[sbu_large_image] The Knee Jerk
23 November 2013 2700 comments
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A pulsating Merseyside derby gives us plenty to mull over as both sides’ attacks rack up the points. Romelu Lukaku’s return to form, Philippe Coutinho’s first strike of the season and a potential toe injury for Leighton Baines come under analysis this evening:

The Game Changer

Sold on by over 100,000 Fantasy Premier League managers leading up to today’s derby clash, Romelu Lukaku delivered a stinging blow to those who had lost faith by bullying his way to a brace.

With just a single goal in his last four matches, patience with the Belgian was undeniably paper thin in a landscape that has seen the heavy-hitting forwards deliver consistently. It was ironic, then, that Lukaku should overshadow Luis Suarez, despite the Uruguayan again offering his own growing army of owners a goal and an assist.

The day belonged to Lukaku, however, who reaffirmed his status as a value proposition for our forward lines with a second double figure haul of the campaign. A record of seven goals in eight league appearances for the Toffees speaks for itself and, on a day that also saw Olivier Giroud break his recent drought, it underlined the merits of holding firm, even when form suggests that looking elsewhere should be a priority.

The Underused

Phillipe Coutinho’s first goal of the season arrived in a match where his influence was overshadowed by the likes of Suarez and Lukaku – this was a far more muted performance than his showing in the 4-0 win over Fulham in Gameweek 11.

However, it’s returns that count and with Coutinho getting off the mark for the campaign, there will now be those considering whether the classy Brazilian prospect can find a level of consistency that could possibly warrant the 8.5 FPL outlay. Currently he claims just 5% ownership.

Clearly Suarez is the most vital option in the Liverpool attack but, with fixtures in their favour and Daniel Sturridge owners switching out in their thousands, there could yet be a place for Coutinho in our seasons, with the Brazilian’s strike no doubt catching the eye of those Fantasy managers looking to double up on Rodgers’ flourishing attack.

Liverpool have now scored 19 league goals in their last seven outings; Coutinho’s presence can surely only help maintain that kind of form.

The Selection Poser

With Roberto Martinez announcing post-match that Leighton Baines will undergo an x-ray on a toe injury, the left-back’s Fantasy owners will be anxiously waiting on results, whilst perhaps pondering whether the time has come to shift out the Toffees man.

Should there be doubt over his availability for the Gameweek 13 Goodison clash with Stoke, Baines will then be set for an away double header at United and Arsenal – it seems certain that he will have to turn to attacking points to justify his 7.7 value in those two matches.

His price tag is undeniably a factor. Despite claiming over 27% ownership in the FPL, Baines sits at just 0.2 above his initial FPL valuation and therefore a trade out would not lead to a significant loss of funds, whilst offering a sure route back once Everton’s fixtures ease.

The news on Baines’ toe could have a significant impact on next week’s transfer trends.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Xavi Iniesta
    • 12 Years
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    What defender shall I bring in for Shaw? I've got 4.8 to spend

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    1. JT's Dog
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Clyde is only one I can see for that price, Southampton with a hard games looks better than any of the crap teams against another side

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      1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Clyne

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    2. Obi Wan Elokobi
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      Maybe Yanga

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      1. Jax
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        nah newcastle are vulnerable at times

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        1. Obi Wan Elokobi
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          Yh fair point go for Vlaar

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      2. Dial Square
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        S Taylor is coming back.

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    3. FACUPARSE
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      Thought Arsenal would draw 1-1? Brains like soup

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      1. Xavi Iniesta
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        If Boruc didn't have a bet on Giroud to score then I'm pretty sure they would have. Fool.

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        1. FACUPARSE
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          It was 2-0 and they got boxed...

          Unlucky glory hunter

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          1. Xavi Iniesta
            • 12 Years
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            Wow. You're so clever. I think I'll just bow down to your superior footballing knowledge. Fair play mate.

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    4. Deulo10
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      Hmmm... Williams? But Swansea defense has been terrible lately...maybe Vlaar?

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  2. TokyoRed 東京赤
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    The Boruc Turn: the exact opposite of the Cryuff Turn

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  3. Declan
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    Bottom of last page

    Mods, How did you get to mod status?

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    1. Ryan
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      Ask Mark

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      1. Ryan
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        *Jonty

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        1. Declan
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          Did you apply or were you approached? Im geniunely interested.

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          1. Ryan
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            Either or I think. Some were approached, others asked I think. Not totally sure.

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          2. TorresMagic™
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            Originals were asked. Later mods have been either, more often asked.

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          3. JT's Dog
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            They put out request early in year if I remember, think baby duties along with size of site resulted in help needed. Ask mark direct if need more

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          4. Declan
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            Cheers Lads.

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    2. JT's Dog
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Buy a Vespa

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      1. Declan
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        🙂

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    3. TorresMagic™
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      Mark/Jonty will find you if they think you'll do a good job I guess.

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      1. r0nh
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        This isnt true, as they havent contacted me yet.

        And I am clearly more than capable of doing an excellent job.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Mods have to be human.

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        2. JT's Dog
          12 years, 7 months ago

          That's the problem , you will be excellent , they only want those who get to level of good

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          1. r0nh
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            I'm over-qualified?

            I concur.

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    4. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      They ask. Time and time again. I'm sick of it. Wish they'd both just leave me alone. 🙁

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      1. Declan
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        Oh you.

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  4. BantamPhil
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    Repost

    I'm in no rush to make transfers this week and will probably wait till after European matches. However I would like to catch Walcott's first big haul and I'm also getting fed up of Clichy's lack of nailed on-ness

    Which is the best option?
    A) Yaya to Walcott
    B) Oscar to Walcott
    C) Yaya to Hazard
    D) Clichy to cheaper defender
    E) Save transfer

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    1. Bests Conquests
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      Save it. Walcot might still be eased in. Need to see just how, where he'll be used.

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    2. Cevap
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      still not 100 % fit...wait 2 more weeks

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    3. BantamPhil
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      Thanks for advice

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  5. r0nh
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/352318/KO-fear-for-Man-Utd-hitman-Robin-Van-Persie

    Daily Star are running with the RVP story, saying he missed training, but "a late decision will be made on his fitness."

    http://mufclatest.com/robin-van-persie-nemanja-vidic-out-of-cardiff-match/?

    This site admittingly said they are just reporting the gossip, "whilst I do not normally believe press rumours about players missing matches, I thought I would publish this anyway, and by 3pm tomorrow, we should know if it is correct, or not."

    Hopefully it's just lazy journalism.

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    1. HVT
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      You (c) him didn't u ?
      :worried:

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      1. r0nh
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        Yes 🙁

        Aguero (VC) though

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        1. HVT
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          Aguero , Suarez Rooney and one has points in the bag that you'd gladly take now !
          Why not just get Fer (beast) in ?

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          1. r0nh
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            Cause RVP is lethal if fit.

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            1. HVT
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              The better Duychman you thinks ?

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      We will know soon enough Ronhy. As a Rooney (c) I am hoping they are true 😉

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      1. r0nh
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        Thanks for your comfort 🙁

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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          It's a tough world out there, every man for himself!!!!

          😉

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      2. HVT
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        You won't beat us in Fsntrax - giving away (MJ) Ivsn didn't help.

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  6. karankachiefs
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    Are there any other worried Rooney captainers out there?

    Really need at least 10 points out of him to get a half decent score.

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    1. Cevap
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      i'm thinking at least a brace (non-owner)

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    2. Magerost
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      A bit worried, hope RVP is out

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  7. Gaz Downright
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    Jimmy Nielsen (SKC goalie) reminds me of a poorly authored 80s wrestling bad guy / second to last opponent in a JCVDamme movie.

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  8. HVT
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    @turd . Great rank I checked it out , sorry if I was cynical earlier a lot of spoofs on here my bad to confuse you with them.

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    1. The3rdTurd
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      No worries, it was a fair comment.

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      1. HVT
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        I don't link either (rank is shite)
        Anonymous.

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      Speaking of that though, I never understood why this is even an issue. If you know the poster, it will soon show itself if is untrue anyway (why lie though?). And if you don't know him/her, then who gives a s*** 🙂

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      1. HVT
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        Rank is why we are here , turds is excellent my gw38 last year (1500ish) was good IMO.

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          dont think i got my point across

          nm..

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    3. BeachBadger
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      You know what I also don't like? People who ignore other peoples advice simply cos they aren't ranked high.

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  9. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET4rM4TnJgg

    #1DDay live stream!!!!! xxxx

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      Benching Lukaku for Snodgrass 😯

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      1. The Gambler.
        • 16 Years
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        For show!

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    2. JT's Dog
      12 years, 7 months ago

      You thought snoddy away a better shout than lukaku home?

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      1. The Gambler.
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        12 years, 7 months ago

        Predict my overall rank after tomrw lol

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        1. JT's Dog
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Was snoddy announced out before the GW started, I never noticed.

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        2. JT's Dog
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Think you need a couple of goals tomorrow, even with bench points

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          1. The Gambler.
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            12 years, 7 months ago

            Top 500 I hope

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    3. Dial Square
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      If you had real tekkers you'd have given Snoddy the armband.

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      1. The Gambler.
        • 16 Years
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        True!

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    4. Setting the Toney
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      you don't deserve lukaku's points tbh, pure stupidity 😛

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    5. FACUPARSE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

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    6. OShaughnessy
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      Fantasy Rule #6 "Don't be cute. Start your studs..."

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  11. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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    Do people really actually ask to be made mods?

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    1. Declan
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      Look what I've started.

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        I just find it funny 🙂

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        1. Declan
          • 16 Years
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          me too, is 4vets really gone AWOL due to being p*ssed off with moderation on the site?

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          1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
            • 15 Years
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            Yes

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            1. Declan
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              shame really 🙁

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              1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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                Yeah, but can't say I blame him.

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                1. Declan
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                  Agreed.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      Not really. Just Granville.

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    3. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      No one really knows. Jonty organises it all so you'll only get a reliable answer out of him.

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  12. takemehome
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    12 years, 7 months ago

    ozil to walcott or wait

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    1. Xavi Iniesta
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      Wait.

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    2. Cevap
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      wait 2 weeks

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  13. Bests Conquests
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    I'm just at a loss going forward and hope other options start to really emerge.

    Arsenal: Giroud, Ozil, Walcott, Ramsey, Mertesacker, Gibbs, Koscielny
    Liverpool: Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho, Glen Johnson, Mignolet

    All are great bets in and of themselves. But it's just madness to pair Coutinho-Suarez-Migs or Ramsey-Walcott and really any other combination.

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  14. Xavi Iniesta
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Points predictions for Benteke vs WBA?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      12 years, 7 months ago

      Pointless.

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      1. Xavi Iniesta
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Serious?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 17 Years
          12 years, 7 months ago

          Ok, 2 points for playing.

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          1. Xavi Iniesta
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 7 months ago

            You're fun.

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      reckon he'll get a goal in a 1-1 draw

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  15. tw
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    looks like I brought in the wrong one of GJ or mert... 🙁

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
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      Always next week.

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      1. tw
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        good point. cheers mate!

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          It's 11-1 or whatever. Only counts til Jan WC.

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  16. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    45 points (-4) with Rooney(c) - Nasri - B. Turner - Ridgewell
    Very dependant on Rooney here!

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      I hear ya.

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
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      I know what you mean

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    3. tw
      • 14 Years
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      46 with rooney (c) and januzaj here

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  17. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Great... 4 man SKC defence cleanie gone within 3 minutes

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  18. izo
    • 13 Years
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    Is Brady injured again?

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    1. Cevap
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      not sure, maybe was just being eased into match...or could have been a precaution

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
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      Still struggling it seems

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  19. BeachBadger
    • 12 Years
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    A shaky start to the week, but looking at my line up for next week makes me quite happy. No pressing transfers (I think) now that Barkley is back in the first team. What should I do? 0.7 in the bank 1 FT

    A) Finally get rid of Wilson
    B) Ditch Ozil for being too expensive
    C) Save transfer

    I know it's all speculative on further games this weekend but I'd like an idea of what to do. Team linked.

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    1. Cevap
      • 15 Years
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      get rid of snoddy or wilson

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      1. BeachBadger
        • 12 Years
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        Why Snoddy? Is he out for long?

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    2. BantamPhil
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Might wanna get rid of wilson if your defence looks bad for next week, otherwise save transfer

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      1. BeachBadger
        • 12 Years
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        Defence is solid for next week. cheers.

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  20. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
    • 14 Years
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    Looks like i picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue 🙂

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      surely not?

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  21. CHANCING PUNT
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    I'm a United fan and I think we'll struggle tomorrow.

    Decent defensive unit are Cardiff at home, and we're missing a few key players if everything is to be believed. RvP, Vidic, Carrick, Jones, Rafael all from the first XI missing.

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    1. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
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      Hope so

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    2. Declan
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      It's Cardiff, 3-1 Utd

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 13 Years
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        What is that supposed to mean?

        Title challengers never struggle away at promoted teams do they?

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    3. Jax
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      nah united will win 2-0 i reckon.

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 13 Years
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        I think we'll nick a 1-0 or maybe a 2-1 but it's not going to be an easy win at all.

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    4. Magerost
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Rooney hattrick

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    5. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 15 Years
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      Hope you are wrong, CP, need Wayne (c) to deliver some damage.

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 13 Years
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        People need to take their FPL hats off sometimes (not you, but people thinking this will be a walk).

        Missing our best striker, best midfielder and best centre back. And City have lost there already. This won't be easy.

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  22. OPTA FPL
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    Ozil on pens now with Arteta injury, f3ck off Gru!

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    1. Dial Square
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      I think Giroud would take penalties before Ozil tbh but what injury?

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      1. The Gambler.
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        Tweet tweet

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
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        check Scout Tweet

        Wenger: "Giroud is designated third penalty taker, Ozil is second".

        Mikel Arteta subbed off with knock against Southampton

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        1. Dial Square
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          cheers.

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  23. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
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    if anyone wants to see a cracking match

    right now: Sporting Kansas City vs Houston Dynamo in 2nd leg MLS Conference final.

    away team Dynamo is up 0-1 on aggregate after 3 minutes, and SKC looks like they are up for a fight

    cracking

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  24. Ady87
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    1 FT - £2.3m ITB

    Boruc - K.Davis
    Clyne - Terry - Pieters - Rosenior - Whittaker
    Oscar - Ramsey - Nasri - Cabaye - Januzaj
    Suarez - Aguero - Rooney

    Boruc & Clyne > Migs and 6.1m Def?

    Any other transfers worth making over this? I suppose i could do just Boruc..

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  25. McSauce
    • 16 Years
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    Best forward and best mid for next week??

    17.7m to spend 2FT!!

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    1. Cevap
      • 15 Years
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      rooney and sess

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    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      suarez and ravel

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      1. Cevap
        • 15 Years
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        already has suarez?

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  26. Doctor X
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    CURRENT FRONT 8:
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    Ozil - Oscar - Sessegnon - Nasri - Livermore
    Sturridge - Remy - Aguero

    PLANNED TRANSFERS:
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    Sturridge + Ozil > Suarez + Morrison (-4)

    Considering that I really need to get Suarez and that Ozil is heavily inconsistent for a 10+ midfielder, does it look prudent to do this? I don't fancy any of the 'bigger' midfielders at the moment and not sure if I want to double up with Hazard or Coutinho.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Cevap
      • 15 Years
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      i assume you are speaking of ravel? i think suarez is critical right now the second transfer does not matter... 🙂

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    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      do it.

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      1. Doctor X
        • 14 Years
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        Haha. Since I'm getting rid of my most 'premium' midfielder, it does. A tiny bit 😉 Thanks lads.

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
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      Aguero --> Suarez
      Next: Ozil --> Walcott
      Next: Nasri --> Silva

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      1. Jax
        • 16 Years
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        makes no sense.

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        1. OPTA FPL
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          why?
          3 players transfer in will outscore 3 players out, right?

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  27. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
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    1-1!!

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
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      assist?

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        • 15 Years
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        unassisted

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  28. Declan
    • 16 Years
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    How a hole in one only wins you a car on a sunday is beyond me, what a load of ball cocks.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/23/sport/golf/manley-hole-in-one-car-agony/index.html

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    1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
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      I had a 1 in my younger years. It cost 200 at the bar and I got a JN golf book for my troubles

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  29. Dial Square
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Kevin Pietersen out - Bowled Johnson, Caught Sub.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 17 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      Cheers for update.

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  30. Magerost
    12 years, 7 months ago

    Suarez or Aguero captain next week?
    Mcgregor or Boruc?

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    1. Cevap
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 7 months ago

      aguero
      mcgregor at home

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      1. Magerost
        12 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks!

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