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18 June 2016 2557 comments
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Saturday’s events end with a collision between two sides scrapping for a Euro 16 foothold.

Austria arrived in France with a laudable record in qualifying and were considered a darkhorse. But Marcel Koller’s men were found wanting in their opening fixture, frustrated and eventually overwhelmed by the Hungarians.

That 2-0 defeat means that tonight’s meeting with Portugal is now more vital than ever.

Fernando Santos’ side are also in dire need of the victory.

They were unable to overcome an Icelandic barrier to earn victory in their opening group encounter and now found themselves on the back foot. Defeat to Austria would swing the group wide open, leading to a dramatic final round of matches later this week.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Ronaldo has had 20 shots on goal this tournament !
    More than twice the highest player

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Who's 2nd?

      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Giroud with 9

      2. Backup Dancer
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Gareth

    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      "at" goal

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        ^^^.

    3. ronty
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      he takes every FK and that bloats his figure..

      A manager should have the balls to take a player off irrespective of his stature if he has been as useless as Cristiano has been

      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Or at least take him off the free kicks, ffs.

  2. Liastro ⭐️
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    2FTs on this lot? Or would you wildcard instead?

    Rui Patricio - Kozazik
    Juanfran - Rami - Dier - Hector - Strinic
    Ozil - Perisic - Alaba - Mak - Stanciu
    Ronaldo - Müller - Giroud

    Thanks.

    1. The Iron Tulip
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I have a very similar team to you and also have 2 FTs. I was swaying towards just doing Giroud and Muller > Bale and Milik and saving WC

      1. glennbet
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Why Giroud out? Also Mulley is playing Northern Ireland, who are one of the weakest teams in the competition. Reckon Germany could get a few goals.

  3. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Wildcard getting activated tonight

    Think I'll be ditching Alaba/ Konplyanka among others

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Same. I'm thinking of bringing Alaba in 😆

      1. Sanguinista
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Any word on why he was subbed off after 60 mins considering he is arguably their best player (maybe not on the night)?

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          No idea, maybe just having an off game?

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Yes. He was absolutely crap.

          1. Stats Don\'t Lie
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            This

        3. Bøwstring The Carp
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          No idea, this is why I was thinking of ditching him

          Huge game for Austria tonight and he was subbed at 60 mins, which can be interpreted as bad news

          If it's an injury, even worse news

          1. Sanguinista
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            ^This. I have him on my WC draft atm, but worried about his gametime

  4. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I will accept a tirade of wrath if this has been endlessly requested already, but...

    Does anyone have a post/article/submission for WCing? I'm not sure how price rises are working, and am seeing some people instead valuing wildcarding this round due to squad uncertainty in the final game...

    *Be nice*...

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      No guarantee anyone will get a price change.

      1. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        An interesting factor. Thanks

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Tbh, NOBODY has a clue. I have shelved mine, Sir.

      1. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I thought the collective perspicacity of you boffins would have it all sussed by now. Good to know we're all learning. My original plan was for contingency in later stages so think I'll stick.

        Just that lousy Junu who needs kicking from my cohort. Any suggestions for this last round perchance?

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Rakitic.

    3. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      No idea mate.

      Which is why I'll focus my WC on getting the most points, nothing else.

      1. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Probably the most shrewd move. This comp isn't the life and death of FPL so I won't lose too much sleep. Trust the first 2 legs have been generous to you?

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Yep 🙂

  5. dirtmcgirt
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Patricio Sommer
    Giacherrini Juanfran Rami Strinic Rodgriguez
    Hamsik Iniesta Kroos Payet Perisic
    Giroud Milik Muller

    probably worth a wildcard right? most of my defence are playing each other and a couple midfielders might be rested. possibly giroud too.

    (sorry for the repost it got lost on the bottom of the last page)

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I would'nt wildcard. Save for quarter final round. Giroud to Sturridge/Stancu or Lukaku then you get unlimited transfers for next round.

  6. bobinjo
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How is this for sunday WC team lads?

    Tatarusanu(alb),Fabianski(ukr)

    Sapunaru(alb),Jędrzejczyk(ukr),Höwedes(nir),Hector(nir),Guerreiro(hun)

    De Bruyne(swe),Payet(sui),Stanciu(alb),Alaba(isl),Mak(eng)

    Bale(rus),Ronaldo(hun),Milik(ukr)

    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Lose alaba

  7. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Disgusting scenes from the Irish fans

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Q0u9Vc6EY

    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Russia and England who?

    2. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      God-damn hippies!

  8. Wolverine
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Ukraine are out 😉

  9. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How many teams go thru the next round?

    1. Wolverine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      16

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      1st and 2nd place team and I think 4 of the 3rd place teams .

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah

  10. ryacoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    A couple of questions for fellow WCers:

    Kroos vs Ozil
    Seems like Kroos is taking more set-pieces and has slightly better stats but does Ozil's more advanced position and reputation as an assist king make him worth the extra cash?

    Grosicki
    The forgotten man from our initial drafts, before he picked up the injury. Is he worth taking for Poland's game against a Ukraine side that are already out of the competition?

    Italy and Spain rotation
    The general consensus seems to be that these two teams are the most likely to rotate. Which players are you looking at including?

    Alaba
    Subbed off around the 65 minute mark today after a relatively poor display, despite playing more advanced than usual. Anyone else having doubts about including him? The commentator on BBC speculated that he may have picked up an injury - are there any reports on that?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Kroos
      Possibly
      Italy will probably rotate (considering Ogbonna), Spain less so. Not getting any Spain anyway.
      Not sure.

    2. Play Pal
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Ozil
      Yes
      Keepers are safest picks
      No Alaba for me

    3. faver
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Kross,
      He have yellow card but recently he said to the media that is not the problem and he's ready to play. If Ukraine will look 50% less worse than against NIR, he may even score a brace
      Italy can bring Darmian or Ogbonna. Spain game will be important, i think Ramos may be rotated, yellow card.
      No sign of any reports at the moment but I think he may somehow deliver, not by goals or assissts but with really good game at his position (CM)

  11. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    😮 20 attempts. 4 on target.

    😆

    1. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      CR7?

  12. juggos
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    A little note for others. If you swap captaincy from an 8 pt player to a 7 pt player you actually only lose on pt. You still get 8 pts from the first and 14 from the 2nd for a total of 22 pts. The other way around would be a total of 23 pts.

    Please stop saying it's a 2 pt difference

    1. juggos
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Lose one pt*

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Who says that? Someone mathematically challenged.

  13. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    79 points, 51 from defence, 26 form mids but only 2 from forwards !!!

    1. faver
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      3 from forwards, forget to swap Pelle!

  14. Jazz!
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone considering the troll next week?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Actually, just looked at the stats. No worries.

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      fellaini?

    3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Jafooli ? Scotland did not qualify for the Euro's

    4. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Trollkaku?

  15. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Can you save your FT in McDonalds UEFA Euro game ?

    1. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not after 3rd round.

  16. Judas
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I want to bring in Bale, Morata or Lukaku this week...

    But have Giroud, Muller and Pelle in my team. Who to drop? Will anyone be rested?

    1. Play Pal
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Muller -> Bale is popular having seen the Russian defense vs Slovakia

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Giroud and Pelle could easily be.

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      😮 😆

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A forward I bought for 12m missed a penalty and had a goal ruled out for offside after doing jack for 80 mins ...

    3. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Btw, you got Mr De Bruyne too early, now's the time to get him 😎

    4. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Wow, I for one am shocked 😯

  17. Olly.
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this lot (WC) ?

    Tatarusanu Kozacik

    Pazdan Jedrzeczyk Howedes Hector Guerreiro

    Coman Alaba Grosicki Kroos KDB

    Bale Ronaldo Vardy

    :: Don't really like Kozacik, hoping to rely on Tatarusanu vs Albania tbh

  18. Bourbon, Pot Still or Islay…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I'd really want muller and lewdanowski in the last game..... I smell a minimum 4 goals
    Portugal and both Poland Germany defence doubled up too

  19. Judas
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    When are people playing their Wildcards?

    Rotation could be rife in Spain, Italy and France so is it worth it?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah, planning on having 0 Spain, 1 Italy and 1 France so shouldn't be too bad.

  20. GreennRed
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    What % chance of Vardy starting do ye think? Sturridge looking a better bet.

    1. Olly.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I think both Studge + Vardy will start

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I dunno but I'm punting on Sturridge. 🙂

      1. GreennRed
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Was cons

      2. GreennRed
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Considering Muller to Bale and not sure yet about other FT. Doing abysmal so might just take a hit or two on top of 2 FT.

        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Torn between sturridge and bale myself.
          Hits don't make much sense in this format

  21. glennbet
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Playing the Sun Fantasy Game.

    Team is

    David De Gea
    Sagna Hector Djourou Schar
    Hazard Pogba Payet
    Griezman Ronaldo Giroud

    Planning to sub out Schar, Pogba and Griezman for Ozil, Kroos and Howedes .

    What do you guys think?

    Main reasoning is that Germany will be desperate to win vs Northern Ireland and I reckon Northern Ireland could get thumped, whereas France likely to be resting players potentially as already qualified and I want to get Switzerland defenders out of my team asap !

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      No. Griezemann could come good. And Germany - NI will be close

      1. glennbet
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        What makes you say that?

        Odds on NI to win are 12/1, Germany 1/3

  22. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    How does Kane to Milic sound ?

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Very nice

  23. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    What are the chances that at least one of these will play?

    Barzagli, giaccherini, alba

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      100%

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Barzagli is close to being nailed, Giaccherini not sure and Spain haven't secured top spot so I reckon Alba will play.

        1. Stats Don\'t Lie
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Ok. Just wasn't sure whether Azpi mightn't get a start.

  24. FPL Mentor
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Total 136pts
    Match week 2 - 81pts

    Patricio 6
    Guerreiro 6 Howedes 6 Juanfran 6 Rami 9
    Hamsik 10 Payet 8 Siggy 7 Gotze 3
    Nolito(C) 18 Muller 2

    (Sommer, Giroud, Konoplyanka, Dier)

    Dont think i will wildcard.

    Who do you think i should transfer out/in?

    I know muller n gotze have flopped horribly but i think Low has a strange love for Gotze and is eager for him to get match fitness back after missing the end of the season. Altho he looks poor, i think he can come good.

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      You should be telling us at that score 😉

      1. FPL Mentor
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        haha thanks Jazz. But match day 3 is throwing me off a little with rotation risk etc. Think i need to re-analyse the fixtures.

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Kono > grosicki

      1. FPL Mentor
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Glad u said that actually. Big fan of grosicki.

        Currently have an eye on:
        Candreva
        Grosicki
        KDB
        Iniesta
        Perisic/Rakitic

        Manduzic and Ronnie as strikers..

        1. Stats Don\'t Lie
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Don't like Mandzukic myself.

          My ideal attack for next week would probably be:

          Milik, bale/vardy, andone/stancu

    3. Kun Tozser
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Giroud , Kono out I would say

      1. FPL Mentor
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        cheers pal

  25. Jbuckl1878
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    When's best to wildcard considering you get unlimited transfers in last 16?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Now or QF

    2. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      QF

  26. rocrocodile
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Really uncertain about WC or not. Would love to have it before the quarter finals, but then again, this lot might get rotated. What do you think?

    Sommer / Subasic
    Rami / Dier / Giaccherini / Howedes / Strinic
    KDB / Ôzil / Payet / Perisic / Duda
    Müller / Giroud / Pellé

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Don't WC, just use your 1/2fts

  27. Mo Salah No Mane
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Could I get opinions on when to wildcard?
    Tempted to now ,but wouldn't before the quarterfinals be a better and safer bet to ensure that to have well over 11 players?
    If one or 2 of the favourites get knocked then you might be forced to take a few unnecessary hits before the quarterfinals.
    Someone please help

    1. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Both are fine. I prefer try to get ahead now when I can, after we will all have the same team.

      1. Mo Salah No Mane
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Good point... was dead set on wildcarding but in 2 minds now

    2. Rowse
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I would agree with that, but others don't. I think it's a 50/50 split and really depends how strong your team is going into GW3.

      1. Mo Salah No Mane
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        My team is not that good because most of my players go head to head. Maybe use my ft and then take 2 hits because I feel the wc will be more valuable before the qfs. I'm going to follow all wc posts closely for some clarity.

  28. Rowse
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I have 2 FT and don't want to WC. Without knowing the rest of my team, does Muller to Bale and Walker to Glik sound like a good move?

    1. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Why Walker out?

      1. BENOIT
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        THis. Plumb fixture

      2. Rowse
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        My other £5m defenders I want to keep incase of potential price increases as they are currently smashing it, plus England will never keep a clean sheet. With Bale and Muller being the same value, I can only do a £5m for a £5m swap, and Walker is the fall guy.

  29. Olly.
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Grosicki is a good pick right? WCing

    1. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'm not picking him currently (WCing too). I think he is a good pick but I have already Milik

    2. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Decent. I'd be finding the cash for perisic if I were you

      1. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Brain fart. Thinking of brozovic