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21 December 2015 4813 comments
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The Scoreboard presents the Fantasy Premier League information you need from the day’s matches all on one screen, including the current top five BPS (Bonus Point System) standings from each match (potential Bonus Point earners are in bold). Actual Bonus Points will be shown when added – all points are provisional until then.

Gameweek 1

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Rider on the Storm
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    does any body cares about goalkeepers?

    1. RubeRx
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      theres about 3 or 4 you should be worried bout

      1. Rider on the Storm
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        my only gk is myhill and i am worried about very much

    2. Diva
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I haven't needed to look since I installed Butland and Hennessey as my keepers.

      1. Rider on the Storm
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        they rotate well?
        my problem is i have already wollsheid

        1. Diva
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Dunno. I just play Butland most weeks and have Hennessey as back up, or I bring him in for the odd game where it looks like he's the better choice.

  2. Judas
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    bottommed

    My team is now in freefall after 4 red arrows in a row. Which is the best way to make ground this GW (have 2 FT)?:

    A: Ayew ---> Ramsey/Walcott
    B: Vardy (if injured) ---> Giroud
    C: Other transfers?

    Defence is fine. Front lines:

    Deulofeu, KDB, Ozil, Ayew, Mahrez
    Vardy, Kane, Lukaku

    1. Trae44
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      A

    2. the cromulent one
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I intend to pull the trigger on A.
      Also still thinking about Kane to Aguero. We'll see about that one. I might wait until press conferences.

    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Would you guys prefer Dele Alli or any City mid on Boxing Day?

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Proballi

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers Ayew 🙂

    2. Diva
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Have you seen my latest blog post Balders?

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I have, luckily I have ample cash to make either anybody my 5th mid

        1. Diva
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Yeah, I may have to reconsider the concept of a fifth midfielder...

            • 12 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            By terms of price tag, Mahrez could be my 5th mid soon 😮

            1. Diva
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Mahrez has been my "fifth midfielder" since Gameweek 7!

                • 12 Years
                10 years, 2 months ago

                pfft he's waaaay more expensive than Bolasie blog dog

                1. Diva
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 2 months ago

                  Not at the price I bought him. 🙂

                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 2 months ago

                    really my Mahrez SV is still higher having got on in week 3

    3. the cromulent one
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      City mid.

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        any preference on which one?

        1. the cromulent one
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          I have KdB, so I have not really thought about it. If I was bringing a midfielder in, it might be Silva.

            • 12 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Cheers Crom 🙂

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      orrrr Junior Stanislas?

    4. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      KDB. Didn't look that good today, but usually scores well at home. And they are playing Sunderland.

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Yep that fixture is what I'm looking at, cheers CD.

  3. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Mahrez, Vardy, Ighalo, Lukaku and Ozil

    54% of top 1K own all
    20.7% own all in FPL when dead teams are removed

    FFF figures.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Throw Butland in to the mixer

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        21.8 and 6.8

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I own 2, that explains the string of reds

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I own four and I've had two reds in the last three.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          81.2 own 4 minus Ighalo

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Then 81.2 probably got a red arrow this week unless then captained Mahrez.

            1. Diva
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              *they

            2. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              I got the 81.2 figure wrong.
              You can say 27.2 don't own Ighalo but own the other 4.

      2. Rusty Nail
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        lol ive four and getting reds think the trick is to have all 5

        1. Diva
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Hence my move tonight. 😀

  4. Fishy
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    After going throug

    Henesey ddg
    Ake toby belerin moreno wolscheid
    Mahrez ozil kdb wijnaldum barkley
    Vardy lukaku kane

    2fts
    2mil itb

    1. Marcin the Pole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Wijnaldum to Walcott/Ramsey
      Moreno to Dawson

  5. ver_sparda
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    4 straight red arrows.

    A) Willian,Ramsey,Dann
    B) Alli,Ramsey,Ivanovic
    C) Alli,Pedro,Kolarov

    Any help appreciated!
    Walcott or Ramsey? Lot of points to catch up to

  6. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Guys Save FT or any changes needed?

    Courtois
    Bellerin Toby Dann
    Ozil Mahrez mane Willian
    Kane vardy lukaku

    McCarthy wijndalum Morgan skrtel

  7. the cromulent one
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Even after Aguero's rather anonymous display, I'm still thinking of bringing him in for Sunderland. City are a different animal at home. Not having Aguero might be a huge risk. Kane against Norwich does not seem as worthwhile.

    1. Alittude
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      im very tempted to do te same move even for -4.

    2. Marcin the Pole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I would consider it if it wasn't going to cost me points. Looking at how Aguero played tonight I wouldn't back him to score 4 more points than Kane next weekend. KDB is enough coverage for me.

      1. the cromulent one
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        It would be for free in my case.
        I can't quite tell if I'm being too hasty. An extra free transfer and Kane isn't terrible, either...

  8. Judas
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Giroud stats from last 2 games-

    2 shots
    2 shots on target
    2 goals

    Not sure if this is good or bad? In terms of whether to bring him in or not

    1. Diva
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Not great for long term sustainability.

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        But across the season his figures don't point as heavily in that direction.

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Diva, what's your team link?

          I can't find it on your site.

  9. Pavsboot
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Bring in Spurs or Chelsea defense. Might be jumping the gun a bit with Chelsea but desperately looking for something a little different.

    1. Diva
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Spurs won't give you difference, but they may give you more points.

  10. Rusty Nail
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Need some injuries to the template to mix this season up a bit its becoming quite stale or even better some january transfers to a different league

    1. Diva
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      We just need someone other than the template to score some and for the template to ease off these crazy point scoring runs.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Kolarov, KDB and Coutinho are a start on the template weaknesses.

    2. Pavsboot
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Even some of the premiums going on a scoring run would benefit us. The problem with this season seems to be that because the in-form players are so cheap we can have all of them and hence the template is so strong. If it was Hazard, Sanchez, Aguero etc you couldn't have them all and it'd be a bit more interesting.

  11. Fishy
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Some would say mane stats are better than walcott fpl wise.
    Dont know why but considering mane atm

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Mane is a headache.

      1. Fishy
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        I know but..

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          S'ton are terrible atm. Walcott is much better atm FPL wise.

          1. Fishy
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Ok. Convinced i think..

  12. faver
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Should I?
    Deulofeu > Ramsey
    Coutinho > Yaya
    Bench Vardy.
    GW 18.

    1. fancy111
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Yaya played full 90 so I foresee a rest over the festive fixtures

      1. faver
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Well, who should play their center mid then?

        1. fancy111
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Not sure but they have the depth to place someone in that role. I could be wrong but when te likes of KDB and Silva have been rested in recent weeks IMO Yaya is next.

          Out of the options put forward I'd bench Vardy. Duelo has NEW next

  13. fancy111
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone contemplating Mane after Arsenal? Has been disappointing points wise but juicy fixtures mixed with stats could explode.

    1. Arctic monkeys
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      He could explode once and then go A Wall for weeks. I wouldn't like to own him

      1. fancy111
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        That's why I'm contemplating it... Get the explosion with the upcoming fixtures and then ship him (After a hopeful price rise...)

    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    The week Mahrez, Vardy, Ighalo, Lukaku and Ozil all blank is the week I make my move...

    1. Arctic monkeys
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      hoping it's next week, at least for Ighalo and Lukaku

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        and every week thereafter

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I made mine a few weeks ago when Bolasie and KDB did well. Did cover the template properly after killed me 🙁

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Didn't*

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        🙁 You sold Mahrez didn't you?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          I didn't have Mahrez then. Got rid on WC and got Barkley over Mahrez 3 weeks ago. Cost 30 points and a transfer in the last 3 weeks.

            • 12 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            ouch 🙁

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              My fault. Live and learn. Impossible to play without Mahrez atm.

            • 12 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            at least you've righted the mistake

  14. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    This GW i couldnt of played it any better Captain (Mahrez) yet teams around me in ML had armbands on Lukaku//Wijn/Ramsey etc outscored me and this is all down to my back line!

    Not had a CS in weeks

    Butland(Man U) Henne(A Bou)
    Evans(A Swans) Bellerin(A Saints) Rose(H Nor) gotta to be a least one CS here right?

    Benching (Souare, Moreno)

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      If Rose plays that is...

      1. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        just a knock right?

          • 12 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          illness

          1. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            A cold then, he will fine, thanks

    1. the cromulent one
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I'm in the same boat. Defenders have not been very reliable.

      Your setup looks perfect. But that doesn't mean much this season!

    2. HammersFan
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Butland got 11 last week and 7 before that, cant see ow you haven't ad a cleanie for weeks...

      Im thinking about ditching Moreno as pool seem pretty poor right now

    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    OH MY GOD. I have the exact money for Wanyama & Bolasie -> YYT & Walcott, giving me a front 8 of:

    Ramsey, Walcott, YYT, Barkley, Mahrez
    Aguero, Giroud, Lukaku

    Take my money fpl, we're going back to 2013!

    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I don't want the Mahrez of 2013

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        bench fodder mid 😉

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          In 2013 Leicester were bottom of the league. I want someone with more potential

        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Also this won't be happening for a hit.

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          HIt away my friend. Just be ready for GW 21 with a quality squad and 2 FT's ITB is all I ask.

  15. Heskey Time
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Who to replace Moreno with next week? Currently have:
    De gea, Hennessy
    Moreno, Toby, bellerin, wollshied, Simpson
    Funds not an issue
    Thinking ivanovic, nyom, or Dawson

    1. Fishy
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Ivan

  16. Fishy
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Rivals have ramsey
    My mid kdb ozil mahrez wijnaldum barkley
    Do i
    1. Save transfer and thus avoid benching headach by benching wijnaldum
    2. Do wijnaldum to who?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Rivals ahead or behind?

      1. Fishy
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Ahead

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          If you think Ramsey will be the top 4 mids for the next few weeks then get him. If you think you can find better options, leave him out.

          1. Fishy
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Ok last thing
            Bolasie or walcott

            1. Jigger & Pony
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Wally

            2. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Easy one.

            3. Odikostar
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              theo

  17. Jigger & Pony
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    I know many will say Ransey, but I think Walcott might be a great option to partner with Ozil. Sanchez unlikely to be back until Jan 10 now. Thoughts?

    1. faver
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Currently im considering bringing him in, instead of Ramsey. Can play wide, and as a striker. I can see him playing for 70+ minutes every game. For this moment even looks differential. Also Arsenal have nice fixtures incoming.

      1. Jigger & Pony
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah sou, BOU, NEW coming up...

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Walcott needs Sanchez or someone else with pace to act as a foil. He looks a bit lost otherwise without gaps to run into.

  18. NB23
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Unsure what to do this week lads. Team currently is:

    Butland, Hennessey
    Moreno, Wolly, Evans, Smalling, Toby
    Coutinho, Mahrez, Ozil, KDB, Alli
    Lukaku, Vardy, Kane

    2FT and 0.2ITB.

    Coutinho and Moreno are frustrating me greatly at the moment. Are they worth punting?

    1. fancy111
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      They'll frustrate you even more when they score well next week

  19. Jay Jay Okocha
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Was saving up extra cash and transfers for Kun and Alexis but now I'm at a loss. Any ideas?

    Myhill, Hennessey
    Bellerin, Toby, Moreno, Souare, Smith
    KDB, Ozil, Mahrez, Mane, Fletcher
    Kane, Lukaku, Vardy

    2 FT, 5.0 ITB

    I'm considering Mane -> Bolasie/Ramsey, Fletcher -> Alli, and Moreno -> Wollscheid

    1. Jay Jay Okocha
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Ha, nevermind Bolasie. Ramsey or Walcott to replace Mane? Pretty set on Fletcher to Alli

  20. djapebronx
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    DDG Hennesey
    Moreno Alde Nyom Evans Monreal
    KDB Ozil Coutinho Mahrez Barkley
    Kane Lukaku Vardy

    2FT 0.5 ITB

    I'm definetly plan to get Ramsey in for Barkley for those two home games. Should I get him now do the double transfer DDG Barkley for Butland Ramsey. Or get Ekirsen or Yaya for this gameweek and then get Ramsey for those two home games.

    A) get Ramsey now
    B) Yaya this week
    C) Eriksen this week
    D) Something totaly different

    Thanks in advance guys

    1. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Surely keep Barkley for the Newcastle game after his display last weekend.

      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        And Yaya was awful today, not sure why you would want him. I would consider ditching Coutinho.

        1. djapebronx
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          I liked the way Yaya played... More then any other city player, aside from kdb...
          Coutinho out is another otpion. still doesnt solve my barkley issue...

          1. Royal5
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            He really was horrible in that game. But if you go by fpl points, ofcourse he scored a goal.

      2. Pierce34
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Was Barkley impressive, or were they lucky assists?

        1. djapebronx
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          this

        2. Royal5
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          Didn't watch the game, but recall reading he had a shot rebounded off the keeper for the first and a lovely back heel for the second.

      3. djapebronx
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Think so? I'm looking for some differentials, too template I think... Didn't like his performance anyway. Especialy away he seems to be playing further back? Am I wrong? Fancy Eriksen vs NOR, Yaya vs SUN and Ramsey @ sot a lot more tbh. And the fixtures become a bit harder for them in the next period.

  21. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    The 7 players over 60% ownership in the top 10K are all in 29% of those teams.

    Score this week was : 6,15,11,9,13,8,6 = 68 without a captain and 4 others.

    1. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Lukaku, Mahrez, Ozil, Barkley, Ighalo, Vardy, Alderweireld?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        yep

      2. Namtab Nomolos
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Last 4 weeks they are 23/28 for scoring at least 6 points each.

        Avg points per week in last 4: Toby 5.5, Ozil 8.25, Barkley 6.5, Mahrez 12.75, Vardy 5.75, Ighalo 10.5, Lukaku 7..25
        226 total points over 4 weeks = 56.5pts/gw or just over 8 points each

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Here comes that word again, brutal.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 16 Years
        10 years, 2 months ago

        Can't even beat 6 players with no captain 🙁

        1. Diva
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 2 months ago

          I had five of that seven, captained one of them, and scored just one more point than that 68 with no hit. 🙁

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 16 Years
            10 years, 2 months ago

            Things have to change soon.

            1. Diva
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 2 months ago

              Yes, but I'm struggling to see where the change will come from. I'm getting bored and making stupid moves to entertain myself.

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 16 Years
                10 years, 2 months ago

                At your rank, I'd play it safe for a little longer.

  22. Pierce34
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    What to do with this team? Looks ok on paper but I've been getting reds in my mini leagues these past few weeks.

    Butland, McCarthy
    Bellerin, Kolarov, Toby, VVD, Dawson
    Ozil, Mahrez, KDB, Ayew, Alli
    Lukaku, Kane, Vardy

    1 FT, 1.6 ITB

    Original plan was to downgrade Kolarov to Simpson to make room for Aguero/Sanchez, but after tonight that doesn't look like a top priority.

  23. Ando
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    To Aguero, or not to Aguero? Apparently he looked off the pace today but is up against a woeful Sunderland next GW. Thoughts?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      Leicester is more important so minutes are an issue perhaps.

    2. thattreblefeeling
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      He's got a week to get himself up to scratch and as you said it is Sunderland, I myself will be taking a chance on him

  24. Arctic monkeys
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Oscar worth consideration. He was praised in MOTD

    1. Arctic monkeys
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      That first sentence is a question

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 2 months ago

      I'd stay away. Scored a pen.

  25. thes7s
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    My ML is quite insane can't get to shake any of them of my back, 2nd place changes every week and I can't build a strategy.

  26. ver_sparda
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Ramsey or Theo ?
    Lot of catching up to do if it helps

  27. Jape
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 2 months ago

    Morning all.

    Butland / Gomes
    Ward / Smalling / Dawson / Moreno / Rose
    Mahrez / KDB / Wij / Ramsey / Ozil
    Vardy / Kane / Lukaku

    Worth taking a hit to sort anything?
    Maybe get rid of Wij?