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27 August 2011 3390 comments
Mark Mark
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When it comes to Fantasy talent, more often or not, you get what you pay for.

When the pre-season price lists emerged, we spent the weeks before kick-off lamenting the price of established heavy-hitters and harbouring hopes that a string of mid-price midfield talent could fill gaps in our squads. The savvy Fantasy manager could see the potential. There were secret meetings about the promise of Victor Moses, whispered pub conversations about the prospects of Jamie O’Hara.

Consistency comes as a price, however. When we take a punt on mid-price talent, we’re not in a position to rage when the points aren’t delivered. We will rage regardless but, when the mists clear, the reality is that we have to have patience to get the most from these players.

Or do we? With an international break denying us Fantasy action next weekend, there’s now an alarming gap between Gameweeks – a yawning void that can easily prompt the sturdiest of knees to twitch into a full blown jerk; particularly if the Gameweeks have so far failed to deliver.

There will be glares of frustration aimed at an array of players, many of which came into the season with weighty expectations on their shoulders. You can take the aforementioned Moses and O’Hara and add Scott Sinclair, Adel Taarabt, Stephane Sessegnon and, in particular Charles N’Zogbia – currently the third most owned midfielder in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game. Should Chris Brunt and Stewart Downing draw further blanks in their matches this weekend, you can then throw their names into the hat.

A hit-list? A compilation of failing Fantasy talent that’s ripe for the chop? While the international break will tempt wholesale changes from the suffering Fantasy manager, short-term squad surgery has to be controlled. Our mid-price talent should surely be given time to demonstrate their worth.

The signs have been positive enough – Taarabt struck the woodwork twice at Wigan today, Moses had further opportunities and struck the bar at Swansea, Sinclair was also denied by the bar against Sunderland. Should we expect more? Did we really expect such players to deliver on their promise immediately?

The answer to that depends greatly on whether your heavy-hitters have been performing. If you’re without Wayne Rooney, Luis Suarez and David Silva, then their pulling power over the break will be substantial and is likely to prompt change. Come the revolution, the ailing mid-price midfielder could be first to go – downgraded to bench-warming fodder, sacrificed to bring in a big name elsewhere.

Such a decision has to be taken with care. That’s the thing about the consistency of a mid-price midfielder – just as we’re on dodgy ground when we’re berating its failure after three Gameweeks, we’ll only have ourselves to blame when it delivers on its promise out of the blue.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. NobodyF*cksWithTheJesus
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Where does everyone put their big money players, the ones that should be real consistent big hitters? currently have 2 in mid and 2 up front, thinking I might boost front line though and make it 1+3. What's the most popular set up?

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    1. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I'm 2 mid, 3 up front

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      1. moment
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Ditto - Silva, Lamps, Suarez, Rooney, Bent. Everything else cheapo. You need 2 reliable mids as they score more in general over the season. Oh for the good old days of Ronaldo, Lampard, Fabregas...

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        1. NobodyF*cksWithTheJesus
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah those were the guys! Seems harder to fit so many in these days, FPL know what they're doing with prices I guess. I worry a bit about having too many cheapo players starting though

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    2. Matt_
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      What do you consider bug hitter, what price??

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        1. Matt_
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Very good. 😀

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      1. NobodyF*cksWithTheJesus
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        9 or 10 up maybe?

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Well i got 8.5 10 and 9.6 up front with 10, 9.6 and 9 in the midfield
          I consider Dzeko a big hitter for the time being 🙂

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          1. NobodyF*cksWithTheJesus
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            I would probably count Dzeko too. That seems good, but don't you want Rooney or RVP? I gotta say, I want both!!

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            1. The Finnisher
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              I got 1.0 in the bank, am tempted to take a 4 point hit to get 1 in, but i think im better off being patient

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        2. Matt_
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          In that case I have 2 mid, 2 upfront.

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  2. Red-United
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Hi lads I'm on my phone and for some reason I can't sign in to FPL.

    I've heard Lamps had a good game and I had him captain so can someone let me know how he did? Hattrick by any chance? haha thanks!

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    1. SierraDelta
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      as capt 20pts

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Without bonuses, and he should get 3.

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        1. Red-United
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Cheers! Not bad.

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    2. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Assist, pen = 20 pts as captain, with another 4 or 6 BPs to come.

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  3. ...---...
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Hey,

    Just in. I see Fernardo Torres STILL can't score in a barrel load of fannies!!

    Surely there's no more believers out there now?????????

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Just sold him, ahead of his imminent price fall.

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    2. Dai Chicken Pie
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Last one out turn off the lights

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    3. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I think he'll be the first player in FPL history to fall by £1million overnight.

      Ownership on Monday: 0.1 per cent. And that's only because those managers have given up or died.

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      1. poopinda
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        lolacaust

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        1. CFCTom
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          ...?

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  4. SierraDelta
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    suarez, rooney , young, adam, silva

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    1. Phuxache
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Are all premier league footballers?

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  5. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Is it really important to build up squad value early on or is it more important to put in who you think will score more points?

    I have Baines and might put in Bosingwa but only for his price rise so i don’t have to pay may in a few weeks. I was going to get out Baines after Gameweek 6 and put in Bosingwa in then but Bosingwa will obviously rise a lot before then. I think Baines will score more points before Gameweek 6 but is it worth putting in Bosingwa in now to save money?

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    1. Disco Pat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Dynamic, I'm thinking of moving baines out tonight for bosingwa, and then move cole for enrique in another week or two, to free up cash

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    2. ZeSuPeR
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I'm in same dilemma with Baines as well.. personally for me I think it's more important to rejig my strikers and then come back to Baines in 2 weeks when evertons fixtures go bad.

      Early points will matter more than 0.1 on Bosingwa in my opinion.

      Freeing up Baines will give us loads of money anyway!

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  6. Crakers
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    i sense alot of people not wanting suarez to score!!!! hope he scores 2 quick ones then comes off!

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    1. Perthite
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      ... after 60 minutes are up.

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  7. Lubic87
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Looks like i'll be having yet another week of big points on the bench. I just can't get it right this season haha.

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    1. Kloppelganger
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Same, a goal and 2 clean sheets sitting on mine. Although Ruddy is there too so that's not so bad.

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  8. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Alright Locarno, are you feeling slighty smug and a wee bit relieved with your Lamps captaincy?
    I know I am 😉

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Nah, mate - I had no concerns. Never in doubt. Racing certainty.

      Yeah, bloody relieved. My captaincy/bench options this season have been pants.

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      1. Red-United
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        I've had him captain too. Didn't see the game so not sure if he was attacking at all. Might be worth 'downgrading' him to Mata you think?

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      2. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Still with the same link. Christ alive.

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        1. Locarno
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Where'd you pop up from? Thought you rescuing gay meerkats or summint.

          Yeah, I need to change that.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      🙂

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  9. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Didn't realise Ruddy got sent off. Vorm in the WC surely?!

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    1. Leysh
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Without doubt.

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    2. PFOR
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      You're gonna want that wildcard at some stage. How bad is your team that you need to do it? I just did a possible WC team and it looks tempting but I'm prepared to take a 4 point hit instead and work my way to that team.

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        I want Silva, Mata, Walcott, Enrique who I don't currently have. They're all going to rise too quickly for my liking.

        I also have Cahill who's already dropped who I need to get rid of and Moses and Sessegnon aren't doing the business!

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        1. PFOR
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Understandable.

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    3. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      You keeping Moses in your wildcard team Andy?

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      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Not sure.

        Again he seemed unlucky not to get some more points today (reading online at least).

        Decisions decisions.

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        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          At 5.0m he's the bench option. Problem for me with bench options are that I end up playing them too often.

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    4. Lewis - Sky Pod
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Only problem, Given and Vorm don't rotate well at all.

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Vorm and Sczesney.

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        1. greghammer95
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Your back! :O

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        2. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          6m GK? No thanks!

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        3. Locarno
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          Whoa - those are my keepers. Bugger off.

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          1. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah? They're my 'keepers in my first WC draft, but it will undoubtedly change countless times over the next couple of weeks.

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      2. Leysh
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Don't need to Rotate them, just play Given when Vorm has a top 5 team.

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          What about when Swansea are away? I don't want to be playing a Swansea defender/keeper in any of their away games.

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          1. Leysh
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            He played really well at Wigan away. As long as he's not against a team that are known for scoring loads of goals then I'm happy to keep him in.

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            1. Leysh
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 7 months ago

              My mistake, it was at home to Wigan. But still think he'll be fine.

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      3. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        ...and then get a bit of Richard Dunne in there too.

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      4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Vorm & Krul, Vorm & Schwarzer ...

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  10. Podge
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Whats the chances of Hernandez being back for the next gameweek,
    Reasonable idea or Madmans punt ?

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    1. The Rock
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      He played last week sure!

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    2. Leysh
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      He already is back

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  11. SierraDelta
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    thinking hendo for adam as liverpool mid cover save myself 2.5m, do think adam will start firing them in once he gets one

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I think Adam is overpriced, better value in Silva, Nasri, Walcott (for now), maybe Mata.

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      1. moment
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Just got an assist

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        1. moment
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 7 months ago

          And a goal.

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          1. Calroid
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 7 months ago

            😆

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      2. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        I think Adam is a good option, it's just Suarez is better.

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  12. Feanor
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    I'm getting back into Pro Evolution Soccer 6 with an updated Option file, and I managed to recreate that crushing FK off the bar that Baines almost scored a week ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQeozz4N8rU

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  13. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Is there no way of checking on teams transfers, history or if their taking a hit?

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  14. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Definite penalty!*

    *on first look

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe not.

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  15. bds
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Gargamel, you have started as poorly as me. But it's not a sprint, right?

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  16. leycrjb
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Does anyone know how long Mata's price is protected for?

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  17. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    wow, been out since 3, looks like i’ve missed a lot of talking points!

    mata goal on debut, lampard goal, vorm cs and motm (yes!), blackburn miss 2 pens??!, ruddy sent off, no torres goal (haha, told you so), henderson’s 1st goal (nice), suarez starts (come on lad!)

    have i missed anything?!

    how long did mata play for? he look good?

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Mata 24 minutes. Didn't see the match though.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      DD, last 20 or so. Didn't do bad, but not great, then blam.

      Obviously you missed the ongoing Sess goal drought. 🙂

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  18. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    I'm going to love my WC in a couple of months

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  19. Mr Smith
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    "he could open up a tin of baked beans with that (left foot)" ......seriously Ray, give it a rest.

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  20. Bolivian Seaman
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Di Santo: 2 goals in 57 BPL matched before today

    what does bpl mean?

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      bigpuddinglips

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    2. Matt_
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Barclays Premier League.

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    3. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Barclay's Premier League.

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  21. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    I need to save my Wildcard for later in season when I'm away for a month.

    So considering 4pt hit (maybe even 8pt)

    Torres > Suzrez
    Cole > Bosingwa

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    1. Feanor
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      I have two freebies and will be doing Suarez for Torres tonight, and Silva in for Cahill tomorrow. Assuming neither break their legs.

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  22. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Gnu: Like your team's colour scheme. NO red players...

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Brave or stupid?

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  23. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Klasnic yellow for all the bandwagon jumpers.

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  24. CFCTom
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Skrtel header! 2-0 'Pool, Adam corner, they are worth £10 mill on their own them corners.

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  25. Kloppelganger
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    As mt Gravatar shows I love Suarez but Lucas is the best player on the pitch today imo.

    P.s. Surely it's only a matter of time before no.2 comes-----famous last words perhaps?

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    1. Kloppelganger
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      *my

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  26. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    Skrtel goal.

    2-0

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 7 months ago

      Adam assist.

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      1. Matt_
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 7 months ago

        Zat Knight was poor.

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  27. Harry Ball Bag™âš½âš½…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    whats happened to liveff.com???

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  28. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    My god that Zat Knight is some pile of ^%&*

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  29. Mr Smith
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    LOL @ G Cahill owners

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  30. Matt_
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 7 months ago

    3-0, Adam scores

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