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14 August 2013 4426 comments
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Over the last few months of 2012/13, Gareth Bale’s series of explosive displays had finally afforded Fantasy managers a reliable captaincy alternative to the relentless Robin Van Persie. With a goal or assist in 11 of his final 14 league appearances, the Welshman thrived in a central role behind the lone forward in Andre Villas-Boas’ 4-2-3-1 formation and ended the campaign with 14 sets of double figure hauls, averaging 7.2 points per game in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Despite a hefty hike in price across the Fantasy games, Bale was a hugely popular pick when the Player Price Lists were released earlier this summer but with Real Madrid determined to prise him away from the Lane, his ownership has dropped dramatically with only a few days left until the season kicks off. Not only would his departure be a bitter blow to Villas-Boas’ plans for the season ahead, it would also hit Fantasy managers equally hard and leave Van Persie as the standout option in terms of reliability once more.

In our next Burning Question article, we ask a handful of contributors if the Dutchman will be impossible to ignore if Bale legs it to La Liga.

Applebonkers says….
I’m personally without Van Persie as it stands, due to fixture and form concerns more than an issue of price. So on that basis, no. Of course, the great appeal of Van Persie is his ability to score against anyone, but my argument is that a goal in each of the first three matches wouldn’t really hurt a non-owner as it costs 14.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) to acquire the United man.

Braces and hat-tricks are the ones which really punish non-owners, though I’m not sure he has the post-Real Madrid form to trump the opening schedule, with trips to Swansea and Liverpool and a home game versus Chelsea in the first three Gameweeks.

Here’s a stat: since RVP notched three times against Chelsea in 2011, 24 hat-tricks have been scored in the Premier League and only two have come against top half sides (Steven Gerrard v Everton and Romelu Lukaku v United). It’s playing the odds in my opinion, no one is fixture proof, simply various levels of fixture resilience. I have to admit, by Gameweek 4 I’d like him, though.

Andy says….
Coming from the Fantasy manager who went 31 of 38 gameweeks last season without Manchester United and Fantasy Football’s top scorer, and won the Scout Contributor’s league (I will brag while I still can!) in doing so, my answer to this question is probably pretty obvious. To me, the notion of the essential and must-have player is nothing but a fallacy. And that even includes Robin Van Persie.

The Dutch forward is arguably the best player currently plying his trade in the Premier League and will surely earn his crust for whichever Fantasy managers decide to hand over the mammoth price tag he has been handed across the Fantasy games. He’s safe, he’s secure, he’s prolific. He’s not essential though.

I’ve written many words in the past to support this claim but it boils down to the fact that I believe you can find alternative ways to spend your Fantasy budget to equal or greater effect. There’s more inherent “danger” involved in veering away from such Fantasy staples but it doesn’t mean you can’t succeed – a theory my 2012/13 season somehow managed to support.

Essentially, he’s not essential. But if there’s ever a good run of games where I think he’ll be the ideal captain choice, I’ll be the first to invest. Getting that armband choice right – or, more importantly, not getting it wrong when those around you get it right – is one aspect I do place a high priority on.

Tinkerman says…
Bale’s departure would certainly deprive us of an immense Fantasy talent and cause a huge rethink of strategy – especially for those whose draft squads currently rely on the Welshman’s explosive yet consistent returns for their weekly captaincy choice.

That said, I still don’t think Bale leaving necessarily makes Van Persie the only safe captaincy option from the start. Granted, we all know his capabilities but, with a wealth of premium midfielders offering high potential, there are plenty of ways to spend the extra budget you’d save by choosing to overlook the most expensive player in the game.

Managers avoiding Van Persie from the start would, however, leave themselves with a quandary should he prove to be the only reliable and consistent captaincy option after a few weeks. It would mean being forced into either spending points on transfer hits or activating the transfer wildcard early on. The option of initially avoiding Van Persie and bringing him in on a Gameweek 4 wildcard is one that has been discussed much on the boards – at this point, cheaper players who offer strong points potential will no doubt have emerged and will allow us to save money elsewhere in order to free up funds for the Dutchman. Since an early wildcard has proven to be a successful strategy for many managers in recent seasons, I think Bale leaving these shores wouldn’t make owning Van Persie from the start a must.

Ryan says….
The main argument for Van Persie’s essential status is that he would be a nailed-on captaincy option. As this is a new season, however, I am of the opinion that other strong armband candidates will appear as the campaign unfolds. The fact that RVP is so expensive almost compels you to captain him most weeks in order to justify his place in your side. This can act as a mental bias in one’s thought process and brings about a barrier which stops you captaining other potentially stronger options. I think it is best not to be shackled to the Dutchman and be more flexible in your armband picks.

Van Persie may not be ‘essential’ but for the conservative manager, his incredible consistency makes him a reliable captain that will still bring home regular points. It might take some time to identify exactly who the best alternative captains are – until that time, Van Persie is a safe option to get you started.

Mark says…
Essential is a big word. I wouldn’t quite go that far but, for my money, Bale’s seemingly imminent departure has undoubtedly raised Van Persie’s stock.

I was all set to overlook him and opt for the Spurs man but now the landscape has changed and suddenly I’m setting up with the Dutchman as the foundation for my team, with the rest of my selections dropping in around him.

The armband is a major concern. Yes, there will be weekly candidates who emerge but few, if any, can get close to the consistency we saw from Van Persie for long spells last season.

I’m well aware that I’ve clung to him like a security blanket and that my faith in Van Persie has cost me dear in the past but I much prefer the idea of starting the season with him and assessing what value is available elsewhere, rather than be forced to carry out major surgery ahead of Gameweek 4.

Of course the early wildcard is the solution but I want to have the choice, not be forced to play it because Van Persie has delivered a goal a game and is about to embark on a run of favourable fixtures.

The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack. While Wayne Rooney flirted with the concept of offering an alternative last season, this time around that option looks unlikely. Unless Wilfred Zaha takes his opportunity or Shinji Kagawa cements the support role over Danny Welback, then it really is Van Persie or nothing.

While there are real concerns that David Moyes will struggle to inspire his team to the heights of previous campaigns, I see too much quality in the United lineup to risk overlooking them as an attacking force.

Essential? Not quite. Highly desirable and worth building your squad around? Right now, I really think so.

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    1. Oldman Unathletic
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      Good stuff FLV.

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        thanks

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      7/10

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        meh......that'll do me! 😀

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  2. Jairzinho
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    Some guy tweeted this. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rltihg

    @premierleague #UFPL Thanks for your e-mail and interest in the game.

    Currently there is no set release date for the Ultimate Fantasy Premier League game. Please check in regularly with the website for the most up-to-date information about the game.

    Regards,
    Fantasy Premier League Support

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  3. P2One
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    RMT please.

    Mignolet (Given)
    Toure Santon Ward (Chester Brayford)
    Walcott Hazard(c) Gaston Ramirez Mirallas
    RvP Lukaku Soldado

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    1. European Bob
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      Rotation risk with Gaston and Ramirez

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  4. MJ6987
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    Sounds like Rooney won't be starting vs Swansea then.

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  5. Lawrø
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    Good to go Chaps?

    http://i.imgur.com/S6AN4Sm.png

    😀

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    1. TheSteel
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      yes

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    2. denial
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      Very nice that.

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    3. DRIZ ✅
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      why clichy?

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      1. Lawrø
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        Cheapest nailed on City defender.

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    4. Dannyban
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      Similar to mine, why have you gone for Ivan as Capt instead of Haz? Im currently vice-versa?!

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  6. sahota
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    Is there any way of justifying paying 0.5 more for Jagielka over Distin?

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  7. Scottys Army
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    is altidore worth a punt till fletcher is back

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      looked good tonight, will probably start the first game now

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    2. Tracksuit Manager
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      i watch him all the time for the USA and i can tell you he's improved dramatically over the last year. depending on the rest of your squad, i'd say YES.

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  8. Mr.Helmut
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    I'm someone who relatively does well in the fantasy league including finishing 856th last season in the world. I always start off strong, in huge part to playing four defenders and my keeper and they all keep clean sheets (I double up or even triple up on defenders I feel will keep clean sheets on opening day and I'm mostly spot on). My question is about fulham defenders on opening day. Are they a great choice to double up on or should I forget them on the whole?. Yes, it may sound weird that it's fulham I'm talking about but here's an interesting stat. Fulham have kept clean sheets in 4 straight opening day fixtures (Away to Portsmouth, Away to Bolton, Home to A. Villa & Home to Norwich) so can they make it 5 straight opening days with a clean sheet?

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    1. Baines on Toast...
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      Interesting stat. Could see them keeping Sunderland out, and Amorebiata is strong value for the season, but doubling up seems excessive.

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      1. Mr.Helmut
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        I know doubling up can be excessive but that's has been a strong point for me to start a season, I really put it out there. Last year I tripled up on west ham's defence to start and it paid off against villa when they won 1-0 and my other def kept a clean sheet against liverpool and I really am getting a strong feeling that game will be goalless or I can be horribly wrong and fulham can lose 4-0, lol

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    2. Vote Joke
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      Erm, as you're so damn good, shouldn't I be asking you questions?

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      1. Mr.Helmut
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        LOL!!, I am new to this site, like been on it for 2 weeks now, just because my friends showed it to me and I really like what I see with everyone discussing stuff. You can never ever be "too good" to get like other views and so on 😀

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    3. Absinthe 42
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      If you're so good at doing this, why do you need to ask? 😉

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      1. Vote Joke
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        Copy cat 😉

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        1. Absinthe 42
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          Win by 2 mins 🙂

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      2. Mr.Helmut
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        Because I love to hear other opinions, this site, ever since I started off a few weeks ago, I enjoyed every minute of it, lol and I won't even say I'm that good. Even if I somehow won it overall last year, I still would have asked for advice 🙂

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  9. Bollard
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 8 months ago

    My final punt for start of season. Not touching it now...

    Mingolet (Boruc)
    Baines/Williams/Ivanovic (Turner/McNaughton)
    (C)Lampard/Coutinho/Snodgrass/Silva (R Morrison)
    Lambert/Soldado/Giroud

    Lets see how that flies

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      It will fly like a table.

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      1. Bollard
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        Thanks - i like the sound of that!

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    2. European Bob
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      Swap mcnaughton for brayford

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      1. Bollard
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        Curses - i thought i had frozen it 🙂

        Doh!

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  10. King Kohli
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    Dzeko or Negredo?

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    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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      see below

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      1. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        That proves nothing?

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        1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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          not tryna prove anything...just might help in his decision

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  11. Tracksuit Manager
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    think i'm close to putting this teamsheet to bed. thoughts?

    jaas, boruc
    mert, shaw, coleman, ward, turner (norwich)
    hazard, mirallas, michu, walcott, zaha
    benteke, sturridge, jrod

    .5 bank.

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  12. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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    You do the Maths

    Dzeko...scored 2 vs USA (90min played)

    Negredo...scored 1 vs Ecuador (45 min played)
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    *Silva played first half and now Navas is on for him in second half

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    1. MJ6987
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      Negredo to start GW1?

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      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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        yep...in my opinion

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      I can't do the maths, help

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    3. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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      I don't think that necessarily alters who will start the first game week. I'd still be fairly confident of Dzeko starting.

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      1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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        agreed...but it matters for those who think Negredo won't start

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  13. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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    Fair to say this hasn't been a great dry run for match days...

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  14. Crouch Potato!
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    How many and which teams in the current championship have never payed in the top flight?

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    1. Crouch Potato!
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      played

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    2. DCFC87
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      Top flight as in prem? Brighton, Doncaster, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Yeovil. Missed any?

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    3. Vote Joke
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      I'm a Millwall fan I know we've never been in the Prem and we never will, especially now Agent Lomas is in charge. Oh how I long for the days of Cahill, Reid, Bircham, Neil et al. We had a team back then. Our time will never come again.

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      1. DCFC87
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        ah yeah forgot millwall!

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        1. Vote Joke
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          Of course you did. Everyone forgets Millwall, unless we're being racist or rioting.

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  15. Salma Hayak's Left Peg
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    Don't really have much wiggle room to change Oscar and Walcott for Hazard and Coutinho

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  16. SH1M1
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    A) Mignolet, Coleman, Lukaku

    Or

    B) Cech, Colins, Lambert

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    1. An Púca
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      A

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  17. Lawrø
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    Site running slowly for anyone else?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Everyone.

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    2. r0nh
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      Everyone 🙁

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    3. denial
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      Yeah, and I keep getting logged off for some reason.

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    4. Piggs Boson
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      Very... except the member section.

      I post a comment, and then browse there for 5 minutes while it's posting 😆

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      1. Lawrø
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        I've only just got your name! 😆

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        1. Piggs Boson
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          😆

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    5. MJ6987
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      Yeah, and the Internet generally.

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    6. Vote Joke
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      Yeah, everything is slow. I blame Egypt

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  18. Sif
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    Will Hull signing Huddleston and Livermore effect Korean or Brady's starts?

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    1. Sif
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      *Koren - Nexus fail

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    2. Jairzinho
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      Not too much. Especially not Brady. Maybe Koren to an extent but wouldn't worry about it. Meyler most at risk IMO.

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  19. WDT
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    straw poll;

    A) Snodgrass and Lukaku
    B) J.Morrison and Giroud

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    1. Just One More Thing
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      A

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  20. DRIZ ✅
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    Guys..

    Coutinho
    OR
    Sturridge ?

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    1. bdwhite91
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      Coutinho

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  21. DHWizzo
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    For those going with Mignolet, is there a strong argument for pairing with a 4.5 (Boruc) or are most people just going with a 4M and letting it ride on the Liverpool man?

    I have that pair now, but could use an extra 0.5 (allow me to get Cashley over Terry) and think that is one easy way to do it.

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    1. Red5
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      I don't think there's a strong argument for having a 4.5gk as well as Mig, but Cashley is a downgrade from Terry so I wouldn't bother if that's what you're intending to use it for.

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    2. DCFC87
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      I wouldn't rotate a 5.5 goalkeeper personally they shouldn't ever concede more than 3 in a game

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  22. GOONER
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    Ignore the price tag, who will score more points at the end of the season?

    A) Mata
    B) Hazard

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    1. bdwhite91
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      Hazard

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  23. markos6969
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    Benteke injured?

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    1. Alonso14
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      yes i heard this

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  24. Birdman Transfer
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    ALL ABOARD THE HOT NEW BANDWAGON!

    £33.5m defence
    Hazard—Walcott—Coutinho—Michu/Silva (Mirallas)
    Dzeko—Lambert—Altidore

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  25. bdwhite91
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    Altidore Hatty! USA!

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  26. sahota
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    RMT

    Boruc Foster

    Zabaleta Mertesacker Garrido Toure Jagielka

    Morrison Snodgrass Ben Arfa Hazard(C) Bale

    Sturridge Lukaku Lambert

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  27. BenDavies
    • 13 Years
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    NEWS ON BENTEKE BREAKING HIS LEG!?

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    1. Fifa las vegas
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      ??

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    2. Woy of the Wovers
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      On a chair.

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  28. the axolotl
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    can anyone explain why paulinho is not a good option? people seem to be saying he's a real defensive midfielder. but would he not get further forward that sandro and dembele. the guy scores goals. think he's been a bit overlooked here.

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    1. Baines on Toast...
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      Most people are going Soldado. Agree he could be good, Siggy too if Bale leaves.

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      He is an attacking player, but his position on the pitch is in the defensive 2, rather than the attacking 3. He is akin to Schweinsteiger, Khedira, Ramsey etc.

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  29. Fifa las vegas
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    Repost:

    How's this looking?
    Boruc
    Terry, Toure, Koscielny
    Cabral, Walcott (vc), Coutinho, Hazard (c)
    RVP, Anelka, Sturridge

    subs: Olsson, Pozeulo, Mbiwa

    thoughts? Also, i am unsure whether to play olsson or Cabral 😐

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  30. Coach Taylor
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    Which Manchester United player would be worth getting besides RVP?

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    1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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      At the moment non... Sadly it's a wait and see situation.

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