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23 July 2012 2274 comments
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We’ve a number of things in development right now, including the new event maps to be added to the members area, a new version of the season ticker which will get the tool back in the sidebar on every page of the site and the members’ pre-season player projections.

I’m directly involved in the latter, working with Fantasy Football statistician Chris Atkinson, the creator of the statistical model that powered his “Rate My Team” website over the past two seasons. Last year the stats brains amongst the Scout Team, namely Pure Olivia and Superior Being, spent a lot of time looking at Chris’ model and came to the conclusion that he had created something really rather special.

The model is built specifically to assess every player in the Premier League and return their expected values for Fantasy Premier League points in a given Gameweek. The system is a complex and thorough one which, of course, plots the probabilities of a player’s time on the pitch, their expected number of goals, assists, bonus points, yellow and red cards, clean sheets, own goals, goals conceded and saves. The strength of the opponent they are facing in a given Gameweek is also crucial; so every team has a attacking, defensive rating, every player a probability of playing a given match with injuries, suspensions and international absence or factored in.

When it came to improving our projections for the coming season, it was a no-brainer for us. We approached Chris to be involved and we’re delighted to say he joined the Scout team ranks earlier this year. We’ve been spending several weeks working with the existing model and hatching plans for improvements. However, the pre-season projections have been the priority and they are now close to their first release.

Right now we’re factoring in the effect of the African Cup of Nations on those likely to participate but, once that is added to the model, we’ll be very close to a first set of numbers.

We’re looking to publish full projections for every player, plotting their total points, goals, assists etc for the entire season. We’re also looking to deliver short-term projections offering a view of the opening six Gameweeks.

The projection tables will be fully sortable and you can assess FPL points per million value to help you run the rule of those crucial budget purchases.

I’m certainly encouraged by the numbers being produced at the moment and have no doubt that, by bringing in Chris’ model, we’ve taken a big step to delivering our the best set of pre-season projections yet. I’ll hopefully bring you more on this in the next few days…

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    The more stats the better, for us nerds.

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    1. kennethrhcp
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      agreed 🙂 the comparison tool is very good imo

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      1. Flog the trog
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        Ha. Know I love it!

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          nice to have a sense of security created

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  2. Flog the trog
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    Sounds Awsome

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    1. Flog the trog
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      I read the whole article and got 2nd? You guys are slacking 🙂

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  3. Gaz Downright
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    sick (in all senses of the word)

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  4. Taribo West on a free
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    Rate My Team was a useful site in years gone by, sadly I'm too poor to become a member.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      May I ask from where you are from?

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      1. Taribo West on a free
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        Ashby-de-la-Zouch

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  5. FORCA INTER
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    i was looking forward to this

    thanks 😀

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  6. Lambert Is A Goal Machine
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    Sounds good, will it be for non-members or not though?

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    1. Flog the trog
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      No it members I think. Get your hand in your pocket!

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      1. Taribo West on a free
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        We'll still have the ticker right? *clings to his ticker*

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        1. Flog the trog
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          Haha, yea kinda, you get you 6 game ticker!! Just not the bigboy

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          1. Lambert Is A Goal Machine
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            Haha I shall have to I guess, about time I repaid all involved with the site here - has been a big help over the past 2 seasons.

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            1. kennethrhcp
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              that's the way i felt also, think i stumbled across the site 3 years ago & loved it... thought it would be rude not to contribute as i was on here alot. only started using the stats towards the end of last year

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              1. Flog the trog
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                i kinda did the opposite, i used the predicter looooads during the preseason, and bombed miserably haha, perhaps its just my choices!

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  7. Liastro ⭐️
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    Right, this is generic but rip it to shreds as you see fit. 2.0m in bank by the way.

    Friedel – Federici

    Ivanovic – Lescott – Fabio – Demel – Clyne

    Hazard – Bale – Tarrabt/Michu – Noble – Maloney

    Aguero – Graham – Torres (-> Rooney GW2)

    Cheers!

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
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      It's very nice. I've seen a lot very close to yours.
      Do your 3 cheap Defs rotate well?

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    2. Flog the trog
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      Seem fine, but as its generic then it's going to be haha. Try writing a differential in and you'll just get told to put a generic in! Catch 22

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  8. ERIC CANTONA
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    RMT PLS
    Federici
    ivanovic(C) ,vidic, mariappa
    siggurdson ,hazard, guthrie,noble
    balotellli,torres,rooney

    bench- degea maloney diemel ,tierney

    suggestions pls

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    1. JCSkala
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      Balotelli game time

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      1. ERIC CANTONA
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        if tevez leaves then fr sure..and he's on penalties also...what abt siggurdson ? or should i go for van der vaart..also the no arsenal cover is a worry .. suggestions pls .

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        1. JCSkala
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          Hard to say on siggy vs van der vaart. I've paid the extra for bale. and need to with tevez out that will be fine but i dont think he'll leave. and if RVP goes get giroud/podolski but if RVP stays, probably wait and see

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  9. Lambert Is A Goal Machine
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    Here is my first draft, knowing that there is room for improvement. All comments/criticism welcome:

    Federici

    Cahill Harte Hangeland

    Yaya Toure Kagawa McClean Bale

    Torres Aguero Pogrebnyak

    Jaaskelainen Lallana Simpson Fonte

    Cheers.

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    1. kennethrhcp
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      shorey could/will hurt harte's gametime. is cahill 100% to start? team looks good

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      1. Lambert Is A Goal Machine
        • 14 Years
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        Ah, wasn't aware of the Shorey development - I presumed they'd be relying heavily on Harte's set piece deliveries given the height of their attack etc. Cahill isn't 100% but I imagine he is pretty sure. If I hear otherwise I imagien i'll swap him out for Cole, Ivano or Terry nearer the deadline.

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  10. iCon
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Exciting....stats don't lie (except when they do)

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    1. Acquafresca
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      Icon is your ML for ranks under 20k?

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      1. The Bandit
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        Full of lurkers having an ego fest, don't go there.... 😛

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        1. Acquafresca
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          Thats what i thought 😉

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        2. kennethrhcp
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          & some non-lurkers 🙂

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      Stats lie, obfuscate, and distort all the time.

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  11. The Bandit
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    As I said earlier you got your recruitment targeting wrong..... Forget stats, just point out that for less than 33p a gw you get to see the bap predictions a day earlier.

    Watch the cash roll in... 😉

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    1. Flog the trog
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      yeeeeea! big numbers is worth the price alone

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    2. Xabi
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      although you dont, because they're often wrong

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      1. jamsiep
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        How can predictions be wrong?

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  12. Gimli son of Gloin
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    Anybody have a team that's not generic?
    Just wondering do we think a generic team is the only way of doing well...

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    1. The Bandit
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      Well I don't have Maloney or Noble.. 😀

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      1. The Bandit
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        And I do have Koscielny, N'Zogbia, Petric, Tevez, Ness and Sinclair

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        1. Gimli son of Gloin
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          That's what I like to hear 😀

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    2. Sean
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      I Do,but its slowly turning generic with every day.

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    3. McDog
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      The FFS generic team didn't do well at the start of last season. If you're going to take some punts, then now is the time to do it.

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    4. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      I currently have a West Ham GK/ Def
      and Kagawa and Valencia
      and Ivanovic and Cole

      the rest is pretty generic

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      1. Fray Bentos
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        all those players are also generic expect maybe valencia!

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          yeah, I know, but maybe not the double-ups.

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    5. Bøwstring The Carp
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      I've Walcott and Lennon in my draft team, not a lot going with them. Also have Adebayor (who hopefully will make the official move to Spurs)

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    6. kennethrhcp
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      i think i do but no point putting it up as ppl will try & make it more generic

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      1. Gimli son of Gloin
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        I don't mean generic players...everybody is going for the same players, just people seem to be putting them out in the exact same way.

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    7. Gimli son of Gloin
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      I've got ..
      Begovic
      Hangelaand Shawcross Coloccini
      Hazard Silva Kagawa Ben Arfa
      Jelavic P Cisse Suarez

      (Federici, Noble, 2 starting rotating 4.0's.)
      Comfortable enough with it, just trying to squeeze in Spurs cover.

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  13. Taribo West on a free
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Right, a RMT then I'm off to wash up.

    Federici - Jaaskelainen
    Ivanovic - Huth - Hangeland - Cuellar - Debuchy (I know, I know)
    McClean - Bale - Yaya Toure - Dyer - Britton (or another 4.5m mid, not sure)
    Torres - Bent - Rooney

    I'm getting there, right?

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    1. Taribo West on a free
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      Your silence is golden, people. To the suds!

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    2. Sean
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      Like the Huth-McLean picks,someone being different,stokes fixtures are awful though.

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      1. Taribo West on a free
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        I'm a bit of a Stokemon, went to Uni there, so a Stoke pick is obligatory, plus they'll be stronge rthis season than last, no distractions.

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  14. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    This is worth foregoing the couple of pints to save for the membership fee.
    I only used that Rate my Team site last season and found it very useful when it was active.

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  15. 1966 was a great year for E…
    • 15 Years
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    Can't say I really liked that Rate My Team site. It was well presented and I'm not knocking the work that went into it at all, but it takes the fun out of FPL imo. Seemed a bit like cheating.

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    1. Taribo West on a free
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      But I didn't always agree with what it said, for example it really didn't rate Shotton.

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      How is it cheating its just researching statistical probabilities.
      It does not take away the one crucial variable LUCK!

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        You know what I mean, not cheating but not exactly playing fair either, letting someone else crunch all the stats and do all the work for you 🙂

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    3. King Eric, in America
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      +1, just said something similar below.

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  16. manehi
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    Hmm. I'm liking this currently. 3.5m in the bank.

    DDG - Federici

    Ivanovic - Clichy - Hughes - Wilson - Demel

    Silva - Sessegnon - Ramires - Noble - Maloney

    Torres - Adebayor - Graham

    2m for Torres -> Rooney, remaining 1.5m gives me plenty of options to get in any mid/striker that hits form. If Ade doesn't move then Silva -> Bale and Ade -> Aguero using the 1.5m.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      I am going something similar myself. But instead, I am going with a slightly cheaper midfield. Leaving 4.0m in bank so when there is a clearer picture I will know who to pick.
      Larsson instead of Sess is an obvious switch.

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  17. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    Howdy folks. Been about for a bit, but was having a read of the Michu article. Missed owt good today?

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    1. Acquafresca
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      Too crowded for my liking. Cant even discuss without 500 casuals posting a RMT in between

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  18. Bøwstring The Carp
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    Sounds good as a guideline, just worried about unlikely point hauls, i.e. RVP's hatrick against Chelsea last year and strange results like Everton-United's 4-4 or City's 6-1 win over United that earned players more than predicted. Still sounds cracking though 🙂

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  19. Acquafresca
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    Can I just state that it would be nice for all the casuals to at least get a gravatar(pic) so i dont keep ignoring their posts..

    A link on top of that would be even better, then you can roll with the cool kids 🙂

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    1. Acquafresca
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      You can find out by clicking FAQ at bottom of the page.

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      1. kennethrhcp
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        i get confused when regulars change their gravs, that happen anyone else?

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  20. PogChamp
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    It's a shame the FPL don't offer API services. Would mean less work for you guys.

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  21. guillermo
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone think Nolan is worth the extra 1m over Noble. He can get you the odd brace and surely West Ham won't get many penos in the Premier league

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    1. Jonny
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      not worth the extra million in my opinion

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  22. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    So. If Lucas Moura signed, how much do you think he'd be? And would you consider him?

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
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      I'd say 8.5 the same as Kagawa. And not really interested until I see how they line up on the first 2 GWs

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    2. Jonny
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      can moura or kagawa play the holding role?

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      1. Chazza
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        They could, but they'd be awful there.

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        1. Jonny
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          so is there room for both to start with two wingers?

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          1. Chazza
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            If Moura plays on the wing, yes.

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            1. Chazza
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              Not Moura, Kagawa and 2 different wingers.

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  23. King Eric, in America
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    Sounds like an enormous task - can't wait to play with it. I do have reservations about the reliability of a predictive algorithm ... it just seems so impossible to do, complexity notwithstanding ... and -- if it *is* that good, I wonder whether it's a fantasy sports killer.

    Just call me Sir Buzz Killington, I 'spose.

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    1. Taribo West on a free
      • 15 Years
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      Sir Buzz Killington.

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      1. King Eric, in America
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        😀

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    3. Acquafresca
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      How did you join a Fox soccer broadcaster league??

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      1. King Eric, in America
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        I was just stuck in there, some sort of commercial tie-in lottery, I presume.

        It's only a payoff if I get to troll on Eric Wynalda and Alexi Lalas ... but that's an opportunity too fantastic to contemplate.

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      2. Sean
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 7 months ago

        Randomly selected I heard

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    4. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Kill Bill Suzzington

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    5. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Yep, totally agree - I don't like the concept really, and doubt how effective it is anyway. I never remember seeing any kind of comparison between their predictions and reality either.

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  24. Shatner's Bassoon
    • 15 Years
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    Rate my new name, cheers.

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    1. guillermo
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      3/10

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      I prefer Shatner's Bassoon, myself.

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      1. Shatner's Bassoon
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        Cheers King...I suppose it matches the grav better too. (Changes back).

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  25. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 7 months ago

    For the sake of discussion: When did Noble perform FFS wise?

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Never. Just a cheapo on PKs and set pieces.

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        • 15 Years
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        Another 2010-11 Joey Barton?

        Or a Charlie Adam?

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        1. Acquafresca
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          13 years, 7 months ago

          probably neither. He'll probably get 2-5 assists with the odd goal. Nothing special, around 100pts i reckon

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  26. Declan-
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    Can't wait to have a look at this. Great work scouts

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  27. Tommytour
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    RMMT

    De Gea
    Rafael Lescott Clichy
    Hazard Kagawa Sigurdsson Frei
    Tevez Giroud Suarez

    Begovic Demel Gunter Britton

    Flair 😎

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    1. Acquafresca
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      Flair or Risky?

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      1. Tommytour
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        13 years, 7 months ago

        Nah Flair

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      if Frei looks likely to get game time he's in for me over Noble, but need convincing. Kacalikic looks worth monitoring

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    3. lazybones18
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      tevez ? will he even play

      tevez --> aguero ?

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    4. Jonny
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      i would wait on giroud, also need atleast one decent sub otherwise fixtures or injuries will cause chaos.

      But your midfield and forwards have flair 😉

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    5. Gaz Downright
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      this team has 8 players unproven on consistent EPL level

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      1. Tommytour
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        Rate My Mates Team 😉

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          uhm... so... 8?

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          1. Acquafresca
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            Out of 16. 😉

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            1. Gaz Downright
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              So, 5/10.

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    6. dykeypunk
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      Nice your back four are the same as mine

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      1. Tommytour
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        Haha quality

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        1. dykeypunk
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 7 months ago

          Want to do a RMT but cant post comment, can only reply any suggestions

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    7. hillbillypete
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      a lot of those may not play....

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    8. Gimli son of Gloin
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      Love. Apart from Frei, I love

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      1. Liastro ⭐️
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        +1

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  28. chilldoubt
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    I have Silva in my draft team -- I have noticed that no RMTs seem to include him. As the prevailing wisdom last year was that he was almost essential to any well balanced FF team...can someone let me know what has changed (if anything!) Although I am happy to stand out, I still respect the wisdom of crowds, so am concerned....

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    1. hillbillypete
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      he's more expensive

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    2. The Bandit
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      His price as the only £10m mid means he is the exact opposite this year. Unless you have him as an alternative to Aguero he makes it hard to get a balanced side.

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      1. chilldoubt
        • 14 Years
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        Thanks. Maybe he is over priced at 10. Might keep him just for the irony of having Silva as a differential 😉

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    3. Jonny
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      i think only one of silva or aguero is ideal, i have none so i am concerned, both is over kill

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      He'll do really well, and everyone will complain that only 'casuals' have him, like Rooney at the start of last season...

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    5. Shipstontrev
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      He's £10m. That's what has changed.

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    6. andyniterider
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      13 years, 7 months ago

      his price

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  29. kennethrhcp
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    pog for gmwk1 & switch to graham or just go with graham from the off?

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      This is my problem, also. Would be a precious transfer wasted...

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      1. Jonny
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        • 14 Years
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        graham

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    2. Acquafresca
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      Graham from the off. Pog will be too hard to replace after he shits the bed gw1

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    3. Holy See
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      Thinkin Graham from the off is more sensible. But sense often doesn't apply. Pog, for a bit of interest in that game, middle of the week, sod all happening, get you at least 2 pts. Potential immediate gratification v long haul glory.

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    4. kennethrhcp
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      heers lads, looks like i'll be going with graham... for now, team will change 100 times yet

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      1. kennethrhcp
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        *cheers

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  30. pewty
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    13 years, 7 months ago

    Anyone else think Man U are just being mischievous with their public 'pursuit' of RVP? Just making sure City pay up for him...??

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    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Didn't they do the same with Nasri last year?

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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 7 months ago

      Season ticket emails went out today...

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