[sbu_large_image] The Knee Jerk
26 November 2011 1614 comments
Mark Mark
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Rafael van der Vaart was always a doubt, Roberto Mancini’s lineup tomorrow at Anfield, surely a lottery. We knew, approaching the gameweek, that things were going to get treacherous. We weren’t quite prepared for further setbacks.

Phil Jones’ omission from the United lineup and 18-man squad, perhaps wasn’t a major shock. The 19-year-old had strung together six consecutive appearances for United and England this month and, with options available to Sir Alex, the decision to rest the former Rovers man at least carries some logic. It doesn’t make it any easier to take however.

Presumably Jones remains a first choice option in Ferguson’s lineup, but it’s certainly not guaranteed, with Fabio and Chris Smalling, along with Rafael, all available to fill the right-back berth. Unless Jones can find his way into the United midfield or alongside Nemanja Vidic in the centre, it seems that his Fantasy owners are now set for a degree of uncertainty each week.

Having established himself in the top five of our Watchlist this week, Jones’ position now looks vulnerable, leaving Fantasy managers with few options but to look to the expensive Vidic or Patrice Evra, if they are to seek a secure route to United’s defensive returns.

As it turned out, the controversial spot-kick that handed Newcastle a point at Old Trafford, made the bitter pill of Jones’ absence that little easier to swallow. The pain felt as a result of Frank Lampard’s omission from the Chelsea lineup, was certainly more severe.

While Juan Mata bewildered visitors Wolves, helping himself to a handsome goal and two assist points haul, Lampard was left fidgeting on the bench, missing out on the fun of a convincing 3-0 win.

The decision to rest Lampard will certainly have taken most by surprise. He’d started the last six league games, scoring five goals in a spell that had reinstated him as a worthy Fantasy consideration. Ownership had climbed and suddenly there was belief that he warranted attention, despite his hefty Fantasy price tag.

We do at least, have an explanation for today’s decision. Andre Villas-Boas stated post-match that, with four yellows collected, he was protected from a possible ban with Tuesday’s Carling Cup clash with Liverpool in mind. Very few of us would have predicted such caution, or that Villas-Boas would put such priority on the midweek tie.

The Wolves fixture at Stamford Bridge look tailor-made for Lampard – an opportunity to boost his goal count further against one of the most obliging defences in town. A 21-minute appearance from the bench saw him draw a predictable blank however, with Mata owners basking in a 14-point haul, that will surely be boosted further by the maximum FPL bonus return on Monday. Having previously failed to compete with Lamaprd’s explosive returns, suddenly attention will now shift back to Mata – a cheaper option, who will surely see heavy investment before gameweek 14.

With Van der Vaart missing out, Royston Drenthe absent from Everton’s 2-0 win at Bolton with an ankle injury, and the Man City lottery to come, the need for a strong Fantasy bench has suddenly become more apparent.

Many FPL managers will find themselves relying on their second and even third substitutes this weekend; that could see some unlikely names pressed into action.

As we approach the busy Christmas period and things ramp up in the Champions League, rest and rotation are surely set to bite even deeper. Suddenly, we’re struggling to find a place for the Shane Ferguson’s of this world.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Laserface
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    Does Vermaelen look good for bonus points ??

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    1. udit
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      Should

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    2. Optimus.
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      defo 2 goals

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  2. joinho
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    22 with 4 to play 🙁

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  3. Jukesy
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    Can't complain with 49 and 3 players to play I guess. Bit annoyed RvP did nothing as captain, but I think I'm better off than fair few others here..

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    1. Hybrid.power
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      Careful now....

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      1. Jukesy
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        It's a slight smugness due to the previous week where 9 of my players scored 1 or 2..

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    2. udit
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      *47 😯

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      1. andy85wsm
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        He's already factored in the fact Drenthe didn't play and Ramsey will come on

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        1. udit
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          😳 but the 😯 is for his poiints btw.

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          1. andy85wsm
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            O.

            🙂

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      2. Jukesy
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        Ramsey and his Moses like consistency in for Drenthe

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  4. andy85wsm
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    In some ways I'm glad VDV didn't play today. My main rival is probably going to go a bit further ahead but he got rid of VDV for Bale this week so now VDV is a differential for me.

    Hopefully he comes back with a bang next week.

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    1. andy85wsm
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      in fact what am I saying. I'm not happy he didn't play. He would have been a differential today too.

      Maybe I'm glad he got put as doubtful so my rival got rid.

      Maybe I'll just shut up

      Yeah I'll do that

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      1. Retro
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        🙂

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  5. Scratch
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    Jones, Lampard and RVP OUT
    Terry Mata and Adebayor IN

    Chalk it down

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    1. Bungalow Bill
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      knee jerk extraordinaire

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        Thats very polite

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    2. Cyril Figgis
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      Stopped reading at "RVP OUT"

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    3. Dave Bauer
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      I assume you're joking.

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  6. Tillyboggis
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    20 with 4 possibles to play, silva. Suarez Allen Enrique. When the day starts with jones, drenthe and vdv out and featuring in your team. I knew it was not going to end well. Could nit rely on rvp digging me out of hole again. Looks like brief stay in ffs cup unless silva or suarez get 10

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  7. VarunK
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    Just knee-jerked sideways

    Ramsey->Walcott
    &'
    VDV->Bale

    Just frustrated with both Ramsey and VDV

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Unless you've only had VDV for 3 weeks I don't see how you can be frustrated with him.

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      1. VarunK
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        I needed to free up the money to upgrade ramsey to walcott.

        Walcott just looks extremely dangerous and one of these weeks he's going to go up to double figures...

        Bale seemed the only logical choice to replace VDV.

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    2. Tommy J
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      Ramsey should have had two goals-still got some ok fixtures.

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      1. don parcheesi
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        story of his past month... he has every reason to be a good pick, but I feel my knee starting to jerk

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        1. Tommy J
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          Me too but I've just looked at alternatives-Walters, Larsson etc and I'm not that impressed with their fixtures vs Arsenal's-I'll stick

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  8. Optimus.
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    the bad thing about studge and ade scoring again means loads are going to have same strike force now rvp/ade/studge especially with studge/ade great value leaving funds to upgrade midfield/defence

    differentials in midfield will play big part for next few weeks..and the likes of baines now

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    1. Le Bluff
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      Completely agree. I have RVP, Ade and Suarez. Suarez will probs go for Studge, purely for the value. Looking at bringing in Nani/Young.

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      1. Optimus.
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        im looking to lose nani this week

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        i have the same 3

        and will probably drop suarez for ba/sturridge

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    2. Smarty Pants
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      Baines is coming into my team. Not getting him in this week was a big mistake, could have done it for free, but thought that ShawX would outscore Bainesy today... Lost at least 4 points, eating my heart out now 🙁

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    3. andy85wsm
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      I'm going RVP, Adebayor, Ba probably. Maybe Suarez instead of Ba.

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  9. Scratch
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    RVP is finished. Sell for Crouch & Holt

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    1. SPorting
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      are you mad?

      Studge is the new bandwagon 😉

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    2. udit
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      maybe franco di santo?

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      1. Jukesy
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        +1

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      2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        Velios all day surely?

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  10. Sir Ledley
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    23 with 7 to play. swansea clean sheet would be appreciated.

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      Swansea acleanie would be VERY handy against defensive villa

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      1. Cyril Figgis
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        Now you say defensive.. but they still can't get clean sheets. Given owners found that out the hard way. I would just said they were shit rather than defensive...

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  11. Piggs Boson
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    I know it's only saturday but i'm stuck for transfers. I want sturridge but Chelsea are away to newcastle, then home to man city! Doesn't look good.

    Vorm | Krul
    Brown Kompany Enrique | Ward Raylor
    Silva Brunt VDV Dyer Mata
    RVP Adebayor | Agbonlahor

    +0.1m, 2 free transfers.

    Sturridge, Richards, Walters, Bale and Ba are on my watchlist. Any ideas?

    Thanks.

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      only players i would get rid of there are brunt, ward and agbonlahor.

      Aggy---> Ba? simples

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      1. Piggs Boson
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        But newcastle play chelsea next. How about:

        VdV -> Bale
        Ward -> Richards

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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          He scored today. Assisted versus city. Why can he not do well next week?

          Those are good transfers. But 2 city defenders with Arsenal and Chelsea coming up?

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  12. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    Rooney out for:

    1 - Adebayor
    2 - Aguero
    3 - Hernandez
    4 - Ba

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    1. Laserface
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      2

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    2. Piggs Boson
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      1. Spurs have decent fixtures coming up.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        I was thinking that. I feel the Aguero transfer could be very short sighted and there is no guarantee he will start against Norwich.

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        1. CFCTom
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          Yes there is, he will start- there it is.

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          1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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            And your opinion was that RVP would be rested today. Sorry, but I am going to disregard your opinion.

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  13. Scratch
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    Wigan coming into form so time to sell RVP and Helguson for Hernandez and Crouch SELL SELL SELL

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    1. Smarty Pants
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      Holy Moses has hit form and will destroy Arsenal's defense next week

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      1. Cyril Figgis
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        Captain Moses next week. Dead cert for a hat-trick.

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  14. That's Groß
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    Bendtner > Yakubu

    3 home games in the next four, on pens, sound good?

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  15. Le Bluff
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    I have 31 this week, with Vorm, Kompany, Enrique, Silva and Suarez to play.

    My PPC opponent has 43, with only Silva to play.

    Can I make up that difference?!

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    1. SPorting
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      yes.

      or no.

      depends how many points the players score.

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      1. Le Bluff
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        Ta for that.

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        1. SPorting
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          oh alright then.

          i'd say it's definitely possible.

          Silva will be a marked man and your extra men look good for 15+.

          and you have Ade's BP's to come too.

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    2. Yossi
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      No, sorry

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    3. Jukesy
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      Probably not. You need either Kompany/Enrique/Suarez to score 2 or more between them.

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    4. Laserface
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      Vorm 7
      Kompany 1
      Silva 9
      Enrique 1
      Suarez 12

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    5. Piggs Boson
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      If all your player play 60 minutes, you need 5 extra points to win. You would need a man city and Swansea clean sheet. Or a swansea CS and Suarez assist. Doesn't look hopeful...

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    6. CFCTom
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      Easily imo.

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  16. Yossi
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    Rooney & B.Johnson -> Bale and Ba for a 4 pointer????

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  17. mischty
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    Did Rooney just gain about 80k? I went out to watch the Arse game and Rooney was set for the drop. I come back in, and both t-fpl and fiso both have him now at level. What gives?

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    1. WhoIsRonaldo
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      yeah its weird i was gonna transfer him out and seen he is back level puzzling!!!

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    2. Ninjaa
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      +1 noticed that and was going to ship out, not sure whether to act so soon now

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      1. Mr Smith
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        Is it because his flag was removed so is protected and therefore reset the NTI?

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  18. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    still after that advice

    Team is

    Vorm/Westwood

    Raylor, Brown, Jones, BAE, Woodgate

    Tiote, Sinclair, Allen, Silva, VdV

    Aguero, RvP, Hernandez

    I have 0 in bank but 2 frees

    Should I take out Hernandez to Ba/Ade to free up some cash, or go Sincs- Ben Arfa?

    Woodagte to McAuley

    and should I take a 4 point hit getting Tiote out?

    As good as Ba/Ade look United fixtures look good, they're due to hit top form (we had nearly 30 shots today, Hernandez always likely to grab a goal)

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    1. mischty
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      If you trust Stoke, Wilkinson is 4.0 ,you could go sideways with Woodgate and gain .5 . I would keep Hernandez if you already have him, when VDV returns Ade won't deliver as effectively imo.

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    2. udit
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      don't get rid of hernandez, probably get rid of aguero next week, do 1 transfer woodgate out, and save 1

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        Get rid of Aguero when they're playing Norwich?

        Certainly Wooders is gone, it's simply a question of is Sinclair and Allen too much Swans coverage?

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        1. udit
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          next week after norwich

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            who do u recommend? Ba?

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    3. Lrf
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      Hernandez to Ade is a good transfer imo.

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    4. Ghost
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      See p4.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        then who do u recommend?

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        1. Ghost
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          Ade

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            not Ba? Ade seems to perform less well when VdV does well.

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            1. Ghost
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              Ba is a perfectly good option also. I have Ade - Spurs are in good form and an OK run of fixtures.

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    5. Retro
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      Your defence is horrendous. And most of your midfield. Do you have a wildcard?

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        no had to use when I had 6 players injured

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    6. Mull
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      Why would you take Hernandez out? 2 in 2 and better fixtures than Newcastle.

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  19. Back to Back Ballacks
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    Will Rooney keep assist?,,,i don't think he should,doesn't really bother me but he really really shouldn't get it.

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    1. Lrf
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      He will

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    2. Smarty Pants
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      Earning fake assists is what he is majoring in

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  20. Lrf
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    Vorm Krul
    Enrique Jones WOODGATE McAuley Brown
    Vdv Silva RAMESY Dyer BRUNT
    ROONEY Rvp Ade

    0 in the bank, 2 FT.

    Players who are hanging by a thread is in bold. How do I fix this, any tips? Thanks.

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    1. dopey1
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      Rooney to Ba/Sturridge
      Woody to Richards
      Ramsey to Mata/Bale/Walcott

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      1. Lrf
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        Thanks for the advice. Might not be stupid that, but City got some hard games coming up. Will think on it.

        What about Aguero and Walters in for Rooney and Ramsey as an alternative?

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  21. Forest4Life
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    Who tou out Ade, Rvp or Hernandez

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  22. CFCTom
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    Ronaldo assist, Di Maria goal. 2-1 Real Madrid.

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  23. Rwilliams90
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    What do we reckon for bonus points for united?

    3 for Hernandez? I hope so, captained him.

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    1. Scratch
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      Squandered an awful lot of chances but most were on target so he'll probably get 3 unless Krul does.

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  24. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    chelsea are after tiote?

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    1. CFCTom
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      Godin, Cahill, Perreira, Hulk and Lavezzi too.

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      1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        greedy

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  25. nik
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    Me: Warnock + Kompany + 2 points
    PP opponent: Dyer

    Who will win?

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    1. Mr Smith
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      Certainly no triumph for MENSA

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  26. living the dream
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    Man uniteds upcoming fixtures are awesome. Just transferred jones in.

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    1. Demí
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      Jones was out of the squad, and Rafael/Smalling still didn't get a game at RB. He'll be a 6m rotation risk now, and you don't want to be worrying about that every week. Sell and cash in i reckon

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      1. Optimus.
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        any chance of him getting a look in in midfield?

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        1. Demí
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          Probably will get the odd game there, with long term injuries to Anderson and Cleverley still out for a bit

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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        who would you get for man u def cover dem?

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        1. Demí
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          Probably Vidic or de Gea

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          1. Leysh
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            De Gea

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          2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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            bit 'spensive

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        2. andy85wsm
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          I think it has to be Vidic or De Gea.

          Vidic doesn't seem great value for money though. I like De Gea and he seems to be making a lot of saves but I don't think I want to spend that much on a keeper.

          Anyone else is just a rotation risk or not worth the cash (i,e Evra).

          I made the mistake of trying to get cheap defenders in from the top 4 teams last year and on the most part it backfired. Going into christmas I want pretty much a team of guaranteed starters.

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      3. andy85wsm
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        THIS!

        He's gone for me this weekend. I'll take the profit and say thank you Sir Philip.

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        1. Leysh
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          Who you swapping him for?

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          1. andy85wsm
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            Any number of people at the moment.

            Current thinking is mainly between

            Bendtner to Suarez and Jones to 4.8m or lower (Young or Brown probably)

            Bendtner to Ba, Jones to Baines and Given to Westwood. Annoyingly though I can't afford Jones to Baines without doing the keeper move and not sure I want to do that for a hit. Don't really want Ba until GW15 either but he's probably going to rise this week so may just have to do it.

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    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      ?!???

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  27. The Light Knight
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    what does an og do to ppi?

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    1. living the dream
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      I would guess at a negative impact

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    2. andy85wsm
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      Makes it go down probably

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    3. Mull
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      Decrease it.

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    4. Dave Bauer
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      It boosts it hugely, +25,000 per own goal.

      Just kidding, no idea.

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  28. Forest4Life
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    Begovic Ramsey to De gea Formica no hit??

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    1. Optimus.
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      id rather beg to sor and if you want to rid of ramsey larsson could be a good shout

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      1. Forest4Life
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        Need blackburn cover

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        1. Cruicky
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          Rochina and Hoilett both classed a strikers...

          Formica only came in for suspended Dunn, missed a great chance at 1-0 and lasted 70mins.

          Yes they have SWA - H, but are bottom for a reason.

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  29. Mull
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    We are going to see a few 8-12 point hits in the next week.

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    1. andy85wsm
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      Considering 8 🙂

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  30. jfr
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    if you are considering dropping RVP. give it up and play a different game.

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