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27 August 2012 3810 comments
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A couple of Gameweeks into the new season and Sir Alex Ferguson has been tinkering with his up front options already, handing Fantasy managers plenty to consider. For the weekend visit of Fulham, the United boss retained just one of his four attacking players –Shinji Kagawa – from the side that lost to Everton in Gameweek 1; a sign, perhaps, of what may unfold over the campaign.

There’s little doubt Kagawa has settled quickly into his new surroundings. With his manager admitting the idea of starting both Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie for the Fulham match was “too much of a risk” due to fitness issues, the Japanese star was an automatic selection for the role in “the hole” against Martin Jol’s side.

Prior to the match against the Cottagers, Ferguson lavished praise upon Kagawa, indicating he expects a significant attacking contribution from the Japanese star over the course of the current campaign:

I would also include Shinji Kagawa in the [goalscoring] mix because he is very much an attacking player, nominally from midfield but perfectly capable of taking a front role. One thing for sure is that he will add a scoring dimension if he plays central midfield, as he showed last season for Borussia Dortmund. We have been low on goals from midfield in recent seasons. There was a time when Bryan Robson would give you a dozen through the centre of the park and Paul Scholes in his heyday was good for 10 or so but lately we haven’t seen that kind of tally.I believe that Kagawa will put that right, which with the addition of Van Persie to the team, should ensure that we don’t lose any more titles on goal difference.

With Rooney now ruled out for the next few matches with a thigh injury, Kagawa could be set to forge a partnership with Van Persie up front for United – as a result, we take a look at the club’s first two matches to ascertain just where, if any, the difference lay in the respective performances.

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Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Looking at the average position map from the two games, the similarity between Kagawa and Rooney at Everton is striking. In the Goodison encounter (left), Kagawa (26) and Rooney (10) were almost in identical positions when in possession – the latter’s propensity to drop back and influence the game from a deeper position dampened the side’s attacking edge. Nani (17) also played a part here, too; starting on the right wing, the Portuguese star continually came inside when on the ball, affording Kagawa little space to dictate matters in “the hole”.

Compared to the Fulham game (right), the difference is obvious. Antonio Valencia (7) hogged the touchline far more than Nani managed at Everton, while Robin Van Persie (20) took up a more advanced position than Rooney in the lone forward role. These two factors combined allowed Kagawa a far greater in the middle of the park and afforded United a superior attacking edge. Indeed, Kagawa’s average position against Fulham is the same as Rooney’s at Everton; a definite sign that the two are perhaps too similar in style to play together as effectively as Kagawa and Van Persie or Rooney and Van Persie.

Kagawa and Rooney

Despite his side having less of the ball against Fulham in comparison to Everton (60.1% v 70% possession), Kagawa managed to register slightly more touches per minute (1.0 to 1.1) against the Cottagers. He also received exactly the same number of passes per minute (1.4) in both games, though his overall totals are obviously affected by the game time in each match –he played the full 90 minutes against the Toffees but made way for Rooney on 67 minutes on Saturday. Regardless of who he plays alongside up front, the Japanese star is likely to see the same amount of the ball, going by the stats so far.

Kagawa (eve)Kagawa (FUL)Rooney (FUL)Van Persie (FUL)Rooney (eve)
Mins/Touch1.11.03.32.21.3
Mins/Pass Rcvd1.11.44.33.31.9

Rooney’s stats, on the other hand, vastly differ over the two games. Against Everton as the lone frontman, he had a touch every 1.3 minutes and received a pass every 1.9 minutes but, coming on as a direct replacement for Kagawa, he failed to impress in “the hole” alongside Van Persie. The game seemed to pass by the United number 10 – with a touch every 3.3 minutes and a pass received every 4.3 minutes, his arrival failed to have the desired effect.

A look at Van Persie’s stats against Fulham highlights the difference in his interpretation of the lone forward role – he had less of a desire to drop back like Rooney against Everton and was resultantly far less involved in the overall play with a touch every 2.2 minutes and a pass received every 3.3 minutes. With more space afforded to Kagawa as a result of Van Persie and Valencia’s presence, the Japanese playmaker managed four shots in the Fulham match, whereas against Everton he failed to register a single attempt.

Nani and Valencia

The battle for the right wing berth is just as pertinent a point. As the respective average position maps highlight, Valencia clearly offers a better balance on the flank and the stats more than back this up. Against Everton, Nani saw the ball once every 1.4 minutes – while that’s not too dissimilar to Valencia’s 1.1 minutes per touch against Fulham, it’s where the likeness ends. Nani made just 28 touches in the Toffees final third over his 78 minutes at Goodison; half Valencia’s 56 in the win over Fulham.

Indeed, the latter was United’s main out ball in the attacking zone against the Cottagers – he received 40 passes and made 29 successful passes in the final third; Nani’s Goodison stats are 16 and 12 respectively, a significant difference.

Mins/TouchFinal 3rd TchPass Rcvd Final 3rdSucc Pass Final 3rdCrossesChances Created
Nani (eve)1.428161280
Valencia (FUL)1.1564029143

The maps below represent the position of origin of each chance created in each of United’s two games so far. The lack of creativity on the right at Everton (left) differs vastly from the Fulham match (right) with Valencia on the flank, with United failing to provide a single scoring opportunity down the right at Goodison. The latter produced 14 crosses against Fulham compared to Nani’s eight at Everton and Valencia also created three goalscoring opportunities in Saturdays’ win – Nani failed to make a single “key pass” against Moyes’ men.

Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Nani’s lack of defensive awareness is another factor here and one which could play a part in Ferguson’s thinking. The Portuguese star’s tendency to drift centrally when on the ball resulted in 14 of Everton’s 18 crosses coming from the Toffees left flank, with the likes of Leighton Baines and Steven Pienaar benefiting from Nani’s wayward positioning. Fulham, on the other hand, were reduced to just five of their 13 crosses from the same wing with Valencia and Rafael limiting the attacking potential of John Arne Riise and Alex Kacaniklic in comparison. Furthermore, when it comes to goalscoring opportunities, Everton created six from the left on Monday, while Fulham managed just two at the weekend, despite having far more of the ball against United than the Toffees.

The stats certainly suggest that right now, on form at least, Valencia is a far more productive option on the right than Nani and with Kagawa’s partnership alongside Van Persie up front looking strong, Rooney’s injury certainly takes one difficult decision out of Ferguson’s hands.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. JC Lopez
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    how come rooney hasn't gone down in price?

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Looks like he'll drop tonight

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      As I understand it its because he is injured. This means he would be flagged as a result meaning he would require far more transfers out in order to drop in price

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      1. JC Lopez
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I see...that sucks! I really need him to drop as much as possible while he is out.

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  2. D1B
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Woops posted this in the wrong thread earlier:

    Ok so i am considering a WC, mostly because Nzog is pissing me off.

    Team Before wc:

    de Gea (FED)
    ZABALETTA / Hangeland / Collocini / Cuellar / CLYNE
    NZOG / VALENCIA / GUTHRIE / Michu / Bale
    Rvp / Tevez / Graham
    1.0 in the bank.

    Team after (changes in caps):

    de Gea (BEGOVIC)
    RANGEL / DEMEL / Hangeland / Collocini / Cuellar
    HAZARD / FELLANI / KACANIKLIC / Michu / Bale
    Rvp / Tevez / Graham
    0.9 in the bank.

    Obviously i want to do this before the rises tonight, otherwise i would effectively lose 0.4 on this.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Just do Nzog to Pienaar (better option than Fellaini) for now. Fed, Guthrie and Clyne can be kept. Zabaleta (if he keeps his place) will do better than Rangel in the long term and probably in the next few fixtures too. Hazard can be got next week with a hit if required.

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      1. Round and Round
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        In fact, as you have 1.0 in the bank you dont even need a hit to get Hazard.

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      2. D1B
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I agree Pienaar is better, if i don't WC i would favour him over Fellani. Problem with doing Pienaar this week is that it would be for a hit. Already did Torres to RVP.

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    2. stooshermadness
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      No. At the end of the day, Zabaleta will have more CS than Rangel and Clyne and Demel are a toss. Guthrie looks nailed on, Kacaniklic is not. Just do Fellaini for N'Zogbia and chill.

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        You fixed you link I see, solid history, I reckon if you were a little bit riskier and had a little luck you could be a regular in the top 5k.

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        1. stooshermadness
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          My really good season came down to transfer discipline. It took a long time to come to the realization that most transfers chase last week's points. Plus pretty much no one watches as many games a week as I do. That said, I've already WC.

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      2. D1B
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I agree on Zab and Rangel long term. But a WC isn't a long term move. Will always make transfers through out the season.

        Kaca over Guthrie was a toss up, just because kaca is going to rise.

        Nzog to Fellani will leave me with only 0.7 in the bank, not enough to get Haz next week. So if i don't wc it would have to be Pienaar. Also would have to be for a hit.

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    3. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Personally I would not WC (at least wait until next week)

      NZog > Dyer for a hit (I'm guessing you have used your FT already) - Keep the WC in pocket and Swansea have 4 at home out of next 6 so tripling up on Swans is not without merit.

      I am considering the exact same move btw

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      1. D1B
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Why Dyer? I have no everton cover, and I have Michu and Graham for Swansea cover? Surely if trippling up on Swans it would be better to go for a defender.

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        1. @BigChrisso
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          I was using Dyer due to his price based on the assumption you want to get Hazard in for GW4. You will need to sell Valencia in order to do this and I think Hazard will be 10.1 at least by GW4.

          Unless you sell Bale for Hazard then you can get Pienaar or any other 6.5 range player.

          A defender from Swansea would make sense also but your backline looks OK to me?

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    4. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Got to be a way to get in Hazarrrr without WC
      Team isnt WC bad

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      1. D1B
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Well if He rises to 10 then I'm screwed. If not i can get him in for Valencia gw4 with Pienaar for a hit this week or Pienaar for a free gw5 (assuming his price doesn't rise and Nzog's doesnt drop).

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  3. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Right... nearly 2.00am again. I'm in trouble in the morning. All the best and sleep well 🙂

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    1. Minty
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Night Herr

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    2. Back to Back Ballacks
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Laters Forvetti

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Me too ... 😀

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  4. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    i just take a look into LK team and i admire him

    5 big defender

    completly different startegy than others and he doing so well

    i am impressed

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      1. stooshermadness
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        A friend in my minileague used to always carry at least 3 defenders from the 'top 4' (MUN/CHE/LIV/ARS) when those teams kept CS regularly 2007-10. We called it the 'Merritt Rule' after him. I think there is still something to it; it's not sexy but if you have 3 defenders from clubs keeping 16-18 CS, that's a lot of points over a season. I've got Zabaleta/Vermaelen and am thinking about getting in a CHE/MUN or even LIV (when the fixtures improve) defender.

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  5. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    FFS wish Hazard would stop rising, aint gettin him till next Sat, do we reckon 10m is gona me enough now?

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    1. Back to Back Ballacks
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      cant be more than 10 on sat

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      1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Thx man, one mistep undoing my best ever start to a season.. sooo frustrating.

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        1. Back to Back Ballacks
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          can't win em all 😉

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          1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            ............. Nope that didnt help. 🙂

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    2. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      he wont cot +10M

      i dont get why people jump at that badwagon when he have so manny games to play untill gw4

      daniel explained everything yesterday....one othe the best posts i've seen at FFS in quite some time

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        could you link me?

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          i dont know link 🙁

          he posted it yesterday

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          1. bdwhite91
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            No worries, thanks anyways!

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          2. stooshermadness
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            It's like some sort of fever. People must know - in their rationale minds - that Hazard cannot continue at this pace. It's not like Mata suddenly became crap. And Lampard is a proven FF performer. The only reason Hazard had a goal was because Lampard was rested. Yes, Hazard looks the real deal, but 0.5 price rise in 2 weeks ? F***ing crazy.

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 14 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Its panic stations for all those with poor rankings. Anything to get back in it would cause people to play their wild cards and get on the bandwagons that have established. Even Granville and Mark are doing this. It makes perfect sense to me and I may even do the same thing if I got off to a bad start.

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      2. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Is that because he can't rise by more than 0.3m in a week. It makes sense why he can't be more than 10m, simple stuff really.

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          still....if people are not at WC i dont see any solid reason why they buying him

          i will get him after gw3 for sure but i still dont get this madness

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          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            I agree. My strategy was to have enough money in the bank to buy him at 10m after the GW3 blank. TBF though a lot of people are playing their wild cards at the moment so its only natural to see his price go up.

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            1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Really? That many?

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              1. Ryan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                It would be interesting to see how many WC's have been played on the FPL home page

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                1. bdwhite91
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 6 months ago

                  Almost 152k lol

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        2. Crouch Potato!
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          If he gets returns v QPR, I would like him to score in a 2,1 defeat mind you, he will soon reach 11 mil.

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      3. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        What Hazard has already proven is that he is a class act, the bandwagon word is often misleading. My reason for getting him in has nothing to do with the actions of others. 9.8 is still a bargain for such an exciting talent, who will offer points potential each game.

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        1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Yea I will gladly pay 10m for a more explosive Silva.

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    3. Nepali Toon
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I'm getting him as soon as GW3 starts and his price rising with him having no game is ridiculous

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  6. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Linky? Yea man I agree although tbf he has pretty much been top scorer each week and only 'in theory' misses one gameweek. Sods law I get him next week and he is dropped .lol ooooh the paranoia.

    I got 147 without Hazard, anyone beat that? Mind you Bale cap last week so likely. 😉

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  7. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    does anyone playing mind games with your rivals like me?

    1st off all i get him to buy hazard and take 4pts hit and now he sold him for another 4pts hit 😆

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    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Nah, too easy like that. 🙂

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        well hazard score manny pts for him in last gw and now he have a blank

        that actually could be decent startegy after all 😉

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        1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Price changes are mental this yr, blink and you miss it, full time management! Im not getting paid for it, lol.

          Has it been mention if the price changes are different this term?

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  8. Nepali Toon
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is getting rid of Ivanovic for a hit even though i have 12 players starting madness?

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Depends on who you have starting. I sold him for a hit in order to afford Hazard in GW4 and so that I don't have to play Fabio(MCI) or Clyne(MUN) in GW3

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Oh and to afford RVP of course. Its all relative depending on your team and intentions

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      2. Nepali Toon
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I'll have to start 3 of these defenders:
        Boyce
        Shawcross
        Mccartney
        Hangeland
        and they are playing each other

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        1. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Definately, definately dont take a hit to get rid of Ivanovic. Play Boyce, Hangeland and Shawcross.

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          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            ^^This

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    2. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yes. You want him in your team weeks 4 & 5.

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    3. Nepali Toon
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks guys, no hit then

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  9. McDog
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Yaya Toure or Nasri?
    Need to sell Mata and those 2 look like the best options.

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Kagawa is the best option for next 2 weeks. Nasri after that. Yaya is guranteed game time but pretty sure he will get limited to a deeper role once Mancini realises they cant keep conceding 2 goals a week.

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      1. McDog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers. I already have 3 United so I can't get Kagawa. I prefer Nasri but I'm worried about his gametime and potential rotation with Silva.

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        1. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          A chepaer option looks good too. Newcastle have a good run of 4 games now so HBA may be a better option than both of these. Would also consider Pienaar and McClean

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          1. McDog
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Ben Arfa is another one I'm considering and I have Pienaar. Thanks again 🙂

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yaya, for me. Seems more nailed on and comes up with the odd goal. Cheaper, too, I believe (too lazy to check).

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    3. JC Lopez
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yaya!

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    4. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      yaya is surely safrer option for long run

      i have nasri at this moment but witll tarsnsfer him out for hazard after gw3

      perssonaly i wouldn't touch city MF cause yaya got lucky in first 2gws and he isn't good fpl player

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        "yaya got lucky in first 2gws and he isn’t good fpl player"

        That's a mighty ambitious statement, there.

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          i am big yaya fan but i just dont rate him as good fpl player

          dont get me wrong....he is brilliant but he play as defesive midfilder after all

          yes he can chip in with goal and assist now and then but he wont constanty produce pts in my opinion

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          1. Gaz Downright
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            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            I think you have been asleep in class. He is not a DMC, he is whatever Mancini asks him to be. If he is asked to stay back, he will break up play, cover the defenders and spread passes like a play maker. If asked to play in a more advanced roll, like the last 25 minutes versus LFC, he is deadly.

            So it all comes down to how the City team pans out. I agree though, that right now he seems to be one or two steps away from being in the "perfect midfield 5". But we all know that changes from fortnight to fortnight.

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        2. Round and Round
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Tbh I agree with Forca here. Yaya is not great fantasy material considering the likes of Pienaar, McClean, Michu and HBA are all cheaper.

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          1. King Eric, in America
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Oh, I agree ... but the question was Yaya or Nasri. I'd rather a consistent Yaya than a hit-or-miss Nasri.

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      2. McDog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah I'm not too excited by either of them, but my only other options are Cazorla and Ben Arfa. I would get VDV/Siggy If I knew which one was going to play.

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  10. FantasyFreak
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Hazard price is getting ridiculous. Now I need to take a hit to bring him in after GW3.

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    1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I feel ya man.... could be 10.3 by next time he plays, or close to.

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      1. JC Lopez
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        How? I don't see it being that high. Maybe 10...but not more than that.

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        1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Near enough 14 days til he plays again... he has gone up .3 in 4 days.

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          1. JC Lopez
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            mmmm...I am nore sure how much more he is going to go up. I am hoping that all the transfers in are already priced in...I hope I am not wrong.
            Personally, I am expecting another 0.2 jump by early GW4. If he gets to 10 too soon, then I am taking him for a hit.

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            1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Read my moan above, I dont have him, so there be at least one, lol.

              Its limited to .3 per week or maybe your right if its .3 per 'gameweek'. Bare in mind he is nearly at 200% now and there are 14 days to go, seems feasible he will rise more than .2 between now n then. Is he due a rise tonight aswell or was last night the last one?

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              1. JC Lopez
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                He is due to go up again tonight...

                So if there is a limit of 0.3 per week, then he won't go higher than 10.0 by early GW4, right? Or did I misunderstand?

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          2. megatronaldinho
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            peeps are limited to .3 increase per gameweek (unless they changed the rules) . after the deadline he shud start to rise again, but one can take th plunge early.

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            1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Now watch him come back injured from the IB... He has an international I presume?

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              1. megatronaldinho
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                think so. an injury wud be welcomed by the patient and the skittish tho

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                1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 6 months ago

                  But I and many including myself will have to get him in before the friendly ie this Sat to avoid yet another price hike. No protection from a poss injury, will end up in the same boat as peeps who had him from the start.

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                  1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 6 months ago

                    Me myself and I, doh.

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                  2. megatronaldinho
                    • 15 Years
                    13 years, 6 months ago

                    aye. tis one of those risks. likely in same boat myself. if he gets injured i'll either wildcard or shoot myself. possibly both

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Bring him in week 4 without a hit, I'd say. Take a hit, erase a goal.

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      1. JC Lopez
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        That is what I am doing...bring him in vey early in week 4.

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      2. FantasyFreak
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        But the most expensive mid I have atm is Bale, which has a selling price of 9.5 only. I have no fund left in bank which means I would need to downgrade one of my def/forward to fund for Hazard.
        But well, 4 points hit, for Hazard, I guess it's worthy. (Well, I'm ust trying to console myself.)

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          I think you misunderstand me (and I meant GW5, not 4, so my mistake, there) ... make a trade for GW4 to put money in your bank, then get Hazard for week 5.

          Sure, he could get another load of points to make that -4 not so bad, but it erases one goal scored of his to pay for the hit. Why not wait the week with Bale (Tot play Reading) and just pick up Hazard the next week?

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          1. FantasyFreak
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Wow, this actually makes sense. The only problem is I am concerned about his price rise between GW4 to GW5. Almost everyone is getting him now,and if I don't get him on GW4, his price might be over 10.0.
            What do you think? Do you have Hazard? I appreciate your advise, seriously considering it now.

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            1. King Eric, in America
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              I don't have Hazard (I had Lampard) - my team linked - my 250k ranked advice is that you'll trade for someone GW4 that gives a 'cushion' larger than the 0.3 max/week increase of Hazard's price at that time - if that makes sense.

              Bale has one or two weeks left for me before I ditch his arse.

              Bale is more nailed on, I believe. RDM might be crazy to take Hazard out ... but with that midfield, he'll always look possible to be rested. Grain of salt though.

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          2. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Thats what Im doing, I have Bale now, if I transferred him out for hazard fodder would have to play. Not wanting that, although if I had known it was gona go this Bat shit I would have taken the plunge and hit earlydoors.

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            1. King Eric, in America
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Ahhh ... me too

              *raises hand*

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              1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                I wish this game didn't bother me soo much... Sighs*

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                1. King Eric, in America
                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 6 months ago

                  It's like golf ... it can be sooooo frustrating even when you're doing things 'right' - - - but when it goes well: Noice.

                  *pause*

                  I guess we're both as sick, eh?

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              2. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                +0.6m

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                1. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 6 months ago

                  Would seem so.

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      i left 1.8M in bank cause i seen it comming

      bale/nasri>hazard after gw3

      4pts hit to get season keeper in are not bad as well 😉

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  11. RoyaleBlue
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    how many points will tevez get next week in people opinions

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    1. JC Lopez
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I am hoping for 9 to 11.

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      He'll be my captain, most likely. Hoping for at least 6 from him.

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    3. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      6+bonus.
      QPR to spring a surprise strong performance but ultimately lose 2-1.

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    4. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      6 against Sou, 12 against Liv. So 18 versus QPR.

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      1. Minty
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Or 24, depends what pattern you're following. I prefer mine 🙂

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        1. Scoredelario
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          The pattern is times ten minus 48. So he will get 72 this week.

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    5. Nepali Toon
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Tevez (c) this week so wouldn't mind a hattrick

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  12. Nepali Toon
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    But there's a new RB in town

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  13. FantasyFreak
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone getting Jelavic?

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Not this week. Have Bent and looking to sell next week so Jelavic is high among my list of replacements

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    2. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      had him since the start

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      it was jelly+kagawa or rvp+fellaini this week for me

      and iv'e gone for rvp+fellaini

      i might made another big mistake i am afraid

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    4. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      yes not yet. but

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  14. Ryan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I see that 152,000 wild cards have been played. It appears that that prior to GW2. It wouldn't surprise me if this number went up to 500,000 (1/4) as a result of people playing their wild cards this week.

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    1. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Where can you see this stuff?

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      1. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Status page

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      2. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Go to the status tab on your FPL page

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  15. Nepali Toon
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    But there's a new RB that Chelsea bought, could limit his playing time

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think you're not hitting the correct 'reply' button.

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      1. Nepali Toon
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Or my phone is just crap

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          😆

          I guess that could be, too. I meant no offense, I just wasn't sure you knew what was happening ... sometimes I mean to reply to a post and hit 'post comment' instead of 'reply' ... then I don't see my reply, so I do it again. Just trying to be helpful.

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          1. Nepali Toon
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            No worries

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  16. JasonThatOneKid
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    How much will Hugo Lloris cost if he signs for spurs? 5.5? He prob will start ahead of friedel

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    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      id say 6mil

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    2. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah probably £5.5m. Don't see why they'd increase the price on a Spurs goalie considering they've looked leaky so far.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        friedel better sign for another premiership side quick lest his run of never missing a premiership game for 10 years (or whatever it is) ends.

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  17. Scoredelario
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I think we can all agree that nzogbia out, Ben arfa in is worth a 4 pt hit?

    I'm gonna do it regardless, having nzogbia in my team is like having drunken sex with a humungous old lady with horrible BO....

    Forget waiting for the washing machine to be free... Those bed sheets need to be BINNED!

    Disclaimer: this analogy is not from personal experience

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    1. Uncle_Sams_Army
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Sure why not

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      1. Uncle_Sams_Army
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Wow just realized that was not my team linked 🙂 Fixed.. phew.

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    2. Minty
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      For some reason I just really can't seem to get excited about Ben Arfa, I always think he's one substitution away from having a massive sulk. In my opinion he's not consistent enough.

      And it always helps if you put a disclaimer at the beginning otherwise it looks liek its something you've tagged on when you realise it sounds too much like personal experience

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +1 on the first paragraph.

        Ah, hell, +1 on the second, too. 😛

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      2. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        He's patchy alright but if you're going to get him now's the time. He's looked good so far and Villa have been hopeless.

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      3. Scoredelario
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        1. Yeah but in less than half a season's worth of minutes he got over 100 pts so the stats are compelling

        2. Is that from personal experience? 😀

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          The first half of last season he was often on the bench with Raylor and Orbatan given the nod instead. When given a consistent run in the team he is simply brilliant. For his price I think he is well worth it as a fantasy asset, although for a hit, perhaps not.

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      4. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I think it's worth it just for this week. I got him on the rise too. If he does something, mass transfers in, and more monies for my wildcard xD

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    3. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      How much had you to drink when you slept with the bag-lady? Sorry, I meant when you bought N'zog.

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      1. Scoredelario
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        She was my first time.

        Sorry

        He was in my initial team. Freudian slip.

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        1. Alan The Llama
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          If it's good enough for Wayne.

          In answer to your initial question, I'd take the hit for HBA. I'm a little concerned about having no Newcastle attack this weekend.

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    4. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I feel bad for you having Charles and a price drop lol. I had Bent...

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  18. eratrius
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Adebayor to start gw3? Or likely to come on in second half?

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    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      spurs need goals id say he'll start

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    2. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yes. I think Defoe will start too and vdv will be benched. Just my opinion.

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  19. Gaz Downright
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    For the season.

    a) Hazard + Tevez
    b) Pienaar + RVP
    c) Hazard + Torres

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Hmmm, I'd say a) personally. It's definitely between a) and b). Eggs in one basket and all that.

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    2. Spiritof76
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Gotta be A. If Everton keep playing like a top 4 team until December and Rooney gets a gash to the thigh every 2 weeks, then maybe B?

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    3. Billy Ketsu
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      A for me but for now, not the season. No idea what's going tio happen next weekend, let alone months from now.

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    4. D1B
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      a) But hopefully you have Kagawa too.

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    5. Nepali Toon
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      A would be the answer unless the RVP of last season returns

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    6. zan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      C

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    7. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Tevez, Pienaar, Hazard/Torres, RVP/Kagawa

      Try and get all 4 I reckon

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  20. robdag
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Fellaini or Pienaar?

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    1. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pienaar.

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    2. Reed_Rothchild
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pienaar. Fellaini won't play the Cahill role much longer.

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      1. Spiritof76
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I've heard several folks say something like this. Why do you suppose he'll drop back?

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    3. zan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pienaar

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  21. Crouch Potato!
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Faurlin a few games from his return, great news, if he finds his old form will be a massive bonus.

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    1. Nepali Toon
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      He is a good player in real world but what were his FPL returns like last season before the injury

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Wouldn't be the Fpl choice, however, Taraabt played very well with him, should also benefit Hoilett also.

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  22. Kendog
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I guess i need to get hazard in as soon as gameweek 3 starts... i have 0.5bank.

    ddg, hendo

    zabaleta, ivanovic, clyne, demel, baker

    cazorla, bale, michu, benarfa, el ahmadi

    rvp, graham, tevez

    Bale > HAZARD no hit (depending on his game against Norwich)

    OR

    Cazorla > HAZ (with a hit and another transfer)

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    1. Kendog
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Do i need a grav for ppl to reply?

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      1. Nepali Toon
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        You've answered yourself in your question

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        1. Kendog
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          no grav and youve still replied 🙂

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          1. Nepali Toon
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            I meant your original post

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        2. Alan The Llama
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah, you have. Wait and see how Bale does. If he doesn't score highly this gw, I wouldn't hold on to him.

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  23. blue cheese
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Morning all. 🙂

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    1. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Morning 🙂

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    2. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      hey Nitin

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    3. Desertbug
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Morning 🙂 Well, actually 7 pm here, but G'morning anyway.

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    4. Nepali Toon
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Good morning nitin

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    5. Injury Prone o_O Gooner.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Mornin'

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    6. MICHELIN
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Morning. Soon starting to get some sleep here though.

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  24. NATSTER
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Still too early to lose patience on Bale? He usually do well when playing teams below 10, right?
    Want Kagawa but it will be a hit to swap Bale to him. I don't think it's worth though..

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    1. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Give Bale one more chance against Norwich.

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah bale > Kagawa for a hit isn't worth it imo

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    3. Kendog
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      how? bale is more expeno

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      1. bdwhite91
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        hit as in points, not difference in price.

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  25. Scoredelario
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Note to all based on previous season's trends...

    I am captaining a Manchester city player therefore he (tevez) will be benched.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      It's so going to happen, knowing Mancini, If it does I'm selling all of my Man city players for good, I don't know why I somehow forgot about it all when originally picking my team.

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    2. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      and then your vice captain will score 30, and some random person off your bench will get a brace and a clean sheet lol

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  26. Ryan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Michu will rise 0.3 in 3 days. Amazing. Will this put the 0.3 max rise theory to the test? or is the threshold for another rise so high that its 'normally' impossible for it to be reached

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      It was tested last week. It holds good.

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  27. murr23
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    What do people think of this Wildcard option??

    Current:
    DDG / Federici
    COLE / ZABALETA / STEVENS / Demel / Hangeland
    KAGAWA / NZOGBIA / ROBSON-KANU / Bale / Kacaniklic
    GRAHAM / Tevez / Torres

    Wildcard:
    BEGOVIC / Federici
    RAFAEL / CUELLER / CLYNE / Demel / Hangeland
    PIENAAR / CAZORLA / DYER / Bale / Kacaniklic
    RVP / Tevez / Torres

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    1. Kendog
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Finally a WC without HAZ. Yay for pricing

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    2. MICHELIN
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I don't really know if you need to WC with that team.
      You already have Kagawa, Torres, Tevez, Graham, Bale and decent defense.
      Max one transfer and you have ok squad to field for GW3 imo.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +1

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      2. Saint & Reevesy
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        thats a man talking sense....... +1

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Have you clicked for a wildcard already?

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      1. murr23
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        No click yet. I'd brought in Kagawa for Mata earlier today already. Just worried about the dead wood in Stevens, RobsonKanu and maybe NZog and then too much in expensive shaky defences. I'm in 2 minds!

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Don't wildcard in my opinion...just make two smart transfers for a hit maybe

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  28. MICHELIN
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Hello,
    I would appreciate any advice on my next move.
    My current team is:

    Schwarzer (Federici)
    Demel Baines Lescott Tierney (Gorkss)
    Noble Maloney Michu Silva Bale
    Tevez (Torres Pogrebnyak)
    with 4.4. in bank

    As I am 90 % sure that Tierney won't get any points this round or most likely at any round in the near future, I will take a 4pt hit and transfer him out now. Would you bring in
    A) Rangel/Williams and be prepared to bring Hazard/Kagawa in for Silva/Bale in GW4
    B) a 4.5 defender and be prepared to bring Kagawa in for Noble/Maloney in GW4
    Thanks for any thoughts!

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    1. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Primary concerns are Silva and lescott imo, although maybe wait til after gw3 since it is such a nice game,

      So that would mean they're not your primary concerns.

      OK I'll shut up!

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      1. MICHELIN
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers mate. 🙂

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    2. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      A in my humble opinion.

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    3. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      a for me.

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      1. MICHELIN
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers!
        A it is then.

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  29. Gaz Downright
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    So according to totalfpl we will see a drop on 53 players today. They need to work out that part of their site.

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    1. Scratch
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      It's always been like that on TFPL... for players falling below starting value you can rarely rely on it.

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      hope some Midfielders drop to 4.2-4M and become new Fergie

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  30. Bunji
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I hate wildcarding so early but I panicked. Worth it for these trades?

    Ivan -> Baines
    Hangeland -> Clyne
    Bale -> Hazard
    Cazorla -> Yaya
    N'Zogbia -> Pienaar
    Torres -> RVP

    I'm 50/50 at the moment, I just want to catch the rise on Hazard before he shoots up to 10! I know I don't have Spurs cover but I'd rather have Hazard and RVP long term..

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    1. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      you really dont need to worry about getting hazard in if you have torres. nzog to pienaar and cazorla to kagawa is all you need to do.

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      1. Bunji
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Look at my team and you'll see my deficiencies at the back. Cuellar has Swansea away while Demel and Hangeland have each other.. and I WANT RVP.

        So many decisions..

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    2. AB.
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Looks knee-jerky to me. You could make a reasonable case for hanging on to any of the players that you are proposing to transfer out. Resist the temptation - there will be better opportunities to use your wildcard later in the season!

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    3. Scoredelario
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      No not worth it at all imo.

      My advice is plan ahead for a wildcard. If you know WHEN you'll wildcard it means you can make short term transfers based on immediate fixtures in the preceding weeks.

      Unless your team is completely destroyed by injuries or a nice dgw cones up, just take a couple of hits.

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      1. AB.
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Agreed.

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    4. robdag
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Have you played it already?

      If not, I would hold off. Just make NZog ---> Pienaar this week and bench your two Chelsea players. Then decide who to sell for Hazard before GW4.

      I wouldn't do Cazorla --> Yaya. Yaya will play a more holding position.
      I wouldn't do Hanageland --> Clyne. Sot defence has been pretty bad

      I would keep Torres and Ivan for now on their form and also cheaper than Baines/RVP.

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