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25 October 2015 1392 comments
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The Tyne-Wear derby kicks off proceedings on Sunday, as Sunderland look to pacify a Newcastle side that rediscovered their mojo with a 6-2 win over Norwich City last Gameweek. The Black Cats are without a win this campaign but haven’t lost a derby match since August 2011, winning the last five by an aggregate of 10-1.

Sunderland have posed little goal threat over the past four Gameweeks, drawing three blanks and ranking bottom for shots inside the box (18). Moreover, no team has mustered fewer shots on target (25) throughout the course of the campaign. They’ve fared no better on the defensive end, placing second for goals conceded (19) and shots inside the box conceded (89), rendering them a Fantasy wasteland through the opening nine Gameweeks.

Although the Magpies put the Canaries to the sword at St James’ Park, they still rank in the bottom five for attempts (43) over the last four Gameweeks, which serves to moderate the enthusiasm fostered by that crushing victory. Steve McClaren’s men have surrendered just three fewer shots inside the box (86) than Sunderland and conceded the same number of goals (19), ensuring that a 0-0 stalemate is an unlikely scenario.

  1. GreenWindmill
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Silly from Coloccini to even make it a question but bad refereeing.

    1. fickle
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      good call imo, that barge was ridiculous

      1. Norb
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        imo pen but no red, yellow is fine

        1. fickle
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          yeah thats about right

        2. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          That is not how it works. The rule is a red.

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Wasn't a goal scoring chance in my view - Elliot was going to get the ball regardless.

            1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
              • 15 Years
              10 years, 1 month ago

              Ah, ok... If you view it that way.

      2. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Arguably a penalty but not a red card, Fletcher wasn't getting to the ball.

        1. Norb
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          yh this

        2. sminkypinky
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          So much this. Collo at fault for CS lost, ref at fault for Janmaat unlikely attacking points.

      3. HammersFan
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Dont you think Fletcher made a meal of it though. Hes a big lad and went down far to easily.

    2. Pap Le Cissier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Indeed, beat in mind though some fans would declare that shoulder to shoulder.

      The red was ridiculous though

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Yup, that genuinely shocked me.

  2. Chenku╰☆╮
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Big Sam will park the busy and himself in front of the goal now.. BORING!!

  3. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How many own Johnson?

    1. Alittude
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      just the courts

  4. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Took until the 25th minute to realise the screen was still on 'pause' after a toilet trip in the 2nd minute.
    Been watching it at x12 to catch up, I would recommend it in this games case.

    1. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      haha 🙂

  5. charlie1X
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    The penalty + Red decision really not in the spirit of the game. Penalty at best marginal

  6. Geordienufc1
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I AM ABSOLUTELY LIVID.

  7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Harsh decision I thought

    A yellow was probably right

    1. alastair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      If the ref judged it to be a foul it had to be a red

      1. Pap Le Cissier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        No it didnt

    2. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      If it's a foul, it's a red.

      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Not really. The keeper was there and could've save it.

    3. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      rules are rules

  8. KOLASINA(C)
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    It's a fecking disgrace.

  9. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Was it a red? Looked like elliot would have got it therefore not a clear goalscoring opportunity.

    Probably a penalty though.

    1. Pap Le Cissier
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      This is the best reasoning I've seen on here Chris

    2. HammersFan
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Fletcher is a big lad though,he went down far to easily of my liking

  10. HVT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Lol at collicini owners.

    1. Andre W
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      People actually have Collocini?

  11. Pariße
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    It was a penalty, but never a red...Fletcher couldn't get to the ball before Elliott.

    1. alastair
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      So why did Coloccini barge Fletcher ?

      1. Pariße
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        for YOLO's sake and stupidity

    2. Meinhoff
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      If it is a penalty it is a red card, last man. But it wasn't a penalty

  12. jam sandwich
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    so, who is going to be taken off?

    probably Tiote

  13. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Newcastle:

    68% possession
    12 shots, 5 on target
    6 corners
    4 fouls

    Sunderland:

    32% possession
    2 shots, NONE on target
    0 corners
    8 fouls

    1 Penalty, converted.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Coloccini is a prat.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        He's a massive liability, don't understand the Toon love for him.

        1. Pap Le Cissier
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          You're a couple of seasons behind. There isn't much for him these days

      2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This is true though, he's crap too.

    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      BFS is a genius.

    3. The Chosen One...
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      1-0 all that matters

    4. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      1-0 Sunderland win would be funny.

    5. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Can't believe Elliot won't get a CS... Rotten luck!

    6. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      You and your stats...

      Games aren't won on statistics though Doos. Toon are the better footballing side with better quality players, we all knew that. Jeremain Lens is the only player Sunderland have that's above decent.

  14. davies
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Colback YC - unavailable for their game vs Stoke next week, fwiw.

  15. Van Klinkert Delarosa
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Just what the game needed.

    More please.

    1. RÏɠBY
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      hope they all come out after HT with handbags fully loaded 😉

  16. 1966 was a great year for E…
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    He shoots
    He scores
    His girlfriend's only four
    Adam Johnson
    Adam Johnson

  17. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    The BS is unreal. Props to that one guy that called a 1-0 Sunderland with a Johnson penalty yesterday though.

  18. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Janmaat please score.

    1. Lyonnais
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      This

    2. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      This!

    3. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      We will see a few more reds in this game?

    4. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      This

  19. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Sunderland are pretty lucky in these fixtures aren't they

  20. charlie1X
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Collocini's intent was to protect his keeper. No way would Fletcher get to that ball first

  21. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Newcastle just can't beat Sunderland can they?

  22. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Meanwhile....Levante 0 - 4 Real Sociedad, who was telling me yesterday that Moyes might be sacked?

    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Beating Levante isn't exactly much of a feat tbh

      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        true 😛

      2. Costa in Wengerland
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        But will give them some Confidence

    2. Costa in Wengerland
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Wow Goor for Moyes , he deserves it

    3. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Seemingly heading to villa

      1. A-VB
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Seriously ?

      2. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        why would he leave Spain?

  23. thedalmeny
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I'm a Newcastle Supporter.

    Definitely a penalty - Coloccini was silly to do that when the keeper was going to reach it in time. Not a red though in my opinion.

    Sometimes i wonder why i bother watching Newcastle, fan since i was 5 and they just always manage to find a way to disappoint.

    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      "Sometimes i wonder why i bother watching Newcastle, fan since i was 5 and they just always manage to find a way to disappoint." Sounds like an Epitaph

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      If it was a pen it was red

      1. The Nuttmxn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Nowhere near clear goalscoring opportunity.

        1. Royal5
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          This. Pen and yellow imo

    3. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I used to say that about City. Just hope they make some Arab friends 😉

  24. tisza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    sunderland are that poor there's still a chance for Newcastle to get something out of this game if they keep their heads.

    1. Sailboats
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not with 10 men. Big Sam will park the bus now

  25. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Lol at anyone thinking it wasn't a pen or red card

    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Explain the red card decision. It was obviously wrong.

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Lol

    2. arthadox
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      That was yellow at most, not a red, ref was so wrong.

  26. bahaa.k
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Whos newcastles pen taker?
    And who do u think is gna get subbed due to collos red?

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Ayoze would be my guess

      1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Tiote imo

    2. The Raging Bull
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hope it's Colback so Janmaat takes over the free kicks.

  27. Chenku╰☆╮
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Panti Looks like a great GK option again with the save points raking up.. And big SAM loves parking the bus..

    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Well, you can't get him in during half time.

  28. Fanta sea
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Atleast with the red card it'll be a more even game

  29. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Sunderland ___ Start season badly --Newcastle match looming -- Sack manager -- win Derby -- Somehow get enoungh points to survive -- repeat again.