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14 August 2013 4426 comments
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Over the last few months of 2012/13, Gareth Bale’s series of explosive displays had finally afforded Fantasy managers a reliable captaincy alternative to the relentless Robin Van Persie. With a goal or assist in 11 of his final 14 league appearances, the Welshman thrived in a central role behind the lone forward in Andre Villas-Boas’ 4-2-3-1 formation and ended the campaign with 14 sets of double figure hauls, averaging 7.2 points per game in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Despite a hefty hike in price across the Fantasy games, Bale was a hugely popular pick when the Player Price Lists were released earlier this summer but with Real Madrid determined to prise him away from the Lane, his ownership has dropped dramatically with only a few days left until the season kicks off. Not only would his departure be a bitter blow to Villas-Boas’ plans for the season ahead, it would also hit Fantasy managers equally hard and leave Van Persie as the standout option in terms of reliability once more.

In our next Burning Question article, we ask a handful of contributors if the Dutchman will be impossible to ignore if Bale legs it to La Liga.

Applebonkers says….
I’m personally without Van Persie as it stands, due to fixture and form concerns more than an issue of price. So on that basis, no. Of course, the great appeal of Van Persie is his ability to score against anyone, but my argument is that a goal in each of the first three matches wouldn’t really hurt a non-owner as it costs 14.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) to acquire the United man.

Braces and hat-tricks are the ones which really punish non-owners, though I’m not sure he has the post-Real Madrid form to trump the opening schedule, with trips to Swansea and Liverpool and a home game versus Chelsea in the first three Gameweeks.

Here’s a stat: since RVP notched three times against Chelsea in 2011, 24 hat-tricks have been scored in the Premier League and only two have come against top half sides (Steven Gerrard v Everton and Romelu Lukaku v United). It’s playing the odds in my opinion, no one is fixture proof, simply various levels of fixture resilience. I have to admit, by Gameweek 4 I’d like him, though.

Andy says….
Coming from the Fantasy manager who went 31 of 38 gameweeks last season without Manchester United and Fantasy Football’s top scorer, and won the Scout Contributor’s league (I will brag while I still can!) in doing so, my answer to this question is probably pretty obvious. To me, the notion of the essential and must-have player is nothing but a fallacy. And that even includes Robin Van Persie.

The Dutch forward is arguably the best player currently plying his trade in the Premier League and will surely earn his crust for whichever Fantasy managers decide to hand over the mammoth price tag he has been handed across the Fantasy games. He’s safe, he’s secure, he’s prolific. He’s not essential though.

I’ve written many words in the past to support this claim but it boils down to the fact that I believe you can find alternative ways to spend your Fantasy budget to equal or greater effect. There’s more inherent “danger” involved in veering away from such Fantasy staples but it doesn’t mean you can’t succeed – a theory my 2012/13 season somehow managed to support.

Essentially, he’s not essential. But if there’s ever a good run of games where I think he’ll be the ideal captain choice, I’ll be the first to invest. Getting that armband choice right – or, more importantly, not getting it wrong when those around you get it right – is one aspect I do place a high priority on.

Tinkerman says…
Bale’s departure would certainly deprive us of an immense Fantasy talent and cause a huge rethink of strategy – especially for those whose draft squads currently rely on the Welshman’s explosive yet consistent returns for their weekly captaincy choice.

That said, I still don’t think Bale leaving necessarily makes Van Persie the only safe captaincy option from the start. Granted, we all know his capabilities but, with a wealth of premium midfielders offering high potential, there are plenty of ways to spend the extra budget you’d save by choosing to overlook the most expensive player in the game.

Managers avoiding Van Persie from the start would, however, leave themselves with a quandary should he prove to be the only reliable and consistent captaincy option after a few weeks. It would mean being forced into either spending points on transfer hits or activating the transfer wildcard early on. The option of initially avoiding Van Persie and bringing him in on a Gameweek 4 wildcard is one that has been discussed much on the boards – at this point, cheaper players who offer strong points potential will no doubt have emerged and will allow us to save money elsewhere in order to free up funds for the Dutchman. Since an early wildcard has proven to be a successful strategy for many managers in recent seasons, I think Bale leaving these shores wouldn’t make owning Van Persie from the start a must.

Ryan says….
The main argument for Van Persie’s essential status is that he would be a nailed-on captaincy option. As this is a new season, however, I am of the opinion that other strong armband candidates will appear as the campaign unfolds. The fact that RVP is so expensive almost compels you to captain him most weeks in order to justify his place in your side. This can act as a mental bias in one’s thought process and brings about a barrier which stops you captaining other potentially stronger options. I think it is best not to be shackled to the Dutchman and be more flexible in your armband picks.

Van Persie may not be β€˜essential’ but for the conservative manager, his incredible consistency makes him a reliable captain that will still bring home regular points. It might take some time to identify exactly who the best alternative captains are – until that time, Van Persie is a safe option to get you started.

Mark says…
Essential is a big word. I wouldn’t quite go that far but, for my money, Bale’s seemingly imminent departure has undoubtedly raised Van Persie’s stock.

I was all set to overlook him and opt for the Spurs man but now the landscape has changed and suddenly I’m setting up with the Dutchman as the foundation for my team, with the rest of my selections dropping in around him.

The armband is a major concern. Yes, there will be weekly candidates who emerge but few, if any, can get close to the consistency we saw from Van Persie for long spells last season.

I’m well aware that I’ve clung to him like a security blanket and that my faith in Van Persie has cost me dear in the past but I much prefer the idea of starting the season with him and assessing what value is available elsewhere, rather than be forced to carry out major surgery ahead of Gameweek 4.

Of course the early wildcard is the solution but I want to have the choice, not be forced to play it because Van Persie has delivered a goal a game and is about to embark on a run of favourable fixtures.

The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack. While Wayne Rooney flirted with the concept of offering an alternative last season, this time around that option looks unlikely. Unless Wilfred Zaha takes his opportunity or Shinji Kagawa cements the support role over Danny Welback, then it really is Van Persie or nothing.

While there are real concerns that David Moyes will struggle to inspire his team to the heights of previous campaigns, I see too much quality in the United lineup to risk overlooking them as an attacking force.

Essential? Not quite. Highly desirable and worth building your squad around? Right now, I really think so.

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  1. Wag the Drog
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    Deulofeu is at the top of my watch list.

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    1. DRIZ βœ…
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      swear down?

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      1. Wag the Drog
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        Indeed. Perfect fantasy 3rd striker for RVP owners. If he can make the first choice team that is.

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  2. Jimmys Burden
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    I know it's the same question over and over again but I don't seem to find any answers.

    So.. What indication do we have that Westwood is now the more likely Sunderland GK??

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    1. DRIZ βœ…
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      sunderland keeper is a no go for now

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    2. 4vets
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      There is none as far as I know.

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    3. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
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      news in the north east suggest Westwood deserves a chance. at least that's what's being bandied around on the sports programs on the radio over the last few weeks up here

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  3. Real Champion
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    Will Aguero start for City on Monday?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      No.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
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      How da f**k are we supposed to know?

      πŸ˜‰

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  4. Fifa las vegas
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    FFS: Repost:

    How's this looking?
    Boruc
    Terry, Toure, Koscielny
    Cabral, Walcott (vc), Coutinho, Hazard (c)
    RVP, Anelka, Sturridge

    subs: Olsson, Pozeulo, Mbiwa

    thoughts? Also, i am unsure whether to play olsson or Cabral 😐

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    1. Fin
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      Upgrade Cabral somehow.

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      1. Fifa las vegas
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        Hwhat might that somehow be though? πŸ˜€

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    2. Wag the Drog
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      Anelka is not a good choice.

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      1. Feed tha Sheep
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        why not??

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      2. Alonso14
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        why

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      3. Fifa las vegas
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        he'll do for the first few GW's

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  5. TheSteel
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    i think ive cracked the RvP code

    Boruc
    Collins Cole Mertersaker
    Hazard Lampard Snodgrass Walcott
    Anelka RvP Sturridge

    Chester Meyler Clyne
    4.0 prob Harper

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  6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    I think Dzeko will start v newcastle.

    I don't think minutes played today or amount of travel makes any difference due to the game being on Monday night.

    He is in form and the fact he played 90 mins is mainly down to the manager trusting his fitness and both Bosnia manager and Pellegrini accept he is match fit and the 90 mins would not impact him negatively.

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    1. DRIZ βœ…
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      lets hope so

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      whether he is a regular starter after that, it's anyone's guess

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    3. Woy of the Wovers
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      Classic pre-season double bluff.

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    4. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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      agreed...my other post was mainly in support of Negredo also starting

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  7. The Bearded One
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    Chelsea defender most likely to play 180 minutes in GW1? Currently on Cole.

    Help please. Thanks in advance.

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    1. Scottys Army
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      ivanovic

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    2. TheSteel
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      keep cole

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      1. best11s
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        ivanovic or cole.

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    3. The Bearded One
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      Thanks for comments guys, it's between them 2. Cole not playing tonight might just sway me to him.

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  8. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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    Seriously going off Rio Ferdinand.

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    1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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      Do you mean that once you saw him as a most amicable and courteous gentleman who you would gladly allow your daughters to see in a romantic situation?

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      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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        πŸ˜†

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  9. bdwhite91
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    How was Lambert today?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Wasn't on for long. Scored a decent goal, missed a sitter.

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      1. bdwhite91
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        Cheers. Just wondering if I should get him over Berba and now Altidore is tempting me :O

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    2. TheSteel
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      scored w his first touch of an international football

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    3. applebonkers
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      great header and i don't think a bad miss, was deflected slightly just before it got to him

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  10. JedJez
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    Why is Moyes on the panel for England v Scotland allowing himself to be asked awkward questions? Crazy

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    1. Fifa las vegas
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      trying to save uo a few pound

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    2. The Bandit
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      Thought this myself... Bunch of failed managers as well... Omen?

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    1. Kukkuu
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      Benteke, broken leg

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    2. Fin
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      😯

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    3. Epic Fail
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      If true, they might wish they sold him.

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      1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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        Hopefully for Aston Villa and entertaining football this isn't true.

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        1. The Bandit
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          It isn't

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          1. Grimmaldi - Send in the Clo…
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            Good stuff, I don't really get these types of nonsense rumours. I suppose it's a sense of power or some such thing.

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    4. The Bandit
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      Bullshit πŸ™„

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    5. β˜…FC Borecelonaβ˜…
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      Fake twitter rumour

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    6. ccc
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      😯

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    7. ccc
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      seeing a bit of stuff about it. wow. too bad if true. let's hope it is not as bad as some claim.

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  11. Fifa las vegas
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    Chamakh a good pick ya? πŸ˜‰

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    1. The Bearded One
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      He's in my team. So probably not.

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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        😯

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  12. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
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    Is it common knowledge you now get profits when selling players?

    Also:

    http://db.tt/1DNDlQTp

    Silva to Mirallas
    Upgrade turner to zabaleta or something??

    Cheers

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  13. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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    What happened in the Belgium match? Scorers, assists, minutes played? mainly for Lukaku, Hazard and Mirallas

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    1. bdwhite91
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      Scoreless draw.

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    2. applebonkers
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      0-0. lukaku 60 benteke 30 (he didn't even get injured let alone a leg break!)
      hazard about 70, mirallas about 20.

      sagna and koscielny kept hazard and lukaku quiet. de bruyne if anything was the biggest threat

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    3. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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      thanks fellas for the summary

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  14. Scottys Army
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    i hsve heard benteke has suffered a bad injury

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      it's a twitter rumour, don't worry. Confirmed as false

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    2. MJ6987
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      That Indykalia idiot on Twitter. Wum

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  15. Piggs Boson
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    This is probably irrelevant to this season but you can't downvote me so what the hell:

    Top 10 Goal-scoring Teams Last Season:

    United: 86
    Chelsea: 75
    Arsenal: 72
    Liverpool: 71
    Spurs: 66
    City: 66
    Everton: 55
    West Brom: 53
    Fulham: 50
    Southampton 49

    You know where these teams have strengthened this year so you can move teams up and down on how improved you think they'll be this season πŸ˜‰

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
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      Utd down. Liverpool up. Spurs up. City up

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      1. Wag the Drog
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        Liverpool down. for me

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
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          Not gonna happen.

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      2. Snikiii
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        United down,Pool Down Spurs down City Up Chelsea Up Arsenal the same

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  16. Jimmys Burden
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    Foster to keep em clean 3 out of the first 5?

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    1. sahota
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      I've got him but thats ambitious, I'd call it 2

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
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        I'd be happy with that.

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  17. Fifa las vegas
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    😯
    Darren Bent to Crystal Palace has been backed in from 5/4 to 1/5 this evening following a handful of maximum bets from renowned customers of Sky Bet. See all our transfer odds here.

    To CP??

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      Twitter says deal done.

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  18. Eoin
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    I know it's ridiculous getting over-excited by international friendlies. But Jozy Altidore with a hat-trick tonight just before a home game with Fulham. Any punters in these parts?

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      very tempting

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      1. Eoin
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        He's 1m too expensive for me to gamble I think

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    2. Scottys Army
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      hes in my team

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      1. FPL Daniel
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        Strong man. Loving the knee jerk :D. Who he plays for, how much it cost and fixtures..? Is he nailed on?

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    3. Cluub
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      I had him in last night.

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    4. hillbillypete
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      give over. not to mention he's overpriced

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      1. Eoin
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        Yeah, currently pondering my 6m forward. Not going to shuffle the pack for him.

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      2. Scottys Army
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        overpriced

        bony is as unproven and is dearer

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    5. tw
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      hat trick plus an assist!

      hard for me to see past soldado lukaku benteke for gw 1 though. with sturridge another viable alternative

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    6. Flicka
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      The fixtures are tempting me, but hard to fit in for GW1 with the DGW.

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    7. FFCBERB
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      No chance. Fulham D is much better than Bosnia D. Ses with hog the ball too. No Go!

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  19. tw
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    GB - why lamps over oscar?

    and why foster over ruddy?

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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      Why always Mario ?

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    2. Piggs Boson
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      Because I think Lampard will score more than Oscar πŸ™‚

      And Foster rotates beautifully with Boruc and I have Turner for Nowich defence.

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      1. tw
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        but why do you think he'll score more than oscar?

        yes but ruddy also has a nice rotation. do you rate wba defense more than norwich defense?

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        1. Piggs Boson
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          Lampard scores goals, lots and lots of goals and is very fit.. Oscar is a youngling with lots of competition.

          I want Turner, I think he's great value. Foster is good for save points as well. I'm not that much of a fan of the Ruddy/Boruc rotation anyway, there's a few dodgy weeks.

          I won't try to convince you anymore, I'm set on my choices πŸ™‚

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          1. GREENDREAMS11
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            Lamps played well tonight, the only issue is gametime, I would have him in a sec if i knew he was going to start

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    3. ViperStripes
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      Cheaper

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  20. applebonkers
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    cazorla goal to add to his assist for the negredo goal

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    1. bdwhite91
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      He'll get some good points. Just don't know if the 0.5 is worth it over Walcott. Unless you go with both...

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  21. FPL Daniel
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    Cazorlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Goal and assist combo. Drafts a Walcott and Caz combo πŸ˜›

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      😯

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  22. weetonyharris
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    Hi people, who would u captain this week?

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    1. Piggs Boson
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      Lamps.

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    2. sahota
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      Hazard

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  23. Mr Smith
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    Thoughts on the City back four for the first few games. Trying to work out if Lescott is worth a punt since I can't afford Zabs.

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    1. Baines on Toast...
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      I'm going for it. Good for at least two games, 3 if they don't sign and immediately instil Pepe.

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    2. sahota
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      Yeah I think Lescott will play

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      1. Mr Smith
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        Lovely jubbly.

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  24. antpro26
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    Would really appreciate any thoughts and comments on the following:

    A) Brayford, Snodgrass, (Ravel, Ward)

    B) Toure, Kim (Koren, Brayford)

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  25. Bollard
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    Dont get the Walcott worship really. Give him about 3 weeks and he will be in and out of the squad all season with niggles and injuries. The man built of the same stuff as a Pringle

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    1. Fitzy.
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      Yeah, he was hopeless last season wasn't he? πŸ™„

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
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      He is a lot stronger than he used to be. He is obviously still prone to injury because of his pace, but with his upper body strength helping him, you cant pass up a midfielder that gets so many goals.

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  26. Feed tha Sheep
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    A or B??

    a. Coleman and Nolan
    b. Collins and Miralles

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  27. bozo614
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    Thoughts on the City / Pool coverage below for GW1-GW3?

    A: Sturridge + Silva
    B: Dzeko + Coutinho

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  28. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    BREAKING NEWS: Etienne Capoue passes medical at Spurs

    Fee approx £9m

    Source: Sky sports news

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  29. Crouch Potato!
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    Etienne Capoue passes medical at Spurs, SSN.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      paulinho, sandro, capoue all fighting for the dm spot

      I guess 2 out of the 3 will start

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    2. MJ6987
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      Spurs spending like they are in for some sort of windfall!

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