[sbu_large_image] Pre-Season
25 July 2013 2061 comments
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We’ve another batch of friendlies to dissect for you today, with eight Premier League sides in action over the past 24 hours. Jan Vertonghen anxiously awaits an ankle scan after an awkward fall in Tottenham’s loss to Sunderland, Steven Gerrard helps Liverpool to a third straight win, Edin Dzeko gives Manuel Pellegrini his first win as City boss, Andreas Cornelius is off the mark for Cardiff, while Stoke and Norwich fall to defeat in the early hours of this morning.

Sunderland 3 Tottenham 1
A pre-match downpour not only delayed yesterday’s game but resulted in a slightly shortened match consisting of two 40-minute halves. Paolo Di Canio fielded Vito Mannone in goal and partnered John O’Shea with Wes Brown at centre-half, while new boys Cabral and Emanuel Giaccherini were named in midfield, with Stephane Sessegnon tucked in behind lone forward Jozy Altidore. Altidore and Cabral combined for the Black Cats’ first, with the US international teeing up the latter to fire home before another new boy, David Moberg Karlsson, climbed off the bench to play a pivotal part in the victory. The Swede’s corner was headed home by Brown just after the hour mark and he followed that up with a goal of his own moments prior to the final whistle. New boy Mannone’s heroics between the sticks were hailed by the club’s official website – perhaps a sign he’s edged ahead of Kieran Westwood in the role for the number one jersey.

After the match, Di Canio reserved special praise for Brown and, after revealing the player had rejected the chance to end his contract at the club, went on to suggest he could now be a key asset to the club over the season ahead:

“Wes was a very good player already but he didn’t have a very good season last year. This year he decided to push harder because he is a very good professional. Thanks to him and thanks to my staff he has the chance to come back. He is an important footballer for me and I am very glad to have him back in the squad. He still has to improve because it is only the first friendly game but with his experience he can handle the situation and he can have a big part in my squad, I hope.”

Andre Villas-Boas rolled out a 4-3-3 formation, with Clint Dempsey and Aaron Lennon flanking Emanuel Adebayor up top. The likes of Heurelho Gomes, Tom Huddlestone, Danny Rose, Scott Parker and Gylfi Sigurdsson were also named in the first XI as the Tottenham boss handed plenty of his fringe players game time. Spurs took the lead after Sigurdsson slotted home courtesy of a Kyle Walker assist but failed to hold their advantage in the rain-soaked conditions. Gareth Bale missed out once again, while more worryingly for the north London club, Jan Vertonghen was forced off after falling awkwardly on his ankle. After the game, the Spurs boss gave an update on the pair’s conditions:

“We’re trying to get Gareth involved in training tomorrow . Not with the team, unfortunately, but on his own. It depends. If we see some evolution on his injury we might give it a try but if not then he will probably be on the bench (against South China)….It seems like he (Vertonghen) twisted his ankle, it could be sprained ankle ligaments. Hopefully there is not too much damage as he has a good range of movement still, but it is swollen a bit. We hope it is nothing very serious, the MRI scan is positive and he’ll be back for the start of the season.”

Melbourne Victory 0 Liverpool 2
Brendan Rodgers gave some of his squad players a chance to impress as the Reds made it three wins and three clean sheets from three pre-season matches so far. With Kolo Toure and Philippe Coutinho missing out with a tight calf and knock respectively, the likes of Martin Skrtel and Fabio Borini were named in the starting XI alongside Brad Jones, Andre Wisdom, Raheem Sterling and Jordan Ibe. A familiar face gave the visitors the lead, though, as Steven Gerrard opened the scoring courtesy of a Joe Allen assist, before Luis Suarez teed up fellow substitute Iago Aspas to net his second goal in three appearances just before the final whistle.

After the game, most of the talk centred around Arsenal’s £40m bid for the Uruguayan, though Rodgers remained adamant his star forward will remain on Merseyside:

“There’s nothing new to report. He’s very much a Liverpool player and over the course of the next couple of weeks we’ve got to get him up to speed. The support he has received from the supporters and the people of the city of Liverpool has been unrivalled. In this period of time he’s missed a lot of games for the club through various reasons. The people have stood by him, like a son and really looked after him. Whatever happens in the coming weeks that will be in his mind because it’s something you can never forget.”

Schalke 2 Southampton 0
Mauricio Pochettino’s side fell to their first pre-season loss yesterday afternoon. According to the club’s official website, Rickie Lambert and Jay Rodriguez were partnered together in a front two, with Jason Puncheon and Lloyd Isgrove on the flanks. Kelvin Davis got the nod in goal, while elsewhere in defence, Calum Chambers started at right-back for the second match in a row. Pochettino made nine changes in the second-half but despite the alterations, the Saints failed to find a way back into the match. Guly de Prado – scorer of a hat-trick in the previous game – missed out with a thigh complaint, while Gaston Ramirez and Maya Yoshida were omitted; both players continue to build up their fitness after an extended break due to their involvement in the recent Confederations Cup.

South China 0 Man City 1
Manuel Pellegrini registered his first victory as City boss yesterday afternoon. Edin Dzeko headed the winner, with James Milner providing the assist in a match that saw the visitors start in a 4-2-3-1 formation, with Yaya Toure handed the role in “the hole” behind Dzeko due to a number of absences. While the likes of Sergio Aguero, David Silva, Jesus Navas and Stevan Jovetic were unavailable (though “two or three” could return at the weekend, according to Pellegrini), it was perhaps telling that the Chilean didn’t start with Dzeko and Alvaro Negredo together, instead introducing the latter from the bench just before the hour mark.

After the match, though, Pellegrini’s thoughts on his quartet of forwards were probably the last thing Fantasy managers wanted to hear. The Chilean was asked if he felt his side had the strongest forward line in the Premier League and his response suggested rotation could be very much on the cards:

“I think so, yes, very strong. That’s correct. I think we have very good strikers with Dzeko as well. They can play together or we can play one of them with Jovetic or Agüero. We have four very good strikers and that’s very necessary if we want to play in the Premier League and Champions League as a competitive team.”

Forest Green Rovers 3 Cardiff 4
The Bluebirds picked up a narrow win in their first pre-season match of the summer. Malky Mackay started with two up front, with Andreas Cornelius partnered by Nicky Maynard, and both forwards were amongst the goals early on. Cornelius marked his debut by heading home a Kevin McNaughton cross before Kim Bo-Kyung teed up Maynard to steer in the second. Mackay then replaced his entire starting XI at the break and watched on as Peter Whittingham slotted home a spot-kick after Joe Mason was brought down in the box, before fellow sub Craig Noone added the fourth from long distance.

Portland Timbers 1 Norwich 0
The Canaries registered their second consecutive 1-0 loss as their US tour came to an end earlier this morning. Chris Hughton made seven changes from the side that lost to San Jose Earthquakes at the weekend, though retained his usual 4-4-1-1 formation, with Wes Hoolahan selected in “the hole” behind Ricky Van Wolfswinkel. Intriguingly, new boy Nathan Redmond was again named in the first XI and has now started all three of Norwich’s pre-season games. At the back, Hughton’s rolled out a somewhat experimental side; Russell Martin was the only regular name involved from the first whistle, with Elliot Bennett, Ryan Bennett and Steven Whittaker making up the rest of the defence.

Houston Dinamo 2 Stoke 0
Mark Hughes tasted defeat in his first match in charge of the Potters. The new Stoke boss fielded a 4-4-1-1 formation, with Geoff Cameron and Erik Pieters at full-back, while Charlie Adam was installed in the centre of midfield alongside Steven Nzonzi. Cameron Jerome tucked in behind Peter Crouch up front, with Jon Walters shifted to the flank. As expected, Hughes made several changes as the match progressed and took plenty positives from the run-out as he looks to implement a more attacking brand of football at the Britannia:

“It would have been nice to have picked up a win but the fundamentals are building up the levels of fitness and working on the things that we have been doing in training on a daily basis. I think the lads did well in many areas tonight, despite the result. They started to play the ball out from the back and I think we controlled the play for long periods….It was important to get all of the lads out there and see what they are capable of. We used a few of them in different positions to try and gauge an idea of where we feel they will be best utilised this season.”

In Other News
Ahead of Chelsea’s friendly against Indonesia All Stars later today, Jose Mourinho has handed Fantasy managers a heads-up over Frank Lampard’s game time in the season ahead. Previously one of Mourinho’s “Untouchables”, Lampard missed just six of 120 Premier League games during the Portuguese manager’s first stint in charge and arrives on the back of netting 15 times in 2012/13 but, in light of yesterday’s comments, it seems Mourinho is keen to protect his midfielder and be a little more selective when it comes to handing him starts:

“Before, we didn’t analyse. Before, it was, ‘Every match, he plays’. Sometimes I wanted to give him a rest in a Carling Cup match and he said, ‘If you give me a rest the next match I will not be the same, because I have to play every three days’. At this moment, though, we have to analyse the fixtures, to analyse the matches, to analyse the week we have and make some choices. While I believe he is the same player, the difference is at 35 he needs time to recover from match to match. It is not the same for a man of 25 as a man of 35. We have to be gentle with him. He can’t play 60 matches like he did before, but the quality of the player and what he represents for the way I like to play football is exactly the same. The role doesn’t have to change. What has to change is the way we analyse competition.”

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  1. martskimart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    RMT

    Szczesny (Gazzaniga)
    Bassong, Mertesacker, Reid, (Baker, Parr)
    Snodgrass, Bale, Wanyama, Coutinho, (Colback)
    RVP, Aspas, Sturridge

    work in progess,,, Missing Chelsea.

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    1. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Triple Liverpool attack?! Deluded Scouser...?

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      1. martskimart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Considering Kone instead of Aspas.... or possibly Anelka..... need a forward at £7m or below that will play...

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    2. penguinsofdeath
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Aspas, Sturridge and Coutinho seems a bit excessive (unless you expect Liverpool to crush all in front of them I suppose)

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      1. John Merry Me
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        why so much love here for wanyama? imo he's role will be even more defensive as in celtic

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        1. kbiffo
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Agreed 5.0m Wanyama will play in the double pivot role.
          I did read that the bonus points system is different this season so he might pick up some of them but not worth a punt at all

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    3. John Merry Me
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      My plan is also miss Chelsea (if no changes to fixtures) at least until GW5. Their start looks the worst and I haven't figured out Joses pecking order yet

      Gameweek 1 Hull City (H)
      Gameweek 2 Man Utd (A)
      Gameweek 3 -
      Gameweek 4 Everton (A)

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      1. martskimart
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        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        That was my thought.. but I've heard they may have a double in GW1 vs Villa?

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  2. Jay Jay Okocha
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    A) Baines, Snodgrass, Rodriguez

    vs.

    B) Nastasic, Mirallas, RVW

    Thoughts?

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A

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    2. roscola
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      C) Nastasic, Mirallas, Rodriguez

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    3. Magic Hamster
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A as can't be 100% sure of nastasic's or RvW's playing time yet

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      1. Pinturicchio
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        RVW is surely nailed on.

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    4. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      B

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    5. penguinsofdeath
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I like A... very tempted by the wolf though

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    6. CoolBeans
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Baines, Nolan, RVW.
      They're sitting pretty in my team at the moment 🙂

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    7. kbiffo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      B for me

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  3. Ronny Hotdog
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    So, off topic and all but hey-ho. We are looking for a new Chef at work and I just received this CV from someone, read closely 😉

    "I am fully confident working in a fast paced kitchen and have no problem helping my other team mates thieve whilst the restaurant is at its busiest."

    His honesty is admirable I suppose...

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      😀

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      🙂 ...

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      did you get your cut? 😉

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      😆

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    5. PAVLYUCHENKOSAURUS
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      So I don't get the job then?

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    6. Ronny Hotdog
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Great huh? Half tempted to get him in, steal a load of food blatantly in front of him and see how he reacts. If he does nothing call him out on it and ask why he isn't helping.

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    7. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I once interviewed a bloke for a job who, half way through the interview, got a can of pop out of his inside pocket and proceeded to open and drink it...Bizarre...

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  4. Stigurdsson
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Arsenal defenders:

    The popularity of Mertesacker intrigues me: yes, he scores the odd goal, and seems inexpensive for a likely nailed-on defender at a top team. But:
    Sanga is almost certainly ahead of Jenkinson in the pecking order at right back, and despite his appalling season he remains an excellent, if sometimes ill-disciplined, player.
    Koscielny is, for me, a better fantasy player as he is more of a ball-playing CB, and had it not been for injuries last season I reckon he could have out-scored Mertesacker. His reported injury status (a knock, likely not serious) puts me off, as well as my preference for full backs, but he's ahead of Mertesacker in my books.
    Finally, Gibbs! Yes, he has been described elsewhere on this site as having cheese-string leg muscles, but, with Santos gone and Vermaelen's back injury, the only competition comes from Monreal, who is also injured. Gibbs is therefore nailed on, with a serious possibility of assists, clean sheets and even a little goal threat. At 5.5 he is a bargain in a top team with good opening fixtures. Sure, Sanga, Mertesacker and Koscielny are similar bargain buys given the depleted competition for game time in the Arsenal defence, but for me Gibbs is the best option at the moment - provided he can complete the pre-season without snapping a hamstring!

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      i dont like being forced to make transfers in my defense.. i like setting it and leavin it as it is as long as possible. Mertesacker allows that, Gibbs does'nt. Soon Monreal will be back and put his starts at risk(also he's always injured 🙁 )

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    2. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Or just get Fabianski.

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    3. Magic Hamster
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Interesting point, I must admit i've gone with the Mertesacker option after having seen his price and his more or less guaranteed game time, i never even considered Gibbs...something i'm now going to do...could be a good source of assist points as you say.

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    4. penguinsofdeath
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Interesting thoughts mate, I prefer full backs but have been hurt by the gibbs injury jinx on at least 2 occassions in the past

      I had sagna end of last season because of the price and as you say he is almost nailed on

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    5. FantaCity
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      seems to me you've answered your own question of why Mertesacker is popular pick in FPL;
      basically he is an avergae defender who plays at Arsenal but who is reasonably priced, he scores some goals, is not ill-disciplined, didn't have an appalling season, isn't prone to injury, and not subject to competition so much from other players. Long term, he's the best option IMO, although I agree with things as they are, Gibbs might also be a good punt

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    6. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Why get any Arsenal defender when more nailed-on cheaper defenders will bring similar points.

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Such as?

        Metre 135 opts last season, could get more this. Name me one sub-£5m def with a realistic chance of getting more tan 10 CS? Arse could get 15-17.

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        1. GreennRed
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Mrtersacker is 5.5. I said more points, not more CS. Toure, Coleman, Rat, Bassong all capable of doing well all 5.0. Gunners won't better last years CS total which was there best for a few years, not unless they sign better defenders.

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          1. Stigurdsson
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            I like Rat and Bassong, certainly. I think Coleman is more of a punt than a reliable point-scorer, it depends on Martinez, really. I don't like Toure, I don't think he'll play regularly enough to warrant selection.
            I like the reliability of top-6 defenders - which is why they cost more! Sure, you get solid defensive teams like Stoke and West Ham, which can be gold mines, but while West Ham still interests me, only Erik Pieters at Stoke turns my head - I don't think Stoke will be nearly so reliable defensively under Hughes.

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      2. Jönny
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Don't think they will. Arsenal will keep a lot more clean sheets than most 4.5ers.

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    7. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I'm toying between

      Migs/Gibbs and Szczesny/Kolo

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      1. Stigurdsson
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I'm going with the former option. I don't like Sczcesny personally (I'm a Spurs fan) or as a fantasy prospect, he's too unreliable in goal and I reckon Arsenal may still sign Cesar. More rationally, I don't think creaky old Kolo will be reliable for game time at Liverpool. Johnson, Agger and Enrique, and Cissoko if they loan him, provide better options in that wonderfully aggressive Liverpool defence.

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  5. r0nh
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Bale's ownership has fallen to 47%

    While RVP's has risen to 37%

    Sell, sell, sell!!!

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    1. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Maybe his price might drop to £11m by GW1 😉

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    1. ron.44
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      b*gger..another one slips from wenger's grip as he faffs pointlessly with bids for forwards we blatantly won't sign.

      i've had my eye on capoue since 2011-12 season and he would have gone a long way to ammending arsenal's df mid issues.

      great signing for cardiff, if it goes through.

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    2. Marknlard
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Don't think Capoue wants to move to Cardiff though.

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  6. Baines on Toast...
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Kevin Nolan is going to eat Snodgrass for breakfast.

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Some would call that cannibalism

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      only if carroll's holding his fork and spoon

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    3. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Surely that warrants a red card!!

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    4. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      you eat pieces of grass for breakfast?

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    5. hazza44
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      got both

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    6. Jönny
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      [Insert Suarez joke here]

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  7. parkerdip
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    How's my team so far Work in progress

    Mignolet, Vorm
    Mertesacker, Bassong, Evra (Clyne, Riether)
    Bale, Hazard, Silva, Bellamy (Koren)
    Anelka, Lukaku, Sturridge

    I did have Walcott for Silva but I downgraded the 9.5 so I had an extra .5

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    1. parkerdip
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Oh forgot I also downgraded Vorm for Boruc

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    2. Rui
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Decent team but could do with a few trims here and there.

      Downgrade Vorm to Boruc/Marshall (4.5m) or a 4.0m non playing keeper - quite a few people here are doing the latter to save cash.

      Bassong --> M.Turner will save you .5m. Evra isn't worth it given his opening fixtures, so I would swap to Zabaleta - another .5m saved. I like the Riether pick but just a little expensive to stick on the bench imo.

      Midfield is great, although with the money saved above, I would do Bellamy --> Snodgrass. Koren --> Thomas would save you an extra .5m if you really needed the money to upgrade elsewhere.

      Like the Lukaku punt. However you could swap him to Giroud, giving you Arsenal attacking cover for their relatively easy opening fixtures. Watch Sturridge's injury situation, otherwise a good forward line.

      Hope that helps!

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      1. parkerdip
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks for the tips. I guess I chose Evra just so that I would have a Man Utd player in my team

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  8. The Pep Revolution
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Is anyone picking a Man City midfielder or forward on their team? Is there anyone who is nailed on or even likely to be nailed on?

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    1. J0E
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      see below - I'm currently tempted by Negredo as Pellegrini loves him.

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      1. roscola
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        If I thought he was first choice I'd totally have him. But is he? Do you have a link to a love-letter/CCTV kernoodling footage?

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      2. The Pep Revolution
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah he seems a good choice but it is hard to know at this moment. Looking at the Man City forum Bluemoon there is a lot of debate over the starting 11.

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    2. roscola
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I keep flirting with Silva and Negredo but they don't fill me with confidence. Silva may be nailed on but won't score that much, Negredo *could* score a boatload or could be rotated heavily.

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      1. The Pep Revolution
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        True. It may be better to wait a couple of weeks and see how things turn out.

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        1. roscola
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          That's the sensible method. I hate it though, especially when someone you were watching goes orbital and you feel like you should have trusted yourself.

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          1. The Pep Revolution
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Thats it aswell. And City have the potential with that team to score a lot of goals this year so shame to miss out on it.

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    3. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      In terms of forwards, I'm going for Aguero as I think he'll get the most starts out of the 3 due to his ability to play either forward role and the fact that he's used to the PL.

      I'd say Silva is relatively nailed on, but not sure if he's worth the money with Hazard, Walcott etc. available at a similar price.

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      1. The Pep Revolution
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        I agree about Aguero. He is surely still the main forward for City.

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    4. Magic Hamster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I've got Aguero, but i'm starting to reconsinder...11.0m for a rotation player could be costly!

      I'd says Silva is the best attacking option, I'd expect him to be pretty likely to start most games, but still with Jovetic, Aguero and Navas...and at a push Nasri, he may also be at risk of rotation.

      The only City midefielder i'd says is nailed on is Yaya Toure...but he may not play in as advanced a role as he did last season, although in City's last friendly he did. I'd expect his position to be subject to change i.e. play deeper in the big games and have more freedom to push forward against the smaller sides.

      Essentially, as many people on here have stated, choosing a City mid/ striker is a minefield at the moment. Given the cost they have attached to them i'd suggest avoiding them for the time being until things settle down and we have a better idea of City's week in week out line up (if there will be one) and pick someone more likely to play (Coutinho, Mata, Hazard, Cazorla, sturridge, giroud etc...

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      1. The Pep Revolution
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Id agree with all that. Waiting is probably the best option but if there is one player you have in mind it might be worth having a gamble on them as City could score a lot of goals this year particularly early on.

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        1. Magic Hamster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Yeh i agree. I don't have RVP, or any Chelsea players, so if i leave out City players too I could be left for dead if they start scoring high points. I do currently have Aguero in my team but i'm still not sure about him (i've also had Jovetic and Negredo at various times and keep changing). If Bale moves to Madrid it would be a lot easier as I'd go Aguero>RVP and Bale>Silva.

          Will just wait and see

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      2. Rupert The Horse
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        With their fixtures I feel compelled to buy a City forward player, but is it worth the risk, I'm not so sure.

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    5. Red5
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Silva and one of Aguero/Negredo for me. City's opening fixtures are too good to ignore, even with the slight uncertainty in how they'll line up.

      Thinking about it I'll probably go for Negredo over Aguero because of his lower ownership.

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  9. J0E
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Just had another team tinker. Appear to have ended up with a strike force of Negredo, Kone and Giroud...three strikers I've never owned before. Exciting times ahead.

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    1. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Kone was the main man last year, he scored 11 goals...

      He is likely to get less minutes this year.

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    2. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I had Negredo too, but someone mentioned he had Spain friendly few days before, so may be as a sub instead.
      however, even as sub, he can still do damage

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Silva going for that too?

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    3. lfc123
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Dodgy

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    4. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I am going with a similar striker force with Aguero instead of Negredo

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  10. hazza44
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Hey guys my brother wants thoughts on his team haha.

    Mignolet (Boruc)
    Luiz Garrido Jagieka (Turner, Baker)
    Bale Hazard Wanyama Snoddy (Rosicky)
    Benteke Giroud Sturridge

    thanks guyss

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    1. Toonzie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      benteke to lambert/wolf

      wanyama to nolan/mirallas/hba imo

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  11. tosey
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    do we still do 'first' around here?

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      we don't post anything apart from insightful fantasy football related advices

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      do people get to express art in an orwellian '84?

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Who cares!

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    4. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      It normally doesn't last long.

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  12. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Looking at the debate that i had with a few earlier and thought I would ask this:

    Would you rather you team played great football to watch but didn't always get the right result or play more 'boring' football to guarantee wins?

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    1. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      All about the wins for me.

      Though it's when you play boring football and struggle to win that's the biggest issue!

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    2. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      So in other words would your team rather be Arsenal or Man Utd?

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      inbetween.

      that is the standard answer.

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    4. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Or couch it another way, would you rather be a Gooner or a Spur?

      I'm a Spur! 🙂

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    5. Big Fudge
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      The former, which is why I'm excited by Holloway being back in the Premier League 😀

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Campana!!

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    6. lfc123
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Wins

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    7. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      It's got to be the boring/winning football, hasn't it? Plus that's always going to guarantee SOME form of excitement as you'll be winning trophies. Perhaps not 'great football' but that's just a matter of opinion.

      For example i get bored very quickly watching Barca and Real Madrid having 60% possession and hammering teams 5-0 every Saturday/Sunday night

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      1. Ronny Hotdog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Perfect example of Birmingham city under McLeish. Boring, horrible, play-it-back-to-keeper-from-corner-kick style of football. But that Carling Cup win was special.

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    8. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Wins as well for me

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    9. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Exciting football. trophies are really completely meaningless, but you do have to watch them week in week out.

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  13. Mak_Gold
      12 years, 7 months ago

      A) Coleman + 4.0 DF

      B) 4.5 DF + 4.5 DF

      C) 4.0 DF + 4.5 DF and use the extra 0.5 to turn Gayle into Anelka.

      ???

      Additional info: My most expensive DF is Mertesacker. Or should I sell him instead of Coleman?

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      1. onionbarje
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        it depends if you need two playing dfs and if you are going to play Gayle. I need to see your whole team

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        1. Mak_Gold
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Mignolet, (Davis),
            Mertesacker, Coleman, BTurner, (Parr, Chester),
            Bale, Hazard, Walcott, Snodgrass, (Thomas),
            RVP, Koné, Gayle. (0.0 ITB)

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      2. phy5tij
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Campana seems a potential good 5th choice mid. Cracking little player who should be on FK's and corners for palace.

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Been biggin him up for a while. Gr8 ball control and a brilliant eye for a pass. Should be on corners(not sure FKs). He's bein overlooked because he's previous stats are bad though that was mainly due to sub appearances and a young age(20). He's got a mean shot on him now and could be the next Adam imo

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          1. phy5tij
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Agreed! His stats for last season are misleading because he got injured after nailing down a starting role for Sevilla

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            1. Valar(Keith)
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              he's in my team atm and i suspect he'll be in everyone's teams after the next 3 palace friendlies.. He was pretty brilliant on his debut. Controlled everythin

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            2. Valar(Keith)
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              Glad i found someone who likes campana.. rotating him and Jrod at the moment. Can foresee big things. Will be the most nailed on Palace attacker too

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      3. herrwilson
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Who is nailed on in the Crystal Palace defence?

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      4. AK ⭐
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Is it just me or the links of the hot topics not working?

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        1. Toonzie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          it's working for me

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      5. SW6
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Dwight Gayle. 5.0, so it's easy to bench him. A striker under Holloway's system will surely score some goals. Just me? Ok..

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          If Palace dont sign Cole/Odemwingie he'll be in my team for sure.. Bargain @5

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        2. Thick Of It
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          And would help fund an expensive midfield. Thing is with many of these players even if they are on my bench I want them playing, game-time is the hardest thing to predict at the moment. You assume K Phillips will be an impact sub, Carlton Cole is a mystery but there is other competition as well

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          1. SW6
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            I'm just hoping the fact they paid £4.5m rising to £8m should mean he plays a lot.

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          2. Valar(Keith)
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            not really.. just triallists and dobbie at the moment. Gayle may get played as an inverted winger though

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        3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Easy to bench him? No matter who or what price your striker are i find it impossible to bench them! You only get to have 3 after all, why on earth would you want to (voluntarily) restrict that?!

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      6. CABAYE4
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Clyne or Shaw?

        Mostly looking at which is the most likely to start every game, which do you think is most likely to be rotated?

        Also, with them paying a lot of money for Wanyama, how will he fit into the side? Could Cork switch to RB like he did on occasion last season? Can't see him being dropped entirely, he transformed their season once he became fit and was a permanent fixture in the side when fit.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Clyne for me as the safer pick although it's easy to argue Shaw has the much bigger potential this season. Whether or not he will fulfil that potential is another matter and a key FPL decision it would seem!

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          1. CABAYE4
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah that's what I thought originally.

            But this Wanyama deal could confuse things, I really don't think Cork will be dropped, nor Sneiderlein, they were so key to their success last season, maybe they'll rotate or switch to 433 rather than 4231.

            What worries me about Clyne was Cork's RB switches last season, when someone was playing too well to be dropped in midfield (Davis maybe), that was the way to fit them all in, with Clyne dropping to the bench.

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          2. Ginkapo FPL
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            + Rumours of stealing Naughton who would fight with Shaw

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            1. CABAYE4
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              Is Naughton not more of a RB, though he played LB for Spurs a lot?

              Rotation with both would be a bit of a killer, hope that deal doesn't happen!

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        2. onionbarje
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Clyne has he got 3 assists, where as shaw got none this year and neither will be rotated. Wanyama will replace Cork imo, and i can't see Cork outplaceing Clyne.

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        3. Thick Of It
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I am with Superdunny on this. Also Shaw seems a bit more fragile injury wise, both are young but Clyne seems fully developed physically whilst Shaw is still growing.

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          1. CABAYE4
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah I'd agree with this, he seemed to pick up knocks last year.

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        4. Stigurdsson
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Naughton would be for squad depth, like Wanyama. Soton had Cork and Schneiderlin last season, but beyond those two their next best mid was one of their excellent U18 prospects, Ward-Prowse. Naughton would get game time on both sides, likely more on the left than the right, but I'm not sure he'll move.
          Wanyama will likely rotate with Cork and Schneiderlin, depending on fitness and form. Cork won't play right back except in emergencies, it's really not his natural position. Southampton lacked real quality in depth at full back last season.
          I prefer Clyne, he's a more effective attacker than Shaw. Although a friend of mine, a Southampton fan, prefers Shaw - he says Shaw was just finding his feet last season, and will be a lot more attacking this season. And while I hate to admit it, he should know. Still prefer Clyne, because he's proven, but I fully intend to continue to watch Shaw's form closely - Superdunny has the right of it!

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      7. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        ha! a group of my mates just asked me to join their 10 quid a head league 🙂 hussled 🙂

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        1. Toonzie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          any news on gomis? 😀

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Gomis?

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            1. Toonzie
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              yea yr want away striker frm lyon

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              1. Kings of Lyon ★
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 7 months ago

                Ahhh i dont support Lyon. Sorry buddy

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                1. Thomass
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 7 months ago

                  What TEAMS do you support?

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        2. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          You've got mates? 😯

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            😆 cheeky

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      8. JoshT
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        A - Dawson
        B - Coleman

        ?

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        1. Toonzie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          coleman

          dawson might not be a starter, kaboul caulker both vying for a spot beside vert

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          1. JoshT
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            thanks

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      9. CoolBeans
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Is anyone else going with Baines from the off?
        I managed to squeeze him into my team last night and I feel pretty good about it. Evertons fixtures are decent at the start as well!
        I can't see anyone taking FKs and PENs from him if he stays, possibly Mirallas but I'm not sure.
        The luxury of having a DEF who'll outscore most mids is to appealing 🙂

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Everton have some very interesting FPL options this season but i may take a wait and see approach for the first few weeks. See how the new set up looks and who plays where!

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        2. daddybeak
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Mirallas looks good on free kicks, so Baines may have to relent on some during the game. Pens is defo Baines though,

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        3. CoolBeans
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I think I'm going to risk it. I plan on playing my WC early anyway so if it doesn't work out I can basically downgrade to any other DEF in the league.
          I have my team set up nicely for the first 6 GWs so Baines is the only Everton player I can fit in without dropping someone else with decent fixtures.

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      10. PAVLYUCHENKOSAURUS
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        This time last year all the talk was of Michu's potential. not a sniff of him this year despite last years haul? 9.0 isn't exactly Bale money.

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          it is silva, hazard and wally money though. plus his fixtures aint gr8

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        2. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Shit fixtures.

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        3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I suspect it's mainly due to Swansea's tough start but i'm with you. Last season he scored against most of those teams he's facing in the first 6 so no reason why he can't repeat that

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        4. Thick Of It
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I think people fear that Bony will take a lot of his points, and he will not be played OOP. Also with the likes of De Guzman and Hernadez scoring quite a few I think many see a drier year. Me? Not so sure

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        5. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          3 reasons:

          1) Diabolical opening fixtures for Swansea
          2) Europa league taking its toll
          3) Last year Swansea didn't really have a striker, so Michu had to do all the scoring. Now they have Bony who may take some of Michu's goals

          None of that is absolutely certain to impede his goalscoring, but there are several ~9m players without that baggage

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        6. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Bad fixtures/Bony....He's not become a bad player though...If you feel the love then go for him...

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      11. daddybeak
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        WK1

        Ruddy (Boruc)
        Collins Coleman Merts (Clyne)(Chester)
        Schurrle Walcott Bale Mirallas Silva
        Bony Anelka (Berbatov)

        Any opinions ?? Will alternate Berbs and Anelka based on home fixtures & opponents

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        1. BeefyBonus
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          That's a lot of money left on the bench. Not better to play them both every week and downgrade a Mid to a 4.5 (Shurrle, for instance - not certain to start)

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      12. Jafalad
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Been trapped on a tropical island the past two weeks. Can someone fill me in on what has been happening...in the world?

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        1. Ronny Hotdog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Some babies were born, at least one of them is called George.
          Arsenal somehow pretending to buy Suarez.
          I hurt my foot

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          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            The last 2 are more newsworthy than the 1st. Yet I've heard nothing about your foot before.

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            1. Ronny Hotdog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              Don't worry, my work colleagues have heard loads about it 😉

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      13. Wii not fit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Any suggestions?

        Mannone

        Shaw Mertesacker Luiz

        Bale Snodgrass Hazard Kagawa

        Anelka Sturridge Aguero

        Bench: Boruc, Thomas, Clyne, B. Turner

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      14. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        So.... Gary Hooper to Norwich? B*llocks. I think that will effect RVW gametime 🙁

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        1. Ghost Ship
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          I've always thought if he gets to the Premier League I will take a punt on him. Superb goals to game ratio wherever he's been over a decent amount of seasons. Best punt out there so far this year IMO.

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Good luck. Ive watched him for a good few years, im not going near until he's proven himself

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            1. Ghost Ship
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              Obviously he's never played at this level, but is there anything that you've seen that puts you off - too slow?

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              1. Kings of Lyon ★
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 7 months ago

                I just think he goes in huffs and when is not going his way he sulks. A goof CB should have him in his pocket. Time will tell but I think its too much of a punt.

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                1. Ghost Ship
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 7 months ago

                  I've heard that he drops out of games sometimes but that can be worked on if he wants to - the one thing that worries me that he will need is pace, as Norwich will be counter attacking, how fast is he?

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                  1. Kings of Lyon ★
                    • 15 Years
                    12 years, 7 months ago

                    I would say average (for want of a better word) hes not fast and not slow.

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        2. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah I know, this might just be the hardest FPL yet.

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        3. Kuqi Monster
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          can't see norwich spending a club record 8.5m on a striker then rotating him...

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      15. Thick Of It
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Any Hooper love if his move to Norwich is completed? Will be interested to see if he is cheaper than RVW.

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Hes a good finisher, but i dont think he'll cut it in the prem, Ive been wrong before but Im not going near him at the start.

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      16. Torched999
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        A) Walcott + Sturridge

        B) Countinho + Giroud?

        also

        which 2 would u rather have out of snodgrass, mirallas, nolan?

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        1. lil_ben5
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          IMO Mirallas

          also walcott and sturridge

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        2. JoshT
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          million dollar question this, think considering Giroud's form in the pre season friendlies A & B look pretty balanced for me.

          And q2 i'm trying to figure out myself!

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          1. Torched999
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            i think sturridge is gonna have a golden season but hes not played any pre season which is a worry.. also i think walcott is a less riskier shout than 9m rated coutinho but this is hard!

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            1. JoshT
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              I think even though he isn't playing pre season if he is fit for the first game he will play, and likely score, just the kind of player he is!

              However also being a Liverpool fan I know we always struggle against Stoke, bogey team!

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        3. Magic Hamster
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          A. providing Sturridge is fit for start of season.

          I'd pick Mirallas, got him in my team, think he'll be the most attacking out of the ones you've listed.

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      17. lil_ben5
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        GK: Mignolet
        DEF: Garrido, Collins, Cuellar, Pieters, S Taylor
        MID: Arterta, Mirallas, Paulinho, Sessegnon, Whittingham
        FWD: RVP, Sturridge, Lambert

        Money Spare: £3.5m (thinking maybe get Mata after GW3) and Saurez when back from Ban

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        1. CABAYE4
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Sessegnon likely to be sold, Cuellar unlikely to be first choice, Taylor a risk.

          Also spend the money! Arteta to Walcott maybe

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          1. Thick Of It
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Have not heard that about Sess, where is he headed?

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            1. GreennRed
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 7 months ago

              On form easily their best midfielder. No surprise someone's after him. Maybe it's no surprise either that Do Canio might let him go.

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        2. Ronny Hotdog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Too much spare cash IMO, upgrade Paulinho to Bale with the cash, he's a DM isn't he?

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          1. GreennRed
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            Box-to-box midfielder, he'll get a few goals but nothing like Bale. Use most of that 3,5m which should increase in value. Suarez's price will drop anyways. Who's your 2nd keeper?

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