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15 September 2014 1279 comments
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Gameweek 4 comes to its conclusion this evening as Hull play host to West Ham at the KC. It’s one of those occasions where a goalless draw may best serve Fantasy managers – neither team has a midfielder or attacker with over 3% ownership in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game, a clear sign of our lack of faith in their respective attacks.

The team news is in and sees Steve Bruce make two changes from the side that lost to Villa last time around. New boys Mo Diame and Abel Hernandez both come into the starting XI at the expense of Tom Ince and Paul McShane, while fellow deadline-day signings Hatem Ben Arfa and Gaston Ramirez are afforded a place on the bench. James Chester is also amongst the subs as the Tigers boss opts for a four-man backline.

Sam Allardyce makes a trio of alterations to his first-team. Guy Demel comes in for Joey O’Brien at right-back, while summer signings Diafra Sakho and Enner Valencia get the nod as Carlton Cole and Ricardo vaz Te drop to the bench. Carl Jenkinson recovers from injury to be named amongst the subs along with new boys Alex Song and Morgan Amalfitano.

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  1. jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Robertsons' a must have! #truestory

  2. Christina.
    12 years, 1 month ago

    chester stay on the bench you loser

  3. halnone
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I really needed that 2nd Downing assist 🙁

  4. colakim3
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Watching Hull - Hammers, what are those weird markings on the pitch, dividing it into 6?

    1. jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
      12 years, 1 month ago

      rugby?

      1. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Can't see it being anything else...

        That our the three of us all had the same *bad* acid?

  5. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Debuchy > Tripper? I like the look of Burnley's next 4 fixtures

    1. emperikal
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Might as well go Duff. Tripper hasn't shown that he's worth the extra cash

  6. Ludo
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Is there any poor soul that's had Curtis Davies the last two weeks?

    Villa away and West Ham at home - sounds alright that... -1 both times!

    1. Feanor
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I have him in Sky. FML.

    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      12 years, 1 month ago

      yes. tipping me over the WC button

    3. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      12 years, 1 month ago

      o/

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Benched him last week, though almost played him ahead of Cahill. Can't believe he has done this to me today. . .

    4. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yup

    5. BantamPhil
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Beforehand you would have thought 12 points could be very possible from those two fixtures

      1. Ludo
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Certainly more likely than -2! Harsh luck chaps.

    6. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Brought him in as a sub in UFPL

    7. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      FPL,Sky, Telegraph and Mail. 😥

      1. Ludo
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Did you go for Hernandez or Jelavic in the end ILF?

        1. In Like Flynn.
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          One in each team Ludo.

  7. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Whoops... Posted this in a dead thread by mistake.

    So, I have this team in a 10 person draft fantasy league. Squad size is 16 people. And I've absolutely killed it with my draft picks followed by some crazy wheeling and dealing.

    Anyway, here's the team:

    Forster - Adrian
    Vertonghen - Toby Alderwerald - Pieters - PvA - Rafael
    Fabregas - Eriksen - Sterling - Yaya - Siggy - Walcott
    Rooney - Balotelli - Adebayor

    Had Debuchy and Jones but decided to drop them after the injuries. Hurt my defense pretty bad. I'm tempted of making a Balo + Siggy offer for Aguero - would you do that in my place?

    1. tw
      12 years, 1 month ago

      balo + eriksen maybe?

      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Think Eriksen will score lesser than Siggy over the course of the season?

        I fancy Eriksen's quality to shine through by the end. Feel like Balo + Eriksen is definitely overpaying for Aguero's hammy's personally.

    2. OrmskirkFC
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'm in a ten-man draft league myself. Are Hernandez or Valencia still available on waivers?

      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Nope. Valencia was available but he got picked up as a free agent a few minutes back.

        1. OrmskirkFC
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Interesting, maybe I'm in a crappy draft league because we're allowed 20 players on our roster and there are some great players left to pickup. If Chadli is still available, maybe the offer of Balotelli and Eriksen for Aguero and then pickup Chadli? If you offer Siggy instead, is Dyer available for pickup?

          1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Nope - Chadli and Dyer are both gone. Zaha is still available though.

            Yeah - my squad is miles above all the others IMO. Had a great draft (Eriksen, Sterling, Walcott as picks 3,4,5 for me were great while others were picking keepers/defenders). Then managed to make some very good trades exchanging multiple decent players for some good ones and picking up more decent ones from the free agent market. Currently got 4 wins out of 4. Made 204 points total. Guys after me in total points are at 173, 164, 164, 153 so pretty significant.

            (Remember - no captains and no bonus points. Though there are small extras players can gain for tackles/interceptions/big chances created).

    3. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Do *not* get rid of a starting fwd. Ever.
      There are so few of them that even start most games, let alone score.
      I'd suggest selling Yaya for another heavy hitter up front.
      Hear me know & believe me later... You'll need 4, minimum.

      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks!

        Hmm - who would you suggest trying to get for Yaya? I'd personally like to sell him as well - don't rate him very highly.

        I would generally agree with you but I honestly feel like I could just switch to 3-5-2 if one of my forwards got injured etc.

        1. OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Pellé?

          Just think Giroud or Lambert types from last year.
          The *only* front man on a decent side are the kind of guys you want to target.
          They're worth their weight in gold in a draft style game.

          Think who did better last year: the Aguero owner or the Lambert owner?

          Grinders & full time players are truly more important than points per game averages.

          1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Taken. Only foward I see available right now is Riviere. I don't understand though... why do I need another forward when I have Rooney/Balo/Ade?

            I do agree with you but Aguero/Costa seem tempting to me. They have the potential to settle a tie on their own.

            It's head to head games so that helps.

            1. OShaughnessy
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Yes, grab Riviere.

              Reason being is the position is just so thin. Most teams only have *one* nailed on striker & you've got to deal with injuries, rest, rotation, bad matchups & blank game weeks to boot.

              The three of those guys ain't gonna get you through the rough Xmas & late spring crunch of matches.

              Those in your league who don't get depth up front may be forced to play a 460 some weeks.

              1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Fair point though I don't see why I can't play a 3-5-2 at those points though. I have a solid midfield for certain.

                4-6-0 isn't allowed in our game - same formations as FPL.

  8. gers23
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Barfa on for winner?

  9. Syd.
    12 years, 1 month ago

    The Hull defence without Chester is a bit of a shambles

    1. Barry Woj
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Probably best to leave it that way for the rest of the game though ey

  10. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    My defence for this gw is collo (HUL) Moreno (whu) Bertrand (swa) Moore (MUN) and Chester.

    I can change Chester for free (naylor probably) - should. Do it or just play Bertrand or Moore and play?

    1. emperikal
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Just play Bertrand and Moore

      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        One of them

  11. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
    12 years, 1 month ago

    We could potentially look like this post January transfer window:

    DDG

    Rojo/Blind/Hummels

    Di Maria/Herrera/Vidal/Ramsey/Shaw

    Falcoa/Ronaldo

    1. Exilizer
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hummels is more unlikely than Ronaldo return..

      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He has been begging to come for ages though.

        1. Exilizer
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Really where did you hear that? daily mail?

          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            12 years, 1 month ago

            I'm guessing.

    2. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Is this a serious post?

      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        ?

        1. Professor Abel X
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          How on earth will Ramsey be there?

          1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
            12 years, 1 month ago

            He's been requesting private meetings with Van Gaal.

            1. Puncheon Debuchery
              12 years, 1 month ago

              haha!

      2. tw
        12 years, 1 month ago

        delusional

        1. Exilizer
          12 years, 1 month ago

          This.

    3. emperikal
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Ramsey? Highly doubt it but Vidal/Strootman + Hummels would be welcome additions!

      1. emperikal
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Not to mention Cristiano 😉

      2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He's an ambitious bloke.

    4. Not Irish
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You forgot Casillas.

      1. emperikal
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Casillas needs to just retire. Hasn't look good in years

      2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Dave the Save though...

        1. Not Irish
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Wait. This is a serious post?

    5. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lol

    6. Mull
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😀

    7. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Dream on. Would be some team though!

    8. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Troll?

    9. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'm guessing Messi's on the bench?

      1. tw
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😆

      2. Mull
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Not good enough to wear the Manchester red!

      3. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Barca would want probably 80m+ and we would not pay that for a player.

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          🙂

    10. ZakAFC_
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Ramsey? Hahaha

    11. cowstria
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lol hummels

    12. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Alright, I get the picture. I'll try when there are fewer bitter ABUs on.

  12. Exilizer
    12 years, 1 month ago

    end to end now. good stuff.

  13. Pinatta
    12 years, 1 month ago

    What a good game to watch.

  14. rickardinho
    12 years, 1 month ago

    The 4 goal scorers tonight have a combined 0.7% ownership.

    Safe to say I won't be losing any sleep over this (ie. unless Chester comes on to score)

  15. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Team:

    DDG, (Elliot)

    Baines - Cahill - Robertson - Wisdom - Bartley

    Hazard - Ramsey - Sterling - Aarons - Marney

    Costa - Ballotelli - Naismith

    Worth WC or not?

    Ps who thought hull vs west ham would be a good game?!

  16. Puzzle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    My defense of Terry, Davies and PvA on for a grand total of -2 😆

    1. BantamPhil
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Goalkeeper? Unlucky fella

      1. Puzzle
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        De Gea, only one who didn't fail miserably. I had decent hopes for my defense this week for once, but failed worse than I ever could imagine.

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Match not over yet 😉

  17. Bouncebackability
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Terry and Davies owner here. Them the breaks. Painful.

    1. Puzzle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      See above! Rest of the team saved my GW at least.

    2. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      My team was almost Terry-Davies-Shaw prior to gw1. Thankfully I saw sense/got lucky 🙂

  18. havel
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Two consecutive -1. New low for Mr.Curtis Davis. And yes I own him. F***

  19. Syd.
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Diame off

    Chester on

    🙂 🙂

    1. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      So Chester 1 pt instead of Chamber 1 pt

    2. BantamPhil
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I wish you'd sod off

      1. Syd.
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Lovely chap

  20. Jaok
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Betrand or Clyne for debuchy?

  21. Dr Dream
    12 years, 1 month ago

    WHAM going to be high in the attacking stats for the GW again tonight...

  22. Captain Shirokov
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I genuinely can't believe people still take Poseidon seriously.

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I don't think that many do. He constructs a mean team though.

  23. jurgenizer | TRIPEIROS
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ben Arfas's belly coming in...

    1. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Aye greggs in Newcastle must have been gutted to see him go.

  24. Back on the horse
    12 years, 1 month ago

    2-2. ideal

  25. MJ6987
    12 years, 1 month ago

    They should have brought Chester on to shore things up at 2-1.

    No chance now.

  26. Declan
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Chester staying benched

  27. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Any clue as to why Chester didn't play? What do you think of his future prospects?

    1. MJ6987
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Tactical change to 4 at the back and Chester is third choice. Whether he get back in depends if Bruce decides to go back to 3 at the back.

      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Damn. I didn't know he was third choice. Ugh!

        Should I transfer him out? Or keep him for now?

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hull reverted to a back four, so Dawson was favoured over Chester

      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Damn. See above?

  28. Defcons are for Kinnear
    12 years, 1 month ago

    15 nail biting minutes for Chester owners. Stay on the bench

  29. waltzingmatildas
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Wow, what an awful week. Tempted to wc but I think my team is ok. Thinking of debuchy and coloccini to Clyne and trippier or bardsley for -4?

  30. Flicka
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Yes! Barfa and Ramirez subs.

    1. Doc Drogo
      12 years, 1 month ago

      And relax - no Chester