[sbu_large_image] The Knee Jerk
26 November 2011 1614 comments
Mark Mark
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Rafael van der Vaart was always a doubt, Roberto Mancini’s lineup tomorrow at Anfield, surely a lottery. We knew, approaching the gameweek, that things were going to get treacherous. We weren’t quite prepared for further setbacks.

Phil Jones’ omission from the United lineup and 18-man squad, perhaps wasn’t a major shock. The 19-year-old had strung together six consecutive appearances for United and England this month and, with options available to Sir Alex, the decision to rest the former Rovers man at least carries some logic. It doesn’t make it any easier to take however.

Presumably Jones remains a first choice option in Ferguson’s lineup, but it’s certainly not guaranteed, with Fabio and Chris Smalling, along with Rafael, all available to fill the right-back berth. Unless Jones can find his way into the United midfield or alongside Nemanja Vidic in the centre, it seems that his Fantasy owners are now set for a degree of uncertainty each week.

Having established himself in the top five of our Watchlist this week, Jones’ position now looks vulnerable, leaving Fantasy managers with few options but to look to the expensive Vidic or Patrice Evra, if they are to seek a secure route to United’s defensive returns.

As it turned out, the controversial spot-kick that handed Newcastle a point at Old Trafford, made the bitter pill of Jones’ absence that little easier to swallow. The pain felt as a result of Frank Lampard’s omission from the Chelsea lineup, was certainly more severe.

While Juan Mata bewildered visitors Wolves, helping himself to a handsome goal and two assist points haul, Lampard was left fidgeting on the bench, missing out on the fun of a convincing 3-0 win.

The decision to rest Lampard will certainly have taken most by surprise. He’d started the last six league games, scoring five goals in a spell that had reinstated him as a worthy Fantasy consideration. Ownership had climbed and suddenly there was belief that he warranted attention, despite his hefty Fantasy price tag.

We do at least, have an explanation for today’s decision. Andre Villas-Boas stated post-match that, with four yellows collected, he was protected from a possible ban with Tuesday’s Carling Cup clash with Liverpool in mind. Very few of us would have predicted such caution, or that Villas-Boas would put such priority on the midweek tie.

The Wolves fixture at Stamford Bridge look tailor-made for Lampard – an opportunity to boost his goal count further against one of the most obliging defences in town. A 21-minute appearance from the bench saw him draw a predictable blank however, with Mata owners basking in a 14-point haul, that will surely be boosted further by the maximum FPL bonus return on Monday. Having previously failed to compete with Lamaprd’s explosive returns, suddenly attention will now shift back to Mata – a cheaper option, who will surely see heavy investment before gameweek 14.

With Van der Vaart missing out, Royston Drenthe absent from Everton’s 2-0 win at Bolton with an ankle injury, and the Man City lottery to come, the need for a strong Fantasy bench has suddenly become more apparent.

Many FPL managers will find themselves relying on their second and even third substitutes this weekend; that could see some unlikely names pressed into action.

As we approach the busy Christmas period and things ramp up in the Champions League, rest and rotation are surely set to bite even deeper. Suddenly, we’re struggling to find a place for the Shane Ferguson’s of this world.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Nice1Cyrille
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Should have known RVP would misfire this week... Gave Silva the armband last week over RVP thinking his amazing run of form would come to an end after the international break. Big loss. So of course, this week I give the armband back to RVP... watch Silva bang in a few tomorrow...

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    1. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      You have to play the odds though. Of course RVP had to stop scoreing some time, but overall he had the best chance of scoreing out of any player, you would have to have balls of steel to not captain him.

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  2. Hect.OR 98th
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Rooney to Ade now, or wait?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      ade has already got to 70% to rise. If not tonight he will list 2moro nite.

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Wait.

      It will just rub it in more on Monday when you see him pick up his 14 pts knowing that although he's now in your team you won't see a single one of those points.

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    3. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I love how people have clung onto Rooney for so long, and as soon as he does actually score some points again they all want him out 😛

      Having said that Rooney>Ade before his price rises would probably be a decent transfer.

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Man utd have scred 1 goal each game in the last 6 games. And he still plays deep..

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    4. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I just did..

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        doing it later

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  3. johnny sash
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone know if Drenthe was injured or just dropped?

    Thinking of dropping Bale in for either Drenthe or Sinclair and not sure which one's gotta go.

    Any help is greatly appreciated!!

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    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 19 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Drenthe missed out with an ankle injury. No confirmation on how serious it is as yet.

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      1. johnny sash
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers Mark,

        3 of Drenthe's next 4 fixtures are pretty impressive so would prefer to keep him, however that changes if he's fell out of favour. A slight injury is actually quite good news as long as he'll be fit again next week!

        On a side note, you don't know how long Ryan Nelson will be still sidelined for? He's been sat in me sun dreamteam since august!!

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  4. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Looking at my last 3 GW's scores.

    I know how Steve Kean feels now.

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      nomar, you look like a drama queen 😉
      Your two previous scores were above average and you have 6 players left to play this week!

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      except steve kean knows it over 13 gameweeks 😀

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  5. colin1201
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    the pain of captaining rvp and seeing him return 2 points.
    reminds me of the days when i captained suarez...

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  6. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    So, who's keeping faith with RVP cpt next week. Might be a few heads turned by Man City v Norwich or Spurs v Bolton...going to be a tough one!

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    1. Fernando Torres
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      mmm Ill keep RVP Capt

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Captain Ade.

      Doesn't explode like RVP but he kills non Ade owners every week lately.

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    3. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm completely torn between RVP, Aguero and VDV.

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    4. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I would love to be able to captain Silva or Aguero next week.. but last time I tried captaining each of them they returned a single point. Theres just no way of knowing whether they will get 90 minutes or 30 seconds of game time. I'll have to stick with RVP.

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    5. Darkwood Dub
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      ADE or Aguero. most likely ADE

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    6. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Try the Yak vs Swansea

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  7. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Is it likely for the following players to score 35 in total? Silva, Kompany, Sinclair, Enrique and Graham.

    I need to get to the 50 point mark... I'm struggling this week

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    1. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      No

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    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      20 points more likely would expect a cs from enrique/komp

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      1. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        *wouldnt

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      No i doubt it. Liverpool have a good defence. City might get a clean sheet and silva might get an assist but i can't see much more than that i'm afraid. 20 max.

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  8. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Just 31 with Vorm, Enrique, Kompany, Silva, Dyer and Gabby to play. Should have captained Mata over RvP 🙁

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    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      hindsight is a great thing

      thats a good score with all tose to play

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        yeah i guess i was always going to captain RVP. But the guy i'm playing is on 36 with Kompany, Silva(c) Milner and suarez to play. I can't see any of my differentials getting above 2 and he has his captain to play!

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      2. Tommy J
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Yes it's a nonsense to say you weren't thinking of captaining RVP-too big a risk. I had Ade as my vice but no way you'd consider captaining him on an away game vs RVP at home...........wish I'd captained Ade!

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      31 with 6 to play and you're complaining?

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I am satisfied but I think i've lost my H2H though ^^

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  9. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I try too hard with FPL, maybe I should take up drugs instead. 🙂

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    1. Darkwood Dub
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      ive tried, doesnt work... 🙂

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        + 1

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  10. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    19 points with dyer, richards, enrique, vorm silva to go. shocking

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  11. Houdini
      14 years, 4 months ago

      My record with the banker bonus on ikts is ridiculously bad, anytime I don't double up my bankers bonus with the insurance I lose. I had Arsenal to win 2-0 today, it seriously is bad, every time I do it I seem to lose. Big mistake from Wenger not to play Gervinho I think, he has been one of their best players this season.

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    • Raul Seleccion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Panic as my cunning plan to swap the armband from RVP->Bendtner fails spectacularly

      more panic when Vermaelen gets an own goal.

      RVP scoring 2 like Bendy. and Vermaelen scoring at the right end, full on cardiac arrest

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      1. McDog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        You keeping Bendy or selling him?

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        1. Raul Seleccion
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          selling for ade. lost patience with him, and Ade is killing me

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          1. McDog
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Think I'm getting rid of him for Ba. I've had him for 4 weeks and he's done absolutely nothing.

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    • Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      What a horrendous gw 🙁 did baines get the assist for the first or was it billy?

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    • MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I thought my 29 with 5 to play was OK but most people here seem to have more!

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Can you read?

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      2. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        People only tend to post if they have done well or very poorly. Thats a good score for today.

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      3. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Get you!

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        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Meant for MJ6987, not you Mac.

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      4. Oliver Reed
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        see my above comment should make you feel better..

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      5. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I have 25 with silva and aguero that is all ....

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        1. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I have 16 with Vorm, Silva and Graham to go. You think you have it bad.

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      6. Cyril Figgis
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        29 with 5 left seems pretty good to me. I'm on 28 with 4 left. Pretty sure most people are having an aweful week.

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      7. Darkwood Dub
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        27 with Vorm, Sinclair, Silva, Adam Johnson, Aguero to play...

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    • UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Which is the better move? VDV to Bale or Aguero to Adebayor?

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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        or VDV to Bale and Sturridge to Ade for a hit?

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        1. moment
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I just did VDV to Bale - VDV will drop tonight, Bale rise, so makes sense to beat the price changes. Don't think Studge to Ade is worth it, I'd aim to have both. As for Aguero, I'd wait for tomorrow...

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Happy enough to sit tight with Aguero except that there's a high probability he wont play next sat. Only way I could get both Ade and Sturr is to trade Aguero

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    • Ninjaa
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Is rooney due to drop tonight, thinking of doing him to adebayor tonight?

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    • JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      still after that advice

      ok now the game has finished I can ask for advice

      Team is

      Vorm/Westwood

      Raylor, Brown, Jones, BAE, Woodgate

      Tiote, Sinclair, Allen, Silva, VdV

      Aguero, RvP, Hernandez

      I have 0 in bank but 2 frees

      Should I take out Hernandez to Ba/Ade to free up some cash, or go Sincs- Ben Arfa?
      Woodagte to McAuley

      and should I take a 4 point hit getting Tiote out?

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Take hits. As many as you want. Can't do any worse than I'm doing without taking hits.

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    • CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Getafe vs Barcelona, put your money on a Messi hat trick.

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    • The Spudgunner
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Oh well i'm looking forward to next week.

      Vorm(bla)
      N.Taylor(bla) || P.Jones(avl) || Walker(BOL)
      VDV(BOL) || Drenthe(STO) || Silva(nor) || Sinclair(bla)
      Rooney(avl) || RVP(wig) || Sturridge(new)

      Subs: Ruddy(mc) || Ferguson(CHE) || Enrique(ful) || Simpson(CHE)
      1.1m in the bank
      Fergie-->>Formica to improve the bench

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        You made that far too complicated.

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        1. The Spudgunner
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I dunno why I did that...now I just look wierd.

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    • Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      what do we reckon the average to be

      18-20?

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I'd say so.. around 14-16 imo

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      2. McDog
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        22/23 IMO

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      3. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        23 imo.

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      4. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        20+ I would say. Quite a few have ade or mata

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        1. Smarty Pants
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Mata is owned by 4.8%, Ade by 14.3%... That's not quite a few.

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            ok quite a few in my league have one or the other then

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      5. The Spudgunner
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        10 tbh

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        1. udit
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          😆

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      6. Cyril Figgis
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        It must be at least 20. Not -everybody- captained RVP.

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    • Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Similar to Defoe, with VDV injured I can give Pilkington his first chance in my team. With a plum home fixture, it was all set up beautifully.

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    • andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      RVP to Ba. Done.

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Not sure if serious

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        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Of course not!

          Damn RVP though, had to come to an end at some point I guess. Still captaining him next week though.

          May get Ba in this week even with the Chelsea fixture.

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          1. Demí
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah, gotta captain RVP next week. Not sure i want to change my strikeforce to get Ba, even if he is really good value

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            1. andy85wsm
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              Who you got?

              I'm rocking Bendtner, RVP, Adebayor.

              Also considering Suarez...

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          2. Cyril Figgis
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Ba will probably rise this week, and he does seem to be pretty fixture proof with an assist and goal against the 2 Manchester clubs. I would love to get him in myself, but I can't really see who I'd remove, with RVP, Ade and Aguero up front.

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      2. moment
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I considered this earlier because of the midfield it would give me. But realized it was lunacy.

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    • Holy See
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      22, 3 to play. Jesus wept. Any reason Drenthe didn't play, if anyone is in the know?

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      1. Tommy J
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        It was touted round pretty early on that he wasn't on the bus and a lot of posters suggested Moyes had hinted at it mid-week.

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        1. Holy See
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Cheers Tommy. On my bench but must question his place in my squad of underachievers.

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          1. Tommy J
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Well I've had Moses for a long time(on my bench) and the first time I've really needed him at least he's come up wuth an assist albeit a bit dodge!

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        You and me both, bud ... 🙁

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      3. Ghost
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Heard he didn't recover from a knock last wknd.

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    • 1NAM
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry if this has been posed earlier, only got home now and wondering will Rooney keep his assist?

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      1. CFCTom
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        yes 100%

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        1. 1NAM
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Love you

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            They still selling that knocked off alcohol in Saudi?

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            1. 1NAM
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              Pardon me?

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    • Houdini
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Just realized Alan Pardew sounds like Andy Townsend. 😕

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        1. Ghost
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Less BS though.

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      • Lrf
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Two out of Rooney, Ramsey and Brunt out this week, been saying "just one more week" for too long now. Aguero, Larsson and Walters on my list. Would deff get Aguero in if it wasn't for the Munich game, damn it's hard.

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        1. CFCTom
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I doubt Aguero will play in the Munich game, he certainly wont start.

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          1. Cyril Figgis
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            How can you be so certain? Surely with City doing so poorly in Europe and them needing a win, Mancini might mix things up and give Aguero an outing.

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        2. Lrf
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Woodgate -> Simpson (to free up some cash) for:

          Rooney and Brunt -> Walters and Aguero?

          Would be my first -4 hit this season.

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      • Fernando Torres
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        RMT
        Vorm Given
        Brown BAE Vermaelen Enrique R.Taylor
        Mata/Walcott Silva Bale Sessegnon Sinclair
        Ba RVP Adebayor

        What do people think of this team?
        Who should I get Mata or Walcott?!

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        1. Scratch
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Wow Ba, Adebayor, Mata, Bale and Vermaelen you must have scored big this week 🙂

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          1. Fernando Torres
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            no no ha I'm putting in ba and mata, the rest i have

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        2. Lrf
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Mata imo. If it doesn't work out, then atleast you might earn you some money.

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          1. Fernando Torres
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            kkk think I am leaning that way

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      • Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        RVP facing Wigan next, mad not to captain him.

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        1. SPorting
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          mad. mad as a box of badgers.

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          1. Cyril Figgis
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            or a bushel of ferrets in a sock.

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        2. McDog
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Spurs and City players are good options next week.

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      • Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Ba or Sturridge?

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        1. Corrigan
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I have Sturridge and I'm thinking of getting Ade. If you already have or can't afford him, then Ba would be my vote.

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      • SPorting
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        i know this is the knee jerk thread but i am absolutely loving the RvP posts:

        "it's the end of the RvP world"

        "RIP RvP"

        "RvP > ?"

        keep 'em coming people.

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        1. don parcheesi
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          RVP is overrated

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          1. SPorting
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            whatever he may be, his returns have been telling.

            one 2pt week and it's the end of world.

            love it. LOVE IT!

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          2. don parcheesi
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            that didn't come off quite as tongue in cheek as it sounded in my head

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            1. SPorting
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              i think i'm beginning to rely on smileys too much...... 😉

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        2. CFCTom
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          RVP didn't score against Fulham, but he'll come back straight away against Wigan and wont be risked in the CL game as they're already through.

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        3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          gobshites aren't they

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        4. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Even Vermalen can score against Fulham, and he's paid to defend!

          RVP SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          1. SPorting
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            only because he practised in his own net first.

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