.

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      2. MB10
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        For F**k Sake, what do I have to do to pick a decent captain.
        3 weeks without getting anything.
        1. 2pts
        2. 1pt
        3. 2pts

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        1. BallyMac
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          Was it by any chance RVP, Torres and Suarez? That's what I did, nightmare. Main rival has picked Silva 3 weeks running and I've been fannying about trying to catch him, so annoying.

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          1. MB10
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            Ha sure was. Will have to get Silva in for next GW.

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      3. Gargamel
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        Ooooh Etoo scored on his debut in Russia! Good on him.

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        1. Declan
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          I guess €5m a year gives you that extra pep in your step!

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          1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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            Thought it was 20m a year ?

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        2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          he should be scoring every 10 minutes for £370k a week after tax

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        3. Smarty Pants
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          He scored from a 1 m distance into the empty goal, the goal was totally created by Zhirkov

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      4. RD
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        Fletcher or Doyle for Wolves fixtures cover???

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      5. tw
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        just 27 points for today with kompany, senderos, dempsey, silva, and aguero left to plya. thankfully I captained bosingwa over suarez last minute otherwise my score would be far worse! if only chelsea had kept the cs i'd have another 12 points (played hilario in goal). screw you norwich!

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        1. Disco Pat
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          Talks Doyle is to join liverpool before wednesday, so careful with transfers before wed!

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      6. FPL Daniel
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        When the BP are gonna be up? I am new to the site so its 1 hour after the last game or? 😀

        Thanks,

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        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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          Correct hour after last game

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        2. Kloppelganger
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          It has changed this season. Monday morning for Sat/Sun games, Tues morning for Mon night games.

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      7. Declan
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        Feels like I should do, Carroll to Suarez now before the price rise, should I?

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        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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          should of done it last week

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        2. Timmy Cahill Rules
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          does kenny not think they can play up front together as he seems to rotate recently

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          1. moment
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            Think he's noticed that Andy is a complete knacker, to be honest.

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        3. Cars and Mané
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          yeah

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      8. Someoneleet
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        What are the chances of Torres price dropping before the next gw? need to transfer him out but would rather wait until after international games if possible.

        Thanks!

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          100%

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        2. Shatner's Bassoon
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          Reasonably high I'd say. If your team has Torres and doesn't have Suarez (like mine) I fear there will be a price to pay for doing the transfer in 12 days time.

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        3. andy85wsm
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          I'd say high.

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      9. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        So Torres. Do we dump him out before the inevitable price drop? Or wait to see the walking wounded from international week?

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        1. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          I'm gonna dump him when he's close to dropping. If it backfires at least it's early enough to make good use of the money we spare!

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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            Well that's tonight then isn't it? Already at 90% i think

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            1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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              He infested my side last week, got rid already.

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              1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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                for whom may i ask

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                1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  Oh I knee jerked and swapped for Aguero, probably another fail!

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            2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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              also, i'll probably want RVP and could there be a worse player to bring in early!?

              Might be as simple as Lampard & Torres > Silva & RVP

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            3. Gargamel
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Oops. That's not good. I'd rather watch tomorrow's games before. Hmm.

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              1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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                Yeah i know. Maybe i'll just take the drop and have the time to think it through.... and see who's fit in a couple of weeks

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        2. FearTheTurtle
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          Already got ride of Torres. Will wildcard if I see too many red flags.

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          1. FearTheTurtle
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            *rid

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      10. Senile Delinquent
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        First time I've taken FFL seriously and worse start.

        Today the 5 who played for me got 13 points

        Three on the bench Given, Brown and Holt got 18

        Grrrreeeeeeaaaaatttttt

        Your can blame me for Suarez, Moses, Jarvis, Cashley and Cahill T for not performing I have the witches curse on anyone I start!!!!!

        For the record I am thinking of changing Cashley for Bos
        inga and Cahill to VDV so select these at your peril!

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      11. andy85wsm
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        0.1m off doing Cahill to Silva and Bent to RVP 🙁

        Hard to persuade myself not to wildcard.

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        1. Demí
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          Silva's going to rise in the week too i think.

          Have you done a rough wildcard team, and if so how many players are different to your original squad

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          1. andy85wsm
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            Team will change a lot if I wildcard.

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            1. andy85wsm
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              Around 9-11 players would change.

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        2. Syd.
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          Ive done Torres to RVP... Still have 1 freebie left looking to get rid of Malouda so that gives me 10.6 to spend

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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            Scary though isn't it. RVP i mean.

            At least the dutch have San Marino.... surely a comfortable night's work. 15-0?

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        3. Iloveeggontoast
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          I was going to swap Bent for RVP but having a look at Villas fixtures I think I'm going to swap Rooney for RVP. Arsenal fixtures too good to ignore.

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      12. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        its good that liverpool are playing far better when suarez is on than when carroll is on

        so hopefully suarez wwill start most matches from now on

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      13. brianyboy 42
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        Had Lamps captain today, on 35 with 5 to play tomorrow and poss bps still to come. Any idea when the leagues will be updated?

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        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 14 Years
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          me too mate, feels oh so good doesn't it lol. 44 points with rooney, brunt, and simpson left to play 🙂

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      14. Bolivian Seaman
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        knee jerk:

        torres+nzog for RVP+ramsey

        should i have got taarabt instead of ramsey, should i have just downgraded cashley to bosingwa. who knows who cares 🙂

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        1. andy85wsm
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          • 15 Years
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          Not sure that's much of a knee jerk to be honest. Nice choices, although not convinced by Ramsey.

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        2. Bubbles
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          Hmmmm, RVP is probably the last guy I'd transfer in right before an international break. You better go and strap some duct tape on his legs, just incase.

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      15. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
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        On the strength of the season so far, there are just 2 teams fighting for the title and they're both United's.

        Man United and United Arab Emirates.

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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          OMG! UAE FTW!

          LOL!

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        2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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          Malouda out this week for you granville and Mata in???

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          1. Granville
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            Probably get Silva back in, easier fixture.

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        3. AP
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          When Chelsea took the OAPs off they looked dangerous, even though norwich were down to 10. Liverpool - unknown until they play Utd, Chelsea or City. Arsenal will need a miracle in the transfer window to be in with a sniff.

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      16. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        demi, how does this mean that fowler didn't score in the first 3 games in the 93/94 season?

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/08/27/the-knee-jerk-patience-strong/comment-page-12/#comment-1937123

        you realise the 93/94 sason started months after your date?

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        1. Demí
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          Did it really 😯

          I assumed it started in August.. so yeah you're right then

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            lol have you been drinking?!

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            1. Demí
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              lol i'm really confused now.

              I did hear though, that no player had scored in the first 3 games of any premier league season till today.

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              1. Disco Pat
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                DD is right Demi, Jeff (sterling) and the boys were talking about it today on Sky sports, and they were saying that suarez was looking to match fowler. well klasnic has, and dezko could also match them tomorrow!

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                1. tw
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                  as could silva

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      17. jamsiep
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        Do leagues update tonight? And when are the bonus points put up?

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        1. jamsiep
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          P.S. I hate the new layout on FPL, and I hate the new bonus points.

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          1. Shakey
            • 16 Years
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            you're far from alone.

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          2. Granville
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            There's so much more to hate, I have a long list of gripes.

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            1. jamsiep
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              Fire away, there are undoubtedly hundreds of things to hate that I haven't noticed yet.

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              1. jamsiep
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                Also, I hate it how you can't chose 'Price rise (week)' etc. in the drop-down menus on the transfer page.

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                1. AP
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                  The fact you have to scroll down to see your team, for starters, is cack.

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        2. Gargamel
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          Bonus points on monday morning. Sucks.

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          1. jamsiep
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            So it's not even tomorrow morning?! And what if there is a Monday night game? Do they put them all up together on Tuesday morning? BLEURRRRRRRGH!

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            1. Gargamel
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              No, then they get the weekend games bonus up on Monday and the Monday games bonus up on Tuesday.

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      18. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        did moses play i sold him last week ?

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        1. andy85wsm
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          For 69 minutes he did.

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          1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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            cheers he had thee easiest 3 opponents and got no goals or assists glad i got rid

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        2. UnderstandablyDistraught
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          It's the "KNEE jerk" KNEE

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      19. AA
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        Can i make 1 transfer now for free ( Tim Cahill) before his price drops . And then use the wildcard later after the international matches to change the whole squad ?
        Or is it like you can only use 1 of the wildcard or free transfer before a GW and not both ?

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        1. Someoneleet
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          Just wildcard. You can change your team any number of times then before the next gw.

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        2. AA
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          Cheers ! Thanks all

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        3. Bubbles
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          You can just do the one transfer now, and WC later, but if you are definitely going to WC just do it now as there'll be lots of price rises and falls over the next two weeks.

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      20. Wounded Prophets
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        5 to play + my captain (silva) and 27pts so far not to shabby at all

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