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27 August 2011 3390 comments
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When it comes to Fantasy talent, more often or not, you get what you pay for.

When the pre-season price lists emerged, we spent the weeks before kick-off lamenting the price of established heavy-hitters and harbouring hopes that a string of mid-price midfield talent could fill gaps in our squads. The savvy Fantasy manager could see the potential. There were secret meetings about the promise of Victor Moses, whispered pub conversations about the prospects of Jamie O’Hara.

Consistency comes as a price, however. When we take a punt on mid-price talent, we’re not in a position to rage when the points aren’t delivered. We will rage regardless but, when the mists clear, the reality is that we have to have patience to get the most from these players.

Or do we? With an international break denying us Fantasy action next weekend, there’s now an alarming gap between Gameweeks – a yawning void that can easily prompt the sturdiest of knees to twitch into a full blown jerk; particularly if the Gameweeks have so far failed to deliver.

There will be glares of frustration aimed at an array of players, many of which came into the season with weighty expectations on their shoulders. You can take the aforementioned Moses and O’Hara and add Scott Sinclair, Adel Taarabt, Stephane Sessegnon and, in particular Charles N’Zogbia – currently the third most owned midfielder in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game. Should Chris Brunt and Stewart Downing draw further blanks in their matches this weekend, you can then throw their names into the hat.

A hit-list? A compilation of failing Fantasy talent that’s ripe for the chop? While the international break will tempt wholesale changes from the suffering Fantasy manager, short-term squad surgery has to be controlled. Our mid-price talent should surely be given time to demonstrate their worth.

The signs have been positive enough – Taarabt struck the woodwork twice at Wigan today, Moses had further opportunities and struck the bar at Swansea, Sinclair was also denied by the bar against Sunderland. Should we expect more? Did we really expect such players to deliver on their promise immediately?

The answer to that depends greatly on whether your heavy-hitters have been performing. If you’re without Wayne Rooney, Luis Suarez and David Silva, then their pulling power over the break will be substantial and is likely to prompt change. Come the revolution, the ailing mid-price midfielder could be first to go – downgraded to bench-warming fodder, sacrificed to bring in a big name elsewhere.

Such a decision has to be taken with care. That’s the thing about the consistency of a mid-price midfielder – just as we’re on dodgy ground when we’re berating its failure after three Gameweeks, we’ll only have ourselves to blame when it delivers on its promise out of the blue.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. andy85wsm
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    Quite annoying that Mata went and scored today, was hoping he would go under the radar this week. Did consider getting him in as a 4 point hit for Cahill which would have paid off but nevermind, going to wildcard this week I think.

    Nice for Bosingwa to score as well, shame Bent did nothing!

    C'mon captain Suarez!

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Sounding like again Sessegnon and Moses could have scored but didn't. Very frustrating!

      Sinclair hit the bar too 🙁

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  2. CFCTom
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    Charlie Adam awful dive.

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  3. The Finnisher
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    Walcott or Mata?

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    1. bob fossil
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      i'd go for walcott short term

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      1. The Finnisher
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        How long you reckon until Mata gets a start?
        Afraid he will rise too much for me to get him in as alot of people will jump on him this week

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        1. bob fossil
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          Couldn't say for sure, he could start against sunderland, I think im going to be going for either him or walcott instead of lamps, will see what happens though

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          1. The Finnisher
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            14 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah, think im gonna go with Walcott, Mata still not nailed on and Arsenal fixtures are too hard to resist.

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        2. MJ6987
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          He can't rise as he's protected

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  4. arfa
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    Adam lols

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  5. Gabriel Agbonlahor
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    suarezzzzzzzz...please dont score....hahahahaha!!!!!!

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  6. arfa
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    Espn at half time to watch a quality football team

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    1. Matt_
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      Bayern?

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      1. arfa
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        Dortmund

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  7. andy85wsm
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    Cahill dropped in price! Not happy about that, would have definitely taken a 4 point hit if I'd known 🙁

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      I'm keeping. The Toffees' next two look very lucrative.

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    2. Leysh
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      How've you done so far Andy?

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      1. Locarno
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        He's had one fluky H2H win...

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        1. andy85wsm
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          haha!

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      2. andy85wsm
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        Only 24 so far this week, Suarez (C), Rooney, Simpson, Brunt and Richards to come. Not going well thus far.

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        1. Leysh
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          Ah right, not as bad as me! 😛 17 with Suarez (C), Rooney, Dzeko, Cleverley, Simpson and Kompany left.

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  8. Matt_
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    Just saw my teams fixtures for GW 4! Selection headaches... 🙁

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    1. Locarno
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      Wow. Kudos on the whole planning-ahead thing...

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      1. arfa
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        🙂

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  9. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
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    are prices dropping during the day or just at midnight?

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  10. Le Bluff
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    Have Enrique and Suarez.. would love a CS and wouldn't even mind Suarez having a quiet game to spoil being Captain for a few hundred thousand FPL owners (I had Lampard (c) today) 🙂

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  11. @ImpressiveTackl
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    Lampard > Silva

    OR

    Lampard > Mata

    Great score from Fattie boom boom today but no room for sentiment in my FPL team. Anyone know if Silva or Mata are in danger of going up tonight?

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    1. Le Bluff
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Why the 'use and abuse' on Lampard?! I know Mata scored today but with Malouda, Sturridge (to return), Anelka and Torres he surely can't be nailed on to start and finish every match, whereas Lampard can!

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      1. megatronaldinho
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        you're payin 12 million for penalties. he just ain't worth that kinda dough no mo.

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    2. moment
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      • 14 Years
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      Unlikely to. Both probably will this week though.

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    3. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Of course Silva, Chelsea's next two games aren't nice at all and Mata is not nailed on yet.

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      1. Frazek
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        14 years, 7 months ago

        Or Nasri perhaps?

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  12. Only one Di Matteo
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    Really think I should wildcard.
    Given Ruddy
    Baines Cashley Kompany Enrique Simpson
    Silva Nzog Sessegnon Sinclair Moses
    Torres Suarez Holt
    0 in bank and only one free transfer If I WCed I could build team value and get rid of some deadwood. Thoughts?

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    1. moment
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Goalies fine, though Ruddy will be banned for a game.
      Defense is OK, although if Baines not on pens he's overpriced.
      Midfield was a smart choice 3 weeks ago, and probably still is now, just hasn't been lucky.
      Forward - Probably get rid of Torres, though the Drog injury means he's more likely to start...

      I'd keep it; most of the price rises to date you've got in your team valuewise...

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  13. nathanholt75
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Whats peoples opinion on Baines, if he is not taking pens, is he worth 8m?

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    1. SupaTune
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      no

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    2. Johnny Unitas
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I don't think so, but I have little patience for the expensive defenders, itching to get rid of Cole for Bosingwa now that he looks nailed on. Vidic two seasons ago when he was scoring and United were keeping clean sheets was worth all the 8m, Everton are just not solid enough at the back for me.

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    3. MrJefferson
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      i mite ditch him...im new to this carro on..so if i play my wild card and keep an eye on total fly and bring in the risers then pick my team before nxt deadline i have a healthy increase in squad value..yes?

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      1. MrJefferson
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        *carry

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        1. MrJefferson
          • 14 Years
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          *fpl

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      2. moment
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        • 14 Years
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        Correct, but they need to rise twice for you to make 0.1 as you any get half the profits on a player.

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    4. Le Bluff
      • 14 Years
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      No way! Sure he's good going forward, but Everton don't keep enough Cs's to warrant an 8m pricetag.

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    5. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
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      prob just for the next few weeks as he is on some free kicks and will get the odd assist n cleanie too

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    6. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Not for me now.
      It was the end of last season that he took a load of penalties when Arteta was injured, and that's where his points tally got the huge boost.
      Very few cleanies, he can assist for sure, but goals, maybe 1 or 2 from free kicks tops.

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      1. Top 210 Club
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        14 years, 7 months ago

        Moyes is a bastard! Baines should've taken that penalty!

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        1. andy85wsm
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          14 years, 7 months ago

          As Arteta is their club pen taker it wasn't that much of a shock

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        2. Disco Pat
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          Anyone think Moyes had Arteta in his fantasy football team, and not Baines?

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  14. Only one Di Matteo
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Really think I should wildcard.
    Given Ruddy
    Baines Cashley Kompany Enrique Simpson
    Silva Nzog Sessegnon Sinclair Moses
    Torres Suarez Holt
    0 in bank and only one free transfer If I WCed I could build team value and get rid of some deadwood. Thoughts

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  15. leycrjb
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    Building a team of price risers for the next two weeks then making my real team a bit before the deadline. Currently have gone for:

    Given, Vorm
    Ward, Bosingwa, Richards, Simpson, Enrique
    Henderson, Anderson, Silva, Mata, Ramsey
    Di Santo, Suarez, Rooney

    I was going to use the WC this week anyway, so this seems the most sensible way of going about it. Anyone think of any players I've missed who could go up?

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    1. moment
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Fat Frank.

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    2. NilSatisNisiOptimum78
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      Di Santo?
      Have you seen his goal scoring record before today dude?

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  16. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Rooney, Suarez, Mata, Walcott, Silva, Richards, Bosingwa, Enrique

    Liking the wildcard option.

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    1. AP
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      That's almost my team 8)

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Nice work on Mata this week! Bet you were hating it when he was on the bench then loving it when he scored!

        I didn't have the cajones to 4 point so early in the season to get him.

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  17. Baines on Toast...
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    • 15 Years
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    Worth WCing to get Suarez, Silva and Walcott in for Bent, Yaya and Sinclair? And lose Baines for Senderos.

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
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      Definately

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    2. Disco Pat
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      Not sure, it's anywhere between an 8 to 12 point hit, for those four transfers. I'd keep a wildcard for when you need to make 7-8, or more, transfers.

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  18. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Brown still on 6 points. Not updated on FPL and my mate has him hahahah Wait for him to find out 😀

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Why what happened to him?

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    2. Johnny Unitas
      • 16 Years
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      What happened Brown? Subbed at 59?

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      1. bob fossil
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        looked on bbc sport, says nothing about him coming off before the 60

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    3. PFOR
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      Find out what? He played 90.

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    4. Hektik
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      what u talking about ?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
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        My bad I thought he went out after 55. Obviously he continued. Sorry

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  19. som3awy
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    Come on Kenny! Sub Suarez now 😉

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  20. Johnny Unitas
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    What is the deal with Surman? I thought he was a starter for Norwich?

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  21. Mak_Gold
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Current team: Given-Ruddy / Baines-Lescott-Alex-Simpson-De Laet / Toure-Moses-Sess-Sinclair-Surman / Suarez-Rooney-Failnando...(2 free transfers,0 in bank).....Surely Alex->J.Enrique,Failnando->RVP are no-brainers?Exact cash for those two trades.My only concern is that Bosingwa and Silva's prices will have sky-rocketed in the next few weeks and I will not be able to afford them by GW 7/8.So what should I do?Thanks in advance.

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    • The Laughing Man
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      Who is the rotation risk for Man U once Fletcher is healthy Anderson or Cleverly?

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      1. andy85wsm
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        Either. More likely Cleverly.

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      2. Ravenkbs
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        Cleverly imo

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      3. The Laughing Man
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        Ok Cheers

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    • Ravenkbs
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      Why was Kelly subbed so early?

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      1. Kloppelganger
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Injured- the LIV RB curse

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      2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
        • 16 Years
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        he shat himself

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      3. Frazek
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        Hamstring strain, so BBC reports.

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    • @ImpressiveTackl
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      14 years, 7 months ago

      With his goal today against Chelsea and a good home game up next, is it possible Holt can reverse his imminent drop in price?

      Tune in next week to find out...

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      1. Kloppelganger
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        I certainly hope so, benched him this week and loathe to transfer out now he's off the mark.

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    • andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      The wildcard is just like money. It burns a whole in my imaginary FPL pocket.

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    • The Mighty One
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      That soft clunking sound that you just heard was Torres unceremoniously leaving my team for Aguero. I am breaking a rule of bringing in Aguero before he plays, but I don't care, I have to get Torres off my freaking team immediately. I cannot believe that I feel for that one, again.

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      1. Back to the Drawing Board
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        14 years, 7 months ago

        how bad was he?

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    • Shakey
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      This is the first time I've actually seen Liverpool play well this season, and, surprise surprise, it's the first time Andy Carroll hasn't started.

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      1. Gargamel
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        This

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      2. PFOR
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        14 years, 7 months ago

        They're doing well yeah (better than Chelsea were today), but they'll be killed if they're that open against the top sides.

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        1. CFCTom
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          We won 3-1, they're winning 1-0.

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          1. Shakey
            • 16 Years
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            1. it's half time
            2. Bolton are considerably better than Norwich
            3. scoreline doesn't always reflect how well a side is playing.

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            1. Granville
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              • 16 Years
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              4. He's trying to WUM you

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              1. Shakey
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                5. it worked.

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                1. CFCTom
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                  6. Zing!

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      3. AP
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        Disagree.

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        1. Shakey
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          you don't think they're playing well?

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          1. AP
            • 16 Years
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            I don't think Carroll makes them play badly.

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            1. Shakey
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              He attracts 50-yard hoof-balls like shit attracts flies.

              that's not his fault per se, but he's not playing particularly well either.

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              1. Granville
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                • 16 Years
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                Carroll actually did pretty well midweek, cracking goal.

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                1. Fancy Feet
                  • 15 Years
                  14 years, 7 months ago

                  Nice goal but the moment he came on Adam stop passing the ball around and started to try to find Carroll with long balls

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                2. Shakey
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                  14 years, 7 months ago

                  Against Exeter though.

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              2. Fancy Feet
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                This

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              3. AP
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 7 months ago

                It's that arsenalitis i was talking about coming back Faulk. Carroll could easily replace Kuyt in this 433.

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                1. Shakey
                  • 16 Years
                  14 years, 7 months ago

                  He could, and they'd stop scoring.

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        2. Kloppelganger
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Also disagree. As the half wore on bolton have been applying more and more pressure on def and Lucas to rush the ball out. Won't be surprised to see Carroll on soon even as Bolton push for an equaliser.

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      4. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Walcott. nailed on now? Surely he will start most games on the right and Asharvin/Gervinho will rotate left? *

        *transfer window transfers pending

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        1. Shakey
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          oh yeah, he'll start every game he can if we don't buy any other wide players.

          Apparently CY Park can play wide too, but I expect him to be RvP's back-up for the most part.

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        2. leycrjb
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Arshavin should never be allowed on to the pitch. So yes Theo should be pretty nailed on - especially with his goal mid week.

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      5. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Remember I was ridiculed and accused of being 'bitter' etc when I said this six months ago.

        I see Partridge is still being stubborn. Some people, eh......

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        1. Granville
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Jamsiep, let's not forget your ridiculing of Liverpool for selling Torres to you.

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          1. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            I wasn't (at least I don't think) ridiculing Liverpool for the act of selling Torres to us. I was ridiculing Liverpool as a club, when people were questioning why Torres would want to move.

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    • Podge
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Torres deserves a good whipping.
      Discuss.

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      1. LawnDart
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Those who captained him deserve the spanking...

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    • Gargamel
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Gutted to not have anything on captain Suarez from that half.

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      1. cechmate
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Me too. He's playing well though.

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      2. Crakers
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        i feel your pain! u have suarez as capt... he will score in the first 10 mins of 2nd half!

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      3. andy85wsm
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        14 years, 7 months ago

        Me too 🙁

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    • PFOR
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      I sense Suarez burnout soon. He does so much running in a game, he better rest up for the international break. Do Uruguay have a match coming up?

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        He's flying back after this game to play the Ukraine.

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        1. PFOR
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Damn.

          His fixtures are telling me to get RVP instead, but his ownership and form are saying no.

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      2. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        He puts in a serious shift for a player of his ability with the ball.

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        1. Frazek
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          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          True, but so does (did) Tevez, and he never looked burned out. Play 'em 'til they break, I say.

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      3. Kloppelganger
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Think only 1 game but could be mistaken.

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