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14 December 2014 4120 comments
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The Gameweek rolls on courtesy of a clash between two old foes. United host Liverpool in an Old Trafford cauldron to provide a tumultuous start to the day’s action which concludes with Tottenham’s visit to the Liberty Stadium to face Swansea.

This afternoon is all about events in Manchester, however, as old rivalries are renewed against a backdrop which finds both sides battling to maintain a challenge for a top four place. United’s lot is much improved following five straight wins, whilst pressure on Brendan Rodgers mounts following a string of poor results and hollow performances.

The team news finds Louis van Gaal tinkering once again. It appears that the Dutchman has reverted to a 4-4-2, recalling fit-again Phil Jones and Jonny Evans to his defence, with Marcos Rojo sidelined with a training ground injury. Despite Falcao’s availability, James Wilson comes into the attack alongside the revived Robin van Persie, with Wayne Rooney presumably adopting a withdrawn role or even deployed in wide areas.

Rodgers also makes changes – big ones at that. Simon Mignolet is the fall guy after an assortment of abject displays between the sticks: Brad Jones is the beneficiary as the Belgian drops to the bench. He’s joined by Rickie Lambert and the returning Mario Balotelli, as the Liverpool boss looks set to give Raheem Sterling a run in attack, deploying the likes of Adam Lallana and Philippe Coutinho to buzz around him in support; an intriguing set-up.

The Old Trafford clash is followed shortly after by our tea-time fixture as Spurs drop in on Garry Monk’s Swansea – a scenario which will have Fantasy managers willing Gylfi Sigurdsson to raise his game and return points against his former employers.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Heels_Over_Head
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    referees seem to be having a very bad season

    time to get female refs 😉

    1. rickardinho
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Maybe Blatter was onto something...

      "to increase viewership of womens football they should wear more revealing clothing"... 😀

      1. Whazza
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        tits or gtfo 😀

      2. Bolivian Seaman
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        He honestly said that?

        1. Heels_Over_Head
          • 12 Years
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          yeah, he's awful

          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
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            What an utter c**t

        2. rickardinho
          • 11 Years
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          i paraphrased, but its basically what he said... i think his exact words were "tighter clothing ho ho ho"

      3. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Wow

  2. rickardinho
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Mignolet makes the save on Rooney's shot

    A) Yes
    B) No

    1. Mr. Grv
      • 11 Years
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      B

      1. Mr. Grv
        • 11 Years
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        Not much u can do when a player gets a open goal

    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
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      A

    3. davies
      • 11 Years
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      B)

      He's just as shite.

    4. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
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      He would've dived the right way at least 😆

      1. rickardinho
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        The shot wasn't even in the corner. Mignolet makes saves like that every game.

        1. Ady87
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah...but he would have spilled it for RVP.

  3. chonks
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    would you change pelle/wanyama/taylor for bony/downing/baines with -8?

    1. Danny x-factor
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Not for -8. To much.

  4. pistol_pete
    • 12 Years
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    Really need a De Gea clean sheet here.

  5. GlasgowFF
    • 14 Years
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    Even if RVP did get a touch on it there is no referee in the world who could be expected to see it.

    1. davies
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      How come we all saw it then? 🙄

      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        This

        1. Ady87
          • 12 Years
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          TV helps.

      2. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
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        because you're looking from a different angle and with replays 🙄

    2. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      If u can't see a 2 metre offside, you shouldn't be a ref at all

    3. rickardinho
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      If there is no referee in the world who can see that, its time for video reviews. Or mandatory glasses for all refs.

    4. Jack Frost
      • 15 Years
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      exactly. Having a big discussion about that in another forum.

      1. Jack Frost
        • 15 Years
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        ah, a misplaced exactly... I think video review might come sometime in the next 50 years for scoring plays. Kind of changes the game though, you won't be able to argue about stuff over a beer. Too sanitized.

        1. Debauchy
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Better to have the right decision than arguments over a beer surely ?

  6. Not Irish
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    Philosophy = perfection 😎

    1. Heels_Over_Head
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      pass me some of what you're drinking

      1. Not Irish
        • 12 Years
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        It's OK. The title is ours, mate.

        1. Heels_Over_Head
          • 12 Years
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          you root for Chelsea?

          I support Everton

          1. Not Irish
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Oh stop it. Everyone supports United.

            1. TeamSteam
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              * Noone.

            2. RÏɠBY
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              west ham ?

  7. kesh
    • 11 Years
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    It doesn't MATA if he's offside...

    I'll get my coat.

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Wadsa Mata you?
      Why a you look a so sad?

    2. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      surprised you still own a coat with that act.

    3. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Please do

  8. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
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    "Biggest game of the season"

  9. Tinchy Sneijder
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Man U are becoming ridiculously clinical in front of goal, in their past few games there had as many shots as goals. They are now a smash and grab team now

    1. Woeisme
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah, they have never ever been clinical in front of goal before ?

  10. davies
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Coutinho off for Balotelli, me thinks.

    1. Whazza
      • 13 Years
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      Nope imo

  11. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    LOL at fpl giving the rvp assist

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      OPTA have officially given it as a RVP assist. Confirmed Bemba.

  12. Prime
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    If you think refereeing in England is bad, watch what happend in Belgium yesterday:
    http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/kortrijk-denied-a-goal-v-gent-in-belgium-as-officials-award-a-shocking-ghost-corner-video/

    Goal disallowed and corner given.

    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      What the actual feck? 😆

    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Wow.

  13. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    well this is going swimmingly 🙄

    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Utd are shite..We're not setting the place alight but that's hard to stomach

      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        United may be shite but they are playing well

        1. TeamSteam
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          No.

          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 14 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            2-0 I'm happy with that, good goals too

            1. TeamSteam
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Theres a difference in playing well and beeing up 2-0. Funny that United "fans" think 2yard offside goals count as "good goals". Holy moly.

              1. Ryan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 14 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                I don't believe RVP touched it

                1. TeamSteam
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 3 months ago

                  I dont care what you believe.

                  1. Ryan
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 3 months ago

                    I don't care what you believe 😕 where is this debate going?

        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          You're really not.

        3. Debauchy
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Not in my eyes they aint , but taken their chances I guess

          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 14 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            They were solid chances too and put away clinically. Can't say the same about Liverpool

  14. rickardinho
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Video replays.

    Isn it ridiculous that in 2014 goals are allowed to stand in massively important games (not least financially) when the whole world can clearly see it is a yard offside 4.5seconds after it has happened?

    A) Video review should be allowed
    B) Keep it as it is

    1. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A

    2. mipola
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A

    3. Not Irish
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      B

      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Lol what if Sterling scored like that just now

    4. nevertrustbony
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      B

      1. nevertrustbony
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        reason being where do you draw the line, say there is a video replay and there is a slight foul 10 seconds, 25 seconds or a minute before goal should the goal stand?!

        1. rickardinho
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Just get the big decisions right. 95% of contentious decisions are quite obvious... like sterlings "offside" goal at the etihad last season for example...

    5. Licky
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A) Talk of it disrupting the flow of the game is utter shite.

    6. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      B.

      I hate that football is increasingly a TV sport.

      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        you're missing the point

      2. Barry Woj
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        haha what does that even mean? Do you watch every game live : / ?!

        1. Jack Frost
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          B. I like the constant argument over human failure by all of us who are perfect.

    7. Barry Woj
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Definitely A. Look at how good goal line tech is. Surely something similar could be implemented for video replays. That said you can see why the assistant missed it, the RVP flick is by no means obvious.

    8. UnderstandablyDistraught
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A this is the modern world

    9. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A, obviously.

    10. Big Sum
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      B

    11. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
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      B

    12. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A. If there's a goal in question give em 30 seconds or so

    13. rickardinho
      • 11 Years
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      Agree with the majority here, A 100%.

      The "flow of the game disruption" argument doesn't fly. In fact I think the game might even flow better if we had swift and accurate decision-making.

      1. Barry Woj
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Exactly, look how well goal line tech works. The players know it's right and so there's no fuss or surrounding the ref. If it's a goal you'll know soon enough...

    14. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      b

      video replays = slower play and more commericals

      1. chrisjdgrady
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        No. It's obvious when someone is offside in a replay doesn't take long at all and can be relayed to the ref

    15. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A

    16. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A

    17. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A. Its a matter of time , why drag heels any longer

  15. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Where did my top of the page post go 🙁

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      The page moved.

    2. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Oh it moved to last post on last page 😀 great

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        There was a vote and it wasn't deemed 'top of the page' quality I'm afraid.

        1. Whazza
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Damn, had an upvote and all! 😀

  16. Les Bleus
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    United: since the first half against Southampton have had 5 shots and converted 4 goals.

    1. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Smash and grab.

  17. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Balo coming on lol

    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      for?

      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        nothing.

  18. Gaffa914
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Balo coming on

  19. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
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    Fpl has got it wrong. Can't be rvp assist. Referee and linesman decided he didn't touch it

    1. FPLEL
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Exactly my thoughts Can it be rescinded?

      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        It has to be. It's technically not his assist. There is no way they can give it to rvp

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Just send an email or 20.

        2. FPLEL
          • 11 Years
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          Logically it should be. I'm just wondering if FPL can/will do it.

        3. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          They won't change it though. If the refs don't disallow it, and RvP touched it, it's RvP's assist.

        4. Whazza
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          maybe if X people email them and complain they will change it

        5. Ludo
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          He got the last touch on the ball before it fell to the goalscorer. That's technically his assist.

        6. DLL18
          • 14 Years
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          Of course, we should all believe the referee and not the video evidence that says otherwise.

    2. Kerz
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Exactly.

    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Or they didn't think Mata was offside...

    4. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      how can you know this is true?

    5. Iwantmorepointsthanks
      • 12 Years
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      agree.

    6. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      It's irrelevant.

    7. HP.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Email them

    8. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
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      Spot on

    9. Chelskimagi
      • 13 Years
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      That is Bs. Many goals are offside goals and the assist still stands

      1. HP.
        • 12 Years
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        You wouldn't be sending any emails if you had Rvp in your team. Bitter.

  20. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Rooney 3 bps despite yc? Op

    1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Apart from goal, Mata did nothing.

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      machine.

      Come on Wazza!

  21. Get up ya bum
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    getting points for that rooney goal. Bleurgh

    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Feels awful doesn't it? 🙁

  22. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I should use this post to

    1) Whine
    2) Make a list of options for you to choose from
    3) grumble grumble

    1. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      You actually did 2)

      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I also repeated 1) technically lol

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      To be honest, I love bullet point/numbered posts.

      2, and its of them

  23. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Some half time reading for u

    Check out this article I wrote on Yannick Bolasie last night -

    http://www.90min.com/posts/1654471-yannick-bolasie-s-best-skills-and-the-one-area-he-must-improve

  24. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Both teams should be deducted points. Awful football.

    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      +1

    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Two good goals from United

      1. TeamSteam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        THE SECOND ONE WAS 2 YARDS OFFSIDE AND WAS THEREFORE NOT A GOOD GOAL U MUPPET

        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          RVP didn't touch it. I agree with the linesman

          1. TeamSteam
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Then youre as blind as he is.

  25. Alan The Llama
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Bord Gais changing its name. Interesting.

    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 14 Years
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      lol

  26. Arch
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    if liverpool score the next goal rooney will get a red card

    1. Woeisme
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Is that a new rule?

  27. Arse Craic
    • 16 Years
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    76pts pre baps with Rooney and Mata
    + 3 more players to play 😎

    1. rickardinho
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      rank 2,000,000? 😆

    2. Woeisme
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Delighted for you

      1. Caesar, Hot Mustache
        • 11 Years
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        haha 😆 everytime I see this, I can't help myself. top notch sarcasm

  28. rickardinho
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I've figured it out. The linesman's ML rival has RVP(c) 😀

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A Liverpool defender you mean

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      ?

      And he loves to lose?

      1. rickardinho
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        he didn't want RVP to get an assist so ignored the flick on...

  29. Caesar, Hot Mustache
    • 11 Years
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    look how we're all worried bout it being a Persie assist. 😆

    1. rickardinho
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      nah, i'm just worried about Rooney getting more than 5 points. the silver lining with others scoring is that rooney's baps get diluted/deleted

      1. FPLEL
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Still on 3 even after yellow 😯

      2. Caesar, Hot Mustache
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        honestly. it would really hurt my GW. I'd rather Wilson or Falcao get whatever we've got left in this game. silly game, this is.

    2. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Wrong decisions suck, doesn't matter it's Persie for me

  30. Turtlepower
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Spurs has good fixtures coming up. Worth it to get Ben Davies(thinking of Duff to Davies)? Has he displaced Rose or was Rose injured?