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24 September 2012 2298 comments
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Having splashed the cash on Eden Hazard and Oscar over the summer, Chelsea’s attacking midfield options looked mouth-watering going into the new season. The prospect of the pair lining up with Juan Mata behind Fernando Torres suggested a change in the Blues’ playing style but until last weekend the trio of number 10 types had failed to feature together from the start in any competition.

While Hazard has made an instant impact this season, Mata and Oscar have been used tentatively by Roberto Di Matteo after a summer of Olympic activity with Spain and Brazil respectively. As they both start to approach full match-fitness, Di Matteo unleashed the pair alongside Hazard for the visit of Stoke on Saturday. A late Ashley Cole finally broke the stubborn Stoke resistance as the Blues earned a narrow 1-0 win and, post-match, the Chelsea manager admitted the trio will require plenty more game time together in order to build up an understanding:

“It’s the first time we have tried it, it certainly needs more work and practice, to tactically integrate them into our system. I thought today it worked very well, but it will take time for them to know each other better. I want them to have mobility and rotation, they are very intelligent at finding free space, we lacked a bit of width at times so we needed our full backs to provide us with that.”

The average position map from the Stoke game (below left) sums up Di Matteo’s words perfectly. Mata (10), Oscar (11), Hazard (17) and Fernando Torres (9, obscured) were all in virtually identical positions when in possession. Interchanging positions, dropping deep and foraging forward, the three attacking midfielders ensured Chelsea had plenty of possession in the final third of the pitch; the hosts had 281 touches in this crucial area compared to 204 in the previous home match against Newcastle (below right).

Indeed, looking at the Magpies showdown, the player positions were a lot more defined. Mata’s (10) tendency to drift inside when on the ball is in direct opposition to his replacement Ramires (7) in that Gameweek 2 match. With Ryan Bertrand (34) offering natural width on the left, the 4-2-3-1 formation is far more apparent. Di Matteo’s remark on the full-backs is also reflected in both maps – Branislav Ivanovic (2) and Ashley Cole (3) were far more prominent in attack in the Stoke game (left), foraging forward and offering balance on the flanks.

Mins/TchTouches Final 3rdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdDribblesPen Area TchsChance CrtdGoal Attmpts
Mata155322553
Oscar1.150273325
Hazard1.145301221

Looking at the stats of the attacking midfield three from Saturday, what’s immediately apparent is that they are almost identical for minutes per touch, with Mata judging edging in with one every minute. Despite his substitute withdrawal just after the hour mark, Hazard’s stats still stand up well in comparison to the other two here – indeed, he received only two less passes in the final third than Mata, despite playing almost half an hour less than the Spaniard. There’s no doubt his display was less than sparkling; he made the fewest dribbles and had the least number of goal attempts against Stoke but Hazard’s creativity saw him provide two goalscoring opportunities for team mates; the same number as Oscar, who managed the full game.

Hazard Gameweek 1-4 v Gameweek 5
Hazard’s Fantasy owners may be a little concerned after his home blank last weekend. The Belgian was our Captain Poll favourite for Gameweek 5 but lasted just 62 minutes before making way for Victor Moses as Di Matteo chose to rest the Belgian after the midweek Champions League match with Juventus. A look at his average positions in the first five Gameweeks (below left), however, show that he was actually further forward when on the ball last weekend than in any match so far. It’s also reflected in the stats – although Hazard averaged 87.8 minutes over his first four matches, he was more involved in Chelsea’s play against the Potters.

MinsTouches Final 3rdMins/ TouchMins/ Pass RcvdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdDribblesPen Area TchsMin/Chance CrtdGoal Attempts
Hazard GW 562451.11.7301331.11
Hazard GW1-487.8361.31.821.24.55.835.13

He managed 45 touches in the final third on Saturday, bettering his Gameweek 1-4 average of 36, while the Belgian was also on the ball more often – 1.1 minutes per touch to 1.3. Hazard also received 30 passes in the final third against Stoke, well up on his previous average of 21.2. The issue here, though, is that while his overall team involvement improved, his individual stats regressed. A single successful dribble was way down on the 4.5 per game, just three touches in the box versus 5.8, and one shot at goal compared to the average of three – Hazard needs to perhaps rediscover his selfish streak a little more rather than get caught up in intricate passing patterns.

Mata Gameweek 1-4 v Gameweek 5
As the average position map shows (above right), Mata was further forward on Saturday than in any of his previous Gameweeks. His stats are alarmingly better and suggests the Spaniard could well be set for a resurgence in such a system. In his previous matches, Mata played a more withdrawn role, allowing Hazard to wreak havoc but last weekend his role took a significant turn for the better.

MinsTouches Final 3rdMins/ TouchMins/ Pass RcvdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdDribblesPen Area TchsMin/Chance CrtdGoal Attempts
Mata GW 5895511.5322517.83
Mata GW1-478.3231.11.3171358.81.3

In the attacking final third, Mata had 55 touches and received 32 passes against Stoke – his averages across the first four Gameweeks were 23 and 17 respectively. He made double the number of dribbles, found his way into the box more (five touches to three). In terms of creativity, he provided a goalscoring opportunity every 17.8 minutes against the Potters, compared to his previous average of 58.8 minutes and Mata also fired three shots at goal in the Gameweek 5 win – again, a real improvement on his 1.3 average.

It’s an intriguing turn of events that may well bring Mata back onto the Fantasy radar. Both he and Hazard began the Fantasy Premier League season priced at 9.5 but while the Belgian has soared to 10.3, Mata has dropped down to 8.9. The signs are certainly promising – indeed, Mata supplied the assist for Cole’s winner – if Di Matteo gives the trio regular outings together.

Full Backs Gameweek 1-4 v Gameweek 5

Finally, a quick look at the full-back stats. As the average position maps highlight, both Ivanovic (left) and Cole (right) were further forward against Stoke than they managed in any other Gameweek.

The comparison for both players in Gameweek 5 against their Gameweek 1-4 averages clearly indicates how the pair’s potential for attacking points could be further increased. Although both players actually saw less of the ball overall, Ivanovic made 29 touches on the Stoke final third, up on his previous average of 18.2. He also received more passes in this area, by 21 to 12.2, while the right-back produced more crosses and saw more of the ball in the box. The same applies to Cole in all the above categories. More touches (23 to 15) and passes received in the final third (15 to nine), more crosses and touches in the box, with the left-back slotting home the late winner.

Mins/TouchTouches Final 3rdPasses Rcvd Final 3rdPen Area TchsCrosses
Ivanovic GW 51.5292164
Ivanovic GW1-41.218.212.22.83.8
Cole GW 51.5231532
Cole GW1-41.315911.2

It may well be that Di Matteo uses such a system in more straightforward home games as it clearly asks more from the pair from an attacking perspective – such a formation away from home could leave the Blues exposed on the flanks if the pair bomb forward as they did against Stoke. Their contribution will be key to the system, though, and if the Blue can continue the defensive resolve that has already accrued four clean sheets in the first five, Ivanovic and Cole – already first and second in the FPL defender rankings – could well maintain their strong showings as Chelsea continue to evolve.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    two questions:

    1) how long til price changes?
    2) ba berb or lambert as my graham replacement?

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      20min, Ba

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      1. tw
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        thanks. even if i have hba?

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          both just delivered last weekend?

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    2. gdog2244
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      berb

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    3. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      TW i really think it would serve you well to react more quickly to market forces. graham died what seems like months ago. this bloody new sh1t forces you to jump early, lunacy being what it is. i'm on early transfers until at leaat halfway through

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
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        i've had more pressing transfers to make than getting rid of graham plus wanted to give him a shot with his nice fixtures and wanted a couple weeks to evaluate who his best replacement would be

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  2. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    team linked...

    How do i look?
    just did>ade>RVP

    how can i get baines in???

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    1. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
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      Take some hits?

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  3. Ryan
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Controversial topic.

    What if the two Manchester clubs become rotation nightmares this season, particularly their forwards?

    Its entirely feasible that both clubs pay much attention to the CL campaign as each look to ensure they get out of the group and do well in the knock out stages. Added to the fact that both clubs have a combined total of 8 very good strikers its not hard to imagine Tevez, Aguero, RVP and Rooney being benched on occasion.

    So what does this mean for us? are we satisfied if our big hitting strikers play 4 in every 5 games? or would we rather have a forward line that possess quality strikers who play every game such as Berbatov, Ba, Lambert, Fletcher etc. It could also be argued that the likes of Yaya and Valencia will provide more consistent nailed on Manchester attacking cover particularly during the congested winter period.

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      RVP 5 goals in 3 games, Tevez just rested last game, I keep him for season

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        keep them

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    2. gdog2244
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      all great points but when that 50 percent ownership of tevez gets 20 pts from him it will be a big red arrow

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        this, he has highest ownership, i wont touch him atm

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      2. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I guess I'm not talking about immediate plans to sell. Just something to think about long term over the next month or so IF the manchester clubs become a rotation nightmare.

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      3. megatronaldinho
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        yeah assuming that they captain him or, if not, expecting that the surfeit of other options facilitated by his absence all hit blanks together. might wanna look up the word hyperbole guy. and it ain't when a gaucho throws more than one bola

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It's hardly controversial but I know what you're getting at. It's a bit blasphemous right now to forego at least one of these strikers. And it probably will be like that all season. It's going to cause the most headaches knowing what to do and which ones to have. I'm struggling on my Wildcard to know what to do. Do I get RVP and compromise the rest of my team...do I just stick with Tevez...or do I get Aguero in as a differential. Or do I just stick with the Tevez/RVP combo everyone has. Right now I have Tevez Fletcher Ba and I'm thinking of swapping out one for Berbatov later. I might just leave myself enough to do the RVP/Aguero moves.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
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        Personally I would rather have RVP who is the lead goal scorer (reason enough for SAF to keep him in the starting team) and have Yaya as City coverage who is nailed on.

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    4. SC not pearls before swine
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Tevez is cheap enough that I'm happy to hold for now, although I've never considered him untouchable. If Silva gets consistent starts I may go for him. RVP I am very worried about but Chicharito and Welbeck are not as good as he is, so I hope he'll get enough starts that his exorbitant price will be worth it, especially given that none of United's midfield options look ownable right now.

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        yeah. tevez is great value and isn't too expensive so you can handle it easier if he's benched.

        yes but rooney has quality. i could see rvp being rested with rooney and one of the other two playing

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        1. Ryan
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          This just demonstrates the problem. Why not get someone like Ba instead who will play EVERY game.

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          1. OPTA FPL
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            every game? he was on the bench vs Everton

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            1. Ryan
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              • 14 Years
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              TBF I'd say he is fairly nailed on now with his current form.

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          2. Henry Hill
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            But Ba didn't start against Everton last week 😉

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          3. tw
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            every game when he's not at ACON 😉

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          4. Ryan
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            • 14 Years
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            Bad example. Lamber/Berba then

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            1. SC not pearls before swine
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Because really, best case scenario for Berbs/Lambert, they score 15-20 goals this season, most likely scenario they're in the 12-15 range. Van Persie should get at least 25, with the potential of 35-40. I think you're right that he's not a must own because if he is regularly rotated against weaker sides and he only ends up at about 25 goals he's just not worth his price. But he does have the potential to be worth it IMO>

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              1. Ryan
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Of course he has the potential. This is an interesting discussion as it seems people are willing to put up with rotating a 13m striker. I find this rather surprising.

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    5. stooshermadness
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      RvP was an anomaly last year in terms of minutes played. If you look at the top scoring FF forwards, they don't start more than 24-30 games. Aguero had 211 points in ~2500 min last year; Tevez had 185 and 210 points in ~2500 and ~2800 min a couple of years ago. Take a look at Rooney's min over the last 5 years. Still a lot of FF points even with ~2100 min.

      I think MUN and MNC will likely be the top scoring teams this year and for consistent goals and 5-6 huge returns, I think you've got to keep a RvP or Tevez or Aguero in your team, despite the rotation frustration. The key is to try to read the tea leaves and not captain them when they wind up with a 10 min cameo.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Fair point this. Well said.

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        1. Ryan
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          However in saying that both clubs didn't have Tevez (awol) and RVP. I would expect less minutes this year for the key strikers as a result.

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          1. stooshermadness
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            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I have RvP and Tevez but I could be persuaded to swap out RvP if he is subject to 1 in 3 game rotation. His price means he's probably only worth it if he gets 28-30 starts.

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            1. Ryan
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              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              I think its worth having one of the two at this stage but its becoming increasingly debatable if its worth having both. No doubt we will know more as a result of the starting lineups around the next CL fixture.

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              1. stooshermadness
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                • 16 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                You made a point about Yaya as MNC cover somewhere here tonight and I have him as well. If I need cash it'll probably be Tevez that goes assuming both are only subject to occasional spot rotation.

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  4. Kazza_
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Urgent help please....if I take a 4 point hit then WC do I get the 4points back?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      YES

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    2. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      yes

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      1. Kazza_
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks guys just done my trfs I got ba & pienar for toress & Malony

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  5. blue cheese
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Morning people.

    Dyer > Fellaini / Pienaar.

    Yay or nay?

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    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      morning nitin! how's it going?

      yay

      btw who do you prefer of ba, berb and lambert?

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hi TW. Since you have HBA, I'd say Berba.

        Isacki gave him a glowing report from the Wigan match which he went to watch.

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        1. tw
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          oh he did? too bad i missed the report! good points, thanks mate.

          but man this decision is tough, keep going back and fourth

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          1. blue cheese
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Yeah, that third striker spot is a right headache. Fletcher, Defoe, Jelavic good options too ...

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            1. tw
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              jelly is injured i believe. and ive already got baines + pie for my everton coverage

              fletcher and defoe also good shouts but i'm down to berb vs ba and can't make up my bloody mind! got 3 min to decide though

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              1. blue cheese
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Do it now! Price changes happen between 3:15 and 3:20

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                1. tw
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  computer froze up for a sec so wasn't able to make my changes :(. oh well.... its only .1 and gives me another day to decide

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    2. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      YAY its time to make the doughnuts

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Do it before prices change

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yep did it, Ruk.

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  6. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Alreet lads

    As the WC team I have my eye on is not price sensitive, and there is little or no chance of making any money at this late stage, I am going to hold off my WC, at least for a day or two. Yesterday I was convinced I was going to do it. Today I am not so sure. My current thinking is that I can take a hit or two to set me up until the international break, then sort it out then. What do you reckon? Have we got one or two more weeks before the break?

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    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      not sure on your team but my guess is you can put off the wc at least til the international break if not later, unless its really a mess

      btw what do you think of ba? worth getting in alongside hba? need to replace graham and leaning towards ba but also considering berb and lambert

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I think that Ba is a great option. If Mrs China Mag didn't have him, I would probably get him in myself, even though I have barfa. I think the fact that we are continuing two play two strikers, even though one of them is way off form (dave) suggests that Ba is in there for the long haul. We have really nice fixtures coming up from GW9 as well

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I think its a good plan to hold off. By then you will have a better idea on the big hitting striker/midfield situation.

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  7. Anderson
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hey all!!

    I have 1 ft and 1.9 mil in bank!
    I really wan to get rid of Rangel! can't see any CS anytime soon.

    a) Taylor (new)
    b) Rafa ( united)
    c) anyone else????

    can't afford baines - 0.2 off 🙁

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    1. Anderson
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      have ridgewell and Gibbs!

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      1. stooshermadness
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        (b) Rafael
        c) someone who rotates well with Ridgewell.

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    2. Hitman MHK
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Pineaar on the bench... 🙁
      Maybe B, seems that you have Gibbs already

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  8. boney
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    morning gents.

    can i say that Silva is coming back to his form? thinking of ditching tevez for him so that i could bring in demba ba & duffy (for guthrie)

    thoughts appreciated. thanks!

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      still doing nothing

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    2. Hitman MHK
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Didn't do anything spectacular vs Arsenal.
      My bet would be Cazorla! 🙂

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  9. Hitman MHK
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hey gents, price rises fairly soon. Not sure which is the best option...
    Already got Foster in goal so maybe double West Brom isn’t the best choice…
    Thanks 🙂

    1)
    THIS WEEK: Zabaleta –> McAuley
    NEXT WEEK: Guthrie –> Ramirez/Lallana
    2)
    THIS WEEK: Zabaleta –> Koscielny/Sagna
    NEXT WEEK: Kacaniklic –> Ramirez/Lallana
    3)
    THIS WEEK: Zabaleta –> McAuley
    NEXT WEEK: Kacaniklic –> Nolan
    4)
    THIS WEEK: Hangeland –> Hughes/Lowton
    THIS WEEK: Kacaniklic –> Pienaar
    NEXT WEEK: Zabaleta –> Koscielny/Sagna

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  10. megatronaldinho
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    fukk it. since we're on a new page here's some mike portnoy. last time's immortal technique not reaching adequate heartage, i'ma chalk it down to racism. see chalk. anywho i expect a white guy will fare better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7oH6Ku27Us

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  11. blue cheese
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I guess you lot already know it.

    For those who don't, Rooney expected to be on the bench against Newcastle in the League Cup match. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2208073/Wayne-Rooney-set-Manchester-United-return-Newcastle.html

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Initially I panicked as a RVP owner but on second thought it would make sense to ease him into action with sub roles for the cup game and the PL game, ready in time for him to start in the CL fixture.

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, the article says "outside chance" anyway. So, I guess RVP should be safe for the next 2-3 matches atleast.

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        1. stooshermadness
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          For what's worth, RvP is probalby safe as the No.1 choice as striker all season. The guy in danger with Rooney's return is Kagawa, in the hole behind RvP. If/when RvP is rotated it will be Hernandez or Wellbeck.

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          1. Ryan
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            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I would agree with this. The competition for RVP's spot will come from sub appearances by the likes of Chico and Welbeck. I'd say RVP is more nailed on than Tevez but its a close one.

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          2. blue cheese
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            You never know. Rooney might start the odd match up front with Kagawa behind him. In essence, I agree that RVP should get the most minutes out of those 3.

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      kagawa.. you're out of my team!

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  12. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    ba or berb?

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Berb. Close call though

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    2. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Berba for me.

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    3. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      In my opinion berba's fixtures aren't good enough to play him every game. So either rotate berba with a southamption mid (or maloney), or get ba!!

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        can't i rotate him with marveaux? 😉

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    4. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Gw7 berb

      Now ba

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  13. NATSTER
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Price changes

    Rise: A.Cole, Rafael ; Ben Arfa, Pienaar ; Ba

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    1. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Fall:
      Torres, Dyer, Nasri, Kolarov, Giroud, Holt, Bardsley, Taarabt, Kompany, Parker, Enrique, Walker,

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      1. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Gutierrez falls too

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    2. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Get in Rafael Peanut...

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Wow I have all of them 😉

      😀

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Sod off, you wildcarding git! 😉

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      2. Phaze 1
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Your team value is so low

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    4. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Just made it, Dyer to Pie for an EVE triple up....

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  14. Alonso The Great Midfielder
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    do you think the debate between tevez and aguero now rekindle again?? i think want to get rid out tevez for aguero now

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    1. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      what are they debating about? is it political? i'll choose not to get involved but if it descends into tears and heartache then you can guess the andrew lloyd webber refrain

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    2. stooshermadness
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      They were first choice starters at the beginning of the season. Nothing has changed.

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  15. nevercaptorres
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    shoild i get baines even do i have howard pienaar??

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    1. nevercaptorres
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      should lol

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    2. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      probably. but you more than anyone, can do without

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  16. totts
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Lambert or Fletcher?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      FLet

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    2. nevercaptorres
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      fletch this gw lamb next gw

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    3. stooshermadness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I think Lambert. Decent schedule after the trip to Goodison, and I think SOT will outscore SUN to be honest, although I think SUN will finish far above SOT in the table. Fletcher's score/shot rate has been extraordinary and you would expect some regression there at some point.

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      1. totts
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks fellows, that's 2-1. Any other votes and why?

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      2. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        i used the word regression for cisse last year.. did not work

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  17. Simon69
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Story lads.. does anyone know what the story with the LB position at Swansea is? I need to replace Cuellar and am thinking Davies is a good pick with two consecutive home games after this GW.. cheers

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He seems to be first choice. I'd get him, for that price it seems worth it despite their poor form.

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    2. nevercaptorres
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      hughes ful

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    3. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i have him but i wouldn't buy him. based on whatat i heard swans fans saying last week. namely that he was incapable. regardless their fix turn to crap soon so i'd posit that avoidance is the best policy

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    4. Simon69
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers all.

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    5. boney
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      nelsen is better IMO..3.9m, 3bps vs Chelsea, home game..

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  18. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    know its a bit early for this but pool to be relegated? 😉

    and everton to make cl?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Very happy to see Liverpool to be relegated

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      1. tw
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        think they will though?
        and think everton has a shot at CL?

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          no and no.

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    2. Moontaka
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Pool won't drop.

      Everton won't qualify for the CL.

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    3. Mr.KK
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Very premature. Liverpool won't drop. Liverpool should have got something out of the game against Man Utd last weekend if it wasn't for the third class referee Mark Halsey. Everton have a slim chance at CL though.

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  19. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone seen Pratik about?

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    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      nope. why do you need him though?

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Need to ask him about something. Any way I can contact him?

        Going to pick up Fifa13 in 30ish mins..

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        1. tw
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          email him

          nice! 😀

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  20. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Best striker for one week only (maximum two)? 9.1m. I'm thinking crouch (SWA) or Fletcher (WIG). Would go Jelavic (SOU), but will already have 3 everton

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    1. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Or should I just bank on man cities defense to stay rubbish, and get berba?

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    2. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Fletcher.

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      1. megatronaldinho
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        agreed. one week only, has to be fletcher. crouch is a lanky string of piss not worthy of tying a giraffe's lace neck collar. although eminently qualified

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          😆 You're too much Megatron 😀

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    3. Mr.KK
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Out of those, Fletcher hands down.

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Anyone else? Was even looking at Suarez!! (as it would only be for 2 weeks). But he is 9.4m

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Lukaku, maybe?

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          1. China Mag
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Hmmm. Not a bad shout at all. Certainly the best over the two fixtures. Cheers

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    4. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ful will 100% score and maybe even with on the weekend. Berba and cap him

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  21. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Plan to make it to the international break before I WC

    THIS WEEK
    Torres > Fletcher/Crouch/Berba
    Marveaux > Fellaini
    4 pt hit
    Play boyce (sun), if cuellar is injured

    NEXT WEEK
    One week punt with 1.9m in bank (if I go for fletcher)

    WILD CARD

    I should be fine. Right?

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    1. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It will be interesting to see how much the WC team I spent ages setting up for this week yesterday will have changed by then. Yesterday it was perfect!!

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    2. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Good plan... but plan's never work out 😉

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Ha. Normally yes. But as the only part of the plan that is (semi) fixed is this weeks moves, i should just about be able to pull it off!!

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    3. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      fukk that noise. you shudda WCed when the thought first first entered your head. don't delay that sh1t. but now you have i'd be inclined to see it through. though not at the expense of a hit. i always wildcard before taking a hit. consider that it's the only chance you get to know-for a fact- that you are saving points. lotsa folk are lscaredy l1ttle bitches when it comes to wildcard, and will tell you to hang on. blondie hung on and now debbie harry is allold and sh1t. people are dumb. ignore them. schadenfreude isa part of the fantasy footballer's genetic makeup. but now you've waited, i'd put a team out no hit, then WCsaturday

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I love this straight to the point logic. In many ways I agree and decided to go for it last week when my defence was shot. I certainly don't regret holding out and painstakingly taking regular hits to slowly mend my team.

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        1. China Mag
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Back to this after lunch

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        2. megatronaldinho
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          yeah my useless defence and the gruesome twosome in goal- albeit before realization of their unreliability had really hit home- forced my hand was losing money a couple guys too. one of which unfortunately was bale. but in all honesty, the last two seasons, i WCed before a 4 point hit. team cudda been salvageable. but like i say. yo have one or two occasions in the season where you can be certain of not losing points, and by extension money. i actually don't really undrstand why any anyone would choose to throw away hard earned points rather that fix their team up entirely. seems dumb

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          1. China Mag
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Because later in the season you will likely have to spend MORE than 4pts on fixing up your team for injuries, postponements, etc.

            The 4pt hit in this case would be for fellaini, who I would hand the armband.

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            1. megatronaldinho
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              i don't actually think that's true. when fixtures are rescheduled we always get ample time to bring in anyone we want. but you raise a point. bringing a captain into a team bereft of options is a good reason to take a hit. but only if the hit is quite neccessary

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  22. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    This year i really am not chasin value.. just let pienaar rise 0.1 and dint get him in for kags just so that i can wait for tonight and tomorrow's matches.. hope it's been worth it (just 101.9 TV so far)

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    1. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      102 is decent for this stage of the season as long as your in the top 100k. At this stage of the season I feel theres slightly more value in making early transfers as it doesn't often backfire. Late in the season when you already have a good TV theres less merit in it as you can prob afford just about anyone at any price.

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        atleast pienaar wont rise till friday now and dyer wont fall till then too.. will let fellaini rise tonight and get them both in by friday night

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  23. Anti Top Four
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Beat three long term forwards from the section to complement this midfield:

    Hazard Gerrard Nolan Pienaar Michu

    Choose 3 from:

    A. Torres
    B. Berbs
    C. Graham
    D. Ba
    E. Fletcher
    F. Lambert
    G. Suarez

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      your anti tip 4 policy may just favor you this season 🙂 ...
      Ba Berbs Suarez

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    2. Phaze 1
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      b,c,d

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    3. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      anti top 4 and you have hazard and gerrard??

      ba, berbs and fletch/lambert

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        ummm.. check results last year 🙂

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        1. tw
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          i thought he meant the 'traditional' top 4

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          1. Anti Top Four
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            It used to be the traditional top four but after all the forum abuse, the changet was made to last season's top four. Nonetheless, it makes for good fun and banter...

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  24. Goonther
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    What are people doing with Tevez? with Aguero back and Dzecko on good form....he might not get the minutes we want. Berba and Lambert and Ba all playing sweeeeet and 90 min

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    1. boney
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      was thinking the same..but mayb it's still early to conclude anything

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      gonna wait a week.. see if he starts vs fulham. if not swap to Berbs.. if he starts in the UCL midweek and @ fulham then swap to Berbs too. Else keep him

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    3. Moontaka
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      One more week for me. I'll see how he does against Fulham.

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  25. Canadian Football
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hey Everyone.

    Will either Jones/Smalling threaten Rafaels position when they return to fitness?

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    1. Willis.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes.

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      both will.. rafael safe for a while i think though

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    3. boney
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      enjoy his point while he still there..like i did 🙂 if you're lucky enuf u'll get more price rise from him

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    4. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      'everyone' in this instance, seems rather a small representation of the global populace and, delving deeper into that pocket of humanity aware of your post, those with any degree of confidential insight to be making such an affirmation, would be in the minority of a minority, of a minority. ad infinitum

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  26. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    why does demel have a permanent injured sign next to him in the watchlist?

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  27. Clay
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Some tricky selections this week. What do you guys think ...

    1) Demel (qpr) or Gunter (NEW)
    2) Kac (MAN C) or Graham (sto)

    Probably bot too many points in there but important to extract them all.

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Demel Graham

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    2. tw
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      demel
      graham

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      1. Clay
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Thank you, much appreciated.

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  28. tw
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    dead

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    1. Van The Man
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No I'm here 😛

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  29. Red Viper
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    is podolski a good option as a forward?? he comes off at 70 mins each match for walcott.....there might evn b matches where walcott starts ahead of him, once his contract things get sorted out i guess....

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  30. Van The Man
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If I'm getting an ARS frontman, thats gonna be Giroud. Just a matter of time he before he starts scoring big!

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    1. Van The Man
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Reply fail

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    2. Red Viper
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      not guaranteed starter...

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      1. Van The Man
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        He will and should start sometime. And thats when he starts scoring. Henry took some 8 games at the start to get his first goal. There's some such thing between ARS and Giroud too i guess.

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