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Just seven goals in 46 appearances tells the sorry story of Fernando Torresโ€™s frustrating time at Chelsea. In the latest of our pre-season Burning Question articles our contributors examine the chances of the Spanish striker recapturing the form that persuaded Chelsea to shell out ยฃ50m on the former Liverpool man…

Since joining the London outfit in the January transfer window of 2011 many of the Stamford Bridge faithful have been left perplexed at the poor form of a player that scored 82 goals in 214 appearances for Athletico Madrid, and 65 strikes during his four years at Liverpool. As the goals dried up, Torres has struggled to sustain a starting role: last season Didier Drogba was given the nod to lead the line and repaid that faith with a string of important goals.

However, this season sees a different Chelsea setup. Drogba has departed for China and Torres finds himself with very little competition up front; currently only Daniel Sturridge is vying for the strikerโ€™s role, with Romelu Lukaku now departed for a season-long loan at the Hawthorns. While bodies are clearly required up front, the club have instead invested heavily in midfield, with Torresโ€™s compatriot, Juan Mata, now joined by Belgian Eden Hazard and Brazilian Oscar to form a lineup brimming with creativity and craft. A confident Torres could provide the final piece in title challenging jigsaw, but can he raise his game and gain legendary status at the Bridge?

Granville saysโ€ฆ
In my opinion, no. Many words have been written about his fee and the expectation that came with it, but a closer examination of his style of play and that of Chelsea, looks to me at least, in conflict. A direct counter-attacking style of football where he has to come for the ball, doesn’t suit and unless Chelsea can successfully employ a number ’10’ who can pick up the ball and play it in front of him, I cannot see him ever being a consistent goalscorer. Unfortunately, a succession of injuries and surgery has removed the explosiveness he had five years ago, so he’s had to adapt his game. There’s no question that he works hard for his team-mates but that will never be enough if the goals fail to flow.

Despite being one of his biggest fans, Vincent Del Bosque showed a lack of faith by choosing to go without a striker in all but one of the Euro 2012 games, only offering him a start against Ireland, the weakest of opponents. He duly returned a brace in that game and a goal against a 10-man Italy out on it’s feet.

Having already turned more corners than a Rubik’s cube, I’d be hugely surprised to see a transformation in form that comes anywhere near close to his dazzling first couple of years at Liverpool.

Andy saysโ€ฆ
Oh god I hope so. I really, really do. His confidence has to have been boosted by his Euro 2012 goals and his form at the end of last season. With Didier Drogba having departed for pastures new, Torres really needs to step up and command that striking spot for Chelsea – not least because they have so few options available. Considering Roman Abramovich has been splashing the big bucks to amass an attacking midfielder armoury to now include Eden Hazard, Oscar and Juan Mata, Torres will surely get the ammunition.

Paul saysโ€ฆ
Despite limited game time in the recent Euro 2012 tournament, Torres finished as top scorer and demonstrated his ability to function at the highest level – for as long as the tactics are suited to his style of play. While the searing pace and burst of acceleration beyond the last defender โ€“ a trademark of his time at Liverpool โ€“ may no longer be in evidence, he is still capable of excelling in the season ahead, providing Chelsea play to his strengths; something they have yet to do in El Ninoโ€™s time at the Bridge.

Much depends on Roberto Di Matteoโ€™s ability to integrate the new signings such as Eden Hazard, Oscar and Marko Marin alongside Juan Mata in the attacking midfield positions behind Torres, while implementing a change in playing style. If the Blues boss can achieve this seamlessly, the Spanish forward could finally flourish for the Londoners. Although a return to the 24-goal haul of 2007/08 seems unlikely, a confident Torres could quite comfortably hit the 15+ mark; on the other hand, thereโ€™s no doubt he has the potential to hugely frustrate his Fantasy owners in any given Gameweek.

Mark says…
This has to be the time for Torres. Having struggled to earn his opportunity to lead the Chelsea attack and fend off the claims of Didier Drogba, he now looks assured of starts playing in front of what is arguably the most creative midfield in the League. Service shouldn’t be an issue, then, and, if Torres can take confidence from his Golden Boot winning displays in Euro 2012, I see no reason why the goals won’t follow.

Fantasy managers are on board regardless of his long-term prospects due to the double Gameweek but how many are actually looking to carry Torres beyond the opening week? For many, Wayne Rooney is being measured up as an immediate replacement but if Torres produces against Wigan and Reading, the temptation to hold for the visit of Newcastle will be strong. He has every chance of working his way into our lineups and Chelsea folklore – if he can get his head right and take a couple of early chances, he could make a mockery of his Fantasy price tag. Failure in the first few weeks, however, and both Fantasy managers and Roberto Di Matteo will waste little time in lining up a new recruit.

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  1. si
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Graham has scored a few pens pre-season with Sinclair off the pitch. Any risk to this becoming permanent? Also assuming no Dempsey, who will take Fulham's?

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    1. Back on the horse
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'm starting with Graham so I hope he does assume duties. Fulham? pass

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    2. Scroobius Mac
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Not if Sinclair sticks around I don't think.
      I think Petric will take Fulham's.

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    3. Dial Square
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      No chance unless Sinclair leaves. Sinclair is a v good penalty taker.

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  2. Mozart_s Balls
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    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Noble OR Maloney guys?

    Planning to rotate with Kacaniklic. This means Noble will spend half of games on my bench, so his penalty-taking appeal kind of diminishes for 50%, don't you think?

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    1. Joga Bonito®
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Bannan ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  3. Rafinho
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    My first year in fantasy PL, can somebody give me any advices?

    Federici - De Gea
    Lescott - Ivanovic - Harte - Demel - Cuellar
    Maloney - Noble - van der Vaart - Ramires - Yaya Toure
    Torres - Aguero - Petric

    GW 2 Torres -> Rooney
    GW 3 Ramires -> Holman/Pienaar

    Thanks in advance!

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    1. Dr. Rog
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Dont plan transfers in advance. their will be major surgery to do when half your team inevitably fails (whoever you pick) in the first GW

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  4. Scroobius Mac
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    De Gea on for Lindegaard at half time after the latter buggered up for the first goal.
    Sorts my keepers out then.

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  5. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    THAT IS WHY CARRICK ISNT A FECKING CENTRAL DEFENDER!!!

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        yeah sorry about caps, saw that guy posting RMT in caps earlier but i am very annoyed not only about this game but in general today

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        1. Sorry, Ajay - cheer up, mate! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    2. JK - Cønt โญ
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      +1

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    3. Chazza
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'm not sure why Fergie was talking about Carrick playing CB with Vidic and Rio both fit?

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      1. D1B
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cuz Rio is shit. And they are both old and need time to recover sometimes.

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      2. Demí
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        He was talking about his being emergency CB, not actually playing. He's playing CB tonight as Rio's been given a rest.

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  6. gdog2244
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Will marveaux get anytime?

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  7. JK - Cønt โญ
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Evs. Why do you think Swansea will be poorer at the back this year. De Guzman will fill the Allen role, Laudrup has said he'll stick to what has gone before. Plus dumping Williams really buggers up my

    FUL/SWA and NEW/SUN rotations

    Only other thing I could do is FUL/NEW and SUN/WBA

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    1. Because he is a miserable Dai. Comes naturally ... ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    2. Scroobius Mac
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      They've lost Caulker too - don't know how good Flores is yet.

      Plus they relied on SuperVorm last year - it's hard for any keeper to keep up that sort performance to the level that will earn as many CSs as they did.

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    3. Rtas
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Even if they are poorer at the back in comparison, their fixtures are so amazing that they're worth a punt for a few GWs at the least

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      1. Limbo
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Agreed. Got to punt cheap somewhere - may as well do it on fixtures.

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    4. DLL18
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      The main reasons why they were solid at the back are 1. Vorm and 2. They played a style of football with high possession. I don't think either of those things will change this year.

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      1. Limbo
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        No Caulker is a loss though. And a new manager with a penchant for rotation and attacking football has got to change it a bit.

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  8. itstimmehc
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Does anyone else view Kagawa as a direct replacement for Park? ie. A player used in the bigger games, but is not nailed on, and is likely to be on the bench for the smaller games?

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    1. Chazza
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Not even close. Only comparison is the energy they have.

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      1. La Roja
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        and eyes

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        1. Epic Fail
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          ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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    2. Infinite Sheldon
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      No.

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    3. D1B
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      No way. Kagawa is far better. Stop being racist ๐Ÿ˜›

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      1. itstimmehc
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        I admit his nationality may have had an influence on my statement ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  9. afcblegend
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    United 2-1 down already in 2nd half, could have been 3

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  10. Chazza
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Hannover 2-1. Great cross and a centre-back won the header ahead of Carrick.

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  11. 4vets
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Isn't the BBC website coverage of the Olympics truly great? With broadband, picture quality is lovely on my 22" screen. Very impressed.... hope Sky take note.

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    1. Agree. I would prefer to take Sky out altogether ... ๐Ÿ˜ก

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      1. 4vets
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        Me too... footy is footy though and I can't do without it ๐Ÿ˜•

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        1. I cheat ... ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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          1. The Bandit
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            I just got rid of Sky as my new phone contract includes all Sky sports and ESPN. Robbing bastards...

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            1. We are about to install a new Freevision contract with Beardie ...

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      2. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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        If it wasnt for the money from SKY PL wouldnt be where it is today. Look what happened in Scotland when SKY pulled out

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        1. ... and your point is? ๐Ÿ˜•

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          1. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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            SKY have brought so much money to the EPL and without them it wouldnt be where it is today

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        2. Infinite Sheldon
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          When you say, it wouldn't be where it is today. Do you mean, the ridiculous wages and how expensive it is to watch?

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          1. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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            13 years, 6 months ago

            I mean the EPL wouldnt not sky

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          2. afcblegend
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            which brings some of the best players in the world to our league...

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          3. GREENDREAMS11
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            13 years, 6 months ago

            Yes. Exactly. Clubs at risk of going to the wall etc etc. f..ck Sky and the Murdochs

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    2. The Bandit
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      46" HD... awesome ๐Ÿ˜€

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      1. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Size isnt everything ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        1. The Bandit
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          No, but if the quality is amazing as well...

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          1. Limbo
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            13 years, 6 months ago

            Chortle

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          2. 4vets
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            13 years, 6 months ago

            Is the web stream good on a large TV?

            I have a 46" TV but the boy sometimes uses that for his xbox stuff which means I watch on my PC.

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            1. The Bandit
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              13 years, 6 months ago

              Never tried tbh

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          3. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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            haha touche

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        2. Infinite Sheldon
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          13 years, 6 months ago

          Size is nothing with TVs. Whatever you buy, you'll get used to it and it will seem normal after a week of having it, at least in my experience. The only reason to have a TV that size, is if you sit far away from it IMO.

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          1. The Bandit
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            13 years, 6 months ago

            Nonsense

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            1. Infinite Sheldon
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              13 years, 6 months ago

              As I said, that is my experience. It is pointless having a big TV unless you sit far away. If you sit a metre away then it's obviously a waste.

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          2. 4vets
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            13 years, 6 months ago

            That's not true. When I bought our TV I looked into this and I think the optimum viewing distance for a 46" TV is about 9 feet so peripheral stuff doesn't interfere. I actually bought a bigger TV because of this.

            That said, I have got used to it now but when compared to the blurred 32" we used to have...

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            1. Infinite Sheldon
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              13 years, 6 months ago

              You basically just agreed with what I said?

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  12. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    DDG at fault for 2nd goal?

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    1. Chazza
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      It was a poor punch away from the corner but there was nothing he could do about the cross and header that followed.

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      1. Damo.
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Not watching the game. Did the poor punch lead to the cross?

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        1. Chazza
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          13 years, 6 months ago

          It went to an opposition player at the edge of the box who passed it out wide and then the cross came.

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          1. Damo.
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            So... his fault

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    2. afcblegend
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      nope, so no need to worry ๐Ÿ˜€

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    3. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers boys

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  13. Razmataz
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Any Reading fans out there?

    Will HARTE be a regular in the Reading Lineup?

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    1. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Im not a fan but he will not be 100% starter which rules him out for me

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      1. Specialist
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        This. Won't start all the time.

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  14. shite_factor
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    If ye get a min, please take a look.

    de Gea (Cerny)

    Lescott - Cole A - Hangeland (Fabio, Cuellar)

    Guthrie - Bale - Mata - Kacaniklic (Nolan)

    Graham - Aguero - Torres (c)


    £1.5m in the bank.
    Will sell Cole / lescott to raise that extra 0.5m to replace torres for rooney.

    Any ideas? Hate being that tight for cash.

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    1. Infinite Sheldon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      You need an escape route for Torres definitely.

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      1. shite_factor
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, might just do away with De Gea now and save the hassel for selling the two boys at the back. Will have enough then for roon or whatever.

        Any ideas on improvement? Its my 2nd season, so still a newbee

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    2. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Weak mid, no cerny, go de gea to krul

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      1. shite_factor
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cerny is only 4m.

        Yeah, I thought of De Gea to Krul. Prob guna do that.

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  15. blue cheese
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Gute nacht! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. Buona Notte ... ๐Ÿ™‚

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    2. Reedy
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Subh rathri ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    3. 4vets
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Sleep well.

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  16. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Real are now 2 up against Celtic. On ITV4

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Men in small swimwear are doing crazy flips into water on BBC3.

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      1. Whatever floats your boat ... ๐Ÿ˜€

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      2. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Good shout.

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      3. Reedy
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        That channel has always been trashy!

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    2. mufc802
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Just had a quick look, hard to tell the 2 teams apart because both kits are white..

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      1. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah. Celtic wearing black socks.

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  17. methos
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Lost on the previous page, input appreciated!

    Can sb please convince me why I shouldn’t spread my remaining 13M to 2×6.5M?

    I currently have Yaya plus Noble but I’m really leaning towards 2 players from Nzog/MClean/Larsson/Pienaar

    I am at my wit’s end.

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    1. Reedy
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      I spent 13mil on O'Neil / Nasri. It could all go horribly wrong, of course.

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  18. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT

    GK: Krul, fed
    DEF: lescott, a williams, vidic, shorey, McCartney
    MID: bale, marveaux/ kacaniklic, Dempsey, Sinclair, pienaar
    ATT: jel, pog, Torres

    2.5 mil in bank Torres to aguero

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    1. Po!
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Too much exposure in Everton who play ManU in GW1
      and that goes against Vidic..
      Aguero against SOT...gonna get to 11.6 by GW2..unless Tevez spoils the party

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  19. cuterandy
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Will Kagawa start for United??

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      He bloody better do.

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    2. D1B
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      possibly not

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    3. cuterandy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think fergie will go for 4-2-3-1 formation..that will utilize kagawa properly

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  20. wHiPpiNG_BoYs
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Graham or Naithsmith????

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    1. D1B
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Graham

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    2. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Graham

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    3. Infinite Sheldon
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      moyes said Naismith will be used sparingly due to injury problems so Graham.

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  21. Sam
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Who's the best defender for 5.5m or less? Koscielny, Kaboul, Rafael the standouts.

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    1. D1B
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Dawson if he is nailed on?

      Collo if NEW defense holds up?

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cardiff put 3 on their best df today !

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        1. D1B
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Leaky New in pre-season doesnt bother me. Was the same last pre-season i think. There def are experienced at keeping it tight.

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  22. D1B
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Can anyone recomend a site with good coverage of pre-season games? Live stream would be wonderful. Looking for Man u game in particular, if it's still on.

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    1. Sam
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      United match is 65 minutes in. http://www.nutjob.eu/ 3-1 down to Hannover..

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    2. D1B
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      Thanks

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  23. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Jade jones the taekwando golf medalist is tasty ๐Ÿ™‚

    As they say. . . I would rather fook her than fight her ๐Ÿ˜‰

    * hic, vino kicking in ๐Ÿ˜› *

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      * gold medal even.

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      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        .... And she's Welsh, so she be for it ๐Ÿ™‚

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        1. JK - Cønt โญ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          she is fit indeed. She's no Alex Morgan but...

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          1. Evs
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Pshht.

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        2. 4vets
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          13 years, 6 months ago

          Aye, so she be!

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        3. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Charming.

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  24. Tiki-Taka
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    PSG 0-1 Lorient approaching half time , not the ideal start thus far but far from over

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  25. Bøwstring The Carp
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    What a goal from Hannover !!

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    1. Kings of Lyon โ˜…
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      DDG ๐Ÿ™

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  26. Chazza
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Hannover 3-1 United. Backheel finish from a player unmarked in the box from a cross out wide.

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    1. takemehome
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      shocking at the back tonight

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        yeah, i have turned off my stream now

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  27. JW10
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    de Gea / Federici

    Ivanovic / Clichy / Williams / S Taylor / Gorkss

    Ramires / Cazorla / Pienaar / Michu / Guthrie

    Aguero / Torres / Graham

    standard 2 mill in the bank for the Pig in week 2...

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    1. andres
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      To early for cazorla

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
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      I like it but for the lack of Spurs attack for GWs 2+3. Maybe swap Cazorla for Siggy / Bale and find the 0.5 somewhere.

      7/8 on 10

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  28. itstimmehc
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Christ, United need some strikers who can actually score :L RVP may be expensive for his age, but at least he scores goals :/

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  29. manehi
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Rooney scores from a free kick...

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  30. andres
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    Fed friedel
    Terry lescott fabio demel fonte
    Bale maloney lamps ramires michu
    Roo Petric tevez

    0.0 in the bank

    Thanks in advance for critics...;)

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